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The biggest problem is that for this little money nobody is going to find it worth their time to really do what it takes to track this guy down and make him pay. Its probably just not worth it ya know.
It would be great if the miners here get what they deserved. But I don't think it is the coins that he stole from the miners is the issue. I think the feeling being scammed off is more hurt that the actual coins that the miners didn't get. And all civilise people definitely do not want this to happen again to everybody else.

Have you ever been pick-pocketed? You were definitely angry because of you feel like a fool, not because of the money you have lost as you most probably do not have thousands of USD or EUR in your wallet that the pick-pocket took. Even if you reported that to the police, you definitely just get a letter of confirmation for you to renew your driving license and all cards inside your wallet. You definitely didn't get your wallet back, unless people found it and sent it back to you. In some countries, because of the built up angers, people just beat the pick-pocket when they caught him  as people get frustrated on his action. Sometime they beat him to death. I hope this would not happen to Nexious that he would end up cripple just because he stole a few coins.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
So what should we do to punish Nexious?

He definitely acted against any civilise laws, antisocial or basically he committed a crime here. If bashing his balls would not be an option as that is against the laws in any countries, what should we do to punish him and stop him? He will definitely do this again if we don't do anything. But I am confused myself what option do we have.

Well first off lets say he really is the guy in New Zealand that was mentioned a few pages back. 

What could be done legally someone that lives in New Zealand could look him up.  Not threaten him in anyway and ask him very politely for the coins

back.

In fact I am sitting at my keyboard in New Jersey USA and I will ask Nexious very politely to please send me 35 btc use this address :

https://blockchain.info/address/1CqbvmuJcLFDFzFewKmBVAaghXEtByzY9Y

I will pay out the people if he sends it.

Realistically   the chances are if he reads this he will laugh it off.

But maybe he will be the rare person that realizes what his best move is in life.

At Nexious looking forward to seeing the coins in the wallet.
sr. member
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So what should we do to punish Nexious?

He definitely acted against any civilise laws, antisocial or basically he committed a crime here. If bashing his balls would not be an option as that is against the laws in any countries, what should we do to punish him and stop him? He will definitely do this again if we don't do anything. But I am confused myself what option do we have.

While I did not loose anything in this con I've been in this position before. There is almost nothing you guys can do as a group. This is why scammers with no heart do this again and again, because they almost always get away with it. Unless someone goes rouge and does something stupid then its over, he won, your all F'ed.

I'm not suggesting that anybody risk it and do something stupid, but if more people did then there would be a lot fewer con men trying this crap out there. Just saying. I've never been up for getting vigilante revenge myself, nor have I had the time, but I wouldn't be shocked if someone else did.

The biggest problem is that for this little money nobody is going to find it worth their time to really do what it takes to track this guy down and make him pay. Its probably just not worth it ya know.
full member
Activity: 179
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So what should we do to punish Nexious?

He definitely acted against any civilise laws, antisocial or basically he committed a crime here. If bashing his balls would not be an option as that is against the laws in any countries, what should we do to punish him and stop him? He will definitely do this again if we don't do anything. But I am confused myself what option do we have.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
+1000
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We need to support each other and stick to the most reputable persons here. All is about trust that is how i do things...
legendary
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Merit: 1024
Mine at Jonny's Pool
I don't think it's the 0% fee that becomes the red light, since there are a number of pools from which you can choose that have no fees.  However, the "coming out of the woodwork" newbies who have supposedly been mining for 3 years and just now decided they want to be a pool operator so created an account here... now those are the ones you need to investigate.  And yes, Con called him out, and even offered him what I thought was a very generous deal to prove himself.
What about 5 BTC block reward? That was enough for me to know the truth. 1 BTC promised in the beginning was almost enough. My comment about it can be found in this thread. I do think that 0% fee is enough not only for the newbies though. I have pointed out here and there that such thing like free lunch never exists. Someone pays the bill at the end...
I agree at the end of the day, somebody's gotta pay the piper.  The offered block finder bonus from this pool was just another part of the sham this jackhole had going.  There was no accountability (i.e. he didn't publish the address of the 5 coins waiting to be claimed).  He didn't use any escrow services.  Nothing to give people the impression that he was trustworthy.

I admit, I was the first person to congratulate the OP when he started the pool.  To be fair, he was active on the forums from that point forward.  The pool he ran provided a relatively stable mining environment and he kept up his end of the bargain by offering fee-free accounts.  Unfortunately, it was all just a long-running con.  I'm glad I exposed it by finding that block.

In the end, it was just another scam like PBMining, cloudminr.io, etc.  Too bad, because it makes it that much harder for people to trust anything new.
legendary
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I don't think it's the 0% fee that becomes the red light, since there are a number of pools from which you can choose that have no fees.  However, the "coming out of the woodwork" newbies who have supposedly been mining for 3 years and just now decided they want to be a pool operator so created an account here... now those are the ones you need to investigate.  And yes, Con called him out, and even offered him what I thought was a very generous deal to prove himself.
What about 5 BTC block reward? That was enough for me to know the truth. 1 BTC promised in the beginning was almost enough. My comment about it can be found in this thread. I do think that 0% fee is enough not only for the newbies though. I have pointed out here and there that such thing like free lunch never exists. Someone pays the bill at the end...
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1024
Mine at Jonny's Pool
I don't think it's the 0% fee that becomes the red light, since there are a number of pools from which you can choose that have no fees.  However, the "coming out of the woodwork" newbies who have supposedly been mining for 3 years and just now decided they want to be a pool operator so created an account here... now those are the ones you need to investigate.  And yes, Con called him out, and even offered him what I thought was a very generous deal to prove himself.
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Does anyone find this new thread a possible ripoff.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13026481


asking for you to pm him to join a private pool. see his sig

Message me to join FIZTONIC 0% fee private mining!

He opened his account on the 20th of nov. 2015
Precisely why I didn't feel any inclination to give him the benefit of the doubt. Looks like the same guy trying to repeat the same offence.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betaanonymous0-fee-fiztonic-bitcoin-mining-server-1256779
Just on spot Con as always.
I am wandering what the block reward finder this time will be. 10 BTC maybe or even more. And magic 0 % fee shall be used as a red light for all folks
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
Does anyone find this new thread a possible ripoff.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13026481


asking for you to pm him to join a private pool. see his sig

Message me to join FIZTONIC 0% fee private mining!

He opened his account on the 20th of nov. 2015
Precisely why I didn't feel any inclination to give him the benefit of the doubt. Looks like the same guy trying to repeat the same offence.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betaanonymous0-fee-fiztonic-bitcoin-mining-server-1256779
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
Does anyone find this new thread a possible ripoff.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13026481


asking for you to pm him to join a private pool. see his sig

Message me to join FIZTONIC 0% fee private mining!

He opened his account on the 20th of nov. 2015
member
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Again I get the conversation back and fourth. But this is a Nexious pool thread. Why are we talking about other pools and their Drama, Shouldn't the focus now be more towards finding the OP and making his life a living hell for scamming all the miners that put hash here. I mean I lost little compared to others and posted some pretty good information I feel that leads us to the direction of the owner but no one seem to even care about it any more. This is could be  why these types of things keep happening. We let these people get away with it and go oh well and move on to the next one.

There has to be a way to insure if some one takes from you, They should have to pay. Ether by the law or by straight up street justice. I am in no way condoning violence here but something needs to be done or put in place that doesn't let this type of thing happen.

I know nothing about the coding side of bitcoin I wish I did but can something be written in that states if some one protests a transaction the transaction is put on hold until ether the protest is found worthy or unworthy or Instead of releasing the block after 100 confirms there is another 20 confirms after a new transaction is made before those coins land in another account allowing time to for some one to protest wrongful miss doings.

All I am trying to say is it seems this type of crap happens all the time ether through hyips or investment scams, or people trying to sell items they don't have and pool OP's  that dont pay out.

Granted most older users don't fall prey to these types of things because ether it has happened to them before and the learned. Oh fire put hand on fire OUCH! Fire equals pain  don't touch fire again. Or just by reading what others have written from their bad experiences. If it happens so often why cant we create steps towards fixing it?

Sorry to drag this thread back on topic but just wondered ...

Is there any news?
Do we have a positive ID for nexious?

If I had spent a lot on rentals then I would probably be more pissed off than I am (luckily kept mining at another pool also) but I just don't like the idea of him getting away from this unscathed.



legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
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Eligius easily handles peak loads of over 250,000 miner connections regularly.
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Maybe you better stop supporting botnets.
250,000 miners ... 10PHs ... avg 40GHs per miner connected ... no miner's with 1TH?

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As for empty blocks, any pool or miner *not* using the 1-transaction initial work speedup on a network block change is just stupidly wasting miner resources, IMO.  Pool immediately gets miners on the right block, and as soon as GBT returns with an updated transaction list gets miners working on full blocks.
It's only immediate if it's SPV ...

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Admittedly, ckpool, ...
You're trolling -ck there, not me Smiley

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Transaction fees are included with Eligius, so... not sure what that comment was about.  Just more trolling, as usual.  And you do realize that *all* pools will pay half as much after a reward halving, right?  I thought that was well understood?  I mean, if your pool is still paying based on pre-halving amounts I'll be pointing some hash power your way until you go broke...
Funny how you make up such a stupid response ... you seriously don't understand payout mechanisms?
Well I guess your comment where you said there are no real PPS pools shows that probably is the case.

PPLNS pools may be paying higher dependent upon transaction fees and pool fees (and luck).
Your pool and any real PPS pool is limited to PPS.
legendary
Activity: 4256
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'The right to privacy matters'
No apologies needed just trying to keep us on topic. Getting this dirty OP and the money that is owed to the miners here. Granted I am more likely to win the lotto than seeing this guy brought to justice bad damn this type of crap pisses me off to no end!

What do you think we should do instead of bashing his balls of?

If a guy promised you to give 100 EUR in exchange for you to do something but he doesn't keep his promise after you have done that, what would you do? I don't think you can sue him or ask the police to do something without a legal contract between you and him for that agreement. This happens everywhere in the world to the illegal workers. I think what has happened on this pool is the same. There was no legal contract with the OP and we all just volunteerly gave our hashrates for him to get the reward. So it is actually up to him what to do with the reward. Unfortunately, he decided to keep it for himself.

legally he is subject to the law of his country at the least.

These pools are implied contracts by what he wrote on this thread.  but that would be USA law.

I have zero idea of New Zealand  laws.
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
JB - you have the patience of a saint  Grin Wink

Perhaps he is! What do you think made him found the first ever block on this pool?
LOL.  Believe me... if I'm ever up for canonization, the world is in a REALLY bad place Tongue.  I enjoy far too many things that aren't exactly qualifiers (two of which I mentioned above).
I can only offer an anime harem to Mr Bravo - just as real and useful as a saint 'hood' though, but nicer to look at Smiley

Now for the down side Smiley
Firstly, indeed luck is fickle.
The reason for my post was that "Pool Luck" is not "just luck" - it includes things that a pool can manage and reduce

Over the month of October we had the worst luck the pool has had since it started.
12 blocks found, 6 of them over 200% Difficulty, 3 around 100% and the other 3 good luck ... no orphans.
Yep a shocker ... for 12 blocks (Avg 197.85% Diff)
Though for any pool 10x the size as kano.is, that's only 3 days of similar bad luck Tongue

Over the past year we've had ... 1 orphan.
The pool has been running for 1 year and 2 months, in those first 2 months we had ... 1 orphan.
363 blocks ... 14 months ... 2 orphans.

Now, looking at luck over time actually isn't comparing oranges with oranges.
Pool luck is specifically based on the amount of shares submitted and the amount of blocks found.
If you compare luck over time of a pool with 10 times the hash rate of another pool, you are misunderstanding how to compare the statistics.

So if one pool has bad luck for a year with 4 times the hash rate as a another pool, that's just as statistically likely as that smaller pool having the same bad luck for 4 years.
Yeah a year worth or bad luck is very unexpected ... and if the expectation of that happening is less than 0.1% ... like at that pool ... that's like saying less than one chance in 1000 years of it happening, and for a pool 1/4 of the size, there'd be less than one chance in 4000 years of that happening ...

But back to luck ...
Orphans and stale blocks (be they shown by the pool or hidden by the pool) are the element of so called 'pool luck' that can have a level of control.
End of story, ignore the deception of pisskid.
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No apologies needed just trying to keep us on topic. Getting this dirty OP and the money that is owed to the miners here. Granted I am more likely to win the lotto than seeing this guy brought to justice bad damn this type of crap pisses me off to no end!

What do you think we should do instead of bashing his balls of?

If a guy promised you to give 100 EUR in exchange for you to do something but he doesn't keep his promise after you have done that, what would you do? I don't think you can sue him or ask the police to do something without a legal contract between you and him for that agreement. This happens everywhere in the world to the illegal workers. I think what has happened on this pool is the same. There was no legal contract with the OP and we all just volunteerly gave our hashrates for him to get the reward. So it is actually up to him what to do with the reward. Unfortunately, he decided to keep it for himself.
hero member
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Interesting.  So because I occasionally speak with someone you two have had drama with in the past, I'm automatically a target of non-stop BS.  So, basically school-girl drama.  Got it.  Thanks for the explanation.  Edit:  Was I giving too much credit to you and kano thinking that I may have been being judged alone on my own merits?  Undecided
Don't mix me up with Kano.

You were the one that responded to something directed at kano. *shrugs*

Whatever, I don't care anymore.  At this point I doubt the crap will stop no matter what I do.  It's old, and I need to just be the better man and stop feeding into the immature drama I guess.

Again I get the conversation back and fourth. But this is a Nexious pool thread.

Apologies for the OT conversation.  kano tends to have that effect a lot of times.  At least my original post was on the topic of the thread.  His reply had nothing to do with the topic and was just his normal trolling and bashing of myself and my pool. Undecided

No apologies needed just trying to keep us on topic. Getting this dirty OP and the money that is owed to the miners here. Granted I am more likely to win the lotto than seeing this guy brought to justice bad damn this type of crap pisses me off to no end!
legendary
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Interesting.  So because I occasionally speak with someone you two have had drama with in the past, I'm automatically a target of non-stop BS.  So, basically school-girl drama.  Got it.  Thanks for the explanation.  Edit:  Was I giving too much credit to you and kano thinking that I may have been being judged alone on my own merits?  Undecided
Don't mix me up with Kano.

You were the one that responded to something directed at kano. *shrugs*

Whatever, I don't care anymore.  At this point I doubt the crap will stop no matter what I do.  It's old, and I need to just be the better man and stop feeding into the immature drama I guess.

Again I get the conversation back and fourth. But this is a Nexious pool thread.

Apologies for the OT conversation.  kano tends to have that effect a lot of times.  At least my original post was on the topic of the thread.  His reply had nothing to do with the topic and was just his normal trolling and bashing of myself and my pool. Undecided
hero member
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Again I get the conversation back and fourth. But this is a Nexious pool thread. Why are we talking about other pools and their Drama, Shouldn't the focus now be more towards finding the OP and making his life a living hell for scamming all the miners that put hash here. I mean I lost little compared to others and posted some pretty good information I feel that leads us to the direction of the owner but no one seem to even care about it any more. This is could be  why these types of things keep happening. We let these people get away with it and go oh well and move on to the next one.

There has to be a way to insure if some one takes from you, They should have to pay. Ether by the law or by straight up street justice. I am in no way condoning violence here but something needs to be done or put in place that doesn't let this type of thing happen.

I know nothing about the coding side of bitcoin I wish I did but can something be written in that states if some one protests a transaction the transaction is put on hold until ether the protest is found worthy or unworthy or Instead of releasing the block after 100 confirms there is another 20 confirms after a new transaction is made before those coins land in another account allowing time to for some one to protest wrongful miss doings.

All I am trying to say is it seems this type of crap happens all the time ether through hyips or investment scams, or people trying to sell items they don't have and pool OP's  that dont pay out.

Granted most older users don't fall prey to these types of things because ether it has happened to them before and the learned. Oh fire put hand on fire OUCH! Fire equals pain  don't touch fire again. Or just by reading what others have written from their bad experiences. If it happens so often why cant we create steps towards fixing it?
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
Interesting.  So because I occasionally speak with someone you two have had drama with in the past, I'm automatically a target of non-stop BS.  So, basically school-girl drama.  Got it.  Thanks for the explanation.  Edit:  Was I giving too much credit to you and kano thinking that I may have been being judged alone on my own merits?  Undecided
Don't mix me up with Kano.
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