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Topic: Nexus - Pure SHA3 + CPU/GPU + nPoS + 15 Active Innovations + More to Come - page 317. (Read 785531 times)

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Yampi,

A] There will be multiple pools since I am releasing the pools open source
B] The Hashing Channel will break Prime Channel streaks and vice-versa
C] The Decentralized Checkpoints only allow the Main Chain to be built, not overwritten.

All this being said, we don't have to worry about 50% hashrates anymore. Each Feature reinforces the last to secure the Coinshield Network.
Viz.

You didn't answer my question.

Do you still plan on not letting one dev, who asked you here, to develop open source GPU miner for CPU channel, while we all know that other developers already have GPU miner?
legendary
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Creator of Nexus http://nexus.io
Yampi,

A] There will be multiple pools since I am releasing the pools open source
B] The Hashing Channel will break Prime Channel streaks and vice-versa
C] The Decentralized Checkpoints only allow the Main Chain to be built, not overwritten.

All this being said, we don't have to worry about 50% hashrates anymore. Each Feature reinforces the last to secure the Coinshield Network.
Viz.
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I am expecting that a pool will gain more than 50% of network hashrate when it gets launched.
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Nexus pool : http://nexusniropool.cestballot.fr/
Block 20000 diff 6.095448

 Cool
legendary
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and now i know why im not finding blocks anymore  Undecided

any news on the pool/'s?
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those things are nothing but a bunch of p3 cores wonder what my dual tualatins can do at 1.8ghz lol

My "entry level" model has 57 superscalar Pentium cores with a sexy 512 bit vector unit (somewhat similar to AVX2), and 28.5 MB of distributed L2 cache connected by a ring bus to be specific  - and 6 GB of RAM with a nicely high 240 GB/s memory bandwidth

don't you dare compare this to dual tualatins Wink


hey now i like my tualatins they can run crysis also beat the shit out of everyones p4 lol
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have you tried to run some cpu only algo on it ?
(from what I read, you don't need to modify anything to parallelize (?))

Eh no, without making use of this vector unit it's really pointless to run any scientific code on this device - and since this instruction set isn't AVX2 compatible you even have to develop entirely new optimized code and libraries. Intel already provides some useful libraries, but I really wonder if that includes any BIGNUM maths libraries for use in cryptography. Also: this does not support any previous Intel SIMD extensions like MME, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1 SSE4.2 or AVX instructions. So, just taking existing optimized code won't work either. But I'll stop discussing this board here right now, as it is off topic (oops, sorry!)

Christian
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those things are nothing but a bunch of p3 cores wonder what my dual tualatins can do at 1.8ghz lol

My "entry level" model has 57 superscalar Pentium cores with a sexy 512 bit vector unit (somewhat similar to AVX2), and 28.5 MB of distributed L2 cache connected by a ring bus to be specific  - and 6 GB of RAM with a nicely high 240 GB/s memory bandwidth

don't you dare compare this to dual tualatins Wink

have you tried to run some cpu only algo on it ?
(from what I read, you don't need to modify anything to parallelize (?))
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those things are nothing but a bunch of p3 cores wonder what my dual tualatins can do at 1.8ghz lol

My "entry level" model has 57 superscalar Pentium cores with a sexy 512 bit vector unit (somewhat similar to AVX2), and 28.5 MB of distributed L2 cache connected by a ring bus to be specific  - and 6 GB of RAM with a nicely high 240 GB/s memory bandwidth

don't you dare compare this to dual tualatins Wink
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For now the CPU (E5-2670 v2) is more efficient in performance per watt than the GPU (GTX 780 Ti) based on cbuchner1's implementation. However, the GTX 750 Ti would be more efficient at sieving.

Also, the CPU mining performance can be increased by a minimum of 2x over version 1.2, but without any trading value for this coin, what difference would it really make?  




makes  A 2X mining difference also trading value is not relevant atm speculation is
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For now the CPU (E5-2670 v2) is more efficient in performance per watt than the GPU

€1406,42  

the price of that thing!! (cheapest price I found in a price search engine)

My Xeon Phi card just around 1200€... I should actually start using that thing before I have to sell it for scraps Wink

and I think four GTX 780Ti can also be had for the above price nowadays.

he CPU mining performance can be increased by a minimum of 2x over version 1.2, but without any trading value for this coin, what difference would it really make?

for science? for sports? for feelgood? Wink


those things are nothing but a bunch of p3 cores wonder what my dual tualatins can do at 1.8ghz lol
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For now the CPU (E5-2670 v2) is more efficient in performance per watt than the GPU

€1406,42  

the price of that thing!! (cheapest price I found in a price search engine)

My Xeon Phi card just around 1200€... I should actually start using that thing before I have to sell it for scraps Wink

and I think four GTX 780Ti can also be had for the above price nowadays.

he CPU mining performance can be increased by a minimum of 2x over version 1.2, but without any trading value for this coin, what difference would it really make?

for science? for sports? for feelgood? Wink
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For now the CPU (E5-2670 v2) is more efficient in performance per watt than the GPU (GTX 780 Ti) based on cbuchner1's implementation. However, the GTX 750 Ti would be more efficient at sieving.

Also, the CPU mining performance can be increased by a minimum of 2x over version 1.2, but without any trading value for this coin, what difference would it really make?   

2 x Intel Xeon E5-2670 v2
Run time ~ 153.25 hours:

 
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 19632
[METERS] 125 Block(s) ACC=122 REJ=2| Height = 19632 | Diff = 6.098033 | 32:47:49
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 19633
[METERS] 125 Block(s) ACC=122 REJ=2| Height = 19633 | Diff = 6.101024 | 32:48:00

  Prime Clusters Found: Four=305335 | Five=10734 | Six=228 | Seven=4 | Eight=0



******* BLOCK FOUND *******


Preparing for Block Submission...

Submitting Block...
[MASTER] Prime Cluster of Difficulty 6.425208 Found on Thread 14

53036723cff6846ec1eb1665c76972cdbf5f494fa0e552ca6d60c8bc3c1f34b324d3935076656cd 192729b4ac165b4a896c4661788128bd96ba72fdcda3ca6cf32416bfb88db08bbe234df8c0e977d cfe4a8793b02a105177233c32fac7ce9930ef6f7ee43809611c6ccb64b209719241ebadddc76474 e9ebf305aa92700dbca

[MASTER] Block Accepted By Coinshield Network.
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 19634
[METERS] 126 Block(s) ACC=123 REJ=2| Height = 19634 | Diff = 6.104014 | 32:48:13








[METERS] 126 Block(s) ACC=123 REJ=2| Height = 19639 | Diff = 6.065141 | 33:10:34
[METERS] 126 Block(s) ACC=123 REJ=2| Height = 19639 | Diff = 6.065141 | 33:10:45

  Prime Clusters Found: Four=306085 | Five=10759 | Six=229 | Seven=4 | Eight=0



******* BLOCK FOUND *******


Preparing for Block Submission...

Submitting Block...
[MASTER] Prime Cluster of Difficulty 6.233405 Found on Thread 34

7c3802635316cec75b97877236edbd1e2bf9b51d4ba565d9cb839c915cd2ff58000fc5964ac8347 b3f782ce2d826a5ad8b7a311e6ffc92d31136fd5f96d7809aaef0c67ea760dc6de5f4e2f9359117 6878df32ce74d00aa464b3c3b9345451fd61877917c70c25d0ea9850d9095d508fa70645e0a6043 65d7da895e99fe47ab2

[MASTER] Block Accepted By Coinshield Network.
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 19640
[METERS] 127 Block(s) ACC=124 REJ=2| Height = 19640 | Diff = 6.041192 | 33:10:56






[METERS] 127 Block(s) ACC=124 REJ=2| Height = 19641 | Diff = 6.044188 | 33:15:02
[METERS] 127 Block(s) ACC=124 REJ=2| Height = 19641 | Diff = 6.044188 | 33:15:13

  Prime Clusters Found: Four=306256 | Five=10766 | Six=230 | Seven=4 | Eight=0



******* BLOCK FOUND *******


Preparing for Block Submission...

Submitting Block...
[MASTER] Prime Cluster of Difficulty 6.204459 Found on Thread 22

d855ea9fc5931c1dec20f266ef655868d39bb58aa7622fe0fb68b3a07e57042b39aed244356d805 fa0fefee7500304e200c648b00758e49bcb01524a739fe39499acd0371419c6365c16839c2e6368 4cdf03faae5a3f8a8636ba4e93e5eac5f22a2ba2adafe97dbd232b5c0e087d94782e9de999f65bd a01cd72247fc32bae2a

[MASTER] Block Accepted By Coinshield Network.
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 19642
[METERS] 128 Block(s) ACC=125 REJ=2| Height = 19642 | Diff = 6.020223 | 33:15:24
[METERS] 128 Block(s) ACC=125 REJ=2| Height = 19642 | Diff = 6.020223 | 33:15:36
[METERS] 128 Block(s) ACC=125 REJ=2| Height = 19642 | Diff = 6.020223 | 33:15:47






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Hi Christian,
Whilst I applaud you for once again doing some amazing work to get this working, it's actually going to threaten one of the foundations of this coin - the CPU only mining channel.  Now that you have made this breakthrough, would you be willing to help the developers modify the algorithm to make it less viable to have the GPU's assist mining on the CPU channel?   At the same time, you could use the work you have done so far to assist in building the GPU miner for the GPU channel?

This high end mining rig uses 6-7 times the power of a Single core i7 in a power efficient mainboard. So overall the efficiency gain isn't really that great. It heats my entire living room. Some of the optimizations we found are also applicable to the CPU miner.

The computations of the base remainder needs to be taken out of the for (j...) loop and an appropriate offset can be added during the sieve generation instead. The fermat check for Position p1 is redundantly done in the Supercomputing miner. Minimize overall run time by balancing sieve efficieny vs. the time spent in the Fermat test (adjust number of primes going into the sieve accordingly). During sieve Generation, segment the sieve into parts that fit into the CPUs L1 cache (for the smallest primes in in particular). Go fix this first before complaining about our GPU superiority :-)

When I port this algorithm to my Xeon Phi card, it might even run circles around my GPUs... Who knows.

You'd have to abandon the concept of primality searching to make the CPU channel ineligible for GPU assist. There are things in Computer science where GPUs are really bad. Do the research before advertising a CPU only mining opportunity. :-)

We're not going to release this miner anytime soon and we're not taking this to GPU farms or AWS. The overall impact on this coin will be minimal. We might take our skills to other prime based coins (Riecoin etc) because these actually have a bit of trade value.
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what are you guys finding? This ain't bad for 57 hours of run time... a bit more than 1 block per hour Wink    This is a rig with 3 GTX 780Ti's doing the sieving.  The Fermat test still runs on the CPU (bignum maths on the GPU is hard...)

Code:
[METERS] 59 Block(s) ACC=59 REJ=0| Height = 18891 | Diff = 6.117701 | 57:31:36
  Prime Clusters Found: Four=111988 | Five=4346 | Six=115 | Seven=1 | Eight=0

Hi Christian,
Whilst I applaud you for once again doing some amazing work to get this working, it's actually going to threaten one of the foundations of this coin - the CPU only mining channel.  Now that you have made this breakthrough, would you be willing to help the developers modify the algorithm to make it less viable to have the GPU's assist mining on the CPU channel?   At the same time, you could use the work you have done so far to assist in building the GPU miner for the GPU channel?
thats normal, all "cpu coin" will one day be GPU coin and then Asic coin
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what are you guys finding? This ain't bad for 57 hours of run time... a bit more than 1 block per hour Wink    This is a rig with 3 GTX 780Ti's doing the sieving.  The Fermat test still runs on the CPU (bignum maths on the GPU is hard...)

Code:
[METERS] 59 Block(s) ACC=59 REJ=0| Height = 18891 | Diff = 6.117701 | 57:31:36
  Prime Clusters Found: Four=111988 | Five=4346 | Six=115 | Seven=1 | Eight=0

Hi Christian,
Whilst I applaud you for once again doing some amazing work to get this working, it's actually going to threaten one of the foundations of this coin - the CPU only mining channel.  Now that you have made this breakthrough, would you be willing to help the developers modify the algorithm to make it less viable to have the GPU's assist mining on the CPU channel?   At the same time, you could use the work you have done so far to assist in building the GPU miner for the GPU channel?
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My mule don't like people laughing
Is now the block 18666? diff is under 6 its confused me

I have this

"blocks" : 19237,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 6.10357810,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false

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Nexus pool : http://nexusniropool.cestballot.fr/
Code:
/CoinShield/cpu# make -f makefile.unix
g++ -c -pthread -static-libgcc -static-libstdc++ -Wall -Wextra -Wno-sign-compare -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-unused-parameter -Wformat -Wformat-security -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -DBOOST_THREAD_USE_LIB -I/home/CoinShield/cpu -I/home/CoinShield/cpu/build -I/home/CoinShield/cpu/hash -O2 -MMD -o build/prime.o prime.cpp
In file included from util.h:5:0,
from types.h:4,
from core.h:5,
from prime.cpp:9:
hash/templates.h: In function ‘uint256 SK256(const std::vector&)’:
hash/templates.h:40:23: warning: unused variable ‘pblank’ [-Wunused-variable]
In file included from core.h:5:0,
from prime.cpp:9:
types.h: At global scope:
types.h:26:19: error: ISO C++ forbids initialization of member ‘fStopped’ [-fpermissive]

all lib looks good, but probably bad version for one. any idear to solve this on V1.2 mining code?

Best regards

I think the initialization of the member variable has to be moved into a new default constructor for Timer.
A similar problem is found in the miner.cpp

also it seems your boost version is not suitable for this project.

Christian


I solved this bug.

Best regards
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block hash is too long to coinswap's database field. Ian from coinswap helped to fix. Coinswap has great support service.

Rgrds,

Thanks, you did a great job.

I don't know why I sent 100 csd to coin-swap 15 minutes ago, but I haven't seen them in coin-swap wallet.

Rgrds

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Thanks, you did a great job.

I don't know why I sent 100 csd to coin-swap 15 minutes ago, but I haven't seen them in coin-swap wallet.

Rgrds

CoinShield Market: https://coin-swap.net/market/CSD/BTC   Smiley
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