skunk,
The unfortunate circumstances are:
A] Bitcoin has been falling, the clone coins are sucking the life from it; this is becoming more pressing as the days pass on.
B] SK1024 requires a completely different kernel than any other miner currently, all public variations of Skein or Keccak I have seen are using sphlib kernels for 256 bit. I don't know what the turn-around time would be for 1024bit miner optimizers.
C] The amount of money I can offer in bounty would be negligible to the profits received from a private miner, so what incentive would any of these developers have to even supply the public with the fully optimized miner?
You raise good points skunk, I'm just looking at the realities now. I would be happy to hear more if you see any points where my logic is flawed.
Thank You,
Viz.
Topic: Nexus - Pure SHA3 + CPU/GPU + nPoS + 15 Active Innovations + More to Come - page 366. (Read 785531 times)
September 18, 2014, 11:31:14 AM
September 18, 2014, 07:33:24 AM
viz, be prepared to hear a lot of people screaming about unfair launch if letting out nvidia card owners...
if the launch can't be delayed anymore, i would suggest to at least hold back gpu mining, however i'm not sure if it's possible code wise.
you can also offer a bounty for optimizing the miners code: wolf0, djm34 and cbuchner1 are the coders i'm aware of with enough skills for accomplishing this task...
excluding optimized private miners is the key for a fair launch imho (read the cryptonite thread and you'll find out why).
if the launch can't be delayed anymore, i would suggest to at least hold back gpu mining, however i'm not sure if it's possible code wise.
you can also offer a bounty for optimizing the miners code: wolf0, djm34 and cbuchner1 are the coders i'm aware of with enough skills for accomplishing this task...
excluding optimized private miners is the key for a fair launch imho (read the cryptonite thread and you'll find out why).
September 18, 2014, 12:13:12 AM
LTCMAXMYR,
The concentration currently is getting the proper pieces in place before launch; yes you are correct: there are vast speed improvements that can be done on both miners, the snag: I have other tasks on my TODO list more pressing than optimizing miners.
I would hope that people of the community would offer their code if improvements were made, but as you suggest this is an unrealistic expectation. There is only so much one can do within a given time-frame, and the time-frame has been set.
Viz.
The concentration currently is getting the proper pieces in place before launch; yes you are correct: there are vast speed improvements that can be done on both miners, the snag: I have other tasks on my TODO list more pressing than optimizing miners.
I would hope that people of the community would offer their code if improvements were made, but as you suggest this is an unrealistic expectation. There is only so much one can do within a given time-frame, and the time-frame has been set.
Viz.
September 17, 2014, 10:57:03 PM
i see the cpuminer code,the prime POW alg have sick,it may be 10~20x speed improvement ,,,
and the GPU algo is SK1024(BEGIN(nVersion), END(nNonce))
if so,GPU will have 2x improvement
you should check the algo,and delay somedays,
or there will be unfair lunch,,someone will use private optimized miner
and the GPU algo is SK1024(BEGIN(nVersion), END(nNonce))
if so,GPU will have 2x improvement
you should check the algo,and delay somedays,
or there will be unfair lunch,,someone will use private optimized miner
September 17, 2014, 08:08:49 PM
???windows 7 x86,wallet Error!
MinGW Runtime Assertion
Assertion failed!
file:src\core\block.cpp,line 1074
Expression:block.CheckBlock()
MinGW Runtime Assertion
Assertion failed!
file:src\core\block.cpp,line 1074
Expression:block.CheckBlock()
Be sure to update your binaries. This was an issue with yesterday's upload, and is now resolved. I just personally tested and executed the download on Windows 7 without receiving that error.
Viz.
September 17, 2014, 07:45:19 PM
???windows 7 x86,wallet Error!
MinGW Runtime Assertion
Assertion failed!
file:src\core\block.cpp,line 1074
Expression:block.CheckBlock()
MinGW Runtime Assertion
Assertion failed!
file:src\core\block.cpp,line 1074
Expression:block.CheckBlock()
September 17, 2014, 07:42:14 PM
Skunk,
Thank You for the kind words
As far as I know with the GPU Miner, Bitslapper is in final debugging of the AMD version and will be ready with that for launch. He stated earlier he setup the project for easy CUDA integration, so I am suspecting the NVIDIA will come post-launch.
Also, I'm working out a segmentation fault with the CPU miner currently, let me know if you encounter the same issue.
Thank You,
Viz.
edit: added clarifying details
Thank You for the kind words
As far as I know with the GPU Miner, Bitslapper is in final debugging of the AMD version and will be ready with that for launch. He stated earlier he setup the project for easy CUDA integration, so I am suspecting the NVIDIA will come post-launch.
Also, I'm working out a segmentation fault with the CPU miner currently, let me know if you encounter the same issue.
Thank You,
Viz.
edit: added clarifying details
September 17, 2014, 07:37:49 PM
And the long anticipated wait is almost over:-)
September 17, 2014, 07:14:05 PM
thank you viz, the wallet is working fine on the testnet as the miner does:
i see you're putting a lot of effort on this project and i'm getting good vibrations, so i'm looking forward to see this coin at least as useful and valuable as monero 
will the gpu miner be available at launch? for both nvidia and amd cards?
Code:
Initializing Miner 127.0.0.1:4447 Threads = 8 Timeout = 10
Connected to 127.0.0.1:4447...
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 7499
[METERS] 16582.833333 SPS | 23.500000 PPS | Height = 7499
[METERS] 20925.166667 SPS | 27.000000 PPS | Height = 7499
[MASTER] Prime Cluster of Difficulty 2.620089 Found on Thread 6
d7976c52cb19e2642f7956437a3d44b10802e230b08ebeef3b3e180c45a58af9dc8e9cda9674e1498bf0cf3dae58bd1d15fde53117e4e8d0887386e7623bd29e074b398b6d8563e18f078c409c6c67dbe078ad4a183856da42d1ea5298c06737c2147d413789f8e6180668ee713535f47b2f4dacba0569403d5fef74b0c3a955
[MASTER] Block Accepted By Coinshield Network.
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 7500
[METERS] 17919.166667 SPS | 26.666667 PPS | Height = 7500
[METERS] 20769.500000 SPS | 25.833333 PPS | Height = 7500
[METERS] 20565.500000 SPS | 27.333333 PPS | Height = 7500
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 7501
[METERS] 20810.333333 SPS | 29.166667 PPS | Height = 7501
[METERS] 19719.500000 SPS | 28.666667 PPS | Height = 7501
[METERS] 20904.166667 SPS | 30.833333 PPS | Height = 7501
[METERS] 21052.333333 SPS | 30.500000 PPS | Height = 7501
[METERS] 20885.000000 SPS | 33.000000 PPS | Height = 7501
[METERS] 20956.000000 SPS | 28.666667 PPS | Height = 7501
[METERS] 20906.333333 SPS | 32.500000 PPS | Height = 7501
[METERS] 21338.333333 SPS | 26.166667 PPS | Height = 7501
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 7502
[METERS] 19038.833333 SPS | 27.333333 PPS | Height = 7502
[METERS] 20952.333333 SPS | 29.833333 PPS | Height = 7502
[METERS] 20975.333333 SPS | 27.000000 PPS | Height = 7502
will the gpu miner be available at launch? for both nvidia and amd cards?
September 17, 2014, 06:06:39 PM
Graham,
Yes - good observation - they aren't saved in *.png format retaining the transparency. I believe the graphic designer is working on that along with updated graphics for the main site. I'll be sure to post that update in testnet2 [in a few days].
Thank You,
Viz.
Yes - good observation - they aren't saved in *.png format retaining the transparency. I believe the graphic designer is working on that along with updated graphics for the main site. I'll be sure to post that update in testnet2 [in a few days].
Thank You,
Viz.
September 17, 2014, 05:39:16 PM
Thanks for the confirmation =)
Oh, I forgot to mention, the Ubuntu CoinShield tray icon has a white background. You might want to change that to transparent.
Cheers
Graham
September 17, 2014, 04:20:32 PM
Graham and Skunk,
I compiled using boost 1.55 and updated the linking to static
I compiled using boost 1.55 and updated the linking to static
I can confirm that the Qt wallet now executes and syncs on 14.04.
Cheers
Graham
Graham,
Thanks for the confirmation =)
Viz.
September 17, 2014, 03:56:18 PM
Graham and Skunk,
I compiled using boost 1.55 and updated the linking to static
I compiled using boost 1.55 and updated the linking to static
I can confirm that the Qt wallet now executes and syncs on 14.04.
Cheers
Graham
September 17, 2014, 03:20:26 PM
sdersdf3,
If you read through the features, you will come to see that development takes time.
The delays came from my perseverance to build unique and useful features for a coin, and not settle for anything less. Keep in mind it took Satoshi a few years to build Bitcoin, now; I compliment that same work by enhancing and reconstructing the original code base.
It only takes a day to clone a coin, but takes months to build one.
Viz.
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Graham and Skunk,
As previously stated in my update, I said one reason for the Testnet launch is to ensure that everyone who wanted to be involved would have a binary to use. Graham you pointed out to use boost 1.55, and skunk you said the binary wouldn't load. I compiled using boost 1.55 and updated the linking to static, lastly changed the archiving format as there seemed to be issues with the previous zip. From my tests, the Ubuntu binaries look good; but if anyone continues to experience issues, would like it compiled for different version of linux, or any other request, please do not hesitate to let me know.
Ubuntu Wallet
Thank You,
Viz.
If you read through the features, you will come to see that development takes time.
The delays came from my perseverance to build unique and useful features for a coin, and not settle for anything less. Keep in mind it took Satoshi a few years to build Bitcoin, now; I compliment that same work by enhancing and reconstructing the original code base.
It only takes a day to clone a coin, but takes months to build one.
Viz.
------------------------------------
Graham and Skunk,
As previously stated in my update, I said one reason for the Testnet launch is to ensure that everyone who wanted to be involved would have a binary to use. Graham you pointed out to use boost 1.55, and skunk you said the binary wouldn't load. I compiled using boost 1.55 and updated the linking to static, lastly changed the archiving format as there seemed to be issues with the previous zip. From my tests, the Ubuntu binaries look good; but if anyone continues to experience issues, would like it compiled for different version of linux, or any other request, please do not hesitate to let me know.
Ubuntu Wallet
Thank You,
Viz.
September 17, 2014, 05:15:28 AM
OP has been updated. 11 new features in all. Good work Viz. Countdown has been added.
Please Note:This coin will go live on:The Equinox [9/23/2014 12:00 PM CDT]
Countdown: http://[Suspicious link removed]/Zonumm
Please Note:This coin will go live on:The Equinox [9/23/2014 12:00 PM CDT]
Countdown: http://[Suspicious link removed]/Zonumm
haven't followed this closely - has there been a long delay in getting this off the ground? if so, why?
September 16, 2014, 03:13:29 PM
September 16, 2014, 01:46:40 PM
Yes I completely agree, everyday desktop miners are what the CPU channel is designed for anyway; I'll put the Pool higher on my TODO then
Thanks for the Feedback,
Viz.
Thanks for the Feedback,
Viz.
September 16, 2014, 01:40:38 PM
Good to know, I'm working on a Boost 1_55 static build at the moment. To mine with wallet you need to compile external CPU miner from my Github and run command: "make -f makefile.unix" which requires openssl and boost. You could then start it from linux commandline: alias miner='/home/viz/coinshield-cpuminer/coinshield_prime 127.0.0.1 4447' then 'miner' to run and see debug output.
I'll post once I have the updated wallet build. Would you like a cpu miner binary while I'm at it?
As to pools, as mentioned in my post; I will be developing a pool as soon as my TODO gets smaller. This will be how the server side LLP templates will be released, since Coinshield is incorporating so many new features, all existing pool software will not work. Solo mining should work fine for now and early launch until I get to developing the pool.
Thank You,
Viz.
solo mining is not a problem until the net hash rate is low, but a pool is critical imho when it raises for desktop miners like me...
September 16, 2014, 01:32:23 PM
Good to know, I'm working on a Boost 1_55 static build at the moment. To mine with wallet you need to compile external CPU miner from my Github and run command: "make -f makefile.unix" which requires openssl and boost. You could then start it from linux commandline: alias miner='/home/viz/coinshield-cpuminer/coinshield_prime 127.0.0.1 4447' then 'miner' to run and see debug output.
I'll post once I have the updated wallet build. Would you like a cpu miner binary while I'm at it?
As to pools, as mentioned in my post; I will be developing a pool as soon as my TODO gets smaller. This will be how the server side LLP templates will be released, since Coinshield is incorporating so many new features, all existing pool software will not work. Solo mining should work fine for now and early launch until I get to developing the pool.
edit: once finished, the LLP pool will be released fully open source so anyone can start their own pool or modify and improve my codebase.
Thank You,
Viz.
I'll post once I have the updated wallet build. Would you like a cpu miner binary while I'm at it?
As to pools, as mentioned in my post; I will be developing a pool as soon as my TODO gets smaller. This will be how the server side LLP templates will be released, since Coinshield is incorporating so many new features, all existing pool software will not work. Solo mining should work fine for now and early launch until I get to developing the pool.
edit: once finished, the LLP pool will be released fully open source so anyone can start their own pool or modify and improve my codebase.
Thank You,
Viz.
September 16, 2014, 05:30:25 AM
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