Topic: Nintendo's rejection of gay relationships gives fans a lot to be angry about - page 4. (Read 5475 times)

Yea. The bearded lady is going to be the end if days. Much more likely that than Crimea escalation or overpopulation and resource wars.

You know back in the 80s there was already a "bearded lady" that was very popular: Boy George. There were no doubt about his sexuality. Huge hits. I liked boy George. I knew he was gay. Somehow the "gay lobby" was winning in music, fashion, art without attacking or shoving their agenda down people's throat. We can make fun of how people used to dress in TV shows like Miami Vice now but it was cool and again a lot of creative minds behind that look were gay.

Now there is a shift. A much more agressive shift. A much more open agenda punishable by internet soldiers, NFL fines, mozilla boycotts, HGTV cancelation, etc

All of that will backfire.

I thought this was somewhat relevant to this subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjthIKHxE34

Well, why don't we come up with a list of games; online and board games included, which need to be modified in order to appear to be soically correct.

You need not worry about chess because it has both kings and queens and eliminate Monopoly from the list as well because it has that sort of effeminate looking guy with the monocle and top hat.*


*No harm is intended by this post.  The only intent is to show the absurdity of attempting to make any given thing about everyone and all things to all people.

When a company is about to be burned at the stakes from the minority who feel they're entitled to their every desire they usually fold...

Oh my god this is a nightmare, I wonder how far we are gonna allow this to go, if you think about it this could be a mental disease that we said, hey is ok your no longer considered to be sick, cause you all faught so hard to make it ok to be a woman then look like a man, then go make some babies while being a man figure.

That is the ultimate goal of the feminist-homosexual lobby. They want a gender-less society. Some of the Western European nations are sliding towards it, such as Sweden and England.

Ok sorry but this means the ends of days must be coming, I mean the lady or the guy who won that european show and she was dressed as a woman with a beard, I mean serious, how the funkkk can you justify yourself as being both parts of the sex?

We are already living in a world where a baby can have 3 biological parents so...

They did the whole gay thing with spartacus was very disgusting, but I accepted it, and thats what has been the problem, while we had to learn to accept it.  But we have to fight and stop accepting it or we will have a world where woman that are men are giving birth in the hospital

There are no differences between a film and a game as both need to follow a script, a storyline. You need to accept the "film universe" or the "game universe" for them to entertain you. There is an interaction in a game with your keyboard and joystick, but to believe there are none while watching a movie is an illusion. If Nintendo did something disgusting, so did all the movies you never liked. You do not control the game universe, you participate in it, the same way you loved how you felt the first time you got what the Matrix universe was, or when your little world in your head  flipped upside down while watching Fight Club, for example. Sure, some games are propaganda as much as some films.

Now It is impossible to read the Nintendo developers mind but it is a stretch to conclude what they did was in purpose to "attack" the gay community. Somebody got offended and had the lobby power behind to make this a fake scandal, pushing Nintendo to apologize for a nothingburger with extra tossed salad and mayo...

This may be because I can't be fucked to read the thread, but I don't get what y'all are arguing about.

Spendulus, it doesn't look to me like pd is saying you should go and see such-and-such a film for some moral purpose, just recommending some of them that you might have overlooked. Of course it doesn't make you a homophobe if you don't watch Brokeback Mountain on account of a lack of titties - protesting outside the cinema and calling for the film to be banned makes you a homophobe, but that doesn't.


No-one is talking about force here, with the exception of market forces which I thought y'all loved? Nintendo has every right to make a game where they restrict relationships to only be between people of the opposite sex, gamers have the right to buy it (or not), activists have the right to complain to Nintendo, journalists have the right to write about it in the press, gamers have the right to buy (or not) other Nintendo games based on this, or any other criteria they like. Where's the problem here?

Personally, I think it's quite a nasty thing for Nintendo to have done. It's quite different for a film to only have straight characters (who are their own people) than for a game (in which your character is supposed to represent you and you choose their actions) to disallow certain fundamental aspects of your character. Again, they have every right to make it that way, but I think it's a dick move. I wouldn't have bought the game either way, but if enough other people think it's a dick move then they will rightly lose revenue.

Also, every film that isn't just mindless entertainment is "propaganda" - most films have a message of some kind, "propaganda" now seems to mean "a message I don't agree with".

You may have just made my point a lot better than I did...

See, your attitude is the problem, not the solution.  You've just said "It might teach you a bit of empathy..."  (without knowing anything about me...)   You're on board with movies and media as a vehicle for propaganda for social viewpoints and causes.

I said flat out I'd go to movies for ENTERTAINMENT, and you are asserting that someone might should go see movie XYZ because it would be some kind of learning experience.  Maybe I want to go see guys shoot a bunch  of bad guys or crash cars or fall out of airplanes and get saved in mid air by hot chics with rocket packs.  

this is not really very complicated....

I doubt there would be much of a concern in Europe over that; there is a difference between a country being "heavy into religion" and actually fanatical enough to want to force others to do things their way. Further, those European countries often have very old populations, that for the most part won't even know, or care, what game we're talking about. And the younger part of the population that would know/care is typically much less religious.

I think you should include the Euro countries that are heavy into religion as well, there is alot of people that would be angry and will not support it.

What ? - you have not seen it but can judge it ? How does that work ?

It might teach you a bit of empathy, watching that film. Its as moving a portrayal of loneliness as I think I've seen - the way that circumstances beyond our control can take us into a lonely and isolated place.
   Or is loneliness a "predicament" that doesn't afflict straight people ?



Anyhow, I don't know how I've come to be an advocate for a cowboy film about a couple of gay blokes  - so I'll leave it there I think.

Dolphins player fined, sent for educational training after tweet about Michael Sam


I wonder if any other front office in the league would have cracked down this swiftly. Miami sweated through an endless PR forest fire last year over bullying and “locker-room culture” with the Richie Incognito and Jonathan Martin mess. They probably decided early vis-a-vis Sam that they weren’t going to tolerate the smallest spark.

And this spark was small. Don Jones’s crime was two tweets, each exactly one word long, after Sam was chosen by St. Louis in the seventh round: “OMG” and “Horrible.” Maybe that was about the pick itself, maybe it was about Sam kissing his boyfriend on TV after he got the call. Either way, after rapidly being fined, barred from team activities until he attends “educational training,” and publicly scolded in separate statements by his coach and GM, Jones issued a formal apology crafted in fluent publicist-ese:

“I want to apologize to Michael Sam for the inappropriate comments that I made last night on social media. I take full responsibility for them and I regret that these tweets took away from his draft moment. I remember last year when I was drafted in the seventh round and all of the emotions and happiness I felt when I received the call that gave me an opportunity to play for an NFL team and I wish him all the best in his NFL career. I sincerely apologize to Mr. Ross, my teammates, coaches, staff and fans for these tweets. I am committed to represent the values of the Miami Dolphins organization and appreciate the opportunity I have been given to do so going forward.”

No doubt the NFL leaned on the Dolphins to hit Jones hard in the interest of sending a zero-tolerance message to the broader league, but like I said up top, I’m sure they didn’t have to lean heavily. People were grumbling on Twitter yesterday that even the slightest criticism of Sam for being gay is now verboten whereas it was A-OK to mock Tim Tebow for his faith, even on the field during the game. Right, but that’s simple economics. Gay-rights activists are organized and willing to use their economic power to punish the NFL if it doesn’t protect one of their own; social conservatives really aren’t beyond statements of disapproval from the Family Research Council etc. Mozilla made the same, perfectly rational judgment in choosing to, ahem, accept Brendan Eich’s “resignation.” Keeping Eich on could have triggered boycotts, caused business deals to collapse, and given the company a lingering black eye in its industry. Firing him wouldn’t. There was, I’m sure, an initial backlash of thousands of social conservatives uninstalling the browser, but after a few weeks the company’s survived the storm and has clear sailing ahead. That wouldn’t have been the case if they’d kept Eich. The NFL understands that.

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/05/12/dolphins-player-fined-sent-for-educational-training-after-tweet-about-michael-sam/comment-page-1/#comments

...Just using it as an example.  Many, many others I am sure you are aware of.

No argument similar has been presented that is convincing to many such that they care to go see Brokeback.  Actually it's the reverse of "if you have not seen it you cannot judge it."

Hey, if you don't want to watch the film, then don't watch it - I really don't care one way or the other. But if you do (and I take it you haven't as yet - so I'm a little bemused how the fuck you can pass an opinion on it either way) I can garauntee you that I for one will not run around the BitcoinTalk forum shouting "Spenders a bender" - regardless of wether that actually be the case or not 



But I had to laugh at this :-


I love that film also - but where in that film is there any portrayal of homosexuality  ? Or would that be where Tony Curtis and Jack Lemon put on dresses to escape the villains ?

Jesus wept