Rijk is the only captain who jumps ship before his passengers and crew, proceeds to sink his own ship while everyone is still onboard and then asks the survivors to come join him on his new ship.
I don't know what world a person like this lives on if he thinks people will trust a new Gulden run by the same Captain who flees ship asking for a new bag of gold and arrogant enough to say you need to make the ship work while he take money from the premine.
Topic: [NLG] The even greater Gulden thread! - page 19. (Read 47213 times)
Let's listen with open mind.
Wtf scam is this, I am down 60% on xfl and I am willing to take a loss but not one fucking buyer over 580000 sat ? Now the founder wants to start another coin. Fucking sort this coin out first.
You purchased during a pump , florin is decentralized, no one put a gun to your head and told you to buy coins. 90% of the investors that purchased before 2022 have made profit.
Tomtides the new coin has nothing to do with Florin. My only concern is if Florin will get the same treatment if a newer coin comes out from the same team.
Wtf scam is this, I am down 60% on xfl and I am willing to take a loss but not one fucking buyer over 580000 sat ? Now the founder wants to start another coin. Fucking sort this coin out first.
By my observation I don't believe Rijk wants the current chain to work. Another community member Jan Peters has a plan in place to help Gulden and he was close to actioning this plan. Not long after his post Rijk causes trouble to stop those plans by coming up with a plan for a new Gulden. The whale that is dumping can also be Rijk because no one else gains from a low price but Rijk gains a lot by starting a new coin with a large premine.
Why was Gulden and Novo started as equal distribution coins but the premine always ends up in total control of Rijk?
You cause the problem and provide the solution, it's a old tactic to fool the masses.
Why was Gulden and Novo started as equal distribution coins but the premine always ends up in total control of Rijk?
You cause the problem and provide the solution, it's a old tactic to fool the masses.
My other legalized scam florin is not working too good . Renaming Gulden and gonna create myself another fat premine with no transparency and when it's finished I will blame the whales. Good plan right?
Read the message on telegram, we have all been scammed. I wasn't 100% sure with Florin but with this I am 100% sure Rijk is a scammer. He sold all his Gulden, he has nothing left to gain personally and needs another premine.
Even kort:
De nieuwe Gulden
Hoeveelheid nader te bepalen, maar belangrijk onderdeel: grote premine. Om de volgende reden: Guldens worden verkocht via Blockhut en de ontvangen euro's worden meteen omgezet naar Bitcoin. Deze Bitcoin wordt decentraal dmv multisig (Stichting oid, nieuwe GAB, enz.) bewaard en is de dekking van Gulden. Waar vroeger de Gulden werd gedekt door goud, wordt de nieuwe Gulden minimaal gedekt door digitaal goud: Bitcoin. Waarbij natuurlijk ook rekening moet worden gehouden met ontwikkelingskosten, maar dat is inmiddels zo inzichtelijk en helder, dat we precies weten wat er nodig is.
Iedere koper moet door een KYC proces, waarmee we meteen aan alle toekomstige wetgeving voldoen en ook meteen een "glassnode" site kunnen opzetten, dus geldstromen zijn inzichtelijk en witwassen/fraude wordt voorkomen. Waarbij privacy natuurlijk wel voorop staat, maar nu al is niet aan deze regels te ontkomen, dus beter de boel voor zijn. En we zitten hier ook niet voor fraude, juist niet.
De focus is betaalmiddel, maar andere functionaliteiten moeten ook mogelijk zijn in de toekomst.
Er moeten snel grote exchanges komen, dat is iets waar ik me wel op wil storten. Een top 20 exchange moet haalbaar zijn als we het samen funden en ik kan ook op zoek naar nieuwe investeerders (er is al interesse).
De oude Gulden
De oude "Gulden" krijgt een andere naam en blijft gewoon doorgaan en wordt ook gewoon doorontwikkeld, het is tenslotte dezelfde code en ook interessant om die chain als "testchain" te gebruiken. Het lijkt me goed om te focussen op de unieke Witness functionaliteit.
Er komt geen swap mogelijkheid oid, want de nieuwe Gulden moet echt waarde krijgen en dat kan niet als we kosteloos gaan swappen.
It's all to do with money. Ask Rijk to add a dev reward to Florin and you will see what takes place with the price and he knows this. He was banking on the Gulden dev reward taking care of all costs for both coins while he and a few friends make money off florin. Richpissman and many others have warned the community. Rijk treated the real whales with disrespect when they confronted him and Gulden is left with bagholders that are labelled whales. A whale is well endowed with both sides of the trade, Gulden has no more whales only loyal bagholders.
The florin and new Gulden users will have the same treatment given time as Rijk won't look into the mirror and accept some responsibility for the failue of Gulden, until he can self reflect all his projects will fail.
Malcolm joining Gulden revealed Rijks true charactor and before Malcolm Rijk was willing to listen as the community was needed, with Malcolm giving Rijk his power the community started to be treated like second class citizens.
Outside of crypto this would be considered fraud. My respect for the syscoin developers has gone up 10 fold,that team worked their butts off with a worse name and higher supply and less handouts. This is pathetic.
One of the tells of a con artist is they get angry when confronted. They will get angry as a way to force their agenda and to shut down a debate.
everyone was warned about Rijk, his only goal is to extract money from you for the least effort possible and use the decentralization excuse when the obvious failures are under the scope. He is blaming you bagholders and will still sell his new premine to the same bagholders and blame you again. Wake up mensen!!
He made me loads of money with XFL though. And not only me. Really great return of investment. Cant wait to make more money out of XFL and a possible 3rd coin
One of the tells of a con artist is they get angry when confronted. They will get angry as a way to force their agenda and to shut down a debate.
everyone was warned about Rijk, his only goal is to extract money from you for the least effort possible and use the decentralization excuse when the obvious failures are under the scope. He is blaming you bagholders and will still sell his new premine to the same bagholders and blame you again. Wake up mensen!!
One of the tells of a con artist is they get angry when confronted. They will get angry as a way to force their agenda and to shut down a debate.
I have seen a con artist on Slack today then. Dox :-)
One of the tells of a con artist is they get angry when confronted. They will get angry as a way to force their agenda and to shut down a debate.
I got out of Gulden in time. 
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My other legalized scam florin is not working too good . Renaming Gulden and gonna create myself another fat premine with no transparency and when it's finished I will blame the whales. Good plan right?
Read the message on telegram, we have all been scammed. I wasn't 100% sure with Florin but with this I am 100% sure Rijk is a scammer. He sold all his Gulden, he has nothing left to gain personally and needs another premine.
Even kort:
De nieuwe Gulden
Hoeveelheid nader te bepalen, maar belangrijk onderdeel: grote premine. Om de volgende reden: Guldens worden verkocht via Blockhut en de ontvangen euro's worden meteen omgezet naar Bitcoin. Deze Bitcoin wordt decentraal dmv multisig (Stichting oid, nieuwe GAB, enz.) bewaard en is de dekking van Gulden. Waar vroeger de Gulden werd gedekt door goud, wordt de nieuwe Gulden minimaal gedekt door digitaal goud: Bitcoin. Waarbij natuurlijk ook rekening moet worden gehouden met ontwikkelingskosten, maar dat is inmiddels zo inzichtelijk en helder, dat we precies weten wat er nodig is.
Iedere koper moet door een KYC proces, waarmee we meteen aan alle toekomstige wetgeving voldoen en ook meteen een "glassnode" site kunnen opzetten, dus geldstromen zijn inzichtelijk en witwassen/fraude wordt voorkomen. Waarbij privacy natuurlijk wel voorop staat, maar nu al is niet aan deze regels te ontkomen, dus beter de boel voor zijn. En we zitten hier ook niet voor fraude, juist niet.
De focus is betaalmiddel, maar andere functionaliteiten moeten ook mogelijk zijn in de toekomst.
Er moeten snel grote exchanges komen, dat is iets waar ik me wel op wil storten. Een top 20 exchange moet haalbaar zijn als we het samen funden en ik kan ook op zoek naar nieuwe investeerders (er is al interesse).
De oude Gulden
De oude "Gulden" krijgt een andere naam en blijft gewoon doorgaan en wordt ook gewoon doorontwikkeld, het is tenslotte dezelfde code en ook interessant om die chain als "testchain" te gebruiken. Het lijkt me goed om te focussen op de unieke Witness functionaliteit.
Er komt geen swap mogelijkheid oid, want de nieuwe Gulden moet echt waarde krijgen en dat kan niet als we kosteloos gaan swappen.
It's all to do with money. Ask Rijk to add a dev reward to Florin and you will see what takes place with the price and he knows this. He was banking on the Gulden dev reward taking care of all costs for both coins while he and a few friends make money off florin. Richpissman and many others have warned the community. Rijk treated the real whales with disrespect when they confronted him and Gulden is left with bagholders that are labelled whales. A whale is well endowed with both sides of the trade, Gulden has no more whales only loyal bagholders.
The florin and new Gulden users will have the same treatment given time as Rijk won't look into the mirror and accept some responsibility for the failue of Gulden, until he can self reflect all his projects will fail.
Malcolm joining Gulden revealed Rijks true charactor and before Malcolm Rijk was willing to listen as the community was needed, with Malcolm giving Rijk his power the community started to be treated like second class citizens.
I am all for the change to Gulden if Rijk can extract more money out of the new Gulden to support the Florin price. The current development reward trough is not good enough to help on this trading war front.
Are people really this gullible ?
My other legalized scam florin is not working too good . Renaming Gulden and gonna create myself another fat premine with no transparency and when it's finished I will blame the whales. Good plan right?
Hi Kraken Remco
What kickbacks you getting Robby? Noways a sane person agrees to this insanity without some personal benefit.
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My other legalized scam florin is not working too good . Renaming Gulden and gonna create myself another fat premine with no transparency and when it's finished I will blame the whales. Good plan right?
Hi Kraken Remco
I don't care but for those of you who invested a lot of your savings in Gulden you should demand from Rijk who the florin premine investors are because it's sounding like a BS story to me. Why would he care about Gulden if these rich investors gave him a lot of money for the premine.
Ask about the bitvavo funds while you at it.
Then what happens to the new Gulden when things don't work out? Another rename, another premine, another swindle?
Is the Gulden rename going to a vote with the #GAB
Ask about the bitvavo funds while you at it.
Then what happens to the new Gulden when things don't work out? Another rename, another premine, another swindle?
Is the Gulden rename going to a vote with the #GAB
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