Topic: no charges for cop who killed man with choke hold - page 3. (Read 4940 times)

lmao: Grand Jury Does not Indict Cop Who Murdered Eric Garner — But the Man Who Filmed It


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/12/04/grand-jury-does-not-indict-cop-who-murdered-eric-garners-but-the-man-who-filmed-it/

The country is too far gone. It will fragment. It is more realistic to vote with your feet than stand disunited and get blown to bits by flying debris.

They are members of the Five Eyes along with USA, Canada, and the UK.

New Zealand didn't extradite Kim Dot Com, but Australia threw Assange under the bus. However, Australia is starting to shift back towards conservative as they were the first country to stop paying Al Gore's carbon tax fraud (global warming is fraud and not true).

I'd prefer the warmer climates and climates ranges of Australia, and there is more terrain to disappear into.

It looks like those two countries may be two of the best of the developed countries for weathering the coming global crisis.

Canada is closer and more realistic for many Americans to escape to. I suggest that to most. And get working on it now. Canada recently advised their citizens to be wary of the USA police state when traveling there. Canada is socialist in the cities, but Canada is still significantly a rural country and afaik the government doesn't mess with you as much as the USA does (e.g. the Bundy Ranch issue and the Feds fucking with for example ranchers near the Mexican border).

Reside far from any population center, no matter where you go. Try to be in a community that grows its own food. Giving up most carbohydrates is good for your health, so then you don't need grains except perhaps to feed your chickens if you can't hunt and fish for your meat.

Perhaps you are failing to realize that anybody in those places can also say "you need to have a picture of the queen on you at all times".  In the end, it is us who are idiots for paying attention to that garbage. 

most laws are ridiculous and are in place just to condition people to being submissive and follow orders or take your money and possessions. check out this site. http://www.dumblaws.com

one of my favorites is this one. "You may be arrested for vagrancy if you do not have at least one dollar bill on your person".

it's "the law" in illinois and some D-bag cop will arrest you for it if he actually knows about this law.

i'm definitely leaving this country. australia and new zealand looks the best to me.

Yup that is the point, you can't know which one of the 4,500 federal crimes (not including 1000s more administrative regulations that are now increasingly punished as crimes by our Kangeroo courts) you committed. The average United States resident commits 3 felonies a day and doesn't even know it. And that includes you, whether you like to admit it to yourself or not.

Any USA citizen that is not already outside of the USA or making plans to get outside before the fucking thing collapses into hell by 2017 or so, is IMHO insane. The police are being trained to be military. Every local police is being armed with military gear and even tank-like vehicles and even hollow point bullets which are illegal in war by Hague convention because they are so gruesome (exit wound is humongous).

And I also hear they are going to cancel all the passports, so getting another citizenship is crucial.

Folks she's fully cooked, stick a fork in the Statue of Liberty. The shit coming is horrific. You got to be crazy to stay inside the USA when this shit hits the fan.

OTOH, it could get quite ugly every where, as the global economy will collapse every where. The plan appears to be to use Russia to squeeze Europe with its military. And China and Japan will fight in order to squeeze Asia. The globalists have their New World Order planned out.

And given the NDAA law, the USA can go after any person any where without any due process and according to Senator Lindsey Graham "shut you up without a lawyer".

US police is brutal and act before arguing and selling cigarettes in the street should be legal anyway.

That being said, the officer were granted immunity for their testimony except the policeman who killed the man, there are 22 civil witnesses and a clear video with sound.
The grand jury had all latitude to know exactly what happened and make a correct decision. So the policeman probably did nothing illegal if they didn't induct him.
The man who died was probably in bad health and the policeman is suppose to act if the guy is resisting arrest which he was, the policeman doesn't seem to use the choke hold for more than a few seconds on the video, does it? I should add that what happened is a tragedy and that I didn't looked into the tragedy in great details.

Why is this shocking? Lord Acton understood this more than 100 years ago. “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority."

The police are given absolute power over life and death while outfitted and instructed in the methods and given the tools of murder. This is news to people? What planet have you all been living on?

Please enlighten me as to what 3 felonies I committed today. Try as I might, I just can't think of any.

Everyone commits 3 felonies per day. We will be sure to say the same about you when the global police state comes after you as the global economy heads into the abyss 2016 to 2024.


    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Not exactly sure where I mentioned that I thought it was justified. All I said was that it could have easily been prevented had he not been doing something illegal. I refuse to believe that the cop intentionally killed him. And how exactly am I a bigger problem than him? Because I'm a law abiding citizen?
And the obscenities are completely unnecessary.  I haven't cussed at you, so don't do it to me.

as much as i hate cops i am not one who believes every one is corrupt. they are people and therefore they have both good and bad. but my personal experiences are not good. and i do believe there are more bad than good. the military style training they go through and the power they have changes them. they may be good people to friends and family but when on the job they are two faced tyrants towards civilians. the dude was selling loose cigarettes. fuck you if you think this was justified. people like you are a bigger problem than people like him.

I just love how cop haters like to generalize all cops as being corrupt.
So are we to just ignore the fact that he was a career
Criminal who would likely be alive right now had he just
Obeyed the law?

i love how cop lovers always mention the victims criminal history. newsflash! it doesn't matter what happened in the past. that's just a tactic to distract and discredit. smoke and mirrors / character assassination to justify the actions of the police.

Yes, let's generalize all cops as being violent people based on the actions of a few. Cool story bro. Newsflash! Not all cops are violent rapists/murderers/torturers. There are actually quite a few I'm sure that are good people who generally care about other human beings.

I agree that his death was caused by several factors including his poor health (which was his own doing for being morbidly obese) and his own decision to resist arrest. He was being accused of selling loose cigarettes, which, apparently in ultra-liberal New York City, is a crime. It was also stated that he had a rather lengthy rap sheet with 46 charges.

While I do agree that any death that could have otherwise been avoided is a tragedy, to overlook the above stated facts and jump straight to condemnation of the cop who was doing his job of enforcing the law and clearly showed no intent to murder the man is just plain silly.

the music video and story about the man getting arrested for filming was good.

But the man who filmed it is indicted:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9739545

Well we see police violence everyday now thanks to the internet, it's not like before it wasn't there, there wasn't just so much cameras around to tape everything. Sometimes it may be justified, but when it's not don't think whoever beated the crap out of you will be punished. The only thing you can do is either stay out of trouble or submit instantly without even discussing.

I'm not a fan of Bill Maher, but I did appreciate this sentiment:

Agreed.  Charge him with manslaughter.  He was abusive and violent, resulting in the death of suspect.  But he didn't intend to kill him.