no charges for cop who killed man with choke hold - page 5.

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Quote from: WEB slicer on December 03, 2014, 07:28:39 PM

Quote from: solid12345 on December 03, 2014, 07:23:03 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/de-blasio-opposes-anti-choke-hold-law-article-1.2009254

good find, another one slipped through the cracks. let's be honest though, even if it was "officially" illegal he still would have gotten away with it.

Because violating police protocol is a different charge from murdering a man.

If Garner decided to run from the police and had a heart attack, is it murder 1 on the police for chasing him?

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Quote from: solid12345 on December 03, 2014, 07:23:03 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/de-blasio-opposes-anti-choke-hold-law-article-1.2009254

good find, another one slipped through the cracks. let's be honest though, even if it was "officially" illegal he still would have gotten away with it.

you better pray to your god that you don't ever have a group of cops on top of you cause zero fucks will be given about your cries for help.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on December 03, 2014, 07:25:26 PM

So what you are saying is choking someone has no affect on their ability to respirate and deliver oxygen to the brain?

He was choked for only 10 seconds. I guarantee most people can hold their breath for 10 seconds and not die or go into a coma...

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Quote from: solid12345 on December 03, 2014, 07:23:03 PM

Quote from: WEB slicer on December 03, 2014, 07:16:25 PM

blaming his health is a convenient excuse to ignore the fact that choke holding citizens is illegal. end of story.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/de-blasio-opposes-anti-choke-hold-law-article-1.2009254

With a City Councilman poised to introduce legislation that would criminalize police use of a choke hold, Mayor de Blasio reiterated his belief that existing NYPD policy is sufficient.

Choke holds, or any move that restricts a person’s windpipe, have been banned under the NYPD patrol guide since 1993.

It's banned under the NYPD patrol guide but not illegal in a court of law.

But even if he did illegally choke him, there is no nexus between the chokehold and his death. His infamous cry "I can't breathe!" occurred after the chokehold was no longer applied.

If you blame "compression of the neck" for his death then that means no 300 lb. man should ever be taken to the ground because a normal, healthy man would not have perished from such a simple manuever.

So what you are saying is choking someone has no affect on their ability to resperate and deliver oxygen to the brain? Additionally his frail health was his own doing therefore his family has no right to justice for his death even though it still wouldn't have happened if he want choked? I will remember this for the future, maybe I will hit an old man with my car and can get off because he was already really old and probably would have died anyway.

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Quote from: WEB slicer on December 03, 2014, 07:16:25 PM

blaming his health is a convenient excuse to ignore the fact that choke holding citizens is illegal. end of story.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/de-blasio-opposes-anti-choke-hold-law-article-1.2009254

With a City Councilman poised to introduce legislation that would criminalize police use of a choke hold, Mayor de Blasio reiterated his belief that existing NYPD policy is sufficient.

Choke holds, or any move that restricts a person’s windpipe, have been banned under the NYPD patrol guide since 1993.

It's banned under the NYPD patrol guide but not illegal in a court of law.

But even if he did illegally choke him, there is no nexus between the chokehold and his death. His infamous cry "I can't breathe!" occurred after the chokehold was no longer applied.

If you blame "compression of the neck" which is a euphemism for a pinched nerve, for his death then that means no 300 lb. man should ever be taken to the ground because a normal, healthy man would not have perished from such a simple manuever.

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blaming his health is a convenient excuse to ignore the fact that choke holding citizens is illegal.

the coroner ruled his death a homicide due to compression of the neck. that is the official cause of death.

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The man was choked for only 10 seconds, blaming the chokehold is a convenient excuse to ignore he was 300 lbs. overweight and had asthma and diabetes....If the cops had tackled him to the ground he'd still probably died.

Btw I still think the police went overboard but i've seen pro wrestlers give better chokeholds than what that cop did.

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Let more riots ensue to give the police more job security. Win win for police.

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Not surprised there were no charges. It seems people are rarely inclined to hold a cop accountable for excessive force, and the Thin Blue Line will bend over backwards to protect their own from being equal under the law like the citizens they "protect and serve."

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Burn New York!

This shit is out of control in that side of the pond...

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Pigs... they can do what ever they like whenever however then wonder why they are called pigs..

Rape, murder, torture... and nothing ever happens to them..

He should be hung.

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this man lost his life for selling loose cigarettes. it is illegal for officers to use a choke hold as a method to restrain citizens

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/03/justice/new-york-grand-jury-chokehold/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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