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Quote from: michellee on June 06, 2019, 10:19:41 AM

Quote from: Fadhil Pahlawadi on June 05, 2019, 03:14:49 PM

As long as I participate here, I have never seen a question like you asked. Projects directly with the ICO are clearer and far from scams. Maybe you have other meanings with your question, can you explain more clearly?

Maybe he was getting scam from many projects which have ICO and NO ICO, and he wants to know how to detect the scam project. The truth is we don't know how to do that because every project will be potential to be a scam project. But the difference is the real project will still continue the project no matter how bad the market conditions and they will explain everything to their investor about the real situations because they don't want to make their investor worried.

Project without any ico's offering used own investment, the team behind see the potential of their products and with good dedication it will be supported after being available inside the market, OP might confused or suffered from being victimized by those scammed projects that offers ico's and needs to learn more about his research.

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I understand what you mean, I also have the same question, why projects that don't use ICO are far better than those using ico even though they don't use large funds to develop their projects, and I think it's because of the vision and mission of the founder, but that's just a guess I

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I will only express my opinion according to my knowledge. I think the project that is run without ICO is indeed sometimes better because this project without ICO will pay its workers with coins that are already on the market. Of course coins that are on the market are coins that have been proven to be able to survive in the market and potentially provide benefits. But if a project is ICO funded, the ICO will offer their coins which certainly cannot clearly survive and compete in the market or not.

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Quote from: Fadhil Pahlawadi on June 05, 2019, 03:14:49 PM

As long as I participate here, I have never seen a question like you asked. Projects directly with the ICO are clearer and far from scams. Maybe you have other meanings with your question, can you explain more clearly?

Maybe he was getting scam from many projects which have ICO and NO ICO, and he wants to know how to detect the scam project. The truth is we don't know how to do that because every project will be potential to be a scam project. But the difference is the real project will still continue the project no matter how bad the market conditions and they will explain everything to their investor about the real situations because they don't want to make their investor worried.

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Quote from: Gabali126 on June 05, 2019, 06:18:40 PM

Quote from: Avirunes on June 04, 2019, 06:37:12 AM

What exactly do you mean by No-ICO projects? Give an example so that people understand what you are asking. Projects have more control if they hold funding through ICO. So in that way it gives scammer chance to set a trap since there is no third party to look over it.

I guess the original O.P is referring to projects that did not perform token sales for example HYDRO which has continued to do very well in the cryptocurrency market despite not performing any crowdfunding.

Some projects are not performing good in the market unless there was any guide by known market analysts. HYDRO is an exception in this case but I believe their developers made a great job with playing rules of the game.

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Quote from: Avirunes on June 04, 2019, 06:37:12 AM

What exactly do you mean by No-ICO projects? Give an example so that people understand what you are asking. Projects have more control if they hold funding through ICO. So in that way it gives scammer chance to set a trap since there is no third party to look over it.

I guess the original O.P is referring to projects that did not perform token sales for example HYDRO which has continued to do very well in the cryptocurrency market despite not performing any crowdfunding.

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Quote from: CoinCollect on June 05, 2019, 06:06:14 PM

Because those projects that do not conduct ICO look more promising because they often already have a good product and they just need to attract people. And there is less chance that such a project will be a scam.

I don't think so. ICO and any promotional activities will help to make a certain project known to the community and investors could notice it. In this way, investors can look into any scam possibility as they can review feedback for the community. Unlikely, due to the widespread of scam ICO's it makes investors worries and doubts to put their money with them, and it could be better for them to invest those who have already a working product.

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Quote from: CoinCollect on June 05, 2019, 06:06:14 PM

Because those projects that do not conduct ICO look more promising because they often already have a good product and they just need to attract people. And there is less chance that such a project will be a scam.
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Quote from: CoinCollect on June 05, 2019, 06:06:14 PM

Because those projects that do not conduct ICO look more promising because they often already have a good product and they just need to attract people. And there is less chance that such a project will be a scam.

ICO or IEO is needed for startups who do not have the funds to develop their project, at the beginning of the emergence of many cryptocurrency coins that do not need funding only need adoption and support, but now with more competition one and the other coins need more than funds for listings etc.

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Because those projects that do not conduct ICO look more promising because they often already have a good product and they just need to attract people. And there is less chance that such a project will be a scam.

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As long as I participate here, I have never seen a question like you asked. Projects directly with the ICO are clearer and far from scams. Maybe you have other meanings with your question, can you explain more clearly?

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I think you are right because coins like monero ,dero ,deeponion etc hosts no ICO at all and they are doing better ,I think it doesn't matter though ,there are few ones that fund there projects themselves e.g Apollo currency ,I think we all only need to be smarter when choosing coins to invest in

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Not sure what you mean my non ICO project. There are lots of alt coins out there that were created which were either some clone of a coin or some pure shit coins. They just pop up and then dies in just few days. They are just made the developers to dump it in the market and few few bucks profit out of it. Again, ICO projects are not always a scam. There are projects out there that are actually being successful. Again there are projects out there that are just scamming the investors by running away with their money or just failing to deliver what they promised.

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Quote from: Novatech8 on June 04, 2019, 06:28:25 AM

Please my fellow crypto friends I need answers badly about ICO and none ICO projects . my question to you all is
Why are projects with NO ICO always do better than the ones who were actually funded from ICO ? Projects with no funds or whatso ever should be the ones facing what ICO projects are facing excluding scams ones

its not really all non ICO project do better.. it depend of the purpose there a lot of non ico coin that not do well.. if you will look in altcoin ann there a lot of non ico coin that dont even hit exchange some of them was abandon by team because of insufficient funds for development.. some of them was use to pump and dump result is lose of funds of many investor.. before the ICO problem there are non ICO or mineable coin problem where developer release coin a lot daily to use to scam people..

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I often see the ico project, some are successful and some are not successful, but if the project without ico I have never seen it because every project definitely needs funds in carrying out the concept they are compiling, so I have never seen a project without ico.

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Many projects are aimed at institutional investors. And such investors Finance the project with very large sums. Beginning projects are very difficult to develop and most often they turn into scams.

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Quote from: Novatech8 on June 04, 2019, 06:28:25 AM

Please my fellow crypto friends I need answers badly about ICO and none ICO projects . my question to you all is
Why are projects with NO ICO always do better than the ones who were actually funded from ICO ? Projects with no funds or whatso ever should be the ones facing what ICO projects are facing excluding scams ones

What you don't really understand is not about ICO project contributing or not contributing to the progress of a crypto project. The progress of every crypto project solely depends on the actual purpose of the project and what the project is actually solving in the crypto ecosystem and the world in general. Majority of the crypto projects who do not have ICO's basically have well define purposes and addresses realistic problems seen in the entire world.

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If the projects do not conduct ICO now, it does not mean that they are better. Just ordinary investors do not trust the ICO and project developers understand this. Now they are just looking for a sponsor who will be interested in their product and therefore they do not need to raise funds through an ICO.

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Quote from: Avirunes on June 04, 2019, 06:37:12 AM

What exactly do you mean by No-ICO projects? Give an example so that people understand what you are asking. Projects have more control if they hold funding through ICO. So in that way it gives scammer chance to set a trap since there is no third party to look over it.

I think hes talking about projects that give a way free tokens on bounty and airdrops.. but the truth is.. they must have made some forth of private investments .. else the project is definitely a scam

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Quote from: Novatech8 on June 04, 2019, 06:28:25 AM

Please my fellow crypto friends I need answers badly about ICO and none ICO projects . my question to you all is
Why are projects with NO ICO always do better than the ones who were actually funded from ICO ? Projects with no funds or whatso ever should be the ones facing what ICO projects are facing excluding scams ones

Project with no ico doesn't mean there isn't any funds to raise the project.. there must have been some sort of private investment.. anything would be a shit death trap coin

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Yes sure, no knowledge is a waste. I also think people dump ICO coins on exchange because of this same notion that the price normally dumps when listed. And now IEO coins pump because of the notion that the do well upon listing. But that's not the case in all situations. Take for instance IEO listed on Bittrex, which dumped below the IEO price. Also some ICOs still do well upon listing. I think some teams set strong buy wall (buy back strategy) to avoid massive dump.

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