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Quote from: BayAngelo on November 22, 2021, 04:58:47 PM

I think the bear market will hold for long.

Why do you think so, I'm not disputing the fact that it's very much possible for the bear market to last for a while, but if we take a look at the Bitcoin network, it's adoption and the influx of institutional investors into the network in the last one year, then it's prolly safe to say that Bitcoin would probably not stay down for a long time. And then again, manipulation is only temporary on the Bitcoin network, in the long run it becomes ineffective. There will be many more price correction time, and even if I may be wrong, I do not expect Bitcoin to experience a spontaneous and a sustained fall in price

Having said that, the case could prolly be different with other coins, especially those that are easily manipulated by individuals and organizations that own large amount of it, if you're holding such coins, then it's possible it could experience a long bear market, so it's better to take your ROI with such coins when you get it.

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Quote from: BayAngelo on November 22, 2021, 04:58:47 PM

the market looks bearish.

How can the market look bearish? I don't think the current market is in a bearish stage. You must check the market carefully, many crypto coins are increasing their prices. Even Bitcoin price is also quite high, it is still above $55k. If you compare the BTC price at the beginning of 2021, you can see a quite big gap.

Quote from: BayAngelo on November 22, 2021, 04:58:47 PM

we might fall back to 30,000 USD for bitcoin.

It is possible, but when? I think it won't happen in the near future. There is no sign of a severe decrease, the Bitcoin trend looks good. I believe the price of BTC will be above $60k again in the near future.

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The bull market will never be eternal and that is a big mistake at the level of market speculation and investment, the market always has its stages that are always fulfilled, such as the Accumulation and Distribution stages, the market will obviously have to go down to again take a new stage of accumulation, what happens is that the times are difficult to determine, it may happen that another stage of Re-Accumulation occurs, which is very normal in the market, but bear market for now although it is seen that it is something difficult if it can happen, all possibilities are there and can happen.

I also think so. The bull market can't and won't last forever. It's a mistake to think that "this time it is different". Look at the past, in the future we will see similar movements in both directions (up and down)

Yes, in 2017 I thought that bitcoin would never fall in price again, but of course I had no idea how the speculative financial markets of the market moved, like many friends at that time many made bets on altcoins, which obviously left to the floor because BTC from $ 20k went to almost $ 10k and then it fell even more, at that moment it was when I grabbed books and began to learn, so everything indicates the market will always have its accumulation stage, upward trend, Distribution, downtrend , in some way it is the basic, it has its different variations but basically that is what is always fulfilled in general terms.

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Quote from: Cadaver20 on November 22, 2021, 04:56:19 PM

It is very difficult to predict the future of crypto market. However, I believe that the adoption of bull market this time is much stronger than the previous one. Yet no one can say for sure that the bear market will not come.

Nobody can even get 100% accuracy with the market but there are a few that are really good in prediction. But not with this type of prediction.

The bulls are still strong at this time and it's not yet going to be a bear market unless we see the full sense of being in a bear market.

Quote from: Cadaver20 on November 22, 2021, 04:56:19 PM

In addition, the governments of many big countries want to rein in bitcoin, which is an obstacle to its growth.

They're not an obstacle as ever since there's no government that didn't like bitcoin until it had grown a lot overtime and, that's the time when they've became interested on it. When it has already a value.

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Quote from: Cadaver20 on November 22, 2021, 04:56:19 PM

It is very difficult to predict the future of crypto market. However, I believe that the adoption of bull market this time is much stronger than the previous one. Yet no one can say for sure that the bear market will not come. In addition, the governments of many big countries want to rein in bitcoin, which is an obstacle to its growth.

No matter how bullish we are, it will not be an excuse that we will not experience bear season anymore. For sure, it will still happen maybe next year but we can't be certain if it will last only for short term or long term duration. Although the year today is very much different and i can say that its more developed today due to large institutional investors, but it will not guarantee that we will no longer experience a long term bear season. There are still big whales that can manipulate the market, and any negative news that will hit the market, it will also make the market more bearish. So we can only be definite with our prediction once we get there.

Thats true. Although there's a lof of changes and development in crypto compared to past years, it doesnt guarantee that we'll never face a bearish season again or it wont last long because we dont know what lies ahead that can affect crypto as a whole.

However, even bearish season is inevitable, I dont think the prices of coins will plunge the same lowest price as before. Because many investors are still waiting for an opportunity to fill their bags after they witnessed the Bullrun and didnt had the chance to buy at cheaper price before it happened.

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I think that is difficult to happen, crypto is a digital asset that is able to survive when the covid pandemic hits all over the world.
we'll see when covid strikes and all countries lock down, maybe at the beginning crypto goes down but after time crypto starts to rise and
many new investors are starting to get into crypto until recently. Moreover, we see that there are many coins that are hype and offer profits with increases of up to 1000% more to be an attraction
they get into crypto and start studying crypto. I am still optimistic that crypto will continue to grow and succeed.

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Quote from: Cadaver20 on November 22, 2021, 04:56:19 PM

It is very difficult to predict the future of crypto market. However, I believe that the adoption of bull market this time is much stronger than the previous one. Yet no one can say for sure that the bear market will not come. In addition, the governments of many big countries want to rein in bitcoin, which is an obstacle to its growth.

No matter how bullish we are, it will not be an excuse that we will not experience bear season anymore. For sure, it will still happen maybe next year but we can't be certain if it will last only for short term or long term duration. Although the year today is very much different and i can say that its more developed today due to large institutional investors, but it will not guarantee that we will no longer experience a long term bear season. There are still big whales that can manipulate the market, and any negative news that will hit the market, it will also make the market more bearish. So we can only be definite with our prediction once we get there.

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Quote from: BayAngelo on November 22, 2021, 04:58:47 PM

the market looks bearish. remember that most token we saw today were not top 100 last 3 years or 4 years. the current market situation is liable to change. anything can happen. the market is unpredictable. we might fall back to 30,000 USD for bitcoin. anything is still possible. don't think the bull will keep riding just like 2020. I think the bear market will hold for long.

Does the market look bearish? How come? We are even high compared in the past days...
Even though we can see reds on the market doesn't mean that we are in bearish already or that it looks bearish. The market changes always, it comes to green-red and vice versa. Maybe we could only think and say that we are totally in the bearish season when we are at 50% below but still the price is high, that is why it was too far to call it bearish.

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the market looks bearish. remember that most token we saw today were not top 100 last 3 years or 4 years. the current market situation is liable to change. anything can happen. the market is unpredictable. we might fall back to 30,000 USD for bitcoin. anything is still possible. don't think the bull will keep riding just like 2020. I think the bear market will hold for long.

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It is very difficult to predict the future of crypto market. However, I believe that the adoption of bull market this time is much stronger than the previous one. Yet no one can say for sure that the bear market will not come. In addition, the governments of many big countries want to rein in bitcoin, which is an obstacle to its growth.

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During the recent drawdowns of the crypto market, many well-known venture capital companies are trying to buy more Bitcoins, not sell them. I think this is a great indicator that these professional and qualified investors do not believe in a protracted bear market.

I agree with you on this one. This is because Bitcoin has achieved the high that everyone is expecting in this bull market so at the current price, Bitcoin can still do over 50% to 80% and possibly more. If that were to happen, these funds would stand to benefit a lot compared to selling now. We haven't even talked about a possible altseason after Bitcoin has finished it's glorious ride to $100K

In my opinion, an increase in the price of Bitcoin to 100K is not a one-time process, but a long way on which significant falls are possible. However, I believe that the patient investor will wait for this mark)

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Quote from: Beparanf on November 20, 2021, 12:18:53 PM

Quote from: livingfree on November 14, 2021, 06:32:46 PM

Aren't we still in the sensation of being with variants of covid-19? so it just keeps on going and 2.0 might be the description that you can use for that. Grin

About the bear market, do not be sure that it won't last long anymore. I want it to be that short but we cant' be sure if that won't last long because the market has always been unpredictable no matter how good you are reading charts and in analysis.

We can’t determine how long or short the bear will be, the market is way different now in terms pf adoption we see how the price pump and dump in an instant in other altcoins. Maybe in bitcoin we don’t really felt that it took long when it pump or dump since most crypto users are just eyeing having BTC as their investment. In year 2018 almost all altcoins just depend in BTC but now BTC can pump without increasing other altcoins so in terms of different altcoins some will still be affected of long term bear market especially if there still under development or similar projects keep coming on their way.

Adoption keeps the market in a healthy situation. The more people investing and establishments accepting crypto, the chances that we never experience huge dumps in the future. The correction was still possible but not as bad as it was in the previous years. As this market sentiment will able to continue, I think everyone is making a good fortune here. The market seems to keep on growing and prices rise that every investor doesn't think about regrets but instead, they will be happy of being a part of this project.

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Quote from: Gorosden on November 10, 2021, 04:02:59 AM

If bear market is going to happen in 2022 it won't last long like the past because this adoption of a thing is 10x more stronger than the past, if you think that all crypto coins are going to lose 90% of their value again you are dreaming, oh unless Covid 2.0 happens

crypto adoption is getting stronger and heavier reason we didn't see any massive declined until now wherein only short bearish trend and since China left crypto land as well it became so comfortable because you know they're the real reason why market suddenly collapse.. Lol and perhaps that's the reason why market isn't getting weak even its a bearish season because investors are not scared anymore after the good news from china.. That why I'm not surprised as well why bitcoin achieve 3 consecutive all time high despite of some correction in the market. For me for sure 2022 is more better.. Wink

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Quote from: Gorosden on November 10, 2021, 04:02:59 AM

If bear market is going to happen in 2022 it won't last long like the past because this adoption of a thing is 10x more stronger than the past, if you think that all crypto coins are going to lose 90% of their value again you are dreaming, oh unless Covid 2.0 happens

I don't understand if you are being positive about bitcoin or if you are being negative about bitcoin, I had to read the post twice to understand what the purpose of creating this post was, but in the end I understood. well you are sure that it is not possible for the price to drop by 90%

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Quote from: Gorosden on November 10, 2021, 04:02:59 AM

If bear market is going to happen in 2022 it won't last long like the past because this adoption of a thing is 10x more stronger than the past, if you think that all crypto coins are going to lose 90% of their value again you are dreaming, oh unless Covid 2.0 happens

You cant be sure but you do actually have some valid points on where the market now is much more stronger compared it was before where it is somewhat been driven with some hype or being a bubble
but doesnt mean that its an assurance that it is really having on this way because anytime the market could really make out some movement on least we do expect thats why always take consideration
on minding about your risk management or simply on how you do handle your finances well.Always anticipate that worst might happen anytime so that you wouldnt really be that
confident so that you would able to avoid some mistakes on making decisions towards your investment.

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Quote from: Beparanf on November 20, 2021, 12:18:53 PM

Quote from: livingfree on November 14, 2021, 06:32:46 PM

Aren't we still in the sensation of being with variants of covid-19? so it just keeps on going and 2.0 might be the description that you can use for that. Grin

About the bear market, do not be sure that it won't last long anymore. I want it to be that short but we cant' be sure if that won't last long because the market has always been unpredictable no matter how good you are reading charts and in analysis.

We can’t determine how long or short the bear will be, the market is way different now in terms pf adoption we see how the price pump and dump in an instant in other altcoins. Maybe in bitcoin we don’t really felt that it took long when it pump or dump since most crypto users are just eyeing having BTC as their investment. In year 2018 almost all altcoins just depend in BTC but now BTC can pump without increasing other altcoins so in terms of different altcoins some will still be affected of long term bear market especially if there still under development or similar projects keep coming on their way.

Yes, there is already a higher adoption for crypto today's year compared to those previous years but knowing the market still remains unpredictable and very volatile, we can't still be sure if there will be no long term bear market again. We will only know once we cross the bridge.

However, seeing a lot of bigger institutions are already adopting bitcoin, it can be a good factor to consider that the market will be more on bullish than bearish. But this will not guarantee a 100% to happen because the market still moves based on its sudden news and updates from social media and it definitely affect the market either in a positive or negative way.

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Quote from: UDONNA on November 20, 2021, 12:33:03 PM

During the recent drawdowns of the crypto market, many well-known venture capital companies are trying to buy more Bitcoins, not sell them. I think this is a great indicator that these professional and qualified investors do not believe in a protracted bear market.

I agree with you on this one. This is because Bitcoin has achieved the high that everyone is expecting in this bull market so at the current price, Bitcoin can still do over 50% to 80% and possibly more. If that were to happen, these funds would stand to benefit a lot compared to selling now. We haven't even talked about a possible altseason after Bitcoin has finished it's glorious ride to $100K

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Quote from: Gorosden on November 10, 2021, 04:02:59 AM

If bear market is going to happen in 2022 it won't last long like the past because this adoption of a thing is 10x more stronger than the past, if you think that all crypto coins are going to lose 90% of their value again you are dreaming, oh unless Covid 2.0 happens

I actually think that there is a lot of irrationality in the market right now.

90% of current projects dying within a decade is not unreasonable and it's not a knock on the crypto market. It's just that overall, innovation has stalled to the point where a lot of differentiation between projects have become pure bogus.

Invest in the established projects that have shown a track record of development, e.g. ETH, BNB.

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Quote from: coco23 on November 20, 2021, 12:09:19 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on November 20, 2021, 09:29:06 AM

The bull market will never be eternal and that is a big mistake at the level of market speculation and investment, the market always has its stages that are always fulfilled, such as the Accumulation and Distribution stages, the market will obviously have to go down to again take a new stage of accumulation, what happens is that the times are difficult to determine, it may happen that another stage of Re-Accumulation occurs, which is very normal in the market, but bear market for now although it is seen that it is something difficult if it can happen, all possibilities are there and can happen.

I also think so. The bull market can't and won't last forever. It's a mistake to think that "this time it is different". Look at the past, in the future we will see similar movements in both directions (up and down)

The people that think like that do not understand the markets and yet they are part of them, they do not understand the simple reality that if you want to earn some money then someone else needs to lose, and if you want to earn big then many people need to lose their money, this means that it is impossible for the market to be in a perpetual bull run, however the same principle also protects a market with strong fundamentals to go down forever, which is why the timing of our investments is so important as it is important to take advantage of the dips we see in the market.

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people own their decision, but most of them will do what we want. thats important point that the price wont hit the ground like previous years, and all of crypto maniac know what to do. investment process will be more difficult, than will be drain your fund. time add the difficulty, people who survive always follow the progess.

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