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November 12, 2023, 11:27:27 AM
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November 12, 2023, 10:13:55 AM
#86
Exactly.

That's what gambling is and the variance of the casino that a gambler will choose still will depend on his or her own experience. Also the risk won't change at all unless the gambler chooses an unknown casino and that has come up with a lot of red flags.

But with everything else related to choice, it's not a problem to choose the legit casinos because we have a lot of it if you're just going to lurk on this section, you'll see a lot of it. The best and the worst ones.
Understanding a casino and the terms is what we really need to know to start gambling on a Casino. It does not make any sense when we just started using a casino that we see online or we are referred to use without making any research on it.
But that's the reality.

There are gamblers that don't do research as long as it's referred by one of their peers or colleagues or anyone that they've known for a long time. Can't blame them without having any bit of research about those casinos that they are not aware of and that is because they trust the person first.

There are gamblers that are never conscious at all and all they care is to make fast profits especially when they see attractive offers from the casino like bonus bets and other benefits.
That's normal.

What is unusual is when we see gamblers that don't want to win and even if there is an opportunity that they can take to make some bonuses from the promotions and not taking it despite being eligible, they're wasting that opportunity.

As a gambler, we are all responsible for our decisions and we shouldn't blindly subscribe to a casino because of appealing offers.
That is why I have said that it all depends to the experience if you're the type that you try them first before you proceed.
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November 12, 2023, 09:22:00 AM
#85
Remember that gambling is risky, even if the bookie is trusted, the point is to do your own research before betting and believe in the bookie, if you are sure do it and if you are not sure don't do it, I personally don't dare say which bookie is honest or not, gambling has its own sequence for bettors.
Exactly.

That's what gambling is and the variance of the casino that a gambler will choose still will depend on his or her own experience. Also the risk won't change at all unless the gambler chooses an unknown casino and that has come up with a lot of red flags.

But with everything else related to choice, it's not a problem to choose the legit casinos because we have a lot of it if you're just going to lurk on this section, you'll see a lot of it. The best and the worst ones.
Understanding a casino and the terms is what we really need to know to start gambling on a Casino. It does not make any sense when we just started using a casino that we see online or we are referred to use without making any research on it. There are gamblers that are never conscious at all and all they care is to make fast profits especially when they see attractive offers from the casino like bonus bets and other benefits. As a gambler, we are all responsible for our decisions and we shouldn't blindly subscribe to a casino because of appealing offers.


That might be very true before, many years ago, but it's not currently very true anymore today. Many gamblers, including newbies, could already get information or already know the information about wagering requirements in Deposit Bonuses and in other benefits whenever they're being offered. Forums such us ours, gambling forums and other places where users could meet online and discuss different offers have definitely helped in educating the community.
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November 11, 2023, 01:02:07 PM
#84
Remember that gambling is risky, even if the bookie is trusted, the point is to do your own research before betting and believe in the bookie, if you are sure do it and if you are not sure don't do it, I personally don't dare say which bookie is honest or not, gambling has its own sequence for bettors.
Exactly.

That's what gambling is and the variance of the casino that a gambler will choose still will depend on his or her own experience. Also the risk won't change at all unless the gambler chooses an unknown casino and that has come up with a lot of red flags.

But with everything else related to choice, it's not a problem to choose the legit casinos because we have a lot of it if you're just going to lurk on this section, you'll see a lot of it. The best and the worst ones.
Understanding a casino and the terms is what we really need to know to start gambling on a Casino. It does not make any sense when we just started using a casino that we see online or we are referred to use without making any research on it. There are gamblers that are never conscious at all and all they care is to make fast profits especially when they see attractive offers from the casino like bonus bets and other benefits. As a gambler, we are all responsible for our decisions and we shouldn't blindly subscribe to a casino because of appealing offers.
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November 11, 2023, 03:54:29 AM
#83
Remember that gambling is risky, even if the bookie is trusted, the point is to do your own research before betting and believe in the bookie, if you are sure do it and if you are not sure don't do it, I personally don't dare say which bookie is honest or not, gambling has its own sequence for bettors.
Exactly.

That's what gambling is and the variance of the casino that a gambler will choose still will depend on his or her own experience. Also the risk won't change at all unless the gambler chooses an unknown casino and that has come up with a lot of red flags.

But with everything else related to choice, it's not a problem to choose the legit casinos because we have a lot of it if you're just going to lurk on this section, you'll see a lot of it. The best and the worst ones.
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November 10, 2023, 05:43:10 PM
#82
This is how business should be and if there's really a cases that they drive out the winners then maybe they are a scam casino and doesn't want their gamblers to win so we should avoid that.
You clearly have no idea how sportsbooks function. Most sportsbooks are considered soft sportsbooks which implies that they don't like consistent winners and chase them away by limiting their bets.

Only few books are considered sharp like Pinnacle, Bookmaker etc which welcome winning punters and don't chase them away at all.

I don't know why some people will just out of their own personal assumption made a conclusion on what is not it, why are they thinking that sportbooks are being manipulated by the providers, if this had been that easy or possible to achieve then why are sone gamblers still found winning over the house, or maybe we should ask why many gamblers are still interested in going after this while gambling.
There's always that reason and its not something that you can removed on human beings.  Grin

Stay or deal up on the place on which you do seem comfortable, some might be having that notable difference in terms of handling out their bettors or customers
We do have tons of choices in speaking about platforms and its up to you which one you would really be deciding on where to play. The lists above given
about that sportsbook that currently existing, it might not be updated considering that there are new platforms as of this moment which is also
that considerable in speaking about reputation and legitimacy.
The choice to gamble on a specific casino is solely aimed at how the gambler views the casino and what level of trust he builds within the time that he may have gambled on the casino,  and if he finds that casino worthy to stay with all the time,  we have seen several time where gamblers who failed to carry out adequate search about a casino fall for the scams casinos that we have around and that is one of a hell experience that no one will want to go through.

Imagine having your money stuck on a casino that you failed to carry out adequate research on to know how they operate and treat their clients when it comes to game probability fairness and withdrawal transparency.
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November 10, 2023, 04:59:27 PM
#81
This is how business should be and if there's really a cases that they drive out the winners then maybe they are a scam casino and doesn't want their gamblers to win so we should avoid that.
You clearly have no idea how sportsbooks function. Most sportsbooks are considered soft sportsbooks which implies that they don't like consistent winners and chase them away by limiting their bets.

Only few books are considered sharp like Pinnacle, Bookmaker etc which welcome winning punters and don't chase them away at all.

I don't know why some people will just out of their own personal assumption made a conclusion on what is not it, why are they thinking that sportbooks are being manipulated by the providers, if this had been that easy or possible to achieve then why are sone gamblers still found winning over the house, or maybe we should ask why many gamblers are still interested in going after this while gambling.
There's always that reason and its not something that you can removed on human beings.  Grin

Stay or deal up on the place on which you do seem comfortable, some might be having that notable difference in terms of handling out their bettors or customers
We do have tons of choices in speaking about platforms and its up to you which one you would really be deciding on where to play. Lists above given
about those sportsbook that currently existing, it might not be updated considering that there are new platforms as of this moment which is also
that considerable in speaking about reputation and legitimacy.
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November 10, 2023, 04:59:12 PM
#80
You can always use the link in my signature to join Stake. Stake is one of the older and most popular online gambling sites with both a sports book and a casino for online gambling. They also have a great reputation and sponsor celebrities like Drake, so you know everything is legal and on the up and up. I vouch for them.


No offense meant but you seem to be the only positive review I have gotten about stake.

I see stake everywhere in this forum and outside it, at a point I considered using their services and told a friend who wanted to try the bitcoin option as currency but on two occasions I got reviews that isn't close to positive about stake and I walked away from it.


In using platforms, reviews are the only go-to for onlookers and prospects, so you wouldn't blame me if I say I'm pointing out your review as the first positive I've seen in here about stake.
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November 10, 2023, 04:47:43 PM
#79
This is how business should be and if there's really a cases that they drive out the winners then maybe they are a scam casino and doesn't want their gamblers to win so we should avoid that.
You clearly have no idea how sportsbooks function. Most sportsbooks are considered soft sportsbooks which implies that they don't like consistent winners and chase them away by limiting their bets.

Only few books are considered sharp like Pinnacle, Bookmaker etc which welcome winning punters and don't chase them away at all.

I don't know why some people will just out of their own personal assumption made a conclusion on what is not it, why are they thinking that sportbooks are being manipulated by the providers, if this had been that easy or possible to achieve then why are sone gamblers still found winning over the house, or maybe we should ask why many gamblers are still interested in going after this while gambling.
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November 10, 2023, 01:35:48 PM
#78
Op this is the 4th page of this thread and as I was reading the first page of the thread and I see that the question of the op has been answered so I advise the op to lock the thread because there is nothing to discuss here again. If anyone is answering the op then it will be a repetition of others. I think this has been discussed in Meta days back. And to the OP again if the question has been answered then the thread should be lock. Thanks.
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November 10, 2023, 11:33:36 AM
#77
This is how business should be and if there's really a cases that they drive out the winners then maybe they are a scam casino and doesn't want their gamblers to win so we should avoid that.
You clearly have no idea how sportsbooks function. Most sportsbooks are considered soft sportsbooks which implies that they don't like consistent winners and chase them away by limiting their bets.

Only few books are considered sharp like Pinnacle, Bookmaker etc which welcome winning punters and don't chase them away at all.
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November 10, 2023, 10:20:24 AM
#76
Does anyone know any bookmakers with a wide line that are not scams, it doesn?t matter whether it?s a crypto bookmaker or a regular bookmaker like bet365 alternative  ?

I think that most Sportsbooks that you can find being advertised on Bitcointalk by users without red trust are legit, no-scam Sportsbooks. But that does not mean that the bookmaker behind it all is not trying to take you for all you got. Even if it means being "unfair" or shady. But in most cases they at the very least follow the laws and regulations. So that is one thing you can be more or less certain about.

Scams are not the majority but rather a minority of gambling platforms. But you should always be careful and check in with the gambling community. Like the one on this forum, for example.

So you are doing everything right, to avoid scams, I would say.
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November 10, 2023, 08:53:07 AM
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Does anyone know any bookmakers with a wide line that are not scams, it doesn?t matter whether it?s a crypto bookmaker or a regular bookmaker like bet365 alternative  ?
As far as I know, there are many sports betting bookies here, where they often bet, maybe you can review them here: Games and rounds, what is certain is that we know that sports betting bookies currently act online, of course the online nature of never knowing what will happen after you place a bet, whether they cheat or not.

Remember that gambling is risky, even if the bookie is trusted, the point is to do your own research before betting and believe in the bookie, if you are sure do it and if you are not sure don't do it, I personally don't dare say which bookie is honest or not, gambling has its own sequence for bettors.
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November 10, 2023, 08:14:42 AM
#74
In all, every casino is unique in their different ways, we the gamblers are the ones to search and choose one that really meets our expectations and stick with them, there is no perfect system anywhere in the world.
Problem here is that we cannot stick to such sites even though we like them a lot due to limits/restrictions on certain popular sports which is why we end up shifting to other platforms.

Sucks that so many sportsbooks chase away winning gamblers quickly, but it makes sense from a financial point of view.

The only thing to do with that restriction is to choose a reputable sportsbook that allow us to bet without any worry about such matter. To many reputable casino exist at the moment so there's nothing to worry for picking up those especially if we are here since we can browse those reputable casino offering good service to the community.

 I don't know if they really chase away those winning gamblers since I don't encounter it so far but one thing is for sure they need those guys to gamble back on their casino again since they know that not all the time those guy will always win and there's a lot of chance that they can get a profit from those people especially if they got hook and lost a lot of money unto their casino. This is how business should be and if there's really a cases that they drive out the winners then maybe they are a scam casino and doesn't want their gamblers to win so we should avoid that.
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November 10, 2023, 03:20:28 AM
#73
In all, every casino is unique in their different ways, we the gamblers are the ones to search and choose one that really meets our expectations and stick with them, there is no perfect system anywhere in the world.
Problem here is that we cannot stick to such sites even though we like them a lot due to limits/restrictions on certain popular sports which is why we end up shifting to other platforms.

Sucks that so many sportsbooks chase away winning gamblers quickly, but it makes sense from a financial point of view.
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November 09, 2023, 05:41:57 PM
#72
all in all ím really not satisfied right now, ím waiting for another sportsbet account but most of the time i use local bookies with fiat and sportsmarket with crypto….. cause not a single bookie will beat the quality of a bet365 :=
Well, I think every online gambling casino are unique in their own way, I myself have been gambling for about a year now or two now, I have played on few casinos like owl.game, this is the first crypto casino I played on, played on Bc.games followed by BetFury and one other I can't remember it's name, and then right now, I've been playing on stake for quite some time now, I can sincerely say that stake is actually the best I've ever played on, and I am not saying this because I am wearing or promoting them through my signature ad, I started play on stake way before I was accepted into their signature ad campaign.

I've actually played on a lot of other casinos though, like 1xbet and so, but my play on this casinos is usually once in a blue moon, most especially when they have a very special bonus or promotion running.

And yeah, I also usually do the same, that is, use local casinos with fiat, even though most of them we have here have already implemented crypto deposit and withdrawals, but I always prefer to use fiat on them, but on global casinos like stake and the rest, crypto is always the choice.

In all, every casino is unique in their different ways, we the gamblers are the ones to search and choose one that really meets our expectations and stick with them, there is no perfect system anywhere in the world.
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November 09, 2023, 03:54:10 PM
#71
over the last decade i have used around 150 different bookmakers. the last 2 years i focused more on „crypto“ bookmakers, but there are not much for hard punters who need more than mainstream leagues.

stake is quite serious and easy to handle, but low choice of markets, also on big leagues. you are able to bet high amounts on mainstream, but low leagues you also receive very hard limits.

sportsbet.io is very good, and offer a wide range on games/leagues, but as usual you receive fast limits

all bookies with betby software like coinsgame,bc, rollbit, betfury have a wide range on games, but for example coins offers more than rollbit, although same software. limits will be fast

betflip uses a nice software with very wide range, like gamdom, but 1k is maximum you can win Smiley

wolf and bitsler seems also very serious but low amount of games, wolf very low

betcoin i think also changes software within the last year, do not like it

nitrobetting and nitrogames are nice and good limits at the beginning, but i had issues there when me and some friends bet the same games. so we got restricted accounts. at the end everything was payed out. in my opinion this bookies could be really cool, but i do not see much improvement from software site over the last year

then there are a bunch of bookies using software i think called upgaming…. very big range of games, markets…. but also fast limits

many softbooks which are able to pay with cryptos but also fiat, i do not want to mention ,cause this would be to long

all in all ím really not satisfied right now, ím waiting for another sportsbet account but most of the time i use local bookies with fiat and sportsmarket with crypto….. cause not a single bookie will beat the quality of a bet365 :=
That's a pretty good write up on the bookmakers. One correction would be on Betcoin. The new version is complicated for some because it has so many betting options. More options than any of the bookmakers but you can still use the old version.

New version https://www.betcoin.ag/sportsbook/betcoinsports
New version with their second book https://www.betcoin.ag/sportsbook/gamebetrsports
Old version https://old.betcoin.ag/sports/old
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November 09, 2023, 02:25:36 PM
#70
over the last decade i have used around 150 different bookmakers. the last 2 years i focused more on „crypto“ bookmakers, but there are not much for hard punters who need more than mainstream leagues.

stake is quite serious and easy to handle, but low choice of markets, also on big leagues. you are able to bet high amounts on mainstream, but low leagues you also receive very hard limits.

sportsbet.io is very good, and offer a wide range on games/leagues, but as usual you receive fast limits

all bookies with betby software like coinsgame,bc, rollbit, betfury have a wide range on games, but for example coins offers more than rollbit, although same software. limits will be fast

betflip uses a nice software with very wide range, like gamdom, but 1k is maximum you can win Smiley

wolf and bitsler seems also very serious but low amount of games, wolf very low

betcoin i think also changes software within the last year, do not like it

nitrobetting and nitrogames are nice and good limits at the beginning, but i had issues there when me and some friends bet the same games. so we got restricted accounts. at the end everything was payed out. in my opinion this bookies could be really cool, but i do not see much improvement from software site over the last year

then there are a bunch of bookies using software i think called upgaming…. very big range of games, markets…. but also fast limits

many softbooks which are able to pay with cryptos but also fiat, i do not want to mention ,cause this would be to long

all in all ím really not satisfied right now, ím waiting for another sportsbet account but most of the time i use local bookies with fiat and sportsmarket with crypto….. cause not a single bookie will beat the quality of a bet365 :=
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November 09, 2023, 11:06:23 AM
#69


desktop version for me is better than mobile phone as the screen is bigger obviously. try playing on your desktop and you will understand the difference of it. i can vouch stake as one of the top casinos as well as sportsbooks out there. not because i am one of the promoters but experience-wise, they are also fast in resolving any issue you submit to them. i think that's one of the reasons stake is good, their chat/technical support is quite good. they won't stop up until you are satisfied with the resolution of your prob. hard to find these days such great assistance from the site.
So since you guys have promoted the adaptation of desktop version against the mobile version in this discussion,  I will then have to share my review on this in the coming days,  I already got a laptop and I will be trying this shit out on it very soon and I will like to give my review on that.

I love my mobile version since it is what I have been used to but then she on VPN,  I always have issues with the speed of loading the casino,  although stake works fine on chrome browser I my mobile.
Well, regarding the versions, I think that each person has different tastes, for example I am more inclined to use it for any case, but the version on my PC is easier for me and it is also more comfortable, because in a mobile version it is What is more difficult for me is to manipulate because it has happened to me with touch that sometimes it is not the same as being with a mouse, a keyboard, that for me is more comfortable, of course I know that there are people who are always there to help do anything from your phone and thus be able to do things from your phones, but I am in favor of this being more focused on doing things because it is more to the tastes of each person, then if it is for the tastes of Everyone can stipulate that things are better for each person according to their belief, I will always defend that it is much better through the PC than through a telephone, and even though there are such advanced telephones, it seems to me that the versions are very small everything from a phone and you have to be very careful and you have to have a unique ability to figure out something, or react well in the casino.

I think the only thing I would play on a phone would be slots, and that's because you have to give it the manual and every time you want, it's the only thing I would play to be able to have everything good and in order, otherwise I think it would be in the PC version, In fact, one day I started playing black jack, epro, not from an app but from my phone's browser, but it was very difficult because sometimes things didn't work out well for me, at the very least, the interface is the same but I'm not that skilled. using the phone so fast and reacting, if sometimes I make a mistake when typing, because it is very easy for a spelling mistake or something like that to go away, then when I play now I don't do it, because it is money that I am risking and hearing a mistake is lelgo Losing money is something I wouldn't like, that's why I'm always going to say that these things are what we, as good players, must decide how we feel comfortable with.
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November 04, 2023, 03:19:14 PM
#68
Worth reading all of your Update about the cases facing by popular casino in crypto gambling . and its best to see how you are dedication in bringing them here in this thread so visitors don't have to dig for cases in other section when this thread is more than enough to find which site are worth trusting and depositing.and thanks for quoting me so I don't have to tell OP checking scam section.also I see some prominent name in the list that still has couple of cases running and seemingly not being answered , hope that they will pay attention in the future.
Other section or thread still offer something different while here it was only sportsbook is the one we are talkin about. It's also not a dedicated thread for those because the OP is only asking it, so finding the useful reply here still takes time whilst on those dedicated threads, it's much easier because all useful information or links are mostly posted in the first post or on the first page.

A little searching on finding them are I think won't hurt at first. For those gambling sites who seem not to listen to the query of their users, I think we should not waste time on them anymore. There are still plenty of fishes in the sea (casino) as they say, and most of them are still in good standings.

Here's the thread where scam reports are filtered by sportsbook. Almost all sportsbooks do have casinos. Some also have a poker room and a horse race book. It also includes links to all ANN threads along with their promo section. My goal was to make it an all inclusive thread for sportsbooks. Input is wanted to help with information as well as to inform other posters.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790
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