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legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 20, 2023, 02:04:27 PM
#27
OP, you created this thread, asked a question about good casinos, which seems to me to be of interest to you in knowing which good casinos currently exist, but you disappeared after creating this thread. not responding to anyone who has posted in this thread, so you have already found a good casino and no longer need any advice and for that reason you are not posting here in this thread? because even if you had already managed to find a good casino, still for the sake of good manners, you had to come to this thread and thank the people who posted in this thread and tell them that you already found a good casino, so people would already know that you already It's a good casino

But not only that, you had to mention which casino you got so that people could also tell you if that casino is good or not, this could be very useful for you, because if you choose a scam casino, then you would avoid being scammed and robbed. . Now if you haven't been able to find a good casino yet, then respond to people in this thread, it's important to be polite and considerate towards people, when you create a thread asking for help, we need to take it seriously and respond to the people who are helping, stay It's ugly to ignore people. In my case, if you read my post, I recommend stake.com, in my opinion they are the best casinos in this market
legendary
Activity: 2576
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 20, 2023, 01:28:24 PM
#26
Does anyone know any bookmakers with a wide line that are not scams, it doesn?t matter whether it?s a crypto bookmaker or a regular bookmaker like bet365 alternative  ?


You can see a lot of bookmakers who is not a scammer.  You may use any bookmakers who has signature campaign on the forum. I am saying signature campaign because those who haa a signature campaign checked by lot of people. So if they are scammer they willl be caught.
Caught? For real? There were many projects who ran a campaign but still end up with a rugpull and scam so I gues it won’t be safe to categorize legitimate ones just because they ran a signature campaign. Those which are acknowledged even outside this industry are those which could be considered as real reputable platforms. But indeed there’ll be too many to mention if that’s the case. Reputable web 3.0 casinos vary in numbers and we just cannot generalize and it would be much better to still tbe cautious of your actions such as not putting that much into a single gambling site. But just to mention, many fraudalent gambling sites managed to aboid being caught and fined for what they’ve done.
legendary
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Top Crypto Casino
October 20, 2023, 06:53:07 AM
#25
I always play with the casino with a sportsbook because I'm a fan of sports and especially the e-sports community, currently, coin royale have its own sportsbook too which is easy to navigate to make a bet, they offer a lot of game too, besides from them there's a sportsbet.io, stake, roobet, and duelbits, its your option but take time to read their terms and agreement and which casino platform is suitable with your gambling habit. Most of the signatures here have their sportsbook those longest running ones are as always reputable.
sr. member
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October 20, 2023, 05:56:50 AM
#24
Does anyone know any bookmakers with a wide line that are not scams, it doesn?t matter whether it?s a crypto bookmaker or a regular bookmaker like bet365 alternative  ?
With the many suggestions about different sport bookmarkers from the replies you have gotten so far am not sure I'll want to add to your burden of choosing from all the suggestions by adding one or more sports bookmarkers. I just want to say this, that apart from looking for a scam free sports bookmarker let me also drag your attention to a few keys things you might be ignoring that might be of added interest for you to consider. While you may not be thinking of it right now you may be needing it later as you will inevitably encounter it later as a gambler here so you don't start complaining you didn't knew.

After your selection of the sportbookmarkers that interest you, also look into their:
1. Deposit limit, some of sportbooks have high deposit/withdrawal limit.
2. What they charge players that withdraws in bitcoin
3. Do the they support certain altcoins that may be of alternative interest to you.
You can still DYOR for more things to look out for. Goodluck in your search.
legendary
Activity: 2660
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October 19, 2023, 06:33:52 PM
#23
There are so many casinos it's not a scam.

However, If you are looking a casino without any single issue-case for sportbook. It's imposible, you want to know the reason ? most issue on casino is always on sportbook user:
- Multi-account to try more the limit.
- Advatage player
- Abuse odds and other.

Comparing to casino user (like slot, and other). The most case in-casino is always on sportbook user,
copper member
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Playbet.io - Crypto Casino and Sportsbook
October 19, 2023, 06:24:26 PM
#22
Does anyone know any bookmakers with a wide line that are not scams, it doesn?t matter whether it?s a crypto bookmaker or a regular bookmaker like bet365 alternative  ?


You can see a lot of bookmakers who is not a scammer.  You may use any bookmakers who has signature campaign on the forum. I am saying signature campaign because those who haa a signature campaign checked by lot of people. So if they are scammer they willl be caught.
hero member
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Top Crypto Casino
October 19, 2023, 11:58:19 AM
#21
Does anyone know any bookmakers with a wide line that are not scams, it doesn?t matter whether it?s a crypto bookmaker or a regular bookmaker like bet365 alternative  ?
you are on the right board and just a look through the various sports that we have around here in the forum you will discover that we have numerous legit and reputation and casinos that offers the sport betting that you are looking for and at that even if I have to refer anyone of them to you it be that I will just be trying to give you my own favourite which you can see from my signature.

But then not only stake that is the reputable soortbookie that we have here but also we have to check out some other few other who have put up a competing market for the whole market and if you choose from any of them you will sure have a good time betting on them.
sr. member
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Vave.com - Crypto Casino
October 19, 2023, 11:50:31 AM
#20
Does anyone know any bookmakers with a wide line that are not scams, it doesn?t matter whether it?s a crypto bookmaker or a regular bookmaker like bet365 alternative  ?
Dont know if these threads is active or updated but listed companies or platforms are indeed legit and known into this forum.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/overview-comprehensive-list-of-crypto-sportsbooks-new-poll-5319144
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/comprehensive-list-of-crypto-sportsbooks-5319239
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rating-of-top-20-cryptocurrency-sportsbooks-5158369

But of course when it comes to  personal suggestions then better tend to check this one out https://www.bk8usd.com/en-us/home
This isnt really just a sportsbook but also it is a casino and several other gambling games on which you could really be able to
chill with or simply click into my signature.  Wink
sr. member
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stead.builders
October 19, 2023, 11:49:20 AM
#19
You can use Bc.game or Stake.com. They are the ones that I can recommend. There are ones like Roobet and Duelbit. I have used Stake before and I like the gambling site. Both also have casinos. But if talking about casinos, I prefer livecasino.io which I do not have complain about at all.

There are many recommendations he could actually choose from by going through the ones members have suggested, the good about them is that there are trusted gambling platforms of this forum, but nevertheless, he should also check in their ANN thread to make more discovery on what is more in for using any one he's choosing, trust and good reputation is what should be after in choosing casinos with best sportbook.
newbie
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October 19, 2023, 09:50:03 AM
#18
Does anyone know any bookmakers with a wide line that are not scams, it doesn?t matter whether it?s a crypto bookmaker or a regular bookmaker like bet365 alternative  ?
betfair wiliam Hill 888sports
hero member
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October 19, 2023, 09:41:29 AM
#17
You can use Bc.game or Stake.com. They are the ones that I can recommend. There are ones like Roobet and Duelbit. I have used Stake before and I like the gambling site. Both also have casinos. But if talking about casinos, I prefer livecasino.io which I do not have complain about at all.

Bc.game showing very dodgy behavior on the current scam accusation that is still unresolved despite they already acknowledged it since last month. I have a lot of local friend that using this casino having a problem on claiming bonuses despite they already meet the requirements.

You can check the reference link for the active scam accusation against bc with proof. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466857.20

legendary
Activity: 3878
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October 18, 2023, 03:16:23 PM
#16
Does anyone know any bookmakers with a wide line that are not scams, it doesn?t matter whether it?s a crypto bookmaker or a regular bookmaker like bet365 alternative  ?
Nitrobetting, Betcoin, mBet, FortuneJack, Betfury, Owl, Roobet, Anonibet, ParlayPlus and Wolf have 0 open scam accusations.

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Nitrobetting A+
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Betcoin A+
. Betcoin does agree to binding 3rd party aribitration of player's choice.
Betcoin   6/17/2023   $7,700.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinag-is-trying-to-scam-me-off-my-77k-usd-balance-resolved-5456682   Resolved
Betcoin   4/23/2023   $1,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinag-scam-1000-5449900   Resolved
Betcoin   4/21/2023   .213 BTC   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoin-permanently-suspended-my-account-and-withholding-my-5449749   Arbitration Offered
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mBet A-
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Stake B
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Stake   6/2/2023   $2,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-scammed-me-due-to-racial-discrimination-and-personal-issues-5454864   
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Bitsler B-
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FortuneJack B-
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Betfury C+
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Cloudbet C+
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Roobet C+
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Duelbits C
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Sportsbet C
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MaverickGames C
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Owl C
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Rollbit C
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Rollbit   6/29/2023   $410.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-disabling-account-and-confiscating-balance-of-410-5458053   Resolved
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Rollbit   6/25/2023   $4,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-holding-4k-withdrawal-been-7-days-5457538   Reolved
Rollbit   5/25/2023   $5,000.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-5k-gdpr-problem-5454027   
Rollbit   4/8/2023   $920.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-hold-funds-and-ignore-in-chat-5448076   
Rollbit   4/6/2023   $255.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-255-usdt-5447740   
Rollbit   4/3/2023   $350.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-scam-5447471   Resolved
Rollbit   3/7/2023   $12,800.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-withdrawal-frozen-for-12800-no-response-5443932   Resolved
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Rollbit   2/21/23   $1,497.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-rollbitcom-you-deposit-1497-busd-you-withdraw-0-account-blocked-5440636   
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Rollbit   1/3/2023   $737.00   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5432854   

TrustDice C
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Anonibet C-
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ParlayPlus C-
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Wolf C-
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legendary
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Logo Designer ⛨ BSFL Division1
October 18, 2023, 02:38:48 PM
#15
Does anyone know any bookmakers with a wide line that are not scams, it doesn?t matter whether it?s a crypto bookmaker or a regular bookmaker like bet365 alternative  ?
My daily bookmaker is Sportsbet.io and I am sure they are not a scam because I use them for last several years without any problem.
It is hard to compete with bet365 but if you want to bet on sport events with bitcoin than Sporsbet is a great option.
There are few more alternative options like Stake that should be ok to use.

Here is my list of casinos I avoid, so maybe you can see what not to use:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5283832
full member
Activity: 998
Merit: 157
October 18, 2023, 02:27:01 PM
#14
Does anyone know any bookmakers with a wide line that are not scams, it doesn?t matter whether it?s a crypto bookmaker or a regular bookmaker like bet365 alternative  ?

I will answer your question in a different way then others have,

Depending on what u are looking for

1- Best odds --

csgo  empire (i trust 100% , been using alot of time)

Shuffle.com (new  site , i dont  trust as much as csgoempire.

Both these sites u will get the BEST ODDS by far compared  to any other crypto site

2- Good sports/casino promotions AND decent odds

sportsbet.io ( 100% trusted, as long as u are 18+ and live in accepted country)

3- Good bonuses(weekly/monthly) AND  Good sports/casino promotions 

stake.com

Negative side -  lower odds

These are  the sites i use the most and would recomment.  

Reply or DM  me for anymore queries
hero member
Activity: 1624
Merit: 791
Bitcoin To The Moon 📈📈📈
October 18, 2023, 01:24:35 PM
#13
I am a Stake.com user this casino has a good reputation both outside and on bitcointalk forums.

You are looking for a sportsbook then choose some of the recommendations of others that will not be misleading here because some of them have played in several casinos with their sports betting.

Question: have you ever been scammed by a bookie before so say no scam sportsbook?
sr. member
Activity: 798
Merit: 364
October 18, 2023, 01:23:05 PM
#12
You can always use the link in my signature to join Stake. Stake is one of the older and most popular online gambling sites with both a sports book and a casino for online gambling. They also have a great reputation and sponsor celebrities like Drake, so you know everything is legal and on the up and up. I vouch for them.

A good suggestion but do you think op knows what signature is all about yet? Op account is brand new that's created today and I doubt if he knows the functions or how to make use of the signature. From my personal experience when I joined the forum newly, I don't know what signatures are. I was just wondering seeing other people with different write up under their post while mine doesn't have, not knowing it's even call signature with encrypted links. I get to know it after my little stay here and I assume it will be the same case with op.

To op, if you want to give stake a trial as suggested by the reply I qoute above, just click on the link under his post before the next person's post and you'll be directed to stake's site. Remember to gamble responsibly.
full member
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October 18, 2023, 01:10:41 PM
#11
OP if you are talking about scam, I will let you know this that there is no way one can do anything with the Crypto or casino and not encounter scam but you will have to be wise and smart enough to detect the and avoid them as that is your own way of dealing with scam. So for you to come here and be asking for a scam free sports book that is what no one can guarantee you but there are  sports book here which are reliable and can be engaged but can no one can guarantee anything for you when it comes to casino. DYOR
hero member
Activity: 3136
Merit: 591
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 18, 2023, 01:08:45 PM
#10
Have you been scammed with the former sportsbooks that you've played before? It seems that you do based on the title that you've made. Well, stake and many of the reputable casinos here won't do that to you. If you're a meticulous type of player and you don't want to get scammed again, choose what you think is best for you. And for the set choices, you're already in the section where announcement threads are made. Explore and read from their threads to have at least the idea that you are looking for. But to give you an idea, all of them have satisfied and dissatisfied customers, the good ones will give the experience that has been done on them and little to no complaints at all. And the other one doesn't have a good experience that even makes them not consider them anymore, so to each their own.
legendary
Activity: 3542
Merit: 1352
Cashback 15%
October 18, 2023, 12:49:50 PM
#9
I have recommended Stake on friends and acquaintances that are looking for a sports book that doesn't require a lot and don't scam their players. There are some complaints of delayed withdrawals, crediting of deposit, or something along those lines, but those are isolated cases that never really happen most of the time to a lot of people. They also have high limits, so if you're a high roller looking to change bookies then you can go and give Stake a try.
hero member
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 18, 2023, 11:40:34 AM
#8
Guys, he is looking for bookmakers.
Stake has a terrible sportsbook with even worse odds, total waste of time.

On most other bookies you get at least 10% better odds than stake. Even sportsbet.io has better odd, even though they are using the same odds provider. Shows you how greedy stake is.
I shared this some days ago. At basketball odds are bad but not as bad as on for example volleyball or tennis.
Still pinnacle is much better.



The best odds you will always get at pinnacle or betfair. Betfair surely is great but since it's a betting exchange this might have a huge impact on limits. If nobody is offering odds then there is nothing to bet on of course.

Pinnacle on the other hand has the best odds online in my opinion. Sure the live betting is not as big and fancy as bet365 but if you don't care about live this is the site you want to use.
They also offer crypto deposits and withdrawals now, the money in the account though is always converted into a chosen currency.


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