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Topic: NobleCoin[NOBL] - 8% PoS | 1Yr+ | MARKETPLACE | PAY | GIFT | CHARITIES/MERCHANTS - page 229. (Read 1053172 times)

hero member
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But...it is dynamic interest, so it is very unlikely that we would get to that, and if we did it would mean that not many people are staking so there would be a relatively low amount of new coins being produced [someone insert some maths here please].

I'm not sure: a huge share of the NOBL out there are in exchange wallets, which will be staking. IME exchanges now rarely (if ever) still credit stakes to user accounts, which means they'll be sitting on huge stashes of NOBL after a while. People *may* withdraw massively, but then again, they may not.

Leaving a staking wallet open 24/7 for a regular users is problematic: machines needs to be online 24/7, wallets must be unlocked, ie. low security, and users that can afford and properly manage a cloud VM for their staking are not going to be common.
Exchange and cloud-based wallets on the other hand will be staking 24/7, performing input/output transactions, etc.

So a PoS NOBL that is user friendly should probably go hand-in-hand with a staking web wallet service... which in itself is not so simple once you consider 24/7 uptime requirements, security and especially user support.

Fair points :/

Do all exchanges stake? I thought it was just cryptorush? The way I see it is if you have the chance to get a lot of free coins by having your wallet open, you won't leave many on an exchange.

I guess though that at the moment the regular users are mostly miners who will be mining something else now, so will just leave the wallet staking as well. If it was me, for 175% interest, I would leave my laptop on all day, the benefits would easily outweigh the costs. That, I think, is the argument for high interest PoS, the gains are so high, that you have to stake!

I actually have a small media server at home that will be running my wallet.

I think in terms of security you can now unlock wallets just for minting.
newbie
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"NOBL will have a 175%/750% annual interest rate. This means that if you have 10,000 NOBL, after one year you will have 17,500/75,000 NOBL."

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No numbers are in stone yet.  But currently the expectation is 175%.

10,000 to 17,500 would correspond to a 75% interest rate actually, no?

175% would mean the 10k become 27.5k

It's still a fairly steep inflation IMHO, which will put a lot of pressure on the price.

Another worry is that the largest fund holders are exchanges (cf http://chainz.cryptoid.info/nobl/#!rich), which will naturally get most from PoS, and they have not incentive in holding (and keep in mind that the rich list only tags positively ID'ed exchange wallets, it can't tag all addresses, cold wallets, etc. so it's an under-estimation).

PoS could just end up replacing miners dumps by exchange dumps...
if I understand correctly, in this case we must not forget that the coins that we get as a reward, after a while, too, will receive the award, so in this case 175% per annum of 10,000 coins will not make 27,500 coins, but much more, about 55,000 coins
sorry for my English
legendary
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But...it is dynamic interest, so it is very unlikely that we would get to that, and if we did it would mean that not many people are staking so there would be a relatively low amount of new coins being produced [someone insert some maths here please].

I'm not sure: a huge share of the NOBL out there are in exchange wallets, which will be staking. IME exchanges now rarely (if ever) still credit stakes to user accounts, which means they'll be sitting on huge stashes of NOBL after a while. People *may* withdraw massively, but then again, they may not.

Leaving a staking wallet open 24/7 for regular users is problematic: machines needs to be online 24/7, wallets must be unlocked, ie. low security, and users that can afford and properly manage a cloud VM for their staking are not going to be common.
Exchange and cloud-based wallets on the other hand will be staking 24/7, performing input/output transactions, etc.

So a PoS NOBL that is user friendly should probably go hand-in-hand with a staking web wallet service... which in itself is not so simple once you consider 24/7 uptime requirements, security and especially user support.
hero member
Activity: 691
Merit: 500
Quote
"NOBL will have a 175%/750% annual interest rate. This means that if you have 10,000 NOBL, after one year you will have 17,500/75,000 NOBL."

...

No numbers are in stone yet.  But currently the expectation is 175%.

10,000 to 17,500 would correspond to a 75% interest rate actually, no?

175% would mean the 10k become 27.5k

It's still a fairly steep inflation IMHO, which will put a lot of pressure on the price.

Another worry is that the largest fund holders are exchanges (cf http://chainz.cryptoid.info/nobl/#!rich), which will naturally get most from PoS, and they have not incentive in holding (and keep in mind that the rich list only tags positively ID'ed exchange wallets, it can't tag all addresses, cold wallets, etc. so it's an under-estimation).

PoS could just end up replacing miners dumps by exchange dumps...

But...it is dynamic interest, so it is very unlikely that we would get to that, and if we did it would mean that not many people are staking so there would be a relatively low amount of new coins being produced [someone insert some maths here please].

I like the high PoS idea, if it works it puts us in a bit of a niche.
legendary
Activity: 1100
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Quote
"NOBL will have a 175%/750% annual interest rate. This means that if you have 10,000 NOBL, after one year you will have 17,500/75,000 NOBL."

...

No numbers are in stone yet.  But currently the expectation is 175%.

10,000 to 17,500 would correspond to a 75% interest rate actually, no?

175% would mean the 10k become 27.5k

It's still a fairly steep inflation IMHO, which will put a lot of pressure on the price.

Another worry is that the largest fund holders are exchanges (cf http://chainz.cryptoid.info/nobl/#!rich), which will naturally get most from PoS, and they have not incentive in holding (and keep in mind that the rich list only tags positively ID'ed exchange wallets, it can't tag all addresses, cold wallets, etc. so it's an under-estimation).

PoS could just end up replacing miners dumps by exchange dumps...
legendary
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www.bitcoinprbuzz.com would be a good idea for a press release on announcement. Their site seems down at the moment, assuming they r even still in business?Huh

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/delete-321774
legendary
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Blockchain Developer
Please everyone who is wondering what is PoS, how it will work for NOBL, what should I do, is PoS a bad idea... please come to Noble Stake and either edit or ask question with comment (Insert/Comment).

"NOBL will have a 175%/750% annual interest rate. This means that if you have 10,000 NOBL, after one year you will have 17,500/75,000 NOBL."

What? Tongue

175% annually or 750% annually?

17,500/75,000 = 0.23... I don't understand those numbers...

EDIT:
I think it means it is not decided yet and can be from 175% to 750% ... ?


No numbers are in stone yet.  But currently the expectation is 175%.
hero member
Activity: 728
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Activity: yes
Please everyone who is wondering what is PoS, how it will work for NOBL, what should I do, is PoS a bad idea... please come to Noble Stake and either edit or ask question with comment (Insert/Comment).

"NOBL will have a 175%/750% annual interest rate. This means that if you have 10,000 NOBL, after one year you will have 17,500/75,000 NOBL."

What? Tongue

175% annually or 750% annually?

17,500/75,000 = 0.23... I don't understand those numbers...

EDIT:
I think it means it is not decided yet and can be from 175% to 750% ... ?
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1001
Please everyone who is wondering what is PoS, how it will work for NOBL, what should I do, is PoS a bad idea... please come to Noble Stake and either edit or ask question with comment (Insert/Comment).

First time I've seen a google doc in live edit mode like that... pretty cool.
hero member
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Monero Core Team
Please everyone who is wondering what is PoS, how it will work for NOBL, what should I do, is PoS a bad idea... please come to Noble Stake and either edit or ask question with comment (Insert/Comment).
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
we really gotta do a proper job on publicity when fork and POS is announced.  Gotta push this on social media and wake people the fuck up 2 NOBL!!!!!

thats the plan!
we need to spread the news all over the internet.

any ideas how we can do this? what about stickers or adds in newspapers/ homepages which show the marketplace or such things?

fact is, we need to collect some nobles to purchase it.
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 1001
we really gotta do a proper job on publicity when fork and POS is announced.  Gotta push this on social media and wake people the fuck up 2 NOBL!!!!!
full member
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CLOAKCOIN. NOBLECOIN. VERICOIN.
Another 40K in the Noble bank for me.

Still hoarding. Wink

Excited about POS and fork.. Smiley

Great to see some new names here also.. Smiley
member
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why not just buy now? price is low as it is.


yup, had bought NOBL today @ 15...
legendary
Activity: 1946
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@ presstab & rofo,

may i ask how many more weeks left until the new fork would be coming out? this is for us to plan our move in buying more NOBL...

thanks


  Wink Grin

why not just buy now? price is low as it is.
newbie
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member
Activity: 75
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@ presstab & rofo,

may i ask how many more weeks left until the new fork would be coming out? this is for us to plan our move in buying more NOBL...

thanks


  Wink Grin
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BUY MORE FROM THE MARKET PLACE NOW THAT I HAVE COMPLETED A SALE THERE

https://www.noblemovement.com/marketplace/

I want to give noble my coin- any chance you could add boost phone cards or gas cards
trustworthy merchants are in short supply
hero member
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Yes....the money still exist unless i burn it or wipe my arse with it.

perhaps if you burn it.. but not if you wipe ur arse with it by your theory. i suppose you could just wash it off and go buy a hotdog!?

but no, burning money isnt really a cool idea. especially when you can buy btc and invest in noblecoin with it ;p
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
Blockchain Developer
Did the fork already happend?
Do I need to download a new wallet or something?

We are still working. But I can report that the bulk of the work for the fork has been completed. We are going to be entering a rigorous testing phase this week I expect (depending on how the holidays throw off our timing and everyone's ability to help).  After the testing phase I expect there will be some polish of the code and then expect a full press release from rofo announcing the precise parameter changes and the date of the fork.  At that time I will also have some press releases with tutorials about how staking works and how to use coin control to maximize your staking reward.

At this point I would recommend checking this forum thread every 1 or 2 days to make sure you don't miss any announcements.
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