NODE Puppet Removal Temporary Complain Page! - page 9.

hypersire

hero member

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Quote from: dzarmush on July 11, 2014, 08:45:17 PM

Quote from: schnötzel on July 11, 2014, 08:31:44 PM

Investigate again!?

edit:

"Following your logic the best number of judges is 1 Smiley 100% majority, what can be better....."

Cheesy

But with only 1 judge there´s no majority

edit2:

I´m hoping we will have 100% with 4 judges in general

What's your position, by the way? )

That's mine:
1. Unlabel all groups of 2 people without questioning. If anybody wanted to make puppets he wouldn't stop with just one and would make at least 5-10. Also there is absolutely not any chance to prove that 2 account are puppets, not family/friends/roommates.
2. Check IPs of groups of 3 people. Unlabel everybody with Tor/Corporate/Education IPs.
3. Take a closer look on groups of 4-5 people with Tor IPs. If they didn't sign up to 4-5 accounts in a raw within few minutes unlabel them also.
4. PM all other people and ask them to explain how come they have the same IP as people in their groups.
5. See how it goes and think what to do.

If devs have more evidences than IPs we need to take them into consideration of course.

I think this is a solid strategy. Obviously there were people with huge groups of puppets (Koop mentioned one guy with 45). Those are the ones that we definitely want gone out of Node, not two people who state they are friends/partners/roomates.

stuipooi123

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Quote from: timmyd on July 11, 2014, 04:19:40 PM

Please see your main thread for pictures of me and stuipooi123 proving we are not puppets thanks. he lives with me hence the same ip. would appreciate not been labelled as a puppet. thanks

As above i live with timmyd. That why we have the same ip. An tim if we keep having this same problem then you are going to have to move out Cheesy

lol

Shivalein

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Hi,

I got deleted from stakeholderlist because of beeing a sockpuppet of Momimaus.
I am not. Momimaus stated that already by PM to koop4u.
I am just his girlfriend.
This wasn´t a stake for family, I am a unique person. Just take a look at my posts and stuff.
Can´t say more, I am just pissed of cryptos more and more.

schnötzel

legendary

Activity: 1316

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Bitcoin is a bit**

Quote from: dzarmush on July 11, 2014, 08:45:17 PM

What's your position, by the way? )

Quote from: mirador17 on July 12, 2014, 05:23:46 AM

100% agree.
I'm also curious about the "secret method" to find sockpuppets

mirador17

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Activity: 799

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Quote from: dzarmush on July 11, 2014, 08:45:17 PM

What's your position, by the way? )

That's mine:
1. Unlabel all groups of 2 people without questioning. If anybody wanted to make puppets he wouldn't stop with just one and would make at least 5-10. Also there is absolutely not any chance to prove that 2 account are puppets, not family/friends/roommates.
2. Check IPs of groups of 3 people. Unlabel everybody with Tor/Corporate/Education IPs.
3. Take a closer look on groups of 4-5 people with Tor IPs. If they didn't sign up to 4-5 accounts in a raw within few minutes unlabel them also.
4. PM all other people and ask them to explain how come they have the same IP as people in their groups.
5. See how it goes and think what to do.

If devs have more evidences than IPs we need to take them into consideration of course.

100% agree.
I'm also curious about the "secret method" to find sockpuppets

haggis

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Activity: 984

Merit: 1000

Hello,

please remove the puppet tag from me and my roomate (P91). Don't know what/how to prove any more...I'm the Bitcoin enthusiast and he's just trying out with the one or other hint I give him.
If you need any more information, please let us now.

Also sorry for getting angry on the main thread. I just thought everything was already decided and got the feeling to get scammed again.

JohnHolmes

newbie

Activity: 23

Merit: 0

Hi
Somehow I ended up on the puppet list as p67. I am TOR user. Please remove my puppet status.
thanks

mellorbo

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Activity: 620

Merit: 500

Quote from: dzarmush on July 11, 2014, 08:45:17 PM

Quote from: schnötzel on July 11, 2014, 08:31:44 PM

Investigate again!?

edit:

"Following your logic the best number of judges is 1 Smiley 100% majority, what can be better....."

Cheesy

But with only 1 judge there´s no majority

edit2:

I´m hoping we will have 100% with 4 judges in general

What's your position, by the way? )

That's mine:
1. Unlabel all groups of 2 people without questioning. If anybody wanted to make puppets he wouldn't stop with just one and would make at least 5-10. Also there is absolutely not any chance to prove that 2 account are puppets, not family/friends/roommates.
2. Check IPs of groups of 3 people. Unlabel everybody with Tor/Corporate/Education IPs.
3. Take a closer look on groups of 4-5 people with Tor IPs. If they didn't sign up to 4-5 accounts in a raw within few minutes unlabel them also.
4. PM all other people and ask them to explain how come they have the same IP as people in their groups.
5. See how it goes and think what to do.

If devs have more evidences than IPs we need to take them into consideration of course.

i 100% agree with all above

dzarmush

legendary

Activity: 1806

Merit: 1001

Quote from: schnötzel on July 11, 2014, 08:31:44 PM

Investigate again!?

edit:

"Following your logic the best number of judges is 1 Smiley 100% majority, what can be better....."

Cheesy

But with only 1 judge there´s no majority

edit2:

I´m hoping we will have 100% with 4 judges in general

What's your position, by the way? )

That's mine:
1. Unlabel all groups of 2 people without questioning. If anybody wanted to make puppets he wouldn't stop with just one and would make at least 5-10. Also there is absolutely not any chance to prove that 2 account are puppets, not family/friends/roommates.
2. Check IPs of groups of 3 people. Unlabel everybody with Tor/Corporate/Education IPs.
3. Take a closer look on groups of 4-5 people with Tor IPs. If they didn't sign up to 4-5 accounts in a raw within few minutes unlabel them also.
4. PM all other people and ask them to explain how come they have the same IP as people in their groups.
5. See how it goes and think what to do.

If devs have more evidences than IPs we need to take them into consideration of course.

dzarmush

legendary

Activity: 1806

Merit: 1001

Btw I've found NEMoon and BitEugene labeled. I can vouch for both. I got them into cryptocurrencies after I made a few bucks and saw the potential. BitEugene is my best friend. I know him since 12 or so. Over 19 years by now. NEMoon is my partner. We run photography business together since 2004. We all invested in Nxt, Qora, bought stakes in Nem and Node and many other currencies. So they're two different people not one with two accounts.

schnötzel

legendary

Activity: 1316

Merit: 1041

Bitcoin is a bit**

Investigate again!?

edit:

"Following your logic the best number of judges is 1 Smiley 100% majority, what can be better....."

Cheesy

But with only 1 judge there´s no majority

edit2:

I´m hoping we will have 100% with 4 judges in general

dzarmush

legendary

Activity: 1806

Merit: 1001

Quote from: schnötzel on July 11, 2014, 07:42:57 PM

Quote from: dzarmush on July 11, 2014, 03:17:41 PM

There should be an odd number of committee members: 3, 5, 7. Otherwise we can vote 50/50.

It´s not that simple. I say "fairness" in this case can´t be a judgement based on 67/33 % majority (That´s the case if there are 3 judges). With 5 (60/40%) and 7 (57/43%) judges it´s even worser.
With 4 judges there is a 75/25 majority. ( btw. we need 9 judges with a 7/2 result to get a tiny better 77,77% majority)

result: Fairest and realizable judgement will be with 4 judges.

Or i´m wrong?

Following your logic the best number of judges is 1

100% majority, what can be better.

What would we do if we split 50/50?

schnötzel

legendary

Activity: 1316

Merit: 1041

Bitcoin is a bit**

Quote from: dzarmush on July 11, 2014, 03:17:41 PM

There should be an odd number of committee members: 3, 5, 7. Otherwise we can vote 50/50.

It´s not that simple. I say "fairness" in this case can´t be a judgement based on 67/33 % majority (That´s the case if there are 3 judges). With 5 (60/40%) and 7 (57/43%) judges it´s even worser.
With 4 judges there is a 75/25 majority. ( btw. we need 9 judges with a 7/2 result to get a tiny better 77,77% majority)

result: Fairest and realizable judgement will be with 4 judges.

Or i´m wrong?

Prosperux

newbie

Activity: 16

Merit: 0

As I already said I haven't got a slightest idea who are these people and what I'm doing in this company.
Aladin
John holmes
PtBrennan
LexusFly
JCann83
Obarr88
Kolomoy

If we all have the same IP just check it in Tor database, 100% you'll find it there.

cupper5

newbie

Activity: 45

Merit: 0

Hi guys, just noticed on nxtl.eu that theres a problem with our stakes. Actually I still dont know how many stakes one person can claim. We missed out on NEM but were glad to see that there was a REAL competitor in NXTL. I thought that that you could pay for a partner too, similar to NEM. She is ZTP62(1067).. We have a flatmate too who is also really enthusiastic about the newstyle cryptocurrencies, she is smartbomb (1076). My member number is 1171.

I am really sorry if we broke any rules. We have been telling everybody about what we are doing and all 3 of us meet loads of people daily through work and our social life. its a real dissapointment to have our stakes taken off us but if thats the rules then so be it.

The crazy thing is that we all have a computer each but we thought it would be ok to use the same one. We didnt realise that the stakes would be scrutinized so much.

We would be grateful if some leniency was shown by you guys. We will keep our fingers crossed.

bluewhackadoo

sr. member

Activity: 406

Merit: 252

Hey guys! Puppet Master 88 (P88) here. I've been identified along with the account created by my fiance (GatorJMT). I don't think anything fancy had to be done to track us down as the IP address is probably identical. I would ask that you remove the puppet designation from both accounts, we are both active in the Crypto community (I am VERY active) and would appreciate this concession.

If you need any further proof that we both exist and have ownership of our respective accounts, let me know what that might be and I will do my best to quickly comply.

Best Regards,

-blue

timmyd

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Activity: 714

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Please see your main thread for pictures of me and stuipooi123 proving we are not puppets thanks. he lives with me hence the same ip. would appreciate not been labelled as a puppet. thanks

u5sos

member

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This thread needs countdown, or set deadline date to submit a case to the court IMO

dzarmush

legendary

Activity: 1806

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There should be an odd number of committee members: 3, 5, 7. Otherwise we can vote 50/50.

mladen00

legendary

Activity: 2124

Merit: 1013

K-ing®

Hi, my account is labeled like puppet P66.
Me, and my wife are stakeholders (labeled as P66-2accounts)

I paid stake from my btc addres, and i send money to her btc addres so that she can join to the project.
Same thing i did on NEM (first i ask UF).

((if i was a puppet i would send money from my btc address to some exchange and then send money to new btc address))

I'm active on this forum and also this thread, and she is active to.
I belive in this coin and i'm not a puppet.

please consider this.

Regards, Mladen

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