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legendary
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Proving he is Satoshi should be as simple as moving a few coins from his original account but this whole thing is getting more and more convoluted. Have you guys heard the story of this VaughnPerling guy who claims he met Wright in 2005 and that Wright introduced himself as Satoshi Nakamoto and discussed Bitcoin technology (not yet named Bitcoin) with him? That's insane lol that he would've known Satoshi's face all along and only learned much later of his real name  Roll Eyes
Here's the article:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/satoshi-saga-continues-tulip-trust-trustee-expected-to-appear-by-september-says-joseph-vaughnperling-1462467803
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Craig obviously is Satoshi. The famous retort on this forum is "sign a message and prove it," well he did just that - and still the circus continues.

You wrote this much for nothing. Your first sentence line is incorrect and most will stop there. I did.
Craig did not sign a new message. He just did something anybody could do. what he did was a cheap scam.

You're at liberty to express your opinions. We all are.

Craig signed a brand new message, on camera. The BBC edited this out of their presentation because:

1. the whole world would have been able to verify it by using the code generated by the signed message

2. this would not bring cohesion to the image they'd like to portray of Craig White

Everyone can argue the fact until they're blue in the face.

People want to be pretend forensics "experts" but didn't even know who Craig White was until a few months ago because "they heard it in the media." So rest assured, there is an entire world of information that outsiders are not privy to as it pertains to the genesis of bitcoin

Studying prehistoric transactions on the blockchain will not produce any new information whatsoever

We do not have all the facts, and never will

The only individual capable of presenting us with unknown truths concerning Bitcion is now being made the target of media assasination, and having his credibility destroyed.

The electric car was invented more than 100 years ago, yet this technology has only just been released for public use. Systems to harness wireless electricity were created more than a 100 years ago, yet people are still paying ridiculous prices to remain "on the grid." Technology that allows cars to be powered by water has existed since the 70's, yet here we are lining up like minions at the gas station.

Alls i'm saying is there are powers that have been controlling society for centuries

Families that can trace their linage, unbroken, all the way back to the days of the pharaohs are still in power till this day.

Reality is a construct of human imagination, yet we are all subject to THEIR reality. This is not checkers, or chess. This is quantum physics and these people have mastered this game of projecting which ever reality they choose, and having the masses adjust to it.

Bitcoin came from the top down, not the bottom up. All major changes in society emerge from the top down. The internet, electricity and so on.

Craig will be rooted out of the picture eventually, like all true innovators are. Edison stole most of Nikolai Tesla's work, and because he was bankrolled by the system he is hailed as a hero. Nikolai Tesla died poor and had all his inventions smashed and hidden from the masses.

So whilst Craig is still alive, we should all respect him for what he has done. He is the true rebel that most people here can only WISH they were

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Satoshi is not a basement dwelling kid, for sure, unless he is one that somehow managed to learn the coding skills of a wiser gentleman in between school classes  Grin

The profile of the Bitcoin community according to the 2013 study is 31 year old male libertarian.

So, extrapolating from that he is highly likely male and he did show some libertarian streaks.

He is either a digital native-type programmer which would place him in that range, 30-36 or so. He seemed to post freely so he had free time, but he was also uninterested in money so he likely did work (Google, IBM or so).

He was a skilled cryptographer though as well and liked his cypherpunk. This was *niche* and tended to involve people a bit older so I would suspect he is a 40-50 year old male cryptographer with good job security.

He was skilled at disappearing and disliked the limelight so Wright does not fit the bill.

If we met Satoshi he would be an unassuming old white hat playing around on github.
He's not a kid, he's 28. He has free time because he's a NEET.
legendary
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Mr Wright is a con man, and with this incident has only further tarnished his reputation.
legendary
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Satoshi is not a basement dwelling kid, for sure, unless he is one that somehow managed to learn the coding skills of a wiser gentleman in between school classes  Grin

The profile of the Bitcoin community according to the 2013 study is 31 year old male libertarian.

So, extrapolating from that he is highly likely male and he did show some libertarian streaks.

He is either a digital native-type programmer which would place him in that range, 30-36 or so. He seemed to post freely so he had free time, but he was also uninterested in money so he likely did work (Google, IBM or so).

He was a skilled cryptographer though as well and liked his cypherpunk. This was *niche* and tended to involve people a bit older so I would suspect he is a 40-50 year old male cryptographer with good job security.

He was skilled at disappearing and disliked the limelight so Wright does not fit the bill.

If we met Satoshi he would be an unassuming old white hat playing around on github.
legendary
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Craig obviously is Satoshi. The famous retort on this forum is "sign a message and prove it," well he did just that - and still the circus continues.

You wrote this much for nothing. Your first sentence line is incorrect and most will stop there. I did.
Craig did not sign a new message. He just did something anybody could do. what he did was a cheap scam.
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Craig obviously is Satoshi. The famous retort on this forum is "sign a message and prove it," well he did just that - and still the circus continues.

It's obvious that Craig was a mere piece on the chess board.

It's akin to some talented developer from the Ukraine that responds to an ad on UpWork to become the lead developer for a $1Million+ project. Craig created something on the behalf of a powerful group of people, who employed him to bring their ideas to fruition.

It was never the intention of this group of individuals to reveal their identity, hence the Satoshi Nakamoto pseudonym - which is actually an anagram for "So a Man Took A Shit." (Pump and dump anyone?)

Craig being disruptive by nature comes out and reveals that he is the creator of bitcoin (oh no, what else will he reveal? why doesn't he want to take credit and receive praise?)....... then this character assassination plot is launched against him to diminish his credibility. I mean this guy actually created bitcoin... so if anyone could create a rival to this system it would be Craig White, with the support of a plethora of financial backers.

But, no credibility = no support, societal shunning etc - think middle easterners, michael jackson, muammar gaddafi. Assasinate the character first, and then get rid of them entirely

..... So now anytime Craig White is mentioned in the media, the agenda will be to tarnish his credibility and paint him as incompetent, and incapable. The first time the media introduced us to Craig he was being dragged out of his home in handcuffs - psychologically, 90% of those that saw those images now subliminally associate Craig White with criminalism, instead of innovation. We never saw Steve Jobs home being raided.

To me it doesn't matter who created bitcoin. I traded penny stocks for years without caring to know who the CEO of any of those companies were

But I will not engage in this agenda to tarnish another human being

Craig white may have alot of other interesting information to reveal, but the media has now started their tirade to paint this man as a liar. So whatever he reveals next will be laughed off, and dismissed. I wont be surprised if the guy turns up dead due to suicide via two gunshots to the head

We all should think

We call ourselves anarchists and libertarians etc etc, yet here everyone is.... Still being lead and controlled by the hidden hand



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Yes Craig Wright is the “right guy” but I'm not sure he is “the guy”
I'm hopping the real creator will never reveal himself and stay on anonymous and mystery
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Satoshi has became a god to this community. No mortal man will live up to our expectations anyways.
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Good point. Yes I would like she looked like Cameron but i still think he's male.  Sad

Season 3 was scheduled for this summer wasn't it ?  Smiley
so you think satoshi nakamoto is a person and can create bitcoin without any other people's help? few back years when bitcoin still developed by him is a hard years for satoshi,but i believe satoshi nakamoto is a groups

I should write male or group of men that would be what i meant at that moment, but unfortunately i was misguided by picture from Halt and Catch Fire TV series.  Grin
legendary
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I don't know what Satoshi should be like to be honest.
He gave us this great invention. That' all what counts imo and I thank him for that.But if he would come back now he wouldn't have any power.The network is evolving without him since 2011. That's a long time and many other devs have showed their potential and talent.
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Concerning the satoshi account here, would be plausible if for some reason he doesn't have the credentials anymore and the email is abandoned - happened to me too. If that was the case there is still room to prove that he owned the account by providing information about pms, previously used emails and passwords eventually.

Then the parts that have no explanation that would make sense:

Theres no reason to not make the few clicks to verify the wallet/transaction - srsly - whats harder than that.

Of course in the interview he said that he was "a big part of it", well - i may missed the point where he said that hes the mastermind.


Anyways, for most early adopters it was an interesting time with lots of stories to tell - the very least to explain would've been how the dev process and the life at this time was shaped and evolved. If he cant come up with a plausible story - and the peers involved as well it would debunk or confirm a lot. And yeah, the posting daytime activity on the satoshi account here would need to fit into that. Ahh yeah, in old fashion i wouldve expected to just make an ANN thread here on the forum or maybe a git repo / pastebin - lol - providing the existing evidence and the start the verification process by bundling all the evidence in that thread - Including the story behind.

And guys, please abandon the look from any productive conversation - lots time went by and with such a background it could easily happen to become a very different person in a short time.
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but we should all agree that he has the correct look

I don't care about the look. Really. Today it's normal to look .. well.. normal.
But I expect from Satoshi at least 2 things:

1. To be able to simply and clearly prove his identity.
A person that invented (or took part a great % on inventing) and programmed Bitcoin, even in its early stage, would be able to do all this without too much bla-bla (and make sure he did his homework before embarrassing himself - and some big BTC related names - on TV).

2. To not look like an ordinary scammer, to not be part of odd contradictions like
"this guy has 1 mil BTC but he has bankruptcy issues"
or
"this guy has 1 mil BTC, but he bought BTC at MtGox (at its peak)"
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Satoshi is obviously a 28 year old Japanese NEET living in his parents' basement.

His posting activity over time shows he never posted between 7 and 8 in the morning, or between 10 and 11 in the morning. That fits the profile of someone living in his mom's basement. Someone forced him to do something like have a wash in the bathroom that stopped him posting at those times in the morning. He posts straight through the night, even at 6 in the morning, but after 7 the posts stop.

Most workers wouldn't post straight through the night until 6 in the morning. If they did it at weekends their sleep patterns would get too disrupted to get up for work on Monday morning.

I bet he was living in his moms basement when he invented Bitcoin.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/satoshi-3



Craig Wright doesn't live in his mom's basement, so doesn't fit Satoshi's psychological profile.
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Seriously, do you guys really not know who Satoshi is?

Like I said, he's a 28 year old NEET living in Akibahara, Tokyo. The reason he created bitcoin was because he wanted to become a mythical being and the greatest internet troll.

Craig Wright was hired by him to do all this, just because he wanted to see some drama. The previous times when satoshi was supposedly "hacked" on bitcointalk was really just Satoshi trolling people.

Then why the real satoshi didnt expose himself and keeping his identity unknown? While there are people want to stole his works and not credited him as a owner, real satoshi must reavel himself now cause someone will stole his successfull work.

Then Craig will say, " that's why I'm exposing myself and telling you people that I am Satoshi Nakamoto."



No you dont' get it. These are all events satoshi himself designed to troll people.

But deep inside the true satoshi nakamoto is laughing on this happenings they planned Tongue
Exactly, I'm glad someone gets it Cheesy
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I hate feminism as much as the next guy, but Amph, that's exactly what you call sexist ._.

How can you say that woman can't invent great things?

Once I was talking to a girl in University who apparently thought that whenever something is wrong, it's always the man's fault. Without men, there would be nothing wrong in the world, and even if women committed crimes, that's because men made them do it.

I thought that was about the stupidest thing I'd ever hear, but this is a good match.
legendary
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To me, it doesn't matter who the real Satoshi Nakamoto ends up to be. Also I don't think having a degree in Computer Science or wearing business suits fit the bill for the 'perfect' Satoshi because looks most often than not can be deceiving and this is a pretty common occurrence in the Bitcoin scene. Are we sure that Satoshi is male?  Cheesy


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Would you not like it if Satoshi looked like this?  By the way this is taken from the AMC TV series 'Halt and catch fire' it's a pretty good show about developing the first computers you should check it out.

satoshi can't be a woman ever, it's not even about sexism, woman never inveted something so great like what satoshi did
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Seriously, do you guys really not know who Satoshi is?

Like I said, he's a 28 year old NEET living in Akibahara, Tokyo. The reason he created bitcoin was because he wanted to become a mythical being and the greatest internet troll.

Craig Wright was hired by him to do all this, just because he wanted to see some drama. The previous times when satoshi was supposedly "hacked" on bitcointalk was really just Satoshi trolling people.

Then why the real satoshi didnt expose himself and keeping his identity unknown? While there are people want to stole his works and not credited him as a owner, real satoshi must reavel himself now cause someone will stole his successfull work.

Then Craig will say, " that's why I'm exposing myself and telling you people that I am Satoshi Nakamoto."



No you dont' get it. These are all events satoshi himself designed to troll people.

But deep inside the true satoshi nakamoto is laughing on this happenings they planned Tongue
sr. member
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Seriously, do you guys really not know who Satoshi is?

Like I said, he's a 28 year old NEET living in Akibahara, Tokyo. The reason he created bitcoin was because he wanted to become a mythical being and the greatest internet troll.

Craig Wright was hired by him to do all this, just because he wanted to see some drama. The previous times when satoshi was supposedly "hacked" on bitcointalk was really just Satoshi trolling people.

Then why the real satoshi didnt expose himself and keeping his identity unknown? While there are people want to stole his works and not credited him as a owner, real satoshi must reavel himself now cause someone will stole his successfull work.

No you dont' get it. These are all events satoshi himself designed to troll people.
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Seriously, do you guys really not know who Satoshi is?

Like I said, he's a 28 year old NEET living in Akibahara, Tokyo. The reason he created bitcoin was because he wanted to become a mythical being and the greatest internet troll.

Craig Wright was hired by him to do all this, just because he wanted to see some drama. The previous times when satoshi was supposedly "hacked" on bitcointalk was really just Satoshi trolling people.

Then why the real satoshi didnt expose himself and keeping his identity unknown? While there are people want to stole his works and not credited him as a owner, real satoshi must reavel himself now cause someone will stole his successfull work.
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