Topic: Now tell me if you still believe on Elon Musk. - page 8. (Read 1274 times)

There is a lot of crypto enthusiast that are followers of Elon Musk the indicator and manipulator. There are so many people saying that Elon Musk is an Indicator and manipulator which just like his tweets on Dogecoin which we all know that the primary reason for the hype of this coin is due to the tweets of Elon Musk in which many says that the price of this coin always depends on the tweet of Elon. So my thoughts about the Tesla will stop accepting bitcoin in their transactions is because they just want to manipulate the market in which it makes bearmarket.

I've also mentioned before that someone should make comparisons between bank transfers and BTC mining prior to jumping to conclusions about Bitcoin being unsustainable. And it's great that research on this topic has been done and is already published. However, it's worth noting that bank transfers also cover way more people that Bitcoin goes, so taking this into account, Bitcoin probably is worse for the environment. What surprised me is gold because gold doesn't function as money anymore and isn't really needed for anything significant, and yet it stands at almost the same level as the banking industry.
And I do believe that Musk tries to consider the environment here, even though his actions aren't fully justified.

Crypto was already taken seriously, we would not reach $2 trillion marketcap if people are not serious.
The thing is, crypto is still volatile and easy to manipulate, that has been its norms and newbies are usually the one who will pay for the price.

With what is happening now, bitcoin nearly dump $29k... I'm sure newbies are already having a problem now because they are pancking.

So many thoughts right now.  Frankly, I'm tired of the narrative that this is just he way it is and it's all part of the deal.  At some point, this has to stop or crypto will never be taken seriously.

Elon is a piece of shit. 

This market dump still continues, how big the effect of Elon Musk anti bitcoin announcement?

I believe the price will dump but not this fast, we are just trading at 50k this week and now we are already down trading at $30k+...
I wonder if we will see more dip from now, this is a mess, people are panicking and we might see an early bear market.

At first when he start accepting Bitcoin payments was he not aware of energy consumption and for his knowledge most of the miners are using renewable sources of energy for Bitcoin mining instead of fossil fuels and he is just criticizing to spread FUD.I was not following his tweets from tbe start but no doubt was happy when prices start to rise.He is business person and his only motive is profit growth.Tesla made huge profits by holding $1.5 worth of bitcoins which they have not made in 10 years by selling cars.Musk is just playing with Market emotions and knows his intentions but we all need to make investment at this time to reverse his actions which will eventually boost btc prices above $40k soon.So just realise the importance of Bitcoin rather than someone else making profits out of your pockets on social media.

If Elon Musk is really a market manipulator, that means that he can move the market in any direction. So far I see only options how he can do situation even worse. I just can imagine how Elon could turn Bitcoin price into opposite direction. Buy saying that Tesla changed their mind and continues to accept Bitcoin - but that will only make him look like a clown. Make more positive tweets about Bitcoin ? I dont think that people trust him anymore that much.

It seem's like they are just playing around with crypto I never really believe in Elon's tweet.
I know that he could get the price move on however he wants and it is a proof of it.
I never trust his crypto picks specially when he gives too much attention to a meme coin that has been around for a long time and doesn't have any improvement at all before he tweets about it,
From the moment he pick it up I already have doubts about him as a crypto investor/TA or anything related with crypto.

Elon Musk is a market manipulator and his claims all make sense with his reasoning. His Bitcoin claims are in his calculation. He is a businessman, a trader and he knows how to make money from the holes of the market. Trust the cash flow and the ignorance of the community don't believe what Elon Musk says.

I won't believe a clown who will get his karma one day.

But the masses will still believe him and see him like their savior. I am shocked people can be so dumb. Whatever, it's their loss not mine. I will HODL even if BTC goes down to $10K.

I think we are going to have this discussion forever! I have started to feel that forum has turned into Elon Musk's personal space to talk about it. 
Well, again and again, lets not forget his billions of dollars richer than us and he can manipulate the market always. He won't be afraid of the government or SEC since they know Biden and Elon's relationship is far different that what see.
Over the time his wealth is going to rise, so he will gain more control of the market. Unless and until SEC really interfere his going to manipulate it.

His reason for removing bitcoin as a mode of payment is clearly unbelievable and now a research was already carried out with regards to the fossil fuel consumption, it just made it more vivid that he is just tricking people and taking advantage of their ignorance. There's no reason to believe in that guy anymore regardless of how much money he has and how much influence he can make. Bitcoin is suffering at the moment but it will surely come back and recover soon so let us stop talking about Elon Musk already and start believing in bitcoin up until it regains it good price and obtain new all time highs once again.

Elon Musk lost his 2nd position on the richest people on earth.
Short positions against Tesla are the Highest at this moment.
Michael Burry alone has 534$ million short positions against Tesla.
Tesla shares fell more than 25% in a month's span.

Who's having more bad news..? Crypto community or Elon Musk..?

In a 13th May twitter from Jackson Palmer the co founder of Dogecoin said that "Elon Musk is and always will be a self-absorbed grifter" and after saying that he said I will remove this twitter in 1 min and go back to my quiet life.This shows why we should never believe Elon Musk and his deeds.

Source of the twitter is from here :  https://inbitcoinwetrust.quora.com/?__ni__=0&__nsrc__=4&__snid3__=21405070198&__tiids__=28269314

I won't follow. I will Unfollow his tweet right now. Who he is? I don't know why people still following his statement. he just comes to a year for buying the hype. I won't care if he wants to mine doge in the mars together with Alien.

I will follow his back after Tesla uses water fuel. if still use electricity it's the same as he said the fossil, because electric still uses gasoline for the generator.

Musk is a fraud. He takes credit for other people's achievements. He is not technically competent. He is not self made. He came from extreme wealth.

I can feel it he is going to crash and burn within 5 years. From world's richest man on paper to either in jail or in debt. That's just how it's gonna go for Musk. We don't want him anywhere near our beloved BTC.


When it comes to Tesla he wasn't a founder. He didn't contribute to the project. He also defrauded the shareholders to the tune of over 5 Billions via Solar City. He bought solar city bonds and then faked a new product for solar city to sell it to Tesla. Meaning when Tesla acquired solar city it also acquired a ton of debt, some of it to Elon Musk himself.

Elon Musk doesn't understand physics. If he did his proposals would make a lot more sense. Also the route he is taking with SpaceX means that every launch with humans on it is a spin of the dice. By my reckoning there is a 5% chance everyone on board the rocket dies. Elon Musk is a psychopath that only cares about making more money.


If he did care about the environment he wouldn't even propose point to point rocket transport for humans. The idea itself isn't viable because of the actual physics involved. Those ballistic trajectories require too much fuel. Fuel which will make the ticket price cost prohibitive.

However what remains is the most environmentally destructive means of transport ever proposed. You'd be putting out more CO2 than the average american in a year in just a flight or two.

We shouldn't keep having rocket failures. each of those rockets blowing up represents an immense amount of emissions for nothing. Take the time the whole facebook satellite blue up on the SpaceX rocket. Curiously enough this case might have been sabotage since Elon was doing the same thing a year later after Facebook was set back years due to the rocket explosion.


And Elon Musk is dangerous to his customers. His proposed neural-link would be installed in the human skull in a way that weakens it. The needles according to demonstrations clearly puncture blood vessels in the brain. The overnight charging may cause a fire, in your brain. Your skull might be susceptible to breaking a lot more easily.

And his claims that this will cure everything from blindness to paralysis are bogus.

Here is a very good video series on the subject of Elon Musk's neuralink. In fact this channel, along with thudnerf00t are excellent for debunking Elon Musk.
If you follow the facts these two channels are the best on YouTube when it comes to debunking nonsense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvmA_gQ-95c

as for Thunderf00t just look him up. His real name is Phil Mason and he is a PHD chemist and a very successful scientist with many good papers under his name. His unique way of thinking has lead him to many new fascinating scientific discoveries.

It is a very old news and price was manipulated for a while.

The fact is not only bank system but also many other industries consume more energy than Bitcoin mining. I agree that it is better if Bitcoin mining farms have an adaptation and hybrid energy with more weights from renewable resources. Cost and benefit will be matter as mining farms will have to spend capital for infrastructures of renewable energy production equipment. They will have to consider about maintenance cost, lifespan of those equipment. Usable time every day and in different seasons.

Generally, it is not actually a bad idea.

• Debunking the "Bitcoin is an environmental disaster" argument.

Why not? You can follow his tweets but think differently than the crowd.

Well, his tweets are reliable (as a signal for me to sell), not credible. To be honest, I only follow him because every time he tweets anything regarding cryptocurrency, he pumps Bitcoin. Well, he's like my signal to sell lol. Now he's becoming my signal to buy.

It is only interesting at first when he pumped Doge coin last January 2021 but right now, I'm done with him.

He's just playing with the market and our emotion by just thinking about himself.

I know that we're just a small investor compared to him but he should think about other people because we are working our asses off just to earn money.

It's more likely about FUD, first of all, I haven't believed him since then, yeah he is one of the richest man in the world, but the fact that he is not doing well for the bitcoin community then he wouldn't deserve our respect. He is really manipulating the market and keep making his Dogecoin to the moon, maybe sooner or late, we will have the news about "TESLA is now accepting Dogecoin as a means of payment". He is really a businessman and he will do things that will benefit him even crashing the market, sadly, there are still so many people keeps on believing that man because of whoi he is.