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Topic: Now that usb sticks are being sold by sidehack here is a new usb hub thread. - page 14. (Read 47313 times)

legendary
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I wanted 2.0 because I was reading one of sidehack posts sayinng 2.0 was the only way to go since there was no advantage to anything else.   Or did I not get the gist of his post...
No, you got it right. The most common USB3.0 ports and hubs can provide a little more current than 2.0 allows but folks have had issues running sticks directly from 3.0 hubs. Since we don't care about the higher speeds 3.0 can run that leaves main requirement as...

The need to simply use a hub that will supply more 5vdc power such as ones rated for 2.1A and higher charging. Look for BC2.1 as  I recall. They are normally used to power tablets/phablets and the better ones will happily provide more than just 2.1A -- but -- look at how many ports and which ports it can feed that power to at the same time.
newbie
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I wanted 2.0 because I was reading one of sidehack posts sayinng 2.0 was the only way to go since there was no advantage to anything else.   Or did I not get the gist of his post...



Got this coming Friday...

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GCQQE42/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It did it again and it is my USB controller being a poop head.  Thanks for the  info and help.
Downside is those are only 2.0 so you can't do real high ocs with them. That's why I opt for some of the superbpag hubs even though they're not the most durable in the world, I clock my compacs to 300 easily with them.
legendary
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Got this coming Friday...

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GCQQE42/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It did it again and it is my USB controller being a poop head.  Thanks for the  info and help.
Downside is those are only 2.0 so you can't do real high ocs with them. That's why I opt for some of the superbpag hubs even though they're not the most durable in the world, I clock my compacs to 300 easily with them.
newbie
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Got this coming Friday...

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GCQQE42/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It did it again and it is my USB controller being a poop head.  Thanks for the  info and help.
newbie
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ahhh...thank you...My 2pac is causing cgminer to fail. It gets the message that GSD 0 has failed disabling...It was working great yesterday. Might this be a hub issue although it works fine with the nano fuiry and it has worked with the 2pac in the past.
legendary
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newbie
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Yikes! I was going to spend 100 bucks...those look really really good but cant do 200 right now. Any others around 100 or so you might recommend?

Also thank you for answering so fast.


ATM I have only one 2-pac and a Nano fury. I have 3 more 2-pacs coming. My question is ...I am wanting a hub that will run all 5 at the same time. Any suggestions?

looks like these two


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/review-of-new-stud-hub-from-klintay-1848964

I reviewed this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eyeboot-19-Port-40A-USB-3-0-Hub-110-240V-2-amps-per-port-/351720554389?


some one put info in the review about this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KPOEX9O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8914
'The right to privacy matters'
ATM I have only one 2-pac and a Nano fury. I have 3 more 2-pacs coming. My question is ...I am wanting a hub that will run all 5 at the same time. Any suggestions?

looks like these two


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/review-of-new-stud-hub-from-klintay-1848964

I reviewed this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eyeboot-19-Port-40A-USB-3-0-Hub-110-240V-2-amps-per-port-/351720554389?


some one put info in the review about this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KPOEX9O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?
newbie
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ATM I have only one 2-pac and a Nano fury. I have 3 more 2-pacs coming. My question is ...I am wanting a hub that will run all 5 at the same time. Any suggestions?
member
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if you run them for a year, that would do nothing lol and spend  very little wattage.  I have 4 with my 20 port USB 3.0 with raspberry pi 3.0, pulling about 78watts.  that includes 2 usb fans.


I have links of the pictures on the subject of :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1848964.20
newbie
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Hi All,

I would like to build similar to this setup:

https://s21.postimg.org/fdfl4forb/miner1.jpg
Picture not mine. Thanks to owner

I will be using the items below:
* superbpag USB 3.0 70 watt hub - I saw on this thread
* 2pcs sidehacks 2pac usb stick
* artic fan
* raspberry pi 3

I would like to know if this will suffice to run for at least a year. Im doing this to experience only (not to ROI)

Also can I also attach the display, just like on the picture?

Thanks in advance.
newbie
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I killed one with 3 futurebits.

and killed another with 4 du1's.

My "controller" was reporting power surging backwards along the usb 3 line into the computer. so I think it has a design flaw.

Great hub until the bed started smelling funny.

I guess in the defense of superbpag they might not be made to run in a 90-105F ambient room.
That's probably the issue- they dont have the best cooling features with just a copper fin and with so much power running through them something might've malfunctioned in the heat.

What is the best solution here? or any other hub suggestion for raspberry pi? Thanks
newbie
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I don't have good pictures yet. I'm still building it lol. Basically I "upgrade" the usb cable and then solder all 5 18ga wires from a "group" of miners to a single 16ga wire that i then run to the power supply. No distributions blocks just lots of solder and tape Smiley


Ratrod modding. I love it!
newbie
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yep it goes thinner as it gets to the female end. the usb cables i use are 28awg data and 24 awg power.
basic wire thickness from the power supply is ... meanwell  -> 16awg -> 18awg -> 24awg

Where do you do the split from 16awg to 18awg? I didn't see a distribution block in your pictures, is there one just off screen somewhere?

I don't have good pictures yet. I'm still building it lol. Basically I "upgrade" the usb cable and then solder all 5 18ga wires from a "group" of miners to a single 16ga wire that i then run to the power supply. No distributions blocks just lots of solder and tape Smiley

if you look at it from the top you can see the clump of wire at the bend were 2 groups of miners come together that bundle of tape is where i soldered the wires.
https://i.imgur.com/32tVwBP.jpg
newbie
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yep it goes thinner as it gets to the female end. the usb cables i use are 28awg data and 24 awg power.
basic wire thickness from the power supply is ... meanwell  -> 16awg -> 18awg -> 24awg

Where do you do the split from 16awg to 18awg? I didn't see a distribution block in your pictures, is there one just off screen somewhere?
newbie
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Thanks!

So now I just "upgrade" usb cables by cutting the power from the hub side, solder in 18awg wire powered from the meanwell.
and stick em in a plastic holder

So for the last few inches/cm before terminating in the female plug you are running the thinner wire? What's the max amperage you have pushed through the connectors?

yep it goes thinner as it gets to the female end. the usb cables i use are 28awg data and 24 awg power.
basic wire thickness from the power supply is ... meanwell  -> 16awg -> 18awg -> 24awg
 I have put 1.51v @ 300mhz which is about 2.8ish amps. But I am having stability issues so I don't know what i am going to run it at.

newbie
Activity: 26
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Thanks!

So now I just "upgrade" usb cables by cutting the power from the hub side, solder in 18awg wire powered from the meanwell.
and stick em in a plastic holder

So for the last few inches/cm before terminating in the female plug you are running the thinner wire? What's the max amperage you have pushed through the connectors?
newbie
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Going along with hurricandave's suggestion of custom usb cables. I'm working on version 2 now, going straight to the jack this time. I hope I can cut down the power usage a little.

https://i.imgur.com/yX0uaBf.jpg

So you're running the beefy (24ga?) wires from power supply to the two outer posts on the USB connector and then the two inner data wires to the USB hub? Do the male plugs that go to the USB hub only have data +/- connected, do are you doing something with the 5v from that bus, too?

Would you mind providing a closer image of where the female ports connect to the wood supports?

I like this idea and may "borrow" it if that's okay with you...

Those are 18ga power wires on the outside and 28ga data inside.
I don't make them anymore. I make "upgraded" usb cables now.
They were too difficult to make and assemble and I didn't trust them.
I tested 10x patched cables against 10x homemade ends they didn't make much difference.
So now I just "upgrade" usb cables by cutting the power from the hub side, solder in 18awg wire powered from the meanwell.
and stick em in a plastic holder

https://i.imgur.com/2MCQ7VM.jpg

I made a post in the "I did it" thread with more info. The only real difference is I now cut the both power wires coming from the hub.


newbie
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Going along with hurricandave's suggestion of custom usb cables. I'm working on version 2 now, going straight to the jack this time. I hope I can cut down the power usage a little.

https://i.imgur.com/yX0uaBf.jpg

So you're running the beefy (24ga?) wires from power supply to the two outer posts on the USB connector and then the two inner data wires to the USB hub? Do the male plugs that go to the USB hub only have data +/- connected, do are you doing something with the 5v from that bus, too?

Would you mind providing a closer image of where the female ports connect to the wood supports?

I like this idea and may "borrow" it if that's okay with you...
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