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Yikes, what is happening?  Poor NUD.  I was so excited to visit the thread and see what impact being added to a legitimate exchange would have.

Just trying to do something different.  New algo, new method of anonymity, many interesting ideas.

And what are you repaid with?  Pages upon pages of whining and complaining and baseless FUD and now a clone coin already?  Well, they do say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Just for the record, I am holding my hefty stack of NUD, have some buy orders in the 4000-ish satoshi range on bittrex, but if the dev team decides to give this "community" the finger and say go fuck yourself, develop your own god damn coin, I wouldn't blame you.

As stated before, if there is enough interest in the community, I would be available to contribute towards a coin which works in favour of the community still left. I would do so no matter if the "dev" decides to abandon his release or not. Using the already existing blockchain(s). After all, we have almost everything needed: a network with nodes, helpful people on the forum, a source code repository, and ideas to move forward. After all, this is a cryptocurrency, and not a centralized service like PayPal. So even if the "dev" decides to act like a prima donna just because not everybody likes to lick his boots, and provides the community with yet another "fuck yourself", cryptography protects our investments.

To be clear: Some people like to play down my comments, stating that I would not like the "dev". I do not even know the "dev". I like some things he did. I don't like other things he did. I'm just doing my best to be objective in presence of controversial decisions I see.

To be more clear: I think creating a clonecoin is a stupid idea. Those who read the earlier posts know that I even found the "dev" creating a clone blockchain to be a stupid idea. But we don't need a third blockchain on the same codebase. So I would hope that those thinking about creating a clonecoin would rather join forces with a possible community effort we may create. By working together, we have a much higher chance of being competitive.
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who is so stupid to sell their coins this low?  Cheesy

when i come back from holiday i will see if i can covert the hash to python so we can implement it into pool software and a external miner
NUD does feel a bit like the early days of XMR, largely ignored but with a small group following it's every development. 

That's totally the same feeling I get. It is as if NUD is something people can't really be bothered grasping ... yet
It was exactly the same with BCN and XMR, a very peripheral activity, until ...
I expect the price to at least tenfold.

Now all we need - as someone so delicately put it - is a new "sophisticated logo".
Dev, it is time to divert a little bit of your technical efforts into marketing efforts Smiley
sr. member
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who is so stupid to sell their coins this low?  Cheesy

when i come back from holiday i will see if i can covert the hash to python so we can implement it into pool software and a external miner

Yes, I think this is what NUD is really lacking to gain attention right now.  It is tough to hit a block unless you are running powerful cloud mining instances, and I shut mine off long ago.  I am not even sure it is profitable to cloud mine at these prices.  Fact is most of the alt "community" are miners in some shape or form.  People seem to be interested in NUD, they come in, mine for 2 days, get frustrated because they get nothing, and give up.

Pools will increase awareness, grow the community, donations will increase and our devs can afford to spend more time developing the coin.

NUD does feel a bit like the early days of XMR, largely ignored but with a small group following it's every development.  I know I kept looking at that Monero thread thinking "It's interesting and new, but I don't feel like figuring out anything else new right now" and kept putting looking into it on the back burner.  If NUD follows a similar path, I'd hate to not be there from the beginning!
sr. member
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who is so stupid to sell their coins this low?  Cheesy

when i come back from holiday i will see if i can covert the hash to python so we can implement it into pool software and a external miner
sr. member
Activity: 350
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thanks,my fault.
better mining,better improving.
bigger market.

will build a propaganda team,hire some genius to devteam ,work for anon feature,etc.
guys,look at xc,it use the drk algo.

will create 100+ times trade volume on bittrex.

you know,it is easy to be listed on bittrex.
volume=reputation,and will attract many talent people join us.such as blackcoin.

If you coulda you woulda. You are robbing the dev of his original innovation trying to profit off his hard work by pumping your own coin. GTFO retard.
newbie
Activity: 38
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guys,welcome to mine New Universal Uuro!!

will be launch in 24 hours!!! zero premine,more active community,will be added to bittrex soon.then minpal,crytsy!!

there are already 3 small exchanges promised to add nue!!!and the logo is more wonderful!!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nue-699443

 Smiley


Fuck off with your scamcoin you chink

no scam,zero pemine,it is fair! more active dev team.will bring huge volume on bittrex!!

nue will do everything better than nud!!

Better? Why?
It's named : New Universal Uuro.
Abbreviation : NUE?
Is this right or childish failure?
Should this be : New Universal Euro?
What a bullshit name, there's is only one NUE, the Hfl. (not efl) :--))
sr. member
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guys,nue will soon open a mine pool after the launch.you could mine nue in a transparent eviroment!let more and more miners could mine your favorate nue,it is our responsibility.


Nobody wants your "transparent" unreadable communist copy clone.
Please go play with your qq friends and dont come here to spam garbage.
sr. member
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Yikes, what is happening?  Poor NUD.  I was so excited to visit the thread and see what impact being added to a legitimate exchange would have.

Just trying to do something different.  New algo, new method of anonymity, many interesting ideas.

And what are you repaid with?  Pages upon pages of whining and complaining and baseless FUD and now a clone coin already?  Well, they do say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Just for the record, I am holding my hefty stack of NUD, have some buy orders in the 4000-ish satoshi range on bittrex, but if the dev team decides to give this "community" the finger and say go fuck yourself, develop your own god damn coin, I wouldn't blame you.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
guys,welcome to mine New Universal Uuro!!

will be launch in 24 hours!!! zero premine,more active community,will be added to bittrex soon.then minpal,crytsy!!

there are already 3 small exchanges promised to add nue!!!and the logo is more wonderful!!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nue-699443

 Smiley


Fuck off with your scamcoin you chink

no scam,zero pemine,it is fair! more active dev team.will bring huge volume on bittrex!!

nue will do everything better than nud!!

Everything except original innovation, nobody gives two shits about a better logo and a bigger pump with more exchanges cashing in on your scamcoin.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1000
I have not mined since the initial day of release.

Just tried to update wallet to version 0.0.0.4 When I run the wallet-qt I get "Incorrect or no genesis block found. Wrong datatdir for network?"

I downloaded from NUD site from OP.

Try removing your old wallet completely and doing it again.  Make sure you keep a backup of your wallet.dat. 

Thank you
sr. member
Activity: 826
Merit: 263

dev,somebody said you are Satoshi Nakamoto's student.

 Cheesy We all are!


maybe our dev is Satoshi Nakamoto.

Fromm the website:

Who created NUD:

Maxtoshi Tokpotato and his brilliant team of engineers.
full member
Activity: 236
Merit: 100
I would like to make the NUD community aware of the convenience branch of the oldest known NUD git repository: https://github.com/nudnud/nud-unofficial/tree/convenience.

First patch: Making sure that addresses always begin with "N".

Motivation: In more professional altcoins, different starting characters usually mean different address types. So, having sometimes "M" and sometimes "N" for NUD addresses seems confusing.

Please note that unlike the code released by the user NUD, the convenience branch is developed carefully, making sure that users don't run into surprises like an invalidated genesis block (which can happen when running code advertised by NUD). So, as long as the master branch (based on NUD's releases) remains stable, the convenience branch is currently fully compatible.

Lol, so what is this? a takeover?

What do you mean by that?

You know full well what I mean by that

Have you seen how many people contribute to Bitcoin? All takeovers? I guess you may want to sit down and read a bit in order to grasp the basics of open source software and cryptocurrencies...

Yup, nope, I've been a developer for 35 years, 28 of them professionally.  I at least know the basics kid.

I think that probably qualifies for most useless wallet update ever.

As you might have read (or not...), the branch was named "convenience", not "extremely useful". But let's talk again in a few weeks. I wouldn't be surprised if I see this fix (or future fixes) in some release on nud.fi...

I've been here since launch and read every single message, yours included, thanks.  My point was that you fixed something that didn't need fixing for the sake of posting a snidey comment, not because of a desire to contribute.  You've already made your feelings to the dev clear.  If you want to contribute something meaningful, make an external miner.

But let's be fair. Can you point me to the last fix you contributed, so I can evaluate its usefulness?
yup, you got me, i haven't and i won't.  Why? because I work 60+ hours a week running a business.  I would love to get involved in coin development, unfortunately i simply don't have the time.  That doesn't preclude me from commenting on the efficacy or otherwise of your "fix" though, particularly since you're so critical of the devs efforts, although you're perfectly at liberty to argue it does. I just won't listen.

Incidentally, what is a "professional altcoin"?

In my opinion, altcoin professionalism can be seen if there are some maintenance skills there, so people can afford to adopt the altcoin in their services without having to fear hardforks and blockchain restarts every week or two. And in order to achieve this, a healthy dev community is necessary. Not long ago, there was only one source for NUD fixes, and they were often controversial because they were rather disruptive (don't want to roll it all up again, read it up on the early pages of the thread). But people hardly had a choice. When people have a choice, they can decide themselves which updates create problems for them and which do not.
A bit of pendantry on my part and a cheap dig I admit (but you've made plenty yourself).  I think you may need to look up the meaning of the word professional.  A crypto coin can't be professional, those around it may be considered so one day in the future but not for some time yet it seems.  Ironically those closest to being professional coin developers, those for whom it's a vocation providing a live-able income are most likely to be the ones perpetrating the plethora of scam coins./b]
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Nice work cleaning up the announcement. Any plans for a slightly more sophisticated logo? Smiley
legendary
Activity: 996
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dev,somebody said you are Satoshi Nakamoto's student.

 Cheesy We all are!
sr. member
Activity: 826
Merit: 263
I have not mined since the initial day of release.

Just tried to update wallet to version 0.0.0.4 When I run the wallet-qt I get "Incorrect or no genesis block found. Wrong datatdir for network?"

I downloaded from NUD site from OP.

Try removing your old wallet completely and doing it again.  Make sure you keep a backup of your wallet.dat. 
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1000
I have not mined since the initial day of release.

Just tried to update wallet to version 0.0.0.4 When I run the wallet-qt I get "Incorrect or no genesis block found. Wrong datatdir for network?"

I downloaded from NUD site from OP.
sr. member
Activity: 245
Merit: 250
I've read your last post a little wrong doldgigger so excuse me for deleting it. I think you make some fair points indeed.

The bscrypt fix with 10% wasnt the most elegant one but atleast all tx id's are recorded in this topic and you can check my block explorer for the distribution started by the dev.

edit:
even when the first 500 blocks where used as a premine (25,000 coins) it would result in a premine of 0.1% and we all know most coins are distributed to people involved in mining this coin from the start. No worries from my side  Smiley
full member
Activity: 170
Merit: 100
I would like to make the NUD community aware of the convenience branch of the oldest known NUD git repository: https://github.com/nudnud/nud-unofficial/tree/convenience.

First patch: Making sure that addresses always begin with "N".

Motivation: In more professional altcoins, different starting characters usually mean different address types. So, having sometimes "M" and sometimes "N" for NUD addresses seems confusing.

Please note that unlike the code released by the user NUD, the convenience branch is developed carefully, making sure that users don't run into surprises like an invalidated genesis block (which can happen when running code advertised by NUD). So, as long as the master branch (based on NUD's releases) remains stable, the convenience branch is currently fully compatible.

Lol, so what is this? a takeover?

What do you mean by that?

Have you seen how many people contribute to Bitcoin? All takeovers? I guess you may want to sit down and read a bit in order to grasp the basics of open source software and cryptocurrencies...

I think that probably qualifies for most useless wallet update ever.

As you might have read (or not...), the branch was named "convenience", not "extremely useful". But let's talk again in a few weeks. I wouldn't be surprised if I see this fix (or future fixes) in some release on nud.fi...

But let's be fair. Can you point me to the last fix you contributed, so I can evaluate its usefulness?

Incidentally, what is a "professional altcoin"?

In my opinion, altcoin professionalism can be seen if there are some maintenance skills there, so people can afford to adopt the altcoin in their services without having to fear hardforks and blockchain restarts every week or two. And in order to achieve this, a healthy dev community is necessary. Not long ago, there was only one source for NUD fixes, and they were often controversial because they were rather disruptive (don't want to roll it all up again, read it up on the early pages of the thread). But people hardly had a choice. When people have a choice, they can decide themselves which updates create problems for them and which do not.
sr. member
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the coin logo looks like serious...
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Well, considering that you probably also hold some NUD, I understand that you may think that it is best to mute me so no one looking into this thread will become aware of the scams that were ran using NUD. But a good altcoin doesn't need such tactics. We can work together to create an altcoin community which is actually perceived as a benefit by all involved parties, with no exchanges being scammed, no one noticing that his coins are gone, etc.

It is not rocket science to run a coin in a reasonable way. But it requires the dedication to actually do so.

No one is denying the fact that scams were ran on NUD by scrypt miners exploiting a bug in the early release, thus it was decided upon that the "scammers" will be rewarded 10% of their scrypt mined coins for their contirbution to the network for revealing the bug. If you don't think that the decision was just you can freely open your own thread and start a fork, I very much doubt that you'd get a lot of followers that are willing to sabotage the well-being of the network in exchange for their unjustly mined NUD.

The decision was made in such a manner as to upset the least miners, had we not reduced the fraudulently mined coins to 10% people would claim that I abused the bug to mine coins for myself (e.g. a premine).

Well, who saw the code first, and could actually schedule a 7-day scrypt mining operation? It was you. Everybode else had to wait for the release. So, I doubt any smart person would be deceived by the rude wording you use for the scrypt miners whose success was enabled by the software you released. Reducing the premine to 10% does not change this.

But this topic is really boring. What I find more interesting than deciding about how much reduction a premine needs in order to look less suspicious are things like the altcoin exchange scamming scheme seen on this thread. No doubt a smart move in order to secure some tiny profit, but I am somewhat sceptical if it will benefit the altcoin world.

Where there is original innovation there will always be bugs present, if you don't like that you might want to invest into some clonecoin.


Some innovators rather invest in decent skills, which buys them a community which doesn't have to run buggy software.

What?  Who could schedule a 7-day scrypt mining operation?  Uhhhh.......anyone with a few bucks for an ASIC or a few fractions of a BTC to rent some mining power?  You aren't making sense.

Looks like some people were lucky finding it out early. But the only party which could schedule the operation would be the dev and his team, because at the point the coin was released, there was the "bcrypt" fake advertisement.

The scrypt bug was discovered very quickly after the coin was launched, it was no big secret.  Can you please point me toward anyone who still says they never got their 10% from after the blockchain reset?  How does angering a bunch of miners, cutting the coin count to 10% (which would include the coins that the dev supposedly secretly mined using a bug that wasn't even secret?), and actively discouraging NUD from being trading on an exchange be profitable at all?  Either NUD is legit, or the dev is guilty of running the most convoluted scam ever conceived in crypto.

Well, did you follow what happened to cryptcoin? After seeing this, even highly convoluted altcoin scams don't look too far-fetched anymore. These things happen. But it's nothing to whine about. NUD still has some interesting technology included, so we should all work together to make the coin a bit more legit than a "well, we can't prove it through the blockchain because we deleted it, but no one complains about missing coins anymore". If you have seen how aggressive some people on this forum are towards people who want to look a bit deeper into potential fishyness, it is pretty obvious that a "no one complains about missing coins anymore" statement is worth nothing. A small fraction of the community (probably those who made the greatest profit early) probably scared away many interested user through their "shut up if you lost coins" attitude. In my opinion, a lot of users contributed to the coin early on, and even putting off one early contributor is a pity.

Also, I find it boring to discuss about legit or not. Blockchain crypto allows us to create transparency, so every user can see what the coin is about. Think about it: What is more trustworthy towards a new user? A coin where the blockchain clearly shows an scrypt and a bcrypt phase (wouldn't be the first coin which had multiple phases)? Or a coin where the forum advertises an attitude of "we call everyone who asks about the pre-mine a faggot"?

The bottom line being: Even if the 10% decision was a good one (which I doubt, even though it would be profitable for me since I did not engage in the scrypt phase), any decent developer could have incorporated it in the blockchain, creating hard source-code- and blockchain-based evidence, rather than some warm words on a forum.

The irony is everyone was too busy bitching and moaning about all the NUD they lost after the blockchain reset to realize that CPU mining was piss easy.  I solo mined more NUD with 3 desktop CPUs and 1 laptop in the week after the reset than I did BEFORE the blockchain reset with scrypt mining.

Indeed Wink. As said, the actions of the dev led to more NUD for me because I did not mine scrypt. But I'm not an opportunist. I think the merit of cryptocurrencies is that they allow us to create consensus over a community. And some of the early actions were rather bad for having more than some early stakeholders to trust in the coin.
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