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legendary
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miner software optimization might get 3090 to 150mhs...hopefully  Grin
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RTX3090 can do 111.5mhs?



Not sure on the 3090 but Nicehash supposedly says they saw a 3080 do 80 mhs on eth.  The 3080 115 mhs eth reported from China might be a stretch.

https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1304028167104065536

legendary
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sr. member
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Hey all... firstly i wanted to state that it was NOT me that posted that ETH Morpheus pill or whatever thread that got locked in this forum! Apparently there was a breach here that exposed some user passwords?  Anyway, I just logged on and saw that crap and therefore just changed my PW.

Now, on to a few mining questions...  I got my 5700XT rig up and running a few days ago, but seems there may be fan issues on 2 of the 4 GPUs i have hooked up so far. 

Here is what I am generally seeing (running this on SMOS):

GPU1- MSI 5700XT Gaming:              ~49 degrees / 30-40% fan / ~110W
GPU2- MSI 5700XT Gaming:              ~46 degrees / 72-80% fan / ~110W
GPU3- Gigabyte 5700XT Gaming OC:  ~48 degrees / 70-100% fan / ~110W
GPU4- MSI 5700XT Evoke:                 ~51 degrees / 30-40% fan / ~110W

My SMOS settings for this rig:

Core MHz:  1300
Memory Mhz:  900
Aggressive Undervolt: On
PowerStage:  5
Target Temp:  68
Min Fan Speed:  30

For reference, this rig is in my garage, next to my 2 1070ti rigs that usually run around 60-66 degrees with about 40% avg fan speed.

Question #1:  any idea why GPU's 2 & 3 would be spinning their fans much faster than 1 & 4?  Especially strange to me since #1 & #2 are the exact same brand/model, and the temps are not even remotely close to my target temp of 68.

Question #2:  are these high fan speeds risky in any way?  All things being equal, is there a spin rate that I should be targeting not to exceed?

Question #3:  is there a way within SMOS to control the MAX fan speed?  The MIN fan speed shows up in the OC window but cant see anything to set the MAX. 

If it is not good to have these high fan speeds, my school of thought is to reduce those even if it results in higher temps since current temps seem to be quite low around 50.  Or, is there something about 5700 series that they need to run much cooler than 1070ti's or rx 470's?


some msi cards are nuts about the fan speed.

 but try the options

 Memory UV (MVDD):  1275,1275,1275,1275

Memory UV (MVDDCI):  775,775,775,775


or

Memory UV (MVDD) 1300,1300,1300,1300

Memory UV (MVDDCI) 800,800,800,800


stock is

1350
850

and may make the memory hot

which will speed the fans


I have gone as low as

1250
  750

but usually

1300
  800

is the one that works best.

Thanks Phil... I am still trying to learn about the nuances of SMOS (and new line of GPUs) so I really appreciate the tips!

To clarify, I should try setting MVDD to 1300 & MVDDCI to 800 in addition to leaving the 1300/900 I have specified in the Core&Mem MHz sections, correct?
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YOU KNOW YOU WANT IT...GOT TO HAVE IT...HEY HEY HEY


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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Hey all... firstly i wanted to state that it was NOT me that posted that ETH Morpheus pill or whatever thread that got locked in this forum! Apparently there was a breach here that exposed some user passwords?  Anyway, I just logged on and saw that crap and therefore just changed my PW.

Now, on to a few mining questions...  I got my 5700XT rig up and running a few days ago, but seems there may be fan issues on 2 of the 4 GPUs i have hooked up so far. 

Here is what I am generally seeing (running this on SMOS):

GPU1- MSI 5700XT Gaming:              ~49 degrees / 30-40% fan / ~110W
GPU2- MSI 5700XT Gaming:              ~46 degrees / 72-80% fan / ~110W
GPU3- Gigabyte 5700XT Gaming OC:  ~48 degrees / 70-100% fan / ~110W
GPU4- MSI 5700XT Evoke:                 ~51 degrees / 30-40% fan / ~110W

My SMOS settings for this rig:

Core MHz:  1300
Memory Mhz:  900
Aggressive Undervolt: On
PowerStage:  5
Target Temp:  68
Min Fan Speed:  30

For reference, this rig is in my garage, next to my 2 1070ti rigs that usually run around 60-66 degrees with about 40% avg fan speed.

Question #1:  any idea why GPU's 2 & 3 would be spinning their fans much faster than 1 & 4?  Especially strange to me since #1 & #2 are the exact same brand/model, and the temps are not even remotely close to my target temp of 68.

Question #2:  are these high fan speeds risky in any way?  All things being equal, is there a spin rate that I should be targeting not to exceed?

Question #3:  is there a way within SMOS to control the MAX fan speed?  The MIN fan speed shows up in the OC window but cant see anything to set the MAX. 

If it is not good to have these high fan speeds, my school of thought is to reduce those even if it results in higher temps since current temps seem to be quite low around 50.  Or, is there something about 5700 series that they need to run much cooler than 1070ti's or rx 470's?


some msi cards are nuts about the fan speed.

 but try the options

 Memory UV (MVDD):  1275,1275,1275,1275

Memory UV (MVDDCI):  775,775,775,775


or

Memory UV (MVDD) 1300,1300,1300,1300

Memory UV (MVDDCI) 800,800,800,800


stock is

1350
850

and may make the memory hot

which will speed the fans


I have gone as low as

1250
  750

but usually

1300
  800

is the one that works best.
sr. member
Activity: 451
Merit: 269
Hey all... firstly i wanted to state that it was NOT me that posted that ETH Morpheus pill or whatever thread that got locked in this forum! Apparently there was a breach here that exposed some user passwords?  Anyway, I just logged on and saw that crap and therefore just changed my PW.

Now, on to a few mining questions...  I got my 5700XT rig up and running a few days ago, but seems there may be fan issues on 2 of the 4 GPUs i have hooked up so far.  

Here is what I am generally seeing (running this on SMOS):

GPU1- MSI 5700XT Gaming:              ~49 degrees / 30-40% fan / ~110W
GPU2- MSI 5700XT Gaming:              ~46 degrees / 72-80% fan / ~110W
GPU3- Gigabyte 5700XT Gaming OC:  ~48 degrees / 70-100% fan / ~110W
GPU4- MSI 5700XT Evoke:                 ~51 degrees / 30-40% fan / ~110W

My SMOS settings for this rig:

Core MHz:  1300
Memory Mhz:  900
Aggressive Undervolt: On
PowerStage:  5
Target Temp:  68
Min Fan Speed:  30

For reference, this rig is in my garage, next to my 2 1070ti rigs that usually run around 60-66 degrees with about 40% avg fan speed.

Question #1:  any idea why GPU's 2 & 3 would be spinning their fans much faster than 1 & 4?  Especially strange to me since #1 & #2 are the exact same brand/model, and the temps are not even remotely close to my target temp of 68.

Question #2:  are these high fan speeds risky in any way?  All things being equal, is there a spin rate that I should be targeting not to exceed?

Question #3:  is there a way within SMOS to control the MAX fan speed?  The MIN fan speed shows up in the OC window but cant see anything to set the MAX.  

If it is not good to have these high fan speeds, my school of thought is to reduce those even if it results in higher temps since current temps seem to be quite low around 50.  Or, is there something about 5700 series that they need to run much cooler than 1070ti's or rx 470's?


I don't have any of those cards, but my research showed that they run hot and you may have to underclock/under-volt, I hope that is not the case.

Just a question: all things considered, isn't the 5600xt a better option?
sr. member
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Hey all... firstly i wanted to state that it was NOT me that posted that ETH Morpheus pill or whatever thread that got locked in this forum! Apparently there was a breach here that exposed some user passwords?  Anyway, I just logged on and saw that crap and therefore just changed my PW.

Now, on to a few mining questions...  I got my 5700XT rig up and running a few days ago, but seems there may be fan issues on 2 of the 4 GPUs i have hooked up so far. 

Here is what I am generally seeing (running this on SMOS):

GPU1- MSI 5700XT Gaming:              ~49 degrees / 30-40% fan / ~110W
GPU2- MSI 5700XT Gaming:              ~46 degrees / 72-80% fan / ~110W
GPU3- Gigabyte 5700XT Gaming OC:  ~48 degrees / 70-100% fan / ~110W
GPU4- MSI 5700XT Evoke:                 ~51 degrees / 30-40% fan / ~110W

My SMOS settings for this rig:

Core MHz:  1300
Memory Mhz:  900
Aggressive Undervolt: On
PowerStage:  5
Target Temp:  68
Min Fan Speed:  30

For reference, this rig is in my garage, next to my 2 1070ti rigs that usually run around 60-66 degrees with about 40% avg fan speed.

Question #1:  any idea why GPU's 2 & 3 would be spinning their fans much faster than 1 & 4?  Especially strange to me since #1 & #2 are the exact same brand/model, and the temps are not even remotely close to my target temp of 68.

Question #2:  are these high fan speeds risky in any way?  All things being equal, is there a spin rate that I should be targeting not to exceed?

Question #3:  is there a way within SMOS to control the MAX fan speed?  The MIN fan speed shows up in the OC window but cant see anything to set the MAX. 

If it is not good to have these high fan speeds, my school of thought is to reduce those even if it results in higher temps since current temps seem to be quite low around 50.  Or, is there something about 5700 series that they need to run much cooler than 1070ti's or rx 470's?

legendary
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They are power hungry almost 220 watts to do 100-115mh

my amd 5600 take 85 watts to do 40mh

so I can get 3x 5600 for 270 = 810

and it is mining as I type

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5600-xt-rx-5600-xt-gaming-mx/p/N82E16814137571?Item=N82E16814137571



+ $10 off w/ promo code VGAMS56XTMX, limited offer

I'm watching hbm2e vrams from amd. remember radeon vii 100mhs? it is going for 150mhs..at ~200mhs and it blows everyone out of their seats hehe, nvidia killer here at least for mining.

older tech have a very high probabilty almost 100% outclassed by newer/better tech, gddr6x-->no miner optimizations yet.

as for mining rig density 1 is to 3 is a very good ratio against lower end cards. even if the power consumption is equal, for example (1card)150mhs at 300 watts vs (3card) 150mhs at 300 watts. at 1 is to 4 ratio, it is a no brainer, i'm all in hehe
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'

They are power hungry almost 220 watts to do 100-115mh

my amd 5600 take 85 watts to do 40mh

so I can get 3x 5600 for 270 = 810

and it is mining as I type

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5600-xt-rx-5600-xt-gaming-mx/p/N82E16814137571?Item=N82E16814137571



+ $10 off w/ promo code VGAMS56XTMX, limited offer
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legendary
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Had 1 rig crash a few days ago, Windows 10 machine. Looks like something in the bois.  Since I am making 1/15 what I was a week ago (just running Nicehash until everything was stable), figured I would try something different.

Still have spare hardware sitting from 2017, which includes a z370 board.  I don't believe the HDD would transfer easily from the dead z270, so thought I would try NicehashOS.


Has anyone used it, any problems or tips?


It should work especially on Windows 10. Just plug in the HDD and windows 10 should boot right up. The only issues I ever had in the past was usually with the LAN and USB drivers. However this was with Windows 7 and W10 might handle this issue better.

The issue was that Win7 loads the wrong USB and LAN drivers even though its a different chipset. So basically if you don't want to re-install windows you have to manually find the CD that came with the motherboard and install whichever driver is not working.

It seems easy however its a pain because when the USB doesn't work, your keyboard and mouse won't work. So you will need a PS2 keyboard, lucky I got one from my Windows 95 days. If your LAN isn't working then you can just use another computer and download the LAN drivers from the mobo drivers section of their website. Reboot and all should work well.
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Had 1 rig crash a few days ago, Windows 10 machine. Looks like something in the bois.  Since I am making 1/15 what I was a week ago (just running Nicehash until everything was stable), figured I would try something different.

Still have spare hardware sitting from 2017, which includes a z370 board.  I don't believe the HDD would transfer easily from the dead z270, so thought I would try NicehashOS.


Has anyone used it, any problems or tips?
legendary
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I don't think the next gen gear will be a lot better for efficiency.

The 5600xt can do 85 watts and 40mh .  In know that is the software number.

But I think a 85 watt card reading 75mh for the software number is further off then you think.

The bump from the 5600xt 's 85w-40mh will be 20-25% tops

so the 6600xt will do 85w-50mh which does not concern me much

Did a quick search 5600 xt was already at 7nm and next gen is still 7nm, so not much. You might be right.

The efficiency wars will be set in gddr6 vs hbm2e for amd.

Nvidia however is moving from 12nm to 8nm...smaller nm always means efficiency at a significant level.

I didn't watch how's the 4gb cards are doing, but my opinion was biased for "almost full vram" when the time when 280x 3gb was almost full but still mining, there was something vram size related that brings the hashrate down due to it becoming "almost full".

legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I don't think the next gen gear will be a lot better for efficiency.

The 5600xt can do 85 watts and 40mh .  In know that is the software number.

But I think a 85 watt card reading 75mh for the software number is further off then you think.

The bump from the 5600xt 's 85w-40mh will be 20-25% tops

so the 6600xt will do 85w-50mh which does not concern me much
legendary
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thanks for all the advice...its a cost game at the end of day and with vega56 being 295 will prob end up buying them.

IMHO, better to invest in the 5600/5700XT because better resale value, BIOS mod gives good results, good power/hash ratio

While cost game is important factor, stable rig without any babysitting, lights out operation and can be placed in remote DC/warehouse etc. the 5x00 is worth it.

BBT's latest video on 5600XT seems to deliver best performance - check it out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MghxzsrDFJ4
Best Bang for the Buck Mining GPU for Ethereum 5600XT 6GB DDR6
Posted on 1st Sept 2020



LOL 6gb? people just got disqualified with their 4gb cards and then they just moved to the second base-6gb? plus add the upcoming more powerful/efficient upcoming gpus, these cards will be kicked out of the game very soon.
 
"bang for the buck" because the next bang, they'll get banged out of ETH mining and probably other coins too...the saying "you get what you pay for" applies to this one.  

Actually, I have to correct you. 4GB cards still haven't been "disqualified" as current ETH DAG is 3.81GB and you can mine with 4GB until end of year.

And no, these "6GB" cards will not get "kicked out of the game very soon" as ETH DAG will only reach 6GB in around 4 years (around March if you go by https://investoon.com/tools/dag_size) and that is IF ETH does NOT move to PoS until that time, which it probably will.

okay, but moore's law coming for gpus (new gens) before the end of the year.

all the "efficiency" the holy grail seekers out there, just wait and see hehe
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thanks for all the advice...its a cost game at the end of day and with vega56 being 295 will prob end up buying them.

IMHO, better to invest in the 5600/5700XT because better resale value, BIOS mod gives good results, good power/hash ratio

While cost game is important factor, stable rig without any babysitting, lights out operation and can be placed in remote DC/warehouse etc. the 5x00 is worth it.

BBT's latest video on 5600XT seems to deliver best performance - check it out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MghxzsrDFJ4
Best Bang for the Buck Mining GPU for Ethereum 5600XT 6GB DDR6
Posted on 1st Sept 2020



LOL 6gb? people just got disqualified with their 4gb cards and then they just moved to the second base-6gb? plus add the upcoming more powerful/efficient upcoming gpus, these cards will be kicked out of the game very soon.
 
"bang for the buck" because the next bang, they'll get banged out of ETH mining and probably other coins too...the saying "you get what you pay for" applies to this one.  

Actually, I have to correct you. 4GB cards still haven't been "disqualified" as current ETH DAG is 3.81GB and you can mine with 4GB until end of year.

And no, these "6GB" cards will not get "kicked out of the game very soon" as ETH DAG will only reach 6GB in around 4 years (around March if you go by https://investoon.com/tools/dag_size) and that is IF ETH does NOT move to PoS until that time, which it probably will.
legendary
Activity: 3444
Merit: 1061
thanks for all the advice...its a cost game at the end of day and with vega56 being 295 will prob end up buying them.

IMHO, better to invest in the 5600/5700XT because better resale value, BIOS mod gives good results, good power/hash ratio

While cost game is important factor, stable rig without any babysitting, lights out operation and can be placed in remote DC/warehouse etc. the 5x00 is worth it.

BBT's latest video on 5600XT seems to deliver best performance - check it out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MghxzsrDFJ4
Best Bang for the Buck Mining GPU for Ethereum 5600XT 6GB DDR6
Posted on 1st Sept 2020



LOL 6gb? people just got disqualified with their 4gb cards and then they just moved to the second base-6gb? plus add the upcoming more powerful/efficient upcoming gpus, these cards will be kicked out of the game very soon.
 
"bang for the buck" because the next bang, they'll get banged out of ETH mining and probably other coins too...the saying "you get what you pay for" applies to this one.  
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
So retailmenot is doing 12% off at newegg

and newegg has this card

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5600-xt-rx-5600-xt-gaming-mx/p/N82E16814137571?

it is 269 -12%  from retailmenot.


https://www.retailmenot.com/view/newegg.com

if you guys had choice between vega56 or 5600xt where would you put your money? looking at a 6 rig build on vega56 at 295 but 5600xt seem more expensive(vega consumes more power but my situation allows for free power up to 3KW/hr so not a factor)

btw, great price on those 5600xt Phil..when ready to share source pls pass on Grin

here is how to get it for 269 -12%
DrX
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thanks for all the advice...its a cost game at the end of day and with vega56 being 295 will prob end up buying them.

Is that new or used? because where i'm living you can get used vega 56 easily for 160$.
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