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Quote from: philipma1957 on September 12, 2020, 05:45:02 PM

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I am back online.

Tired 💤 but gear is now set up at farm in clifton nj

I know you use SMOS -- you done any messing with Hive ~~or Hashr8~~ OS? I've been reading up on them and see they are newer players.

Hive seems to have some competitiveness ~~to me while Hashr8 seems to be less as refined since it's younger.~~

Quote from: philipma1957 on February 12, 2020, 09:04:20 PM

I have a thread 🧵 ripper 1920x with 8 sticks ram 128gb.

It has three vegas making a few dollars.

Digging this up as I happen to have a couple of thread rippers myself.

I assume you added XMR mining to this rig? I've been on the fence about using one for that. Why the 128GB?

amazon fucked up a listing on amazon warehouse. so I purchased 256gb ram for 600 bucks.

well 128gb for 300 on 2 occasions.

this is a stupid cheap price . And if I resell the rigs I can get a decent price with the 128gb ram tossed in. as you simply can not buy 128gb ram used or new for as low as 300 bucks.

Damn that's a great deal! -- you see my question about the other OS?

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Quote from: Eyedol-X on September 12, 2020, 04:32:34 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on September 12, 2020, 12:40:36 PM

I am back online.

Tired 💤 but gear is now set up at farm in clifton nj

I know you use SMOS -- you done any messing with Hive or Hashr8 OS? I've been reading up on them and see they are newer players.

Hive seems to have some competitiveness to me while Hashr8 seems to be less as refined since it's younger.

Quote from: philipma1957 on February 12, 2020, 09:04:20 PM

I have a thread 🧵 ripper 1920x with 8 sticks ram 128gb.

It has three vegas making a few dollars.

Digging this up as I happen to have a couple of thread rippers myself.

I assume you added XMR mining to this rig? I've been on the fence about using one for that. Why the 128GB?

amazon fucked up a listing on amazon warehouse. so I purchased 256gb ram for 600 bucks.

well 128gb for 300 on 2 occasions.

this is a stupid cheap price . And if I resell the rigs I can get a decent price with the 128gb ram tossed in. as you simply can not buy 128gb ram used or new for as low as 300 bucks.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on September 12, 2020, 12:40:36 PM

I am back online.

Tired 💤 but gear is now set up at farm in clifton nj

I know you use SMOS -- you done any messing with Hive or Hashr8 OS? I've been reading up on them and see they are newer players.

Hive seems to have some competitiveness to me while Hashr8 seems to be less as refined since it's younger.

Quote from: philipma1957 on February 12, 2020, 09:04:20 PM

I have a thread 🧵 ripper 1920x with 8 sticks ram 128gb.

It has three vegas making a few dollars.

Digging this up as I happen to have a couple of thread rippers myself.

I assume you added XMR mining to this rig? I've been on the fence about using one for that. Why the 128GB?

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I am back online.

Tired 💤 but gear is now set up at farm in clifton nj

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On the way to the farm. I will be back on line in about five hours.

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Quote from: P00P135 on September 11, 2020, 10:33:01 PM

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Quote from: arielbit on September 11, 2020, 08:53:30 PM

I have a quick look at filecoin mining, i read that nvidia is the go to card for mining (gpu is only part of the system that will mine).

also gpu need not be very powerful but not the low end kinds, there is high chances that 1080ti will do the job just about right.

if 1080ti can still make profits for you maybe keeping some is a good idea while waiting for filecoin main net.

Making Money more .... https://enlinks.xyz/223965348862111

Cool referral link...

Big oooooof.

Quote from: crazydane on September 11, 2020, 06:04:21 PM

Appreciate the feedback all! Dumping them all here in the market place forum does sound pretty appealing, especially if someone would be interested in buying several all at once. The 1080Tis are almost all EVGA SC or SC2 ones. Would probably sell off the oddball ones on eBay, like my 4 MSI 1080Ti open loop water cooled ones since they are not really appealing to miners. Just about all cards have original boxes and all original accessories.

I like the idea of having a mix of 1080Ti's, 5600's and 3080's. My rigs are all mostly identical Asus PRIME Z270-A mobos with those 2400W server PSU's that are 94% efficient I got from Parallel Miner a while back.

I have never mined with AMD cards before, so that would be a whole new experience. I use Awesome Miner to manage all the rigs. Rigs are running mostly nvOC (Ubuntu) but a few are on Win10.

I had all my rigs on MPT Zcoin for the better part of a year, and switched to ETH to catch this recent wave where I saw North of $175/day, but am now back to about $75/day with most rigs back on MPT as it is slightly more profitable for me.

I'll put together a complete inventory list and PM you Phil.

I'd be interesting in taking a few 1080 Ti's out of your hands if price is good and shipping to Serbia doesn't kill the deal.

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Quote from: arielbit on September 11, 2020, 08:53:30 PM

I have a quick look at filecoin mining, i read that nvidia is the go to card for mining (gpu is only part of the system that will mine).

also gpu need not be very powerful but not the low end kinds, there is high chances that 1080ti will do the job just about right.

if 1080ti can still make profits for you maybe keeping some is a good idea while waiting for filecoin main net.

Making Money more .... https://enlinks.xyz/223965348862111

Cool referral link...

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I have a quick look at filecoin mining, i read that nvidia is the go to card for mining (gpu is only part of the system that will mine).

also gpu need not be very powerful but not the low end kinds, there is high chances that 1080ti will do the job just about right.

if 1080ti can still make profits for you maybe keeping some is a good idea while waiting for filecoin main net.

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Quote from: Eyedol-X on September 11, 2020, 05:32:57 PM

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Quote from: btcshiner on September 11, 2020, 10:51:21 AM

I think the 3080 at a cost of $699 doing between 80 to 115 mhs on eth is more attractive than the 3090 at a cost of $1,499 doing 115 to 150 mhs on eth.

I personally don't see the 3090 doing 150 mhs and feel the roi is going to be significantly longer than the 3080's 10-12 months. If the 3090 ends on the lower end of eth performance your looking at potentially 2 plus years before it's paid off. For me I can't justify the difference in time to roi.

Well we are still guessing a bit on prices and hash rates.
I put my name on this list for all models the 3070 the 3080, 3090.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

So is the consensus here the estimated power savings from the 3000 series for the purposes of mining justifies dumping 1000 and 2000 series cards from Nvidia?

Do we yet have some definitive or reasonable numbers that show effective power usages? I've seen estimates but nothing more than that at this stage.

If I had a ton of 1080ti's and no better gear I would put some up for sale.

I would put some of the sales on the side for the 3080 or 3090
I would buy this card now.

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5600-xt-rx-5600-xt-gaming-mx/p/N82E16814137571?

I tried more then 9 amd models I like this one the most.

I would try to become.

⅓ 1080ti
⅓ amd 5600
⅓ nvidia 3080/3090

once I reached that goal

I would sell the remaining 1080ti's and look at the big navi card or the 3080/3090 to put the rest of the 1080ti sales money into.

For me and my team

we are
12/13 1080ti
1 1080
1 1070
4 1660
1 1050ti

and 25 new amd 5500,5600,5700

we may dump some 1080ti

I'm considering finally making the switch to SMOS and currently considering options.

I've got a mix of older RX480/580 cards that I plan to sell and it seems like that 5600XT a good replacement plus a sizeable mix of 1070/1070TI/1080s all of which have long been paid for/off in 6/7GPU configurations.

Do you believe the power savings alone is going to be enough to justify going in the red short term to make the switch? It seems like it clearly would be in the case of the AMD cards.

Well all my Nvidia are paid off. The amd will be paid for in under 100 days.

And if you are in the usa you can be running them in a few days.

The one on newegg would come to most of the USA by tues.

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5600-xt-rx-5600-xt-gaming-mx/p/N82E16814137571?

They run very quiet and cool they are a longer card.

On my 8 pcie boards

I do
1 - msi 5600
2.....
3 - xfx 5600
4...
5 - msi 5600
6.....
7 - msi 5600
8 short visiontek/his 5500

Model   Clocks   Hashrate   Pwr   °C/Fan

0: Msi RX 5600 XT 6GB
xxx-xxx-xxxx
1150/900
793mV   39.28 MH/s
1300mv/777mv   90 W   61°C / 66%

1: Xfx RX 5600 XT 6GB
113-150WO23NAVIXLE6
1150/900
787mV   39.27 MH/s
1300mv/777mv   87 W   67°C / 38%

2: Msi RX 5600 XT 6GB
xxx-xxx-xxx
1150/900
800mV   39.26 MH/s
1300mv/777mv   83 W   60°C / 74%

3: Msi RX 5600 XT 6GB
xxx-xxx-xxx
1150/900
793mV   39.26 MH/s
1300mv/777mv   85 W   60°C / 81%

4: His RX 5500 XT 8GB
113-D332
200/921
800mV   26.63 MH/s
1300mv/800mv   59 W   57°C / 41%


183.70 MH/s   544 W

nice compact rig runs cool

the long msi gets enough air.

I can get this up from parts in about 20 minutes.

simple mining is sweet.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on September 11, 2020, 12:31:10 PM

Quote from: adaseb on September 11, 2020, 12:00:10 PM

Quote from: crazydane on September 11, 2020, 11:46:19 AM

I'm thinking of selling my now 2 gen old GPUs. I checked sold listing on eBay as of yesterday and averaged the selling prices for the last few days.

Here is the issue with eBay. A wise miner once said "The best time to sell mining equipment is usually when its the highest chance of getting screwed" it might of been phil if I recall correctly.

The reason why is because they usually side with the buyer and what happens is people buy ASICs or GPUs on eBay. Then shortly after the difficulty can go up or price can go down and it might not longer be profitable and they will just open up a Paypa dispute saying "GPUs are not as described" and you will have to accept the return and sometimes they bill you for the return shipping.

Best is to just sell it on FB marketplace or Craiglist and get cash instead. Hence no refunds possible.

better yet offer them here at bargain rates

a 1080ti for 300usd.

payable in btc. and sold here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=75.0

is like selling one for 380 on eBay as the fees hurt your sale price

I can help you with escrow. If you sell them here.

pm me

Appreciate the feedback all! Dumping them all here in the market place forum does sound pretty appealing, especially if someone would be interested in buying several all at once. The 1080Tis are almost all EVGA SC or SC2 ones. Would probably sell off the oddball ones on eBay, like my 4 MSI 1080Ti open loop water cooled ones since they are not really appealing to miners. Just about all cards have original boxes and all original accessories.

I like the idea of having a mix of 1080Ti's, 5600's and 3080's. My rigs are all mostly identical Asus PRIME Z270-A mobos with those 2400W server PSU's that are 94% efficient I got from Parallel Miner a while back.

I have never mined with AMD cards before, so that would be a whole new experience. I use Awesome Miner to manage all the rigs. Rigs are running mostly nvOC (Ubuntu) but a few are on Win10.

I had all my rigs on MPT Zcoin for the better part of a year, and switched to ETH to catch this recent wave where I saw North of $175/day, but am now back to about $75/day with most rigs back on MPT as it is slightly more profitable for me.

I'll put together a complete inventory list and PM you Phil.

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Quote from: deadsix on September 11, 2020, 01:47:04 AM

Quote from: arielbit on September 10, 2020, 02:05:49 PM

miner software optimization might get 3090 to 150mhs...hopefully Grin

No, Eth is memory bound, 3080 and 3090 have the same memory type and speed so the minor difference we will see would be due to 320 vs 384bit bus width. And this isnt on-die HBM, dont expect 90+ on anything.

I'm not sware of any new instructions except FP64 which is of no use in mining so I'm not expecting any signficant coding improvements,
even for compute bound algos.

The new compiler and runtime might provide some minor improvements but unlikely to be significant.

The default intensity will need to be updated for the new cards but it can always be set manually.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on September 11, 2020, 05:15:04 PM

Quote from: Eyedol-X on September 11, 2020, 05:01:02 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on September 11, 2020, 11:09:05 AM

Quote from: btcshiner on September 11, 2020, 10:51:21 AM

I think the 3080 at a cost of $699 doing between 80 to 115 mhs on eth is more attractive than the 3090 at a cost of $1,499 doing 115 to 150 mhs on eth.

I personally don't see the 3090 doing 150 mhs and feel the roi is going to be significantly longer than the 3080's 10-12 months. If the 3090 ends on the lower end of eth performance your looking at potentially 2 plus years before it's paid off. For me I can't justify the difference in time to roi.

Well we are still guessing a bit on prices and hash rates.
I put my name on this list for all models the 3070 the 3080, 3090.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

So is the consensus here the estimated power savings from the 3000 series for the purposes of mining justifies dumping 1000 and 2000 series cards from Nvidia?

Do we yet have some definitive or reasonable numbers that show effective power usages? I've seen estimates but nothing more than that at this stage.

If I had a ton of 1080ti's and no better gear I would put some up for sale.

I would put some of the sales on the side for the 3080 or 3090
I would buy this card now.

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5600-xt-rx-5600-xt-gaming-mx/p/N82E16814137571?

I tried more then 9 amd models I like this one the most.

I would try to become.

⅓ 1080ti
⅓ amd 5600
⅓ nvidia 3080/3090

once I reached that goal

I would sell the remaining 1080ti's and look at the big navi card or the 3080/3090 to put the rest of the 1080ti sales money into.

For me and my team

we are
12/13 1080ti
1 1080
1 1070
4 1660
1 1050ti

and 25 new amd 5500,5600,5700

we may dump some 1080ti

I'm considering finally making the switch to SMOS and currently considering options.

I've got a mix of older RX480/580 cards that I plan to sell and it seems like that 5600XT a good replacement plus a sizeable mix of 1070/1070TI/1080s all of which have long been paid for/off in 6/7GPU configurations.

Do you believe the power savings alone is going to be enough to justify going in the red short term to make the switch? It seems like it clearly would be in the case of the AMD cards.

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Quote from: Eyedol-X on September 11, 2020, 05:01:02 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on September 11, 2020, 11:09:05 AM

Quote from: btcshiner on September 11, 2020, 10:51:21 AM

I think the 3080 at a cost of $699 doing between 80 to 115 mhs on eth is more attractive than the 3090 at a cost of $1,499 doing 115 to 150 mhs on eth.

I personally don't see the 3090 doing 150 mhs and feel the roi is going to be significantly longer than the 3080's 10-12 months. If the 3090 ends on the lower end of eth performance your looking at potentially 2 plus years before it's paid off. For me I can't justify the difference in time to roi.

Well we are still guessing a bit on prices and hash rates.
I put my name on this list for all models the 3070 the 3080, 3090.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

So is the consensus here the estimated power savings from the 3000 series for the purposes of mining justifies dumping 1000 and 2000 series cards from Nvidia?

Do we yet have some definitive or reasonable numbers that show effective power usages? I've seen estimates but nothing more than that at this stage.

If I had a ton of 1080ti's and no better gear I would put some up for sale.

I would put some of the sales on the side for the 3080 or 3090
I would buy this card now.

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5600-xt-rx-5600-xt-gaming-mx/p/N82E16814137571?

I tried more then 9 amd models I like this one the most.

I would try to become.

⅓ 1080ti
⅓ amd 5600
⅓ nvidia 3080/3090

once I reached that goal

I would sell the remaining 1080ti's and look at the big navi card or the 3080/3090 to put the rest of the 1080ti sales money into.

For me and my team

we are
12/13 1080ti
1 1080
1 1070
4 1660
1 1050ti

and 25 new amd 5500,5600,5700

we may dump some 1080ti

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Quote from: philipma1957 on September 11, 2020, 11:09:05 AM

Quote from: btcshiner on September 11, 2020, 10:51:21 AM

I think the 3080 at a cost of $699 doing between 80 to 115 mhs on eth is more attractive than the 3090 at a cost of $1,499 doing 115 to 150 mhs on eth.

I personally don't see the 3090 doing 150 mhs and feel the roi is going to be significantly longer than the 3080's 10-12 months. If the 3090 ends on the lower end of eth performance your looking at potentially 2 plus years before it's paid off. For me I can't justify the difference in time to roi.

Well we are still guessing a bit on prices and hash rates.
I put my name on this list for all models the 3070 the 3080, 3090.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

So is the consensus here the estimated power savings from the 3000 series for the purposes of mining justifies dumping 1000 and 2000 series cards from Nvidia?

Do we yet have some definitive or reasonable numbers that show effective power usages? I've seen estimates but nothing more than that at this stage.

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Quote from: btcshiner on September 11, 2020, 12:23:05 PM

I'd probably sell the 1080, 1070's and 1070 ti's to start and look at getting 23 5600 xt's for $270 each or 18 5700's for $350 each. Possibly 8 3080 if you want to mine non eth algo's.

3080..
remember free power, 100mhs ETH is very good.. when near full capacity, then start looking for more efficiency or higher hash rate algo coins.

1080 and below, sell ASAP, they are dead when 3080 hits the market.

I would hesitate from buying 1 year old cards that will be outclassed by cards that will come out next month LOL

3080 vs big navi..

big navi a bit better at efficiency or big navi better at pricing, the profit for using the cards 1 month early justify the "price difference"?..if yes then buy nvidia.

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Quote from: crazydane on September 11, 2020, 11:46:19 AM

I'm thinking of selling my now 2 gen old GPUs. I checked sold listing on eBay as of yesterday and averaged the selling prices for the last few days.

Here is the issue with eBay. A wise miner once said "The best time to sell mining equipment is usually when its the highest chance of getting screwed" it might of been phil if I recall correctly.

The reason why is because they usually side with the buyer and what happens is people buy ASICs or GPUs on eBay. Then shortly after the difficulty can go up or price can go down and it might not longer be profitable and they will just open up a Paypa dispute saying "GPUs are not as described" and you will have to accept the return and sometimes they bill you for the return shipping.

Best is to just sell it on FB marketplace or Craiglist and get cash instead. Hence no refunds possible.

better yet offer them here at bargain rates

a 1080ti for 300usd.

payable in btc. and sold here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=75.0

is like selling one for 380 on eBay as the fees hurt your sale price

I can help you with escrow. If you sell them here.

pm me

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I'd probably sell the 1080, 1070's and 1070 ti's to start and look at getting 23 5600 xt's for $270 each or 18 5700's for $350 each. Possibly 8 3080 if you want to mine non eth algo's.

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Quote from: crazydane on September 11, 2020, 11:46:19 AM

I'm thinking of selling my now 2 gen old GPUs. I checked sold listing on eBay as of yesterday and averaged the selling prices for the last few days.

It looks like the going rates are better than I thought. (I would never pay the below prices myself) Here's a breakdown of what I have that combined does around 2,100 MH/s on ETH:

25 1080Ti @ $380 = $9,500
1 1080 @ $300 = $300
14 1070Ti @ $260 = $3,640
16 1070 @ $194 = $3,104

So a grand total of $16,544 less eBay 10% = $14,890. But a more realistic net is probably around $10k

2,100 MH/s is about 23 3080 GPUs (assuming 90 MH/s) @ $699 = $16,077

My current mix of 1000 series cards consume right around 8,000 watts

23 3080's would drop that almost in half to 4,600 watts (assuming 200 watts per GPU)

I guess another option would be to pickup 40 5700s @ $350 = $14,000

The 5700s would consume 5,200 watts (assuming 130 watts per GPU)

My power is essentially free since I have 50kW worth of solar panels that produce enough kWh to keep the mining rigs running 24/7.

Dump my 1000 series cards while they still have some value, or just keep mining with them until they die? What would you do?

free power means you need to have the highest hashrate as possible.

x2 of your current hash rate is x2 profit

the earlier you start mining with newer cards the earlier they ROI.

keep them (old cards) running while adding newer cards, as you reach the maximum electrical capacity sell the older cards- preferably during ETH pumps like if it pumps to 500, buyers will appear hehe.

will not recommend cards since 3080 is not out yet and we have not seen more info about it. besides running those many gpus i believe you already have an insight for your next ideal setup.

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Quote from: crazydane on September 11, 2020, 11:46:19 AM

I'm thinking of selling my now 2 gen old GPUs. I checked sold listing on eBay as of yesterday and averaged the selling prices for the last few days.

Here is the issue with eBay. A wise miner once said "The best time to sell mining equipment is usually when its the highest chance of getting screwed" it might of been phil if I recall correctly.

The reason why is because they usually side with the buyer and what happens is people buy ASICs or GPUs on eBay. Then shortly after the difficulty can go up or price can go down and it might not longer be profitable and they will just open up a Paypa dispute saying "GPUs are not as described" and you will have to accept the return and sometimes they bill you for the return shipping.

Best is to just sell it on FB marketplace or Craiglist and get cash instead. Hence no refunds possible.

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I'm thinking of selling my now 2 gen old GPUs. I checked sold listing on eBay as of yesterday and averaged the selling prices for the last few days.

It looks like the going rates are better than I thought. (I would never pay the below prices myself) Here's a breakdown of what I have that combined does around 2,100 MH/s on ETH:

25 1080Ti @ $380 = $9,500
1 1080 @ $300 = $300
14 1070Ti @ $260 = $3,640
16 1070 @ $194 = $3,104

So a grand total of $16,544 less eBay 10% = $14,890. But a more realistic net is probably around $10k

2,100 MH/s is about 23 3080 GPUs (assuming 90 MH/s) @ $699 = $16,077

My current mix of 1000 series cards consume right around 8,000 watts

23 3080's would drop that almost in half to 4,600 watts (assuming 200 watts per GPU)

I guess another option would be to pickup 40 5700s @ $350 = $14,000

The 5700s would consume 5,200 watts (assuming 130 watts per GPU)

My power is essentially free since I have 50kW worth of solar panels that produce enough kWh to keep the mining rigs running 24/7.

Dump my 1000 series cards while they still have some value, or just keep mining with them until they die? What would you do?

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