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Quote from: philipma1957 on August 24, 2020, 04:26:27 PM

Quote from: GabryRox on August 24, 2020, 03:23:31 PM

Hey everyone, is anyone currently dual mining ETH + other coin? I think options are pretty limited with both Phoenix & Claymore, but are there other miners out there that can effectively do ETH + other profitable algos like MTP, Cuckoo, KawPow, Beam, etc?

Assuming my 1070ti rigs would be much better at dual mining vs my 470's but not sure if it's worth it.

I always have tried to keep it simple and never did a lot of dual mining.

I did the ETH and ZIL dual mining for a while but its peanuts. I do like that ZILICA project but dual mining IMHO not worth it.

I however bought from open market a substaintial amount of ZIL at its low a few days ago, and locked it at Binance on 0.3% annual yield. This ZIL is ideal for long term stash me thinks.

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Quote from: GabryRox on August 24, 2020, 03:23:31 PM

Hey everyone, is anyone currently dual mining ETH + other coin? I think options are pretty limited with both Phoenix & Claymore, but are there other miners out there that can effectively do ETH + other profitable algos like MTP, Cuckoo, KawPow, Beam, etc?

Assuming my 1070ti rigs would be much better at dual mining vs my 470's but not sure if it's worth it.

Use bminer for dual mining,eth+ziliqa you should get extra 4-5% profit

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Quote from: GabryRox on August 24, 2020, 04:34:28 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on August 24, 2020, 04:26:27 PM

Quote from: GabryRox on August 24, 2020, 03:23:31 PM

Hey everyone, is anyone currently dual mining ETH + other coin? I think options are pretty limited with both Phoenix & Claymore, but are there other miners out there that can effectively do ETH + other profitable algos like MTP, Cuckoo, KawPow, Beam, etc?

Assuming my 1070ti rigs would be much better at dual mining vs my 470's but not sure if it's worth it.

I always have tried to keep it simple and never did a lot of dual mining.

Yeah i hear ya Phil... back when i first started mining in 2016, i was dual mining ETH + DCR and actually made a pretty good profit on the DCR portion. Although, I unfortunately didn't realize i could dual mine until about 6 months in, so probably lost several thousand in profit from that oversight, but i digress...

To me, it' all about the "extra work to potential incremental profit" ratio. So, if it's just a few more cents per day but you have to change miners and manage another pool, it's just not worth the effort. But, if the extra profit is significant, then maybe it's worth that extra work.

I did just find a site "MinerStat" that shows a lot more algos than whattomine, but looks like the best dual mine is ETH + ZIL, which only nets like 50 cents more per day (for 12 1070ti's), so clearly not worth it for that small amount.

those dual minable algos were profitable when they are not yet fpga'd and/or asic'd

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Quote from: philipma1957 on August 24, 2020, 04:26:27 PM

Quote from: GabryRox on August 24, 2020, 03:23:31 PM

Hey everyone, is anyone currently dual mining ETH + other coin? I think options are pretty limited with both Phoenix & Claymore, but are there other miners out there that can effectively do ETH + other profitable algos like MTP, Cuckoo, KawPow, Beam, etc?

Assuming my 1070ti rigs would be much better at dual mining vs my 470's but not sure if it's worth it.

I always have tried to keep it simple and never did a lot of dual mining.

Yeah i hear ya Phil... back when i first started mining in 2016, i was dual mining ETH + DCR and actually made a pretty good profit on the DCR portion. Although, I unfortunately didn't realize i could dual mine until about 6 months in, so probably lost several thousand in profit from that oversight, but i digress...

To me, it' all about the "extra work to potential incremental profit" ratio. So, if it's just a few more cents per day but you have to change miners and manage another pool, it's just not worth the effort. But, if the extra profit is significant, then maybe it's worth that extra work.

I did just find a site "MinerStat" that shows a lot more algos than whattomine, but looks like the best dual mine is ETH + ZIL, which only nets like 50 cents more per day (for 12 1070ti's), so clearly not worth it for that small amount.

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Quote from: GabryRox on August 24, 2020, 03:23:31 PM

Hey everyone, is anyone currently dual mining ETH + other coin? I think options are pretty limited with both Phoenix & Claymore, but are there other miners out there that can effectively do ETH + other profitable algos like MTP, Cuckoo, KawPow, Beam, etc?

Assuming my 1070ti rigs would be much better at dual mining vs my 470's but not sure if it's worth it.

I always have tried to keep it simple and never did a lot of dual mining.

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Hey everyone, is anyone currently dual mining ETH + other coin? I think options are pretty limited with both Phoenix & Claymore, but are there other miners out there that can effectively do ETH + other profitable algos like MTP, Cuckoo, KawPow, Beam, etc?

Assuming my 1070ti rigs would be much better at dual mining vs my 470's but not sure if it's worth it.

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Okay I just built a nice 3 card rig.

2 of these

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5600-xt-rx-5600-xt-mech-oc/p/N82E16814137498?Item=N82E16814137498

1 of these

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5700-rx-5700-mech-gp-oc/p/N82E16814137568?

I had an six board onda mobo.

https://www.amazon.com/Onda-D1800-BTC-Mining-Motherboard/dp/B07CLL8B6D/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?

I had a quark 850 watt plat psu

https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-quark-850-850w/p/N82E16817182352R

the rig does 375 watts at the kwatt meter

Out of pocket with deals 3 gpus were 830 usd

375 watts and 130 mhs

clocks are good and it is stable.

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I just tried copying straps and then played around a bit myself with Red bios editor

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Quote from: fr4nkthetank on August 22, 2020, 05:19:33 PM

thanks for the input, you have nice results. I managed to get power consumption down with 56mhs, if someone could share how they get power draw on gpuz to sub 100w that would be fun
edit: just to be clear its just this xfx 5700xt with dual bios switch and 3 fans on it that gave me so much trouble.

Did you tweak the memory timings yourself or pull details from somewhere else?

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thanks for the input, you have nice results. I managed to get power consumption down with 56mhs, if someone could share how they get power draw on gpuz to sub 100w that would be fun
edit: just to be clear its just this xfx 5700xt with dual bios switch and 3 fans on it that gave me so much trouble.

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Quote from: fr4nkthetank on August 22, 2020, 12:48:33 PM

So unable to get all cards stable at high hashrates, I toned it down a bit and this seems good, will see in 24-48hrs. GPU4 has no modifications other than memory clock and power limit/voltage. Im still a bit confused on a lot of things but I need a break and do something else with my day. GPU voltage looks like a bad/not real reading, in any case core power draw is darn close to actual off the wall power - psu efficiency as tested with wattmeter. I can change voltage to pretty much any reasonable number and it has no effect on anything else. So in short core clock determines voltage curve with temperature as a factor ? Methinks so.
Undecided

good temps though 76c mem and sub 60 hot spot on 60% fan. Ill bring down the fan speed after its proven stable.

Sometimes it's very time consuming to deal with AMD tweaks until find the perfect hashrate for power consumption

I have a 5700XT Gigabyte - no bios mod, 1885Mhz on memory, 1245mhz core clock with 750mv and -35% of power limit, hashing 54.2Mhs solid without any error during weeks (I just restart my PC once a week)
I thought about doing a bios mod, but I remember old times dealing with RX 570 and 580 and I'm happy with this clock

I have a 1660 super too, easy to deal, just put +999 on memory clock, set 60% of fan and 56% of power limit Cheesy

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So unable to get all cards stable at high hashrates, I toned it down a bit and this seems good, will see in 24-48hrs. GPU4 has no modifications other than memory clock and power limit/voltage. Im still a bit confused on a lot of things but I need a break and do something else with my day. GPU voltage looks like a bad/not real reading, in any case core power draw is darn close to actual off the wall power - psu efficiency as tested with wattmeter. I can change voltage to pretty much any reasonable number and it has no effect on anything else. So in short core clock determines voltage curve with temperature as a factor ? Methinks so.
Undecided

good temps though 76c mem and sub 60 hot spot on 60% fan. Ill bring down the fan speed after its proven stable.

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Newegg shipped fast I got 2 gpu msi rx 5600 xt today.

I slapped a mobo on a wooden board and I am testing the msi rig

I have a 550 watt psu. a rosewill quark.

I wonder if smos is having issues today maybe too many rigs going on line. Grin

the single eight pin jack is nice.

cards finally fired up

2 cards are doing 38mh each at 103 watts and 97 watts each

at the wall rig reads 281 watts

I am due a third card on monday let me check that yeah that is a msi 5700

which should do about 52mh the rig should be close to 130 mh at 400-410 watts

I am up to:

18 gpu and 700mh
2 gpu and 85mh
2 gpu and 85mh
5 gpu and 160mh
27 gpu and 1030mh right now

with 2 gpus coming

by next week I will be at 29 gpus and 1100mhs

I have 3 boards ready for cards
and I Have psu's for them
I also have 6 cpu miners doing xmd they all can do 2 cards.

So I could order 25 more gpus it is tempting as I can do them all with PayPal credit. for now I will just stick with the 27+2 = 29

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I had reference5700, but I just got 4 5700XT to build a small rig - now that its not super hot outside. Why XT ? 30$ more than the 5700 here and these XFX triple dissipation have a dual bios switch, which is nice. The new drivers mess up a lot of stuff and I find myself at a loss to what to do but its been a little while...Anyways quick fan curve and mem timings bios flash and it gets 55mhs@1800 and 58mhs@1875-1900 @45-55c/55-60%. 60 seems reachable. One card didnt like to be flashed and was unstable at any speed, so I had to fix that and one card is unstable even stock settings timings and slight overclock which is shitty but it happens. Gpu takes 135-145w from the wall as measured by my killawatt. My test bench runs windoze, but even though I have a vague memory of seeing this before....Amd runs a fan curve for clocks/voltage now and any changes you make to get fixed values gets reverted. Ill have to look into that, anybody know why?
Still once I get stable settings for all cards its not a bad gpu. I like it a lot actually. I view this as a modern 570 its not a beefy card. Next NAVI coming up will be 100+mhs just looking at expected specs I think.
edit: they have 8pin+6pin, but its not bad, 1000wPSU, 4 gpu rig, works.

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Quote from: jasta more on August 20, 2020, 01:27:43 PM

Quote from: citronick on August 20, 2020, 11:04:46 AM

Nice hat avatar Phil.... new pic for new BTC ATH? Grin

whats the fastest ETH GPU miner currently?

Phoenix/teamredminer depends on what gpu

For amd definitely teamredminer... it does not add fake hashrate and i see uses also less power. Phoenix M for NVidia.

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Quote from: GabryRox on August 20, 2020, 08:36:53 PM

Just wanted to give a big shout out to Phil & the others who recommended moving to SMOS for a couple of problem W10/470-4GB rigs! I finally got SMOS installed, up and running last night on the one where windows was corrupted and it ran perfectly for 18 hours before I had to shut it down to control heat in my house. I thought it would be great from the comments here and reviewing some of its capabilities, but I am even more pleased now that I got over the hump.

My main issue in delaying was SMOS not having Wi-fi, but that Wi-fi to LAN converter that Phil recommended a few pages back is working perfectly! So, I ordered 1 more of those today, which should get my other problem rig running on SMOS as soon as it cools down a bit here. I will likely convert my other 2 Radeon rigs over to SMOS as well, since not having to worry about drivers or other W10 issues is worth way more than their $2 fee to me! My 2 w10 1070ti rigs continue to work without any issues, so will just l leave those as is for now.

I'm also half way to building a 6x 5700 rig. Luckily i still had a mobo, CPU & 1500w PSU left over from 2018, so it's literally just the cost of the GPU's to get that going.

wifi is in the works says the developer so it will a great addition to SMOS.

Update: SMOS release version 1284 already has WIFI in beta mode

Like you, I dumped Windows way back in 2016 and tested Linux instead, then found SMOS v1 very very crude and buggy then but oh boy how it has improved over the years (see SMOS bitcointalk forum, discord) huge community and I recalled we even had a community discussion about the pros and cons of features, 2$ pricepoint, etc.

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Quote from: GabryRox on August 20, 2020, 08:36:53 PM

Just wanted to give a big shout out to Phil & the others who recommended moving to SMOS for a couple of problem W10/470-4GB rigs! I finally got SMOS installed, up and running last night on the one where windows was corrupted and it ran perfectly for 18 hours before I had to shut it down to control heat in my house. I thought it would be great from the comments here and reviewing some of its capabilities, but I am even more pleased now that I got over the hump.

My main issue in delaying was SMOS not having Wi-fi, but that Wi-fi to LAN converter that Phil recommended a few pages back is working perfectly! So, I ordered 1 more of those today, which should get my other problem rig running on SMOS as soon as it cools down a bit here. I will likely convert my other 2 Radeon rigs over to SMOS as well, since not having to worry about drivers or other W10 issues is worth way more than their $2 fee to me! My 2 w10 1070ti rigs continue to work without any issues, so will just l leave those as is for now.

I'm also half way to building a 6x 5700 rig. Luckily i still had a mobo, CPU & 1500w PSU left over from 2018, so it's literally just the cost of the GPU's to get that going.

Thank you 🙏.

yeah it is so much easier then windows just do it.

I am running some cpu miners using nicehash and win 10.

but almost every gpu I have is pointed to smos.

they just run.

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Just wanted to give a big shout out to Phil & the others who recommended moving to SMOS for a couple of problem W10/470-4GB rigs! I finally got SMOS installed, up and running last night on the one where windows was corrupted and it ran perfectly for 18 hours before I had to shut it down to control heat in my house. I thought it would be great from the comments here and reviewing some of its capabilities, but I am even more pleased now that I got over the hump.

My main issue in delaying was SMOS not having Wi-fi, but that Wi-fi to LAN converter that Phil recommended a few pages back is working perfectly! So, I ordered 1 more of those today, which should get my other problem rig running on SMOS as soon as it cools down a bit here. I will likely convert my other 2 Radeon rigs over to SMOS as well, since not having to worry about drivers or other W10 issues is worth way more than their $2 fee to me! My 2 w10 1070ti rigs continue to work without any issues, so will just l leave those as is for now.

I'm also half way to building a 6x 5700 rig. Luckily i still had a mobo, CPU & 1500w PSU left over from 2018, so it's literally just the cost of the GPU's to get that going.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on August 20, 2020, 08:45:30 AM

buy these msi rx 5600 xt gpu's

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5600-xt-rx-5600-xt-mech-oc/p/N82E16814137498?Item=N82E16814137498

for a rx 5600 xt it is cheap. you can buy up to 3 cards

https://msi.rebateaccess.com/promotion.php?p=91454

just noticed that newegg was also listed on this rebate form... so at least two rebates from newegg.

https://msi.rebateaccess.com/promotion.php?p=91452

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Quote from: philipma1957 on August 20, 2020, 11:14:01 AM

Quote from: citronick on August 20, 2020, 11:04:46 AM

Nice hat avatar Phil.... new pic for new BTC ATH? Grin

whats the fastest ETH GPU miner currently?

Below are all my amd cards------ I am getting the msi 5600 cards. next Monday

and I am getting 1 other msi 5700 but it has 2 jacks
https://www.provantage.com/msi-r5700mgpc~7MSTI108.htm

I will report on them soon maybe Tuesday.

The best would be the eight pin msi 5700

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5700-rx-5700-mech-oc/p/N82E16814137466

it is a 1 jack model

it was for sale as low as 330.

I have 5 of those msi 5700 mech cards. they've been pretty solid. Temperatures hover around 60C under full continuous load in my computer room. no issues

This gigabyte has one 8 pin connector. I have two of these cards.
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-gv-r57gaming-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932209

Also the MSI 5700 Evoke has one 8 pin connector.
https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5700-rx-5700-evoke/p/N82E16814137520
I have six of these in a system (I had seven, but one failed after two months.. returned it to microcenter). There has been reports about the thermal pads on the 5700XT https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3531-msi-listened-rx-5700xt-evoke-oc-thermal-pad-revision being to thin on memory chips when they were first released. MSI did a free replacement on the earlier ones to fix this issue.

As far as i know, the 5700 evokes have been discontinued.

Every month though there has been a MSI Rebate on these cards. One rebate for Newegg.com, one rebate for Newegg.ca, and one rebate for all others (i.e. Amazon, Microcenter, Fry's, B&H, BestBuy, and a few others.)

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