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Topic: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! - page 115. (Read 66416 times)

legendary
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---- winter*juvia -----

I will keep these 470s,480s aside and offline for now (i have total 240 + 60 of them)


Oi, whadayamean keep them aside smh. Loan em to me in the meantime Tongue

LOL.... I am dusting them currently and should have enough parts to build around 35 rigs.... dismantling the farm took almost 2 weeks.

@soothaa ..... I doubt I have enough power in my current farm to get 40 plus rigs, since I gave up 50% of my farm space.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 7
from the killawatt 807watts

nothing to brag about for 5 x 480s at 28.xx mhs

the newer GPUs like single 5700XT can do twice the hash at lower watts

https://i.imgur.com/2OIFQS0.png


I have 5 x RX580 8GB, total at the wall around 610W (230V power). 28.XXmhs / GPU.

Not saying that this a great result, just hopefully a helpful data point for somebody.

I did try to go up to 30mhs, but lost stability (and patience).
I am mining mostly to stay current with this crazy virtual coin thingy and it is fun too :-)

https://i.imgur.com/IIbV0d6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lj3Czz6.jpg

RIG:
W10 Pro + Nicehash running Phoenix
ASROCK H110 PRO BTC+
i3-6100 & stock fan
5 x RX580 (Powercolor Red Dragon/2 x Sapphire Pulse/2 x Sapphire Pulse BE)
8GB RAM
120GB SSD M.2
PSU1 750W (80+)
PSU2 550W (80+)

Phoenix launch parameters (I found these here in Phoenix miner thread)
-mt 1 -gt 64 -rmode 1 -cvddc 820 -mvddc 825 -cclock 1050 -mclock 2075

jr. member
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Merit: 17
Enjoy reading that thread almost daily... It's now being a part of my morning routine. Give my baby girl a bottle and while I stream some Youtube cartoons for her, I read this. Pretty much like rig porn literature, right?  Grin

I tried to go back to thread one, but pardon my ignorance, aside generally covering profitable/worthwhile mining setups, is that also a journal of the evolution of OP GPU farm?

Btw OP, I bought an SP20 from you back in 2017... Cheesy Sadly, it's still sitting on my shelf, covered with dust. Never had the occasion to power it as my first attempt to building an ASIC farm ended up with that Quadrigacx mess. I was lucky enough not to lose too much money, but my partners at that time lost around 2 BTC... A fortune from my small miner perspective. Anyway, enough of background and introduction.

I recently got back to GPU mining back around May. You guys might think I'm masochist, but I'm currently running 2 rigs for a total of 12 P106-090 3GB that I got real cheap from Alibaba. They're useless for anything other than Raven and Nimiq, and I probably won't be able to mine RVN for too long neither as the DAG size is also increasing there. But I'm lucky enough to pay $0.045 per kWh, so this is still profitable, racking around $100 to $120 monthly so far. Really small setup, but based on what I can read here, I'd better stack that money and buy some 5700 XT moving forward, then slowly grow from there. Basic setup (MOBO, CPU, Risers, 6pins cables, PSUs, breakout boards and RAM) is literally killing me anyway, as it's almost as expensive as GPUs in my case.

I have a barn in the backyard I'd like to fill with them. I'll max out my panel in no time, but we'll see how it goes.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge guys.

Cheers!
jr. member
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When ETH goes parabolic, I will squeeze the melons out of the 470,480s - at that time electricty wont be hard to justify.  



I'm not here to argue about what your justification should or shouldn't be.  Just talking through my own thoughts and how I may justify differently.

I have two rigs running a total of around 390mh/s and let's say roughly 1.65kw.  As such, I pay around $6 a day to run this @$.15US per kwh.

Notwithstanding hardware cost, which obviously is a concern, but on a power basis I would need to clear out that $6 a day in ETH or more basically at today's price.  If I don't, it would be more cost effective to just buy the ETH directly.  I should also add that it would be $6/day + one's tax bracket, but I digress...

$6/390=0.015 USD per day per MH.

You can pop over to https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/ethereum-mining_profitability.html#6m to view just this metric.  Currently it's like around 0.03, and it has indeed been above that threshold for a bit of time, at times substantially.  **The rewards does not always follow when ETH or whatever coin is hot, just whether the network is paying at a given moment.  Recently the reward was 2x what it is today, but ETH price wasn't 2x, it was maybe 10% higher than it is now.  

YMMV, but point of discussion, hope you don't mind.  

Also, if I'm understanding right you have like an order of magnitude or two more hash rate than I do, so different metric prevails.
hero member
Activity: 1151
Merit: 528
When ETH goes parabolic, I will squeeze the melons out of the 470,480s - at that time electricty wont be hard to justify.  
Why not have them running now and have the extra ETH if you're so sure? I mean it's only the difference of a little USD.. (that's what I'm doing)
hero member
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Merit: 517
Fail to plan, and you plan to fail.

I will keep these 470s,480s aside and offline for now (i have total 240 + 60 of them)


Oi, whadayamean keep them aside smh. Loan em to me in the meantime Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
from the killawatt 807watts

nothing to brag about for 5 x 480s at 28.xx mhs

the newer GPUs like single 5700XT can do twice the hash at lower watts

--- snip ---


Software still reporting a total of ~664?

Yeah, the 5700xt is basically a double card, lol.  Now that I've learned a bit with the dozen Polaris cards I have, I have an appetite for more efficiency going forward.

SMOS still reports the same 664w

the mobo, ram, cpu etc takes about 142w

I can only conclude that the 80ish watts is not correct, since it totals only 408w.

it should be 664w div 5 = avg aropund 130ish per GPU, which aint that great for only 28mhs

I will keep these 470s,480s aside and offline for now (i have total 240 + 60 of them)

All my 1080tis, 1070tis, Vegas are mining ETH for a while now

A few 1060 and P106-100 rigs are also just up and running.

When ETH goes parabolic, I will squeeze the melons out of the 470,480s - at that time electricty wont be hard to justify.  

jr. member
Activity: 41
Merit: 2
from the killawatt 807watts

nothing to brag about for 5 x 480s at 28.xx mhs

the newer GPUs like single 5700XT can do twice the hash at lower watts

https://i.imgur.com/2OIFQS0.png


Software still reporting a total of ~664?

Yeah, the 5700xt is basically a double card, lol.  Now that I've learned a bit with the dozen Polaris cards I have, I have an appetite for more efficiency going forward.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
from the killawatt 807watts

nothing to brag about for 5 x 480s at 28.xx mhs

the newer GPUs like single 5700XT can do twice the hash at lower watts


jr. member
Activity: 41
Merit: 2
Try powerstage 3 or 4 and see if it hits your set number.
legendary
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Merit: 1723
Generally all these RX 470/480/570/580 have the same power consumption. If you undervolt to 900mV which is the average voltage before you get stability issues the GPUs pull around 120-130 watts from the wall after Gold PSU inefficiencies and not including the mobo+ram+ssd+fans.

So if you want the best consumption per rig you should use all the max slots on the motherboard. Generally the mobo+ram+ssd+fans use about 30-40 watts and each GPU uses 125 Watts or so. So if you got a 6 GPU rig it typically consumes ~800 Watts or so.

The people that claim that their RX 570 uses 75 watts from the wall clearly don't own a power meter.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
Yeah it is fun again.  I look forward to seeing the daily earnings.

looks like even my old 480s can do 28mhs at 80-ish watts with latest SMOS AMD drivers, modest OC settings - incredible!

the problem is I forgot if these 480s were BIOS modded.

the must be an error somewhere since dashboard reporting 0.975 undervolt, but I clearly set it to 0.850 at OC settings.

but then again these old 480s maybe acting up due to old age since the 1st PCI reports a 4gb 480 which is clearly wrong

I need to find a kill-a-watt power adapter to see the actuals from the wall - 80-ish watts is hard to believe







your image has a total watts number it is about 660 for five cards.

that is very close to the at the wall kwatt meter

if you add the gpus

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you get 408 that is what the gpu chip uses not the gpu ram and the gpu fans and the mobo chips and the mobo cpu.  and of course the psu efficiency
legendary
Activity: 2366
Merit: 1408
I need to find a kill-a-watt power adapter to see the actuals from the wall - 80-ish watts is hard to believe

Probably 130w from the wall, it's nice to see 80w, but this is only from GPU core, you have to add the entire card power draw and you'll lose a bit more on PSU efficiency (6 to 10% more or less)

But it's not bad if you are on 10 cents kw USD range, when you buy a kill-a-watt power adapter tell us how much your rig are consuming
hero member
Activity: 1151
Merit: 528
I need to find a kill-a-watt power adapter to see the actuals from the wall - 80-ish watts is hard to believe
I'm not sure if SMOS factors in the fact that the AMD driver only reports like the core usage, not entire card usage.. AwesomeMiner has a % power increase factor you can set in order to overcome this. I find a 35% increase is usually around the right number.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
Yeah it is fun again.  I look forward to seeing the daily earnings.

looks like even my old 480s can do 28mhs at 80-ish watts with latest SMOS AMD drivers, modest OC settings - incredible!

the problem is I forgot if these 480s were BIOS modded.

the must be an error somewhere since dashboard reporting 0.975 undervolt, but I clearly set it to 0.850 at OC settings.

but then again these old 480s maybe acting up due to old age since the 1st PCI reports a 4gb 480 which is clearly wrong

I need to find a kill-a-watt power adapter to see the actuals from the wall - 80-ish watts is hard to believe





legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
Yeah it is fun again.  I look forward to seeing the daily earnings.
sr. member
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Merit: 282
With the recent price surge, i've turned on my old rigs for a quick profit with all the paid-off gear (glad i didn't sell everything!). So happy to see this legendary megathread is alive. I've been looking to build a power wall so i can turn on my rigs more often.

Can't believe how much i missed this!
hero member
Activity: 1151
Merit: 528
I just tried copying straps and then played around a bit myself with Red bios editor
Man how did I forget about doing this. Thanks man. Will try this today.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
Hey everyone, is anyone currently dual mining ETH + other coin?  I think options are pretty limited with both Phoenix & Claymore, but are there other miners out there that can effectively do ETH + other profitable algos like MTP, Cuckoo, KawPow, Beam, etc?

Assuming my 1070ti rigs would be much better at dual mining vs my 470's but not sure if it's worth it.

I always have tried to keep it simple and never did a lot of dual mining.

I did the ETH and ZIL dual mining for a while but its peanuts. I do like that ZILICA project but dual mining IMHO not worth it.

I however bought from open market a substaintial amount of ZIL at its low a few days ago, and locked it at Binance on 0.3% annual yield. This ZIL is ideal for long term stash me thinks.
It's more about the timing for dual mining,hns for example was also profitable for few weeks .As for zil not really big fan of coins that promise to implement sharding I mean even eth don't know how (so far)

Got a juicy bite of HNS for weeks using my Blackminers while it lasted, before ASICs came in a spoiled the party.
member
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Hey everyone, is anyone currently dual mining ETH + other coin?  I think options are pretty limited with both Phoenix & Claymore, but are there other miners out there that can effectively do ETH + other profitable algos like MTP, Cuckoo, KawPow, Beam, etc?

Assuming my 1070ti rigs would be much better at dual mining vs my 470's but not sure if it's worth it.

I always have tried to keep it simple and never did a lot of dual mining.

I did the ETH and ZIL dual mining for a while but its peanuts. I do like that ZILICA project but dual mining IMHO not worth it.

I however bought from open market a substaintial amount of ZIL at its low a few days ago, and locked it at Binance on 0.3% annual yield. This ZIL is ideal for long term stash me thinks.
It's more about the timing for dual mining,hns for example was also profitable for few weeks .As for zil not really big fan of coins that promise to implement sharding I mean even eth don't know how (so far)
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