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Topic: Nvidia 1060 vs 1070 vs 1080 vs 1080Ti (Read 8349 times)
İf you use ethash algo.
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I know this is super simple... but please consider I just need 2 card to finish a rig that has 4 1070s... and my energy cost is a fixed monthly one...
https://imgur.com/HqpPySc
So even if the 1080 is not the most energy efficient.. from this data I got seems to be a legit choice to finish this one rig.
https://imgur.com/HqpPySc
So even if the 1080 is not the most energy efficient.. from this data I got seems to be a legit choice to finish this one rig.
1080 better
I agree.. 1080 better.. at current prices.. half the price of the 1080ti.. and much more then half the hash rate.. im about to get some
My opinion is that the 1080 is a bad decision, especially if you can get the 1080ti for only an additional few hundred bucks. The 1080ti has better hashrate for density and has the best power efficiency ratios. Not to mention that it has more resale value in the long run.
I highly recommend that you do the math first.
I'm doing the math now in a excel spreadsheet, i'll post it here, with current prices from newegg/amazon.
I have all of them except 1080, the last that i bought was 1080ti. I think it is worth every penny, for some algos it gives twice more then 1070.
1080 better
I agree.. 1080 better.. at current prices.. half the price of the 1080ti.. and much more then half the hash rate.. im about to get some
My opinion is that the 1080 is a bad decision, especially if you can get the 1080ti for only an additional few hundred bucks. The 1080ti has better hashrate for density and has the best power efficiency ratios. Not to mention that it has more resale value in the long run.
I highly recommend that you do the math first.
1080 better
I agree.. 1080 better.. at current prices.. half the price of the 1080ti.. and much more then half the hash rate.. im about to get some
1080 better
Try reading the NEC sometime - the code REQUIRES a 20% derate for 24/7 operation for SAFETY reasons, and a 15 amp circuit is only legit at 1800 watts *IF* you are seeing 120 VAC OR MORE at the socket, which is bloody RARE.
You WILL have issues once the temps warm up, unless you keep the breaker box in an air-conditioned room - and you ARE pushing the wiring and the outlets THEMSELVES past safe operation conditions unless the outlets are NEMA 5-20 AND the wiring is sized for 20 amps or more (12 AWG).
You might have issues with the breakers even if they ARE air conditioned, as your rigs will soak a little more power when they get warmer.
Yes, you might get away with exceeding specs for a while - but when your place burns down due to overloading your circuits, you have only YOURSELF to blame.
M.2 to PCI-E slot adpapters have been widely reported to have issues - some get them to work, others never manage it.
They also add cost per slot, though I'm not sure how much or how little.
Also, motherboards that have 7 or more PCI-E slots tend to be EXPEN$IVE - adds significantly to the cost per GPU, and needing fewer CPUs and RAMS doesn't always add up to less expensive if you're paying $50-$100 MORE per motherboard.
You're also going to lose more hashrate for longer when a bigger rig goes down - might be enough to more than make up for any "cost per slot" savings IF ANY that a bigger rig MIGHT manage.
It's a tradeoff - I prefer the smaller rigs because they fit SAFELY into my infrastructure, your rigs are NOT a safe fit at 2 per 15 amp circuit.
You WILL have issues once the temps warm up, unless you keep the breaker box in an air-conditioned room - and you ARE pushing the wiring and the outlets THEMSELVES past safe operation conditions unless the outlets are NEMA 5-20 AND the wiring is sized for 20 amps or more (12 AWG).
You might have issues with the breakers even if they ARE air conditioned, as your rigs will soak a little more power when they get warmer.
Yes, you might get away with exceeding specs for a while - but when your place burns down due to overloading your circuits, you have only YOURSELF to blame.
M.2 to PCI-E slot adpapters have been widely reported to have issues - some get them to work, others never manage it.
They also add cost per slot, though I'm not sure how much or how little.
Also, motherboards that have 7 or more PCI-E slots tend to be EXPEN$IVE - adds significantly to the cost per GPU, and needing fewer CPUs and RAMS doesn't always add up to less expensive if you're paying $50-$100 MORE per motherboard.
You're also going to lose more hashrate for longer when a bigger rig goes down - might be enough to more than make up for any "cost per slot" savings IF ANY that a bigger rig MIGHT manage.
It's a tradeoff - I prefer the smaller rigs because they fit SAFELY into my infrastructure, your rigs are NOT a safe fit at 2 per 15 amp circuit.
Depends on where you live and your power requirements.
An 8 x 1060 rig pulls about 800 watts from the wall so I can run two of those rigs in one outlet.
An 8 x 1070 rig is at around 1200 watts so you can only run one per outlet.
So for example if you only had two outlets available for rigs, you could run 4 x 1060 rigs or 2 x 1070 rigs. This is for my electrical setup.. you have to see how much power is available to your outlets and then do the math on what's cheaper.. more efficient.
An 8 x 1060 rig pulls about 800 watts from the wall so I can run two of those rigs in one outlet.
An 8 x 1070 rig is at around 1200 watts so you can only run one per outlet.
So for example if you only had two outlets available for rigs, you could run 4 x 1060 rigs or 2 x 1070 rigs. This is for my electrical setup.. you have to see how much power is available to your outlets and then do the math on what's cheaper.. more efficient.
800 watts is EXCEEDING safe operating limits for a common 15 amp 117 VAC circuit that is running 24/7 if you are using 2 such rigs on that circuit.
15 amps less 20% REQUIRED DERATE for 24/7 operation = 12 amps, 2 rigs is 6 amps per or 660-720 watts MAX depending on the actual voltage at your outlets.
You can probably get away with it in the winter when temps are cold, but come summertime you WILL have issues and WILL be pushing temps to an unsafe level, especially if your breaker box is in an area that isn't air conditioned and VERY cool.
8 cards per rig is also an uncommon number - 6 seems to be "the norm" as there are very few motherboards that will support 8 cards while those that support 6 are common.
Sorry mate! The electrical can run 1800 Watts .. I push about 1550-1600 on it and it’s fine. Zero issues.
As far as running 6 cards being the norm. No way. Maybe it was the norm in 2014 but it’s a waste nowadays. I run 9 gpu’s on my boards. 7 pci slots and 2 off the m2 adapters. Why buy a 6 slot pci motherboard when you can buy a 7 + 2?
if you would build a 8 - 13 gpu rig with nivida and low power consumption costs, would you go with the 1070 or 1080? Ti is out of budget, think it's not worth it when you work with so many cards. No card is in stock at all are overpriced, so not that much room. But if you would have to buy, 1070 or 1080 to go? And EVGA is still the best brand?
What to go with for Equihash mining (at this moment):
1 x EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 GAMING, 11G-P4-6593-KR, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Technology - 9 Thermal Sensors & RGB LED
760e
2 x GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce® GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 256 bit, DVI-D, DisplayPort, HDMI
420e each = 840e both
1 x EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 GAMING, 11G-P4-6593-KR, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Technology - 9 Thermal Sensors & RGB LED
760e
2 x GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce® GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 256 bit, DVI-D, DisplayPort, HDMI
420e each = 840e both
Seems 1070 is best from the balance between Performance and Price.
Im wondering 1070 is worth to pay for tiny miner.
Now Im with 1060, for second card, 1060 6gb is affordable for beginner, but 1070 seems worth to invest for 2018mining. mmm...
Im wondering 1070 is worth to pay for tiny miner.
Now Im with 1060, for second card, 1060 6gb is affordable for beginner, but 1070 seems worth to invest for 2018mining. mmm...
IMHO, based off of performance over a large range of algo's and future resale value- the 1080 ti. Also, you can undervolt the 1080 ti if power consumption is a concern as this seems to work better to drop power consumption and maintain performance than the sliding meter.
I don't understand the hate for GTX1080. I was planning on building some rigs with 1060's but it takes a lot of 1060's. The normal 1080 appears to be about twice as fast as the 1060 and while it is a bit more than twice the cost, you can use half of them. 12 gpu instead of 24 is a lot less hassle and a lot less complaining from the "boss".
Totally agree!I have a GTX1080 which I got at the same price as a gtx1070 and I am doing 490-500 sol equihash with the power limit at 60% (Could do more if I rise the power limit). IMHO if you can get a 1080 at the right price is worth it.
Yes it has limitations mining ethash (same hashrate as 1060).
In another algorithm (can't remember if cryptonight or neoscript) is as good as a 1070. On everything else is superior to a 1070 where it should be.
On top of that, it has an amazing gaming performance and a very good resale price.
Depends on where you live and your power requirements.
An 8 x 1060 rig pulls about 800 watts from the wall so I can run two of those rigs in one outlet.
An 8 x 1070 rig is at around 1200 watts so you can only run one per outlet.
So for example if you only had two outlets available for rigs, you could run 4 x 1060 rigs or 2 x 1070 rigs. This is for my electrical setup.. you have to see how much power is available to your outlets and then do the math on what's cheaper.. more efficient.
An 8 x 1060 rig pulls about 800 watts from the wall so I can run two of those rigs in one outlet.
An 8 x 1070 rig is at around 1200 watts so you can only run one per outlet.
So for example if you only had two outlets available for rigs, you could run 4 x 1060 rigs or 2 x 1070 rigs. This is for my electrical setup.. you have to see how much power is available to your outlets and then do the math on what's cheaper.. more efficient.
800 watts is EXCEEDING safe operating limits for a common 15 amp 117 VAC circuit that is running 24/7 if you are using 2 such rigs on that circuit.
15 amps less 20% REQUIRED DERATE for 24/7 operation = 12 amps, 2 rigs is 6 amps per or 660-720 watts MAX depending on the actual voltage at your outlets.
You can probably get away with it in the winter when temps are cold, but come summertime you WILL have issues and WILL be pushing temps to an unsafe level, especially if your breaker box is in an area that isn't air conditioned and VERY cool.
8 cards per rig is also an uncommon number - 6 seems to be "the norm" as there are very few motherboards that will support 8 cards while those that support 6 are common.
Depends on where you live and your power requirements.
An 8 x 1060 rig pulls about 800 watts from the wall so I can run two of those rigs in one outlet.
An 8 x 1070 rig is at around 1200 watts so you can only run one per outlet.
So for example if you only had two outlets available for rigs, you could run 4 x 1060 rigs or 2 x 1070 rigs. This is for my electrical setup.. you have to see how much power is available to your outlets and then do the math on what's cheaper.. more efficient.
An 8 x 1060 rig pulls about 800 watts from the wall so I can run two of those rigs in one outlet.
An 8 x 1070 rig is at around 1200 watts so you can only run one per outlet.
So for example if you only had two outlets available for rigs, you could run 4 x 1060 rigs or 2 x 1070 rigs. This is for my electrical setup.. you have to see how much power is available to your outlets and then do the math on what's cheaper.. more efficient.
At this point, on both the 1070 ti and the 1080 ti my "go to" card is the EVGA SC version.
Agreed, but at $572USD for the 1070ti and $798USD for the 1080ti, I am forced to consider all other options.
In my country;
GTX 1060 3GB = $194 USD
GTX 1060 6GB = $281 USD
GTX 1070 = $417
GTX 1070ti = $505
GTX 1080 = $535
GTX 1080ti = $764
Vega 56 = $535
Vega 64 = $558
Not really liking any of those options for a new rig. Sadly the 3GB 1060 seems most attractive.
Lucky you!
In my country (now):
1060 3GB ~ 350$ (Palit)
1070TI ~ 800$ (Strix, NA - old price)
1080TI ~ 1180$ (cheapest overheating MSI Armor)
Rest of the list is NA everywhere even on less reasonable prices ATM :-/
I thought about getting new rig with 4x 1080ti, but 4700$ for cards only...
edit:
Even 1080 models are available only with water cooling, LOL.
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