Pages:
Author

Topic: Nvidia 1060 vs 1070 vs 1080 vs 1080Ti - page 5. (Read 8425 times)

hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 502
September 06, 2017, 01:11:13 AM
#29
In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options. However, in some cases, the lower popularity does mean you'll be able to get them more easily, or at a less inflated price. (At my local Best Buy, the 1080s were the only ones consistently in stock on the shelves.)


1060s, 1070s, and 1080tis are pretty good. The important thing to consider here is rig density.

With some fixed number of slots, you can make better use of them with 1080ti cards rather than 1060s. However, the 1080ti usually does not offer the same individual price/performance ratio that you can get with 1060s. For example, I can get 3GB 1060s for around $200-$210 after hunting around. A 1080ti would cost me at least $700, and it does not mine at triple the rates of 3GB 1060s on any algorithm I'm interested in. (For example, I can get about 300 H/s mining Zcash with each 1060. I haven't seen many reported hashrates for a 1080ti that exceed 750-800, at best.)

With 1060s, you're getting a smaller overall rig hashrate for the motherboard/CPU/ram/etc. that you got to support the GPUs, so that's what can start to mess with the overall price/performance ratio when compared to 1080ti cards.


Another thing to consider is resale value. A 1080ti will most likely retain its usefulness for longer than 1060s, assuming you maintain them just as well.


You are right on card performances, but for the rig building cost, you should make it like: 1 rig of 6 cards 1080Ti need only 2 PSU 850W + 1 CPU +1 MB + 1 RAM..... while 3 rig of 6 cards 1060 need 3 PSU 850W + 3 CPU, 3 MB + 3 RAM... The peripherals' price is not cheap Cheesy

For me, 1080 Ti is a good deal but I'm just started with a small budget, so I'm going with 1070.


I'd say you're definitely skimping on the PSUs there, especially for 24/7 operation, and even after messing with clock & power settings.
I can confirm 6 1080 Ti with 2 850W PSUs have no problem.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 253
Gone phishing...
September 06, 2017, 01:07:05 AM
#28
In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options. However, in some cases, the lower popularity does mean you'll be able to get them more easily, or at a less inflated price. (At my local Best Buy, the 1080s were the only ones consistently in stock on the shelves.)


1060s, 1070s, and 1080tis are pretty good. The important thing to consider here is rig density.

With some fixed number of slots, you can make better use of them with 1080ti cards rather than 1060s. However, the 1080ti usually does not offer the same individual price/performance ratio that you can get with 1060s. For example, I can get 3GB 1060s for around $200-$210 after hunting around. A 1080ti would cost me at least $700, and it does not mine at triple the rates of 3GB 1060s on any algorithm I'm interested in. (For example, I can get about 300 H/s mining Zcash with each 1060. I haven't seen many reported hashrates for a 1080ti that exceed 750-800, at best.)

With 1060s, you're getting a smaller overall rig hashrate for the motherboard/CPU/ram/etc. that you got to support the GPUs, so that's what can start to mess with the overall price/performance ratio when compared to 1080ti cards.


Another thing to consider is resale value. A 1080ti will most likely retain its usefulness for longer than 1060s, assuming you maintain them just as well.


You are right on card performances, but for the rig building cost, you should make it like: 1 rig of 6 cards 1080Ti need only 2 PSU 850W + 1 CPU +1 MB + 1 RAM..... while 3 rig of 6 cards 1060 need 3 PSU 850W + 3 CPU, 3 MB + 3 RAM... The peripherals' price is not cheap Cheesy

For me, 1080 Ti is a good deal but I'm just started with a small budget, so I'm going with 1070.


I'd say you're definitely skimping on the PSUs there, especially for 24/7 operation, and even after messing with clock & power settings.
full member
Activity: 434
Merit: 107
September 05, 2017, 09:57:27 PM
#27
1060 and 1070 for me. (my 1060s are more stable and less finicky than the 1070s and can be set to high memory an core clocks across every algo ive used them with).

I usually only invest whatever revenue the rig generates and buy equipment from that (very low starting capital).

While I do appreciate 1080ti I know that it will take too long for me to get increased hashing power.
Therefore Ive chosen the two low end cards (slow but steady with zero chance of loss). Also electricity for me is free so what I make through mining is pure profit.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
September 05, 2017, 09:45:56 PM
#26
1080 is no good

On equihash
1060 270/sec
1070 430/sec
1080 ti  635/sec

On amazon current prices
1060 $300
1070. $500
1080 ti $750

Rate / price
1060 .90
1070 .86
1080ti  .85

Assuming the above are correct the 1080ti is the best bang for the buck.

You also have to consider what scale you are going to mine on. Motherboards, power supplies, risers, etc are not cheap. One rig with six 1080ti would certainly be more cost effective than building two rigs with six 1060.

Where are you getting 270/sec for the 1060? Mine does 300-310 at "stock" (they oc automatically) and 335-345 oced
full member
Activity: 672
Merit: 154
Blockchain Evangelist.
September 05, 2017, 09:32:06 PM
#25
In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options. However, in some cases, the lower popularity does mean you'll be able to get them more easily, or at a less inflated price. (At my local Best Buy, the 1080s were the only ones consistently in stock on the shelves.)


1060s, 1070s, and 1080tis are pretty good. The important thing to consider here is rig density.

With some fixed number of slots, you can make better use of them with 1080ti cards rather than 1060s. However, the 1080ti usually does not offer the same individual price/performance ratio that you can get with 1060s. For example, I can get 3GB 1060s for around $200-$210 after hunting around. A 1080ti would cost me at least $700, and it does not mine at triple the rates of 3GB 1060s on any algorithm I'm interested in. (For example, I can get about 300 H/s mining Zcash with each 1060. I haven't seen many reported hashrates for a 1080ti that exceed 750-800, at best.)

With 1060s, you're getting a smaller overall rig hashrate for the motherboard/CPU/ram/etc. that you got to support the GPUs, so that's what can start to mess with the overall price/performance ratio when compared to 1080ti cards.


Another thing to consider is resale value. A 1080ti will most likely retain its usefulness for longer than 1060s, assuming you maintain them just as well.


You are right on card performances, but for the rig building cost, you should make it like: 1 rig of 6 cards 1080Ti need only 2 PSU 850W + 1 CPU +1 MB + 1 RAM..... while 3 rig of 6 cards 1060 need 3 PSU 850W + 3 CPU, 3 MB + 3 RAM... The peripherals' price is not cheap Cheesy

For me, 1080 Ti is a good deal but I'm just started with a small budget, so I'm going with 1070.
newbie
Activity: 64
Merit: 0
September 05, 2017, 08:41:51 PM
#24
Best ROI should be with GTX 1070

I have only those NVIDIA cards, several 1080ti i took for test whitch are amazing cards but my opinion due to ROI(what most miners consider as primary question) to buy 1070.

I have much of them, EVGA, MSI, Gigabyte, Zotac, Paloc, ASUS(different types of them too) and rates for most popular hashes are :

eth : 31 - 32 mh/s
zec : 630 - 690 sols

full member
Activity: 728
Merit: 106
September 05, 2017, 01:53:38 AM
#23
In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options.
It is very popular myth. Thanks to it 1080 are more cost effective than 1070/1060.
I would agree with this...bad reputation of 1080 makes them to cost less, but they are very good for core algos, they fail only on eth,
So if price is close to 1070 I would go to 1080 instead.
Not only eth. 3 algos where 1080 are bad:
1) ethash 30% slower than 1070 very bad performance, but is cured by dual mining, giving slightly more than 1070 (~10%).
2) cryptonight. very bad performance
3) neoscrypt  ~1070.

1080 shine in (giving 80-100% of 1060)
1) skunk
2) lyra2r2
3) tribus
full member
Activity: 269
Merit: 100
September 04, 2017, 04:17:03 PM
#22
In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options.
It is very popular myth. Thanks to it 1080 are more cost effective than 1070/1060.
I would agree with this...bad reputation of 1080 makes them to cost less, but they are very good for core algos, they fail only on eth,
So if price is close to 1070 I would go to 1080 instead.
full member
Activity: 728
Merit: 106
September 04, 2017, 04:14:01 PM
#21
In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options.
It is very popular myth. Thanks to it 1080 are more cost effective than 1070/1060.


1080 535/sec
Amazon cost  $550
Rate/cost .97

How do you figure?
1080 is generally 20-30% faster than 1070. If it cost <20% more than it is more effective.
There are 3 algo in which 1080 performs bad, even worse than 1070. But there are a lot of other algos.
E.g. neoscrypt:
1060 - 900+
1070 -1100+
1080 -1100
1060 is clear winner here .... if you won't look at amd side  Grin
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
September 04, 2017, 04:05:34 PM
#20
1070 FTW! Best price / performance ratio! A little OC and good cooling ang here you go!
full member
Activity: 132
Merit: 100
September 04, 2017, 03:32:29 PM
#19
3gb cards have a problem or will very soon with the Etherium DAG file size don't they?

My numbers were for the 6 GB version.



The 6GB 1060 gets only marginally better performance over the 3GB versions when mining on equihash, which you mentioned earlier. For mining Zcash, the 3GB versions are far more cost-effective, at $200-$225 with some deal hunting.

The 6GB versions are a better choice for ETH, but ETH mining performance is not what you used in your earlier post.

You are correct. I wash referencing equihash performance. I still personally wouldn't buy a 3GB card and limit my options. Saving $75-$100 on a card that might not be able to mine everything isn't something I would recommend.

I was listing equihash because currently Zcash is more profitable to mine than ETH but that sometimes flops around the other way and I don't want to limit my options.

If you don't care about ever mining ETH yeah a 3GB 1060 is the probably the most bang for the buck card.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 253
Gone phishing...
September 04, 2017, 02:29:38 PM
#18
3gb cards have a problem or will very soon with the Etherium DAG file size don't they?

My numbers were for the 6 GB version.



The 6GB 1060 gets only marginally better performance over the 3GB versions when mining on equihash, which you mentioned earlier. For mining Zcash, the 3GB versions are far more cost-effective, at $200-$225 with some deal hunting.

The 6GB versions are a better choice for ETH, but ETH mining performance is not what you used in your earlier post.
full member
Activity: 132
Merit: 100
September 04, 2017, 02:22:00 PM
#17
3gb cards have a problem or will very soon with the Etherium DAG file size don't they?

My numbers were for the 6 GB version.

newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
September 04, 2017, 01:33:46 PM
#16
if you look at it from another angle. if hardware and space is a concern the choice is clear to me.
Performance, and price, and wattage, are very close to the same for these
(10-1080ti's)   =   (16-1070's)   =   (26- 1060 6gb)

The $200 1060 3gb perform on par with the 6gb but in the above example would save $2600
full member
Activity: 132
Merit: 100
September 04, 2017, 12:53:55 PM
#15
In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options.
It is very popular myth. Thanks to it 1080 are more cost effective than 1070/1060.


1080 535/sec
Amazon cost  $550
Rate/cost .97

How do you figure?
full member
Activity: 728
Merit: 106
September 04, 2017, 05:30:06 AM
#14
In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options.
It is very popular myth. Thanks to it 1080 are more cost effective than 1070/1060.
full member
Activity: 132
Merit: 100
September 04, 2017, 04:31:49 AM
#13
I have not noticed significant differences between brands but haven't tried them all. Different brands/models have different fan setups and more/bigger fans are better.

My son has two 1070s in his gaming computer. One is the premium evga and the other is the generic pny. They both oc to the same level and have the same hash rate. One doesn't have the fancy lights and stickers and didn't come with a poster.

jr. member
Activity: 55
Merit: 10
September 04, 2017, 03:48:21 AM
#12
1080 is no good

On equihash
1060 270/sec
1070 430/sec
1080 ti  635/sec

On amazon current prices
1060 $300
1070. $500
1080 ti $750

Rate / price
1060 .90
1070 .86
1080ti  .85

Assuming the above are correct the 1080ti is the best bang for the buck.

You also have to consider what scale you are going to mine on. Motherboards, power supplies, risers, etc are not cheap. One rig with six 1080ti would certainly be more cost effective than building two rigs with six 1060.

Is there any difference, between OEM brands??
Because some time, price difference is more then 100$...worth to pay?!

Other available markets,beside Amazon?? nwegg is "out of stock"Sad(

Thanks in advance...
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
September 04, 2017, 03:21:26 AM
#11
Yes, I also agree that you should forget about 1080, it is not only the price and power usage, and the hashrate is not too good compared to 1070, so it is not worth in ROI.

I have all three other models, they are all good but in different price range, 1050ti also good in ROI but too slow.
full member
Activity: 132
Merit: 100
September 04, 2017, 03:13:55 AM
#10
1080 is no good

On equihash
1060 270/sec
1070 430/sec
1080 ti  635/sec

On amazon current prices
1060 $300
1070. $500
1080 ti $750

Rate / price
1060 .90
1070 .86
1080ti  .85

Assuming the above are correct the 1080ti is the best bang for the buck.

You also have to consider what scale you are going to mine on. Motherboards, power supplies, risers, etc are not cheap. One rig with six 1080ti would certainly be more cost effective than building two rigs with six 1060.
Pages:
Jump to: