Topic: Nvidia 1060 vs 1070 vs 1080 vs 1080Ti - page 2. (Read 8389 times)

Given that you're already considering most of the NVIDIA GTX lineup, also consider looking into the 1050 TI. In my local cryptomining scene, where the 1060,1070,1080 are now rare or overpriced, people have now resorted to using 1050 TIs in sets of 13 GPU rigs. They do around 15 MH mining ETH and the 13 GPU rigs can do around 190-200 MH which is not bad once you consider the power consumption is low as well.

Has anyone here used 1050TIs as well?

 You DO get close to twice or sometimes a hair MORE than twice if you don't insist on pointing a 1080 at an algorithm (ethhash) that is IS NOT WELL SUITED FOR.

 You can also get a TON better efficiency on some algorithms - ZEC in particular a 1060 (per ALL of the postings I've seen) struggles to hit more than 3 sol/watt while a 1080 easily hits 4.

 For ETH, the 1060 is a better option - but that's NOT the only option out there, and judging a card JUST on it's ETH performance is STUPID.

If you buy a 1080 with the intent of mining ETH, you've already failed. Having that GDDR5X memory isn't all that great for ethash.

it all depends on how much you have to pay for the GPUs, I think that a GTX 1060 under 200€ is unbeatable. That's 24MH/s for 200€, that's "only" 8.33€ per MH/s. With a 1080, you will pay at least twice that price if you're lucky and you won't get twice more hash power.

I also think 1080s can be the best option under not-so-special circumstances (price, performance, profit, power cost, power consumption, space saving...). Also if you check whattomine.com calculator page, it will tell you the profit is quite reasonable with this card. To match 3x1080 you would have to buy more expensive 4x1070. Sure, it varies, but in my case 1080 is a better fit, even if I expand to 6 card rig. The 1080ti is out of my financial capabilities though.

So, long story short bought 3x1080 on ebay recently. They were about 20% more expensive than 1070s, and easier to find.

As the rig is still being built I'll probably jam the cards directly on the gigabyte h110 d3a motherboard for the time being. Also waiting for the riser delivery. Cooling is not a problem, it's winter and my cellar is around 5-10°C at all times.

 Heavy memory limited algorithm most likely, same as ETH where the 1070 ti ALSO has pretty much identical hashrate to the 1070.


 I don't hate the 1080 - I just have yet to see an algorithm where they are the most optimal choice.
 They're usually CLOSE to 1070 / 1070 ti / 1080ti on a hash/$ basis though - and details vary with the card and the SETTING you run the card at, sometimes they're VERY VERY close sometimes it's an easily noticeable difference.

My Zotac 1070 minis IME pushes the same hashrate as normal 1070 cards to a point, but tends to be a hair slower when pushed close to the max TDP of the Zotac since they run hotter and can't boost QUITE as high.
My Zotac 1070 ti mini MATCHES my EVGA SC 1070 ti cards when used at "max efficient" settings, I've not tried it at any other operating point.
My Gigabyte 1070 ITX cards (before most of them DIED) pushed very close on hashrate with anything else at the same settings but a HAIR slower.
My MSI Aero ITX_sized card was a hair slower than anything else at same settings, and had WORSE cooling than any other 1070 I have used (including an ASUS Turbo blower model).

Can't speak to 1060 cards as I don't own any.

Well, actually it's not a question of hate, but a question of maths.
How much electricity consumes your 1060's, 1070's, 1080's and your 1080Ti's, how much do they cost and
how many H/s or Sol/s do they generate? I also be apologist of the idea that overclocking a(ll) GPU(s) might
not be a good idea:

1 - Consider the higher temperature
2 - Consider the life cycle of the GPU under 24/7 high-temperature conditions


Finally:

I made an experience with someone that want to run a Mining Rig with 3 NVIDIA Gpus, 1060 EXOC, 120 W TDP
using a 1000W Corsair PSU, a ASROCK H81 BTC Pro, 8 GB RAM.
As he turned the Rig on, the electrical circuit went down, no functionality.
We repeated the experience at the kitchen, but were not successful:
The electrical circuit went down again, no functionality
Meanwhile he ordered a new 750 W PSU.

Are there some considerations that me and my friend are missing?

Could someone tell me if the 1060/1070 mini's hashrate the same as the full size and do they run hotter because of the one fan or a lot hotter just looking to expand my Nvidia rigs thanks

I don't understand the hate for GTX1080.  I was planning on building some rigs with 1060's but it takes a lot of 1060's. The normal 1080 appears to be about twice as fast as the 1060 and while it is a bit more than twice the cost, you can use half of them.  12 gpu instead of 24 is a lot less hassle and a lot less complaining from the "boss".

Looks like better to take 1080 their the same price at our stores. Thanks for answer.

I have to warn you that there is a problem with 1070ti with neoscrypt algo, the performance is really low - same as 1070 card, no boost
but if you will not mine coins on that algo - tale 1070ti, properly overclocked it will be only 5-10% slower gtx1080

Hi Guys! I would like to ask for your help.

I would like to start mining, but I can't decide which card I should buy, tried to calculate it by Whattomine, but because of the spikes of different coins I had crazy numbers I think.

In my country these are the costs of the GPU-s.

AMD 570 - 300$
1060 6GB - 350$
1070 - 530$
1080 - 580$

And the base:
Asrock H81 PRO BTC
Thermaltake 1200W Toughpower
Intel Core i3-4170
4 GB DDR3 RAM
Costs: 490$

And my whole budge for it is 1870$

Thanks!  

1080 not TI is almost the same price as 1070ti in local stores. What do u think should I prefer for one small rig at home with 4 cards. What power block capacity would be enough for this?
thanks for answers.

Then the best P/P is go for rx  RX 470/480/570/580? Hope to build may first rig ASAP, trying to understund best P/P.

Because I am almost at maximum density in my home and I have space for one more rig. Heat is already a problem here in summer ;(

10*1060 as a final rig is a bit meh when it is next to 8*1080ti 4*Vega56 and 4*Vega64

Sadly? Why? 194$ is really good

Agreed, but at $572USD for the 1070ti and $798USD for the 1080ti, I am forced to consider all other options.

In my country;

GTX 1060 3GB = $194 USD
GTX 1060 6GB = $281 USD
GTX 1070 = $417
GTX 1070ti = $505
GTX 1080 = $535
GTX 1080ti = $764
Vega 56 = $535
Vega 64 = $558

Not really liking any of those options for a new rig. Sadly the 3GB 1060 seems most attractive.

 Viable if you run them at about 230 watts or less (180 ballpark for the power supply that is ALSO running the MB/RAM/HD stuff) - and your power limit setting is RELIABLE (which is not always the case on Windows, Afterburner among other options will sometimes LOSE settings on one or more cards after a driver reset).
 I wouldn't push them much if any harder than 700 watts at the wall even on a GOOD power supply, for long term reliability reasons - even with the TDP turned down, you still get SPIKES on power draw quite a bit above the set point.

 On an overall "system cost" basis if you are aiming for max efficiency, the 1070 ti beats the 1080 ti on a hash/$ basis AND on a hash/watt basis - but the 1080 ti system will have a bit more ability to expand hashrate *IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH POWER SUPPLY CAPACITY* and are willing to live with lower efficiency - and the figures come out pretty close, you're not going to see a 1070 ti based rig making money and a 1080 ti rig losing money unless you're pushing the 1080 ti cards a LOT harder.

 At this point, on both the 1070 ti and the 1080 ti my "go to" card is the EVGA SC version.
 I like my Gigabyte Aorus 1080 ti cards, but the dual-8 pin power connector makes them a headache to get multiple cards hooked up compared to the 8+6 on the EVGA SC, and since I'm aiming for good efficiency the cooling on both cards is plenty and they perform equally 'till you push them up past about 220 watts (the better cooling on the Aorus lets it boost higher at that point for a bit higher hashrate and efficiency).
 The SC also tends to cost less than the Aorus, but on a $750 ballpark card the $10-$20 usual difference isn't a big deal in and of itself.

 5 x 1070 ti also fits into the power budget of my rigs, where I end up having to run only 3 x 1080 ti and set them to a somewhat less than best efficiency point (and STILL end up with less total hashrate).
 Down side is the 5 card rig WILL take up a fair bit more space - but even there it's not an issue in my specific case as my current "shelf/rack" design fits a 5 card rig very nicely on a single shelf with good cooling, but would be overkill for 3 and WON'T fit a pair of 3-card rigs on one shelf without major cooling issues.

price / hash rate / wattage ==>> you should choose 1060/6gb