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December 01, 2017, 10:30:45 AM
#49
Hello friends. Can someone answer me? How many hashrates and soles gives 1070TI ?
Sorry if this was already, I have not found.
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October 08, 2017, 12:23:52 PM
#48
With the 1070 finally getting back under $400 (Newegg pricing, saw 2 of them today at $399) it's taking back it's place as arguably the best NVidia mining choice for most algos NVidia is good at.

 1080ti pricing seems to have been going UP a bit lately - I can't remember the last under $700 listing on Newegg for one, been a month or so I think.

 1080 ti is still better from a "rig density" point of view, though, and any of the 1070/1080/1080ti options are close on both hash/$ and hash/watt when you figure them at the TOTAL SYSTEM COST AND POWER CONSUMPTION level.


 Gonna be interesting to see where the "1070 ti" specs end up at, and pricing on it, and where it falls in the efficiency and hash/$ spectrum - presuming it DOES actually happen.



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October 07, 2017, 03:29:24 PM
#47
I would like to get the 1080ti but I would then need to also upgrade my PSU which is a cost I probably cannot afford so I think im going to go for the 1070 because I can purchase it sooner and just plug it in and go. I am going to check out the AMD side like someone suggested first though.


I have a 1080ti rig and from my experience so far my 1070 rigs are better value for the money.
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October 05, 2017, 09:21:24 PM
#46
In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options. However, in some cases, the lower popularity does mean you'll be able to get them more easily, or at a less inflated price. (At my local Best Buy, the 1080s were the only ones consistently in stock on the shelves.)


1060s, 1070s, and 1080tis are pretty good. The important thing to consider here is rig density.

With some fixed number of slots, you can make better use of them with 1080ti cards rather than 1060s. However, the 1080ti usually does not offer the same individual price/performance ratio that you can get with 1060s. For example, I can get 3GB 1060s for around $200-$210 after hunting around. A 1080ti would cost me at least $700, and it does not mine at triple the rates of 3GB 1060s on any algorithm I'm interested in. (For example, I can get about 300 H/s mining Zcash with each 1060. I haven't seen many reported hashrates for a 1080ti that exceed 750-800, at best.)

With 1060s, you're getting a smaller overall rig hashrate for the motherboard/CPU/ram/etc. that you got to support the GPUs, so that's what can start to mess with the overall price/performance ratio when compared to 1080ti cards.


Another thing to consider is resale value. A 1080ti will most likely retain its usefulness for longer than 1060s, assuming you maintain them just as well.


You are right on card performances, but for the rig building cost, you should make it like: 1 rig of 6 cards 1080Ti need only 2 PSU 850W + 1 CPU +1 MB + 1 RAM..... while 3 rig of 6 cards 1060 need 3 PSU 850W + 3 CPU, 3 MB + 3 RAM... The peripherals' price is not cheap Cheesy

For me, 1080 Ti is a good deal but I'm just started with a small budget, so I'm going with 1070.


I'd say you're definitely skimping on the PSUs there, especially for 24/7 operation, and even after messing with clock & power settings.
I can confirm 6 1080 Ti with 2 850W PSUs have no problem.
for a 6x 1080ti build, assuming undervolted, what is total system wattage?

about 1000 -1100  watts at 60% tdp

  depends on the tdp  some cards are 275 tdp not 250
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October 05, 2017, 08:41:17 PM
#45
I would like to get the 1080ti but I would then need to also upgrade my PSU which is a cost I probably cannot afford so I think im going to go for the 1070 because I can purchase it sooner and just plug it in and go. I am going to check out the AMD side like someone suggested first though.
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October 05, 2017, 04:41:16 PM
#44
Now these cards are often in mining and they become cheap, especially nvidia 1050ti. Of course latest modelbis always better but it has very high price. For example you can get new nvidia 1050ti for 150$ but for 1080ti you need nearly 750$, difference is 600$ and with that 600$ you can buy 4 additional 1050ti. Of course 1080ti will pass more time and will be more useful but I wouldn't buy it now.
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October 05, 2017, 04:38:09 PM
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I am going with a 6x1070 Zotac Mini rig which is consuming all together around 750 W after pretty much fiddling with the undervolting to find the sweet spot. AMD is much better for ETH, but ETH will be dead for mining next year
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October 05, 2017, 03:28:23 PM
#42
for a 6x 1080ti build, assuming undervolted, what is total system wattage?


I was watching a video, I believe BBT and he had a 6x 1060 GB setup only drawing 500 watts for the entire rig. I am currently modeling my build after that one, but so far I only have 2 cards out of the 6 it will eventually have. I think it is a pretty close estimate as I am just pushing 200 watts right now with 2 cards and the rest of the system. Figuring 50 W for the system at idle, that is only about 75 watts per card, so 75 W x 6 + 50 is 500 watts right on.

To get this the power limit setting in afterburner needs to be set to 60% and I also under-clock my core by -100 since it has little effect on mining performance (especially with Ethereum). I have tried +100 and +150 as well, but I need to adjust the power limit to run the core higher and the core clocks really seems to not effect the hash rate at all. The memory clock does though and I usually run that at +600 to +700.
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October 05, 2017, 02:25:11 PM
#41
In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options. However, in some cases, the lower popularity does mean you'll be able to get them more easily, or at a less inflated price. (At my local Best Buy, the 1080s were the only ones consistently in stock on the shelves.)


1060s, 1070s, and 1080tis are pretty good. The important thing to consider here is rig density.

With some fixed number of slots, you can make better use of them with 1080ti cards rather than 1060s. However, the 1080ti usually does not offer the same individual price/performance ratio that you can get with 1060s. For example, I can get 3GB 1060s for around $200-$210 after hunting around. A 1080ti would cost me at least $700, and it does not mine at triple the rates of 3GB 1060s on any algorithm I'm interested in. (For example, I can get about 300 H/s mining Zcash with each 1060. I haven't seen many reported hashrates for a 1080ti that exceed 750-800, at best.)

With 1060s, you're getting a smaller overall rig hashrate for the motherboard/CPU/ram/etc. that you got to support the GPUs, so that's what can start to mess with the overall price/performance ratio when compared to 1080ti cards.


Another thing to consider is resale value. A 1080ti will most likely retain its usefulness for longer than 1060s, assuming you maintain them just as well.


You are right on card performances, but for the rig building cost, you should make it like: 1 rig of 6 cards 1080Ti need only 2 PSU 850W + 1 CPU +1 MB + 1 RAM..... while 3 rig of 6 cards 1060 need 3 PSU 850W + 3 CPU, 3 MB + 3 RAM... The peripherals' price is not cheap Cheesy

For me, 1080 Ti is a good deal but I'm just started with a small budget, so I'm going with 1070.


I'd say you're definitely skimping on the PSUs there, especially for 24/7 operation, and even after messing with clock & power settings.
I can confirm 6 1080 Ti with 2 850W PSUs have no problem.
for a 6x 1080ti build, assuming undervolted, what is total system wattage?
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October 05, 2017, 02:09:34 PM
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For example  , I got  gtx 1060  6GB  Samsung memory , powerlimit  73   memory overclocked to  4780MHz  GPU downclocked to  1400MHz   ETH mining  24,9 MH/s     , GPU 1870MHz  Mem, stock  ZEC mining   310 Sol/s
the same card with  hynix memory   after oc  21 MH/s  ETH   285 Sol/s  ZEC.
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October 05, 2017, 01:20:48 PM
#39
sorry, what is the ETH hashrate for 1080ti?

 Ballpark 35 Mhash/sec depending on where you can get the clocks to be stable at.

 ETH is a VERY bad choice for both the 1080 and the 1080ti, as GDDR 5x latency apparently has a bad impact on ETH hashrate compared to the GDDR 5 that the 1070 and below use.

 If the rumored 1070ti shows up with GDDR5, it might be the fastest ETH miner on the Green side - but will STILL not be competative with the Red side now that RX 470/480/570/580 prices have dropped back down to semi-close to sorta reasonable and availability is improving.
 I'm going to be VERY interested to see what it does on ZEC and the like where NVidia is strong - and what the final price turns out to be.





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October 05, 2017, 01:05:34 AM
#38
I use 1070. Good power and quite economical. Good investment.
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October 04, 2017, 11:36:06 PM
#37
Of all these cards, I choose 1050ti
Cheaper than all, you can collect a lot of farms, and if you take a good card, you can get 15-16 mh/s
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October 04, 2017, 09:34:58 PM
#36
sorry, what is the ETH hashrate for 1080ti?
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October 04, 2017, 04:01:04 PM
#35
In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options. However, in some cases, the lower popularity does mean you'll be able to get them more easily, or at a less inflated price. (At my local Best Buy, the 1080s were the only ones consistently in stock on the shelves.)


 The 1080 is mostly not popular due to it's high price - but for many algorithms it is very competative on hash/$ (just not on ETH which is what the majority of miners are interested in).

 It's a particularly good choice on ZEC and ZEN and the other spinoffs of ZEC, where it is a tossup on hash/watt AND hash/$ with ANY other GPU model (including the 1070 and 1080ti).


 This will change if AMD card pricing on the RX series drops much more, especially if those cards ever get back down to "close to MSRP" pricing.


 3x1080ti on a single 850 (even a GOOD one like the EVGA G2 850 or the Seasonic X850) will work reliably if you turn the TDP down far enough, but it hurts hashrate noticeably to do so which is a definite MINUS if you have a low electric cost.

 You are also leaving yourself a lot fewer options on possible future coins that might be efficient at higher power settings.


 The Gigabyte 1070 Gaming G1 has a TDP of 180 watts - that's 75 from the PCI-E bus, 105 from a PCI-E 8-pin connector that even the PCI-E SPEC allows up to 150 watts of draw from.
 You'd need to push it up past 225 watts to need a second power connector, per the PCI-E specs.

 The MSI 1070 card that has 2 power connectors is RATED for a 240 watt TDP (I've got one of those) - but I've never had it get much over 200 even PUSHING it, and the cooling won't handle MUCH more than 200 on that card without GPU overheating issues unless you have a VERY cool ambient temp and a LOT of airflow around the card.



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October 04, 2017, 09:32:12 AM
#34
3gb cards have a problem or will very soon with the Etherium DAG file size don't they?

My numbers were for the 6 GB version.



Those 3GB cards still have a estimated 1 year lifetime to mine ETH
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October 04, 2017, 08:11:38 AM
#33
In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options.
It is very popular myth. Thanks to it 1080 are more cost effective than 1070/1060.


1080 535/sec
Amazon cost  $550
Rate/cost .97

How do you figure?
1080 is generally 20-30% faster than 1070. If it cost <20% more than it is more effective.
There are 3 algo in which 1080 performs bad, even worse than 1070. But there are a lot of other algos.
E.g. neoscrypt:
1060 - 900+
1070 -1100+
1080 -1100
1060 is clear winner here .... if you won't look at amd side  Grin

1060@6Gb with the best miner have currently 750 in neoscrypt, 1070 -1200 and 1080ti 1500. I have 1060@6gb, 1070 is too much better in the relation cost/benefit
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October 04, 2017, 06:49:59 AM
#32
I love 1070 gigabyte g1 gaming , why have 1 only 8pin pciexpress , and is a great in overclock with less consumption .
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September 06, 2017, 02:15:32 AM
#31
I have 2 1070's but am waiting to upgrade to 1080ti's
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September 06, 2017, 01:36:47 AM
#30
i would use only 1080 , or 1080 ti
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