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Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 05:09:52 AM

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Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 04:56:27 AM

You have to as you are trying to bring new money into your quickly drying out money supply.

I have data that suggests otherwise Cheesy

All right then, enjoy the ride and your sustainable operation until you can.

We have seen that before, even in crypto, (remember Bitpay and Mintpal), that the scammers like yourself felt invincible, but then the end still came in one form or other. I predict in your case it will be in the form of law enforcement. That's for sure, with your shady IPO and asset nonsense you provide law enforcement with an endless material to press charge against all fuckers who benefits from the operation.

I don't remember Bitpay or Mintpal, 1-3 month affairs with the central guys running off with the money at the first sign of trouble I'd wager?

Quote from: Daedelus on April 09, 2015, 04:39:48 AM

*snip*... please provide evidence that I am "a well known scammer" and where I have been selling anything "really really hard". Thanks for your time Cheesy

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Quote from: Daedelus on April 09, 2015, 05:00:13 AM

Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 04:56:27 AM

You have to as you are trying to bring new money into your quickly drying out money supply.

I have data that suggests otherwise Cheesy

All right then, enjoy the ride and your sustainable operation until you can.

We have seen that before, even in crypto, (remember BitBay and Mintpal), that the scammers like yourself felt invincible, but then the end still came in one form or other. I predict in your case it will be in the form of law enforcement. That's for sure, with your shady IPO and asset nonsense you provide law enforcement with an endless material to press charge against all fuckers who benefits from the operation.

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Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 05:01:42 AM

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Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 04:50:02 AM

One thing is sure, the new money is drying out quite apparently and therefore how hopeless NXT is will be obvious for everyone very soon.

Any ETA? I have been seeing "(very) soon" for a whole year already.

No, what you have been seeing in the last few months is that your ponzi being collapsing and therefore you are trying really-really hard to keep the operation alive.

Links to support this? Wink

Why are you ignoring my posts, does the truth hurt?

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on April 09, 2015, 04:54:26 AM

Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 04:50:02 AM

One thing is sure, the new money is drying out quite apparently and therefore how hopeless NXT is will be obvious for everyone very soon.

Any ETA? I have been seeing "(very) soon" for a whole year already.

No, what you have been seeing in the last few months is that your ponzi being collapsing and therefore you are trying really-really hard to keep the operation alive.

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Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 04:56:27 AM

You have to as you are trying to bring new money into your quickly drying out money supply.

~~Proof?~~ Links? I have data that suggests otherwise Cheesy

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Yer, ideas starting with those that believe in them, nurture them, provide value to people's lives and then profiting from them are blatant scams. Damn you Bill Gates Angry

Why didn't you just fail instead of changing the world. Curses!

There are very few proven scammers in crypto. An obvious on is UtopianFuture in NEM, he defrauded hundreds of people and scammed them out of tens of thousands of dollars. It is a matter of historical record. They claim to have removed all his sockpuppets but the insiders could easily have overlooked his sockpuppet stakes (and their own, if they were so inclined as their associate).

Come-from-Beyond proposed a way for them to check this independently but they refused. They won't even name the insider who named a list of of accounts he said were sockpuppets, then they took a centralized decision to wipe them out of the genesis block and keep the stakes uncirculated. They could have rewarded the loyal followers with higher stakes.

Why weren't you objecting to the two month 'IPO' when Nxt was just an idea, with no money or backers? You talk as though Nxt was a sure thing to make everyone millions. It is quite flattering actually.

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Quote from: achimsmile on April 09, 2015, 04:41:05 AM

Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 04:30:47 AM

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Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 04:07:19 AM

...handful NXT founders who created the original 73 shill accounts doesn't change...

Links?

FYI, after two months there were ~103 who were actually eligible for a stake but who didn't bother to claim it. I guess that is Nxt's fault too.

Fuck off with your requests about links, all right? I am a very patient and polite man, but when a well know scammer like yourself who has been promoting a well know scam asking from me evidence instead of providing evidence that the operation is not a scam then that is quite irrational, don't you think?

Send me a link about where your fucking useless NXT assets - that you have been selling really-really hard to newbies, idiots and naive investors - used in real world, and then we continue talking about why sensible people are sceptical about your countless vapourwares and fantasy projects (I give it you it is not a fantasy from your viewpoint as you scam people for real money, but terms of use cases the projects/assets are in fantasy land)

In dubio pro accusator, sounds legit.
thank you for your competent opinion.

That's what I thought. Since you don't have any evidence whatsoever that your NXT and so called assets used by anyone in real world business or by any real world use cases you are talking bollocks and nonsense.

You have to as you are trying to bring new money into your quickly drying out money supply.

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Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 04:50:02 AM

One thing is sure, the new money is drying out quite apparently and therefore how hopeless NXT is will be obvious for everyone very soon.

Any ETA? I have been seeing "(very) soon" for a whole year already.

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Quote from: achimsmile on April 09, 2015, 04:35:55 AM

@altcoinUK: Why didn't you want to be one of the "handful" founders? The IPO was open for everyone.

Oh dear, the usual argument that "you could join to the scam as well". No thanks, I am not interested in invest in scams, never been and trying to stay away from scams and nonsenses like NXT and its associated bollocks like Supernet.

The fact that the IPO was opened to anyone in 2013 obviously doesn't undo the scam. The fact that the early participants benefits from an operation cannot make a scam legit - quite opposite, this is one of the main attributes of a scam/ponzi. Early participants naturally benefit from any scams/ponzies and for later participants there is a real incentive to bring new money into the project from idiots and newbies - that's what happening now with NXT.

One thing is sure, the new money is drying out quite apparently and therefore how hopeless NXT is will be obvious for everyone very soon.

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Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 04:32:34 AM

Quote from: TaunSew on April 09, 2015, 04:19:58 AM

Now NxT is just trading their stolen money, back and forth, to create fake capitalization and volume.

Precisely, that's what happening, except the faked volume brings in some new money from newbies and idiots.

Links? Blockchain data would be good, so everyone can verify it.

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Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 04:30:47 AM

Quote from: Daedelus on April 09, 2015, 04:15:03 AM

Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 04:07:19 AM

...handful NXT founders who created the original 73 shill accounts doesn't change...

Links?

FYI, after two months there were ~103 who were actually eligible for a stake but who didn't bother to claim it. I guess that is Nxt's fault too.

Fuck off with your requests about links, all right? I am a very patient and polite man, but when a well know scammer like yourself who has been promoting a well know scam asking from me evidence instead of providing evidence that the operation is not a scam then that is quite irrational, don't you think?

Send me a link about where your fucking useless NXT assets - that you have been selling really-really hard to newbies, idiots and naive investors - used in real world, and then we continue talking about why sensible people are sceptical about your countless vapourwares and fantasy projects (I give it you it is not a fantasy from your viewpoint as you scam people for real money, but terms of use cases the projects/assets are in fantasy land)

In dubio pro accusator, sounds legit.
thank you for your competent opinion.

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Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 04:30:47 AM

Quote from: Daedelus on April 09, 2015, 04:15:03 AM

Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 04:07:19 AM

...handful NXT founders who created the original 73 shill accounts doesn't change...

Links?

FYI, after two months there were ~103 who were actually eligible for a stake but who didn't bother to claim it. I guess that is Nxt's fault too.

Fuck off with your requests about links, all right? I am a very patient and polite man, but when a well know scammer like yourself who has been promoting a well know scam asking from me evidence instead of providing evidence that the operation is not a scam then that is quite irrational, don't you think?

Send me a link about where your fucking useless NXT assets - that you have been selling really-really hard to newbies, idiots and naive investors - used in real world, and then we continue talking about why sensible people are sceptical about your countless vapourwares and fantasy projects (I give it you it is not a fantasy from your viewpoint as you scam people for real money, but terms of use cases the projects/assets are in fantasy land)

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Fuck off with your requests about links, all right? I am a very patient and polite man,

I notice a contradiction... Cheesy

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asking from me evidence instead of providing evidence that the operation is not a scam then that is quite irrational, don't you think?

No, it is basic logic. You can't prove a negative. If I said "Prove green isn't green", you would say "It is up to you to prove green isn't green, you're making the claim. All evidence suggests the contrary, green is green".

It is up to you to prove something with evidence, as you're making the claim. But I don't think that is why you're here. Has there been too much good news in Nxt for you in the last couple of days? Wink

While researching the evidence, please provide evidence that I am "a well known scammer" and where I have been selling anything "really really hard". Thanks for your time Cheesy

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I am amused to see this thread from 2013 getting revived over and over again with people claiming the same thing, always without evidence

@altcoinUK: Why didn't you want to be one of the "handful" founders? The IPO was open for everyone.

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=== NODE IS OK! ==

NXT has features. Bitcoin has nothing.
Jeff Garzik feeling threatened?

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Quote from: TaunSew on April 09, 2015, 04:19:58 AM

Now NxT is just trading their stolen money, back and forth, to create fake capitalization and volume.

Precisely, that's what happening, except the faked volume brings in some new money from newbies and idiots.

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Quote from: Daedelus on April 09, 2015, 04:15:03 AM

Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 04:07:19 AM

...handful NXT founders who created the original 73 shill accounts doesn't change...

Links?

FYI, after two months there were ~103 who were actually eligible for a stake but who didn't bother to claim it. I guess that is Nxt's fault too.

Fuck off with your requests about links, all right? I am a very patient and polite man, but when a well know scammer like yourself who has been promoting a well know scam asking from me evidence instead of providing evidence that the operation is not a scam then that is quite irrational, don't you think?

Send me a link about where your fucking useless NXT assets - that you have been selling really-really hard to newbies, idiots and naive investors - used in real world, and then we continue talking about why sensible people are sceptical about your countless vapourwares and fantasy projects (I give it you that it is not a fantasy from your viewpoint as you scam people for real money, but terms of use cases the projects/assets are in fantasy land)

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Quote from: TaunSew on April 09, 2015, 04:19:58 AM

Why did NXT have to steal many millions of dollars? Angry

Jeff Garzik (Bitcoin developer so I trust him) was right about NxT, this a huge scam. Angry

Now NxT is just trading their stolen money, back and forth, to create fake capitalization and volume. How do you stop this. Angry

Links? Blockchain data would suffice.

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Why did NXT have to steal many millions of dollars? Angry

Jeff Garzik (Bitcoin developer so I trust him) was right about NxT, this a huge scam. Angry

Now NxT is just trading their stolen money, back and forth, to create fake capitalization and volume. How do you stop this. Angry

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Quote from: altcoinUK on April 09, 2015, 04:07:19 AM

...handful NXT founders who created the original 73 shill accounts doesn't change...

Links?

FYI, after two months there were ~103 who were actually eligible for a stake but who didn't bother to claim it. I guess that is Nxt's fault too.

You can read the Nxt 'IPO' (IPO/ICO etc terms didn't exist then, it was a world where there were only ~35 coins on CMC) here, day by day post by post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-nxt-descendant-of-bitcoin-303898

(you can even see who some of the founders were, still active on BTT Cheesy

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Quote from: bronepoezd on March 23, 2015, 06:48:52 PM

NXT forum has very big community with many live projects, hard to believe this is a scam

Quote from: centauribit on March 17, 2015, 11:23:29 PM

Nope - NXT has a very active community .They actively develop very interesting projects

Quote from: Zer0Sum on March 23, 2015, 10:26:24 PM

Ya man, the NXT Forum gets 200 posts/day in 2015...
So it definitely is not a "total scam"... though there are assets on the AE that seem absurd.

And still, the fact that many idiots who believe in fairy tales and eagerly support the handful NXT founders who created the original 73 shill accounts doesn't change the fact that the whole operation is a completely useless initiative - except it is useful for the handful who are scamming out the shit from the crypto market.
After all, you could have the over 50 projects, assets - or you call the way you want to call the nonsenses appears around NXT -, but since no one use them in real world and in the meantime they are trying to sell the NXT idea really-really hard to newbies and naive users. and that makes the whole operation a scam.

Quote from: Zer0Sum on March 23, 2015, 10:26:24 PM

though there are assets on the AE that seem absurd.

Let me correct you about that: since the assets are not used in real world all of them are totally absurd.

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