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A single person behind multiple proxies.

I forgot what we have to vote for!

There are ways to consider the voting other than the two that have been outlined thus far, namely "1 Account = 1 Vote" and "1 NXT = 1 Vote".

The goal is "1 Human = 1 Vote" right, so here are some options to achieve or approximate that.

- Asset defined voting cards haven't been mentioned. (These can have a minimum fee to greatly reduce spam)
- Decentralised identification verification hasn't been mentioned. (Not necessarily for the entire network. Just particular groups/communities).
- Random sampling of voters hasn't been mentioned.
- Pre-voting hasn;'t been mentioned.
- Captchas havn't been mentioned.
- Random temporal voting hasn't been mentioned (you get 10 minutes to vote but at a random time for example. Logistically this would make managing multiple sock-puppet accounts difficult).
- Proof of Voter Education hasn't been mentioned (you must prove that you are educated on the topic which you are voting on for example).

All of these can use "1 Account = 1 Vote" at the protocol level. So leave it at that forever. Just like 1 NXT as a transaction fee at the protocol level is perfect. Other user-facing transaction fees can be handled by communities and DACs and off-chain payment processors etc. etc.

Please think beyond the protocol level. It will only make you dizzy to restrict your thinking that low. This is the year of emergent complexity within the wider cryptocurrency community - wake up to it and prepare yourself for it!

All you have to do to make it go away is to tell me a valid reason why you can't add 3 bytes per transaction, while simultaneously adding 1000-byte arbitrary messages

You're getting ahead of yourself.  First we have to create superior technology by any means necessary.  Then the technology will create freedom.  Trying to create superior technology through some kind of dreamed-up "free people" process is inefficient and counterproductive to your stated goal.



Exactly.  It's not going to happen.


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So you studied PolSci, and your conclusion is what this bloody planet has been fighting for equal rights for everyone, by mistaken ideas?
You should be able to distinguish feudalism when you see it, based on your studies mate.

A democracy is by definition the egalitarian system that ALLOWS a bum to have an equal say with a professor on subjects that would interfere with both their lives.
You are trying to tell us that a professor should always have more power than a bum?

Or are you trying to say that a professor in the classroom should have more power than a bum?

What did you mean by that? Did you mean that Pos will become obsolete soon?

Haha! It was really interesting on Thursday and Friday of last week: We were having this same discussion, then the value of NXT/BTC started to increase and everyone stopped talking about it.
 

Is that when BCNext reveals that he's Satoshi?
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BCNext could be one of the member of the Satoshi.
BUT i bet he is probably Sunny King experimenting on his modified POS system.

My guess 20% Satoshi 70% Sunny Kind King 10% Other AltCoin Dev.
He definitely has experience in cryptocurrency!

I predict that we will not be able to reach a consensus on how to reach consensus.

James

I want this on my wall.

ok, then please explain that.

I think with the development fund as low as it is you should consider setting up a Nigerian voting system. 1 nxt = 1 vote, but jl or cfb can tweak votes within the protocol to suit the means of any rich investors who want to contribute to the development kitty.

the lesson to be learned here is not to use voting for anything too important. its very good for something like figuring out what to do with the unclaimed funds and for bcnext to gauge the pulse of the community but ultimately we CAN NOT let decisions about the protocol be decided this way.

How about a hybrid system?

Merging both systems and giving them 50% power.

Number of "Yes" Votes/ Total Number of Votes = % Yes Votes
Number of NXT Voting "Yes" / Total Number of NXT Voting = % Yes NXT Votes
[% Yes Votes + % Yes NXT Votes] / 2 = Final % Yes Votes

omg what is going on here?

some muscle rolling JJJJJJJ.

calm down

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Yes but in these situation, it costs said manipulator NXT to do so. So instead of just giving away stake based voting ( I think I understand your rationale here) if people want to game the system, we make them buy it. You can only create N/2 accounts based on your holdings. You can only create N/4 accounts if you want all of the NXT back in one easy place.  

This is easy, the vote must be proportional to the amount of nxtcoin for the holder, any other system will be easily manipulated. And people are saying this will be a rich mans club, but there are drawbacks to any system. Those with the most nextcoin have the most vested interest in the coin and therefore deserve to have more voting power. The problem with modern democracy today is every idiot is allowed to vote. I actually believe that democratic systems of government will be severely restricted or abolished in the west in the future because the average citizen are getting more and more stupid. The golden age for enlightened democracy was in Greece in city states with only 10k people. Someone should set up two different systems so you guy can see how easily the everyones equal voting system will be manipulated and the decisions will be more stupid than the proportional voting system.

This is a large topic in political science which I have studied and my conclusion is that for the system to come to wise decisions there must be a difference in voting power based on the wealth of participants or else you get to many idiots, resembling modern mass democracy where a professor is equal to a bum.

Many people here are adamant egalitarians, but there has to be a balance, one needs some elitism as well.  

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4628002

Please explain.