Do you need a german translation for a NXT Articel?
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now we have 9 translators into the german language, I added you to the list:PN me.
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Topic: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 1551. (Read 2761645 times)
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Marcus03, was your intention to have it closed from the very beginning? If yes, I had misunderstood it completely.
Ok, in this this case I offer to develop 2 clients both Windows and OS X, both open source. My tools of choice would be Embarcadero FireMonkey. Language either Delphi or C++ Builder.
Would community be interested in this?
Ok, in this this case I offer to develop 2 clients both Windows and OS X, both open source. My tools of choice would be Embarcadero FireMonkey. Language either Delphi or C++ Builder.
Would community be interested in this?
I agree with Marcus03 ... you can do it. Marcus03 and i doing our clients without any rewards.
dotNXT (my client implementation) will be open source but not at this moment.
Marcus03 have done a really good job on making the nice looking client which uses the original client. I do not understand why are you trying to push him to open the source.
Isn't it Marcus03's right not to open the source?
I'm fine with his explanation. Also it's better not to open the source until April at least. With Nexern's client too.
Maybe CFB or other core programmer can check the code and approve it? Then we all can use the client.
Do you need a german translation for a NXT Articel?
PN me.
PN me.
Closed source third party clients are a major no go. Anyone saying the nrs is closed source to justify going closed source themselves is bs as the nrs can be fully decompiled and reviewed.
This is a total non-starter. We are talking about peoples money here and potentially very large amounts of it. Any closed source third party clients should absolutely not be given any type of endorsement and should be met with a heavy warning at every opportunity. Also if anyone received bounties for their client and the source code is not to be released they have a moral obligation to return those bounties unless it was explicitely stated before receiving them.
This is a total non-starter. We are talking about peoples money here and potentially very large amounts of it. Any closed source third party clients should absolutely not be given any type of endorsement and should be met with a heavy warning at every opportunity. Also if anyone received bounties for their client and the source code is not to be released they have a moral obligation to return those bounties unless it was explicitely stated before receiving them.
+1
Can you distribute the third party components as compiled libraries, and re-engineer your client to not need changes to those libraries? (And release it open source)
You still would not be able to see what is in the compiled libraries... From a security perspective I don't see how this is better.
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Is your intention to charge for your client, or distribute it for free?
I have no plans to ever charge for my client.
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If free, then rather than look at it as 'copycats copying it', see it as community development with you as the dev lead to ultimately make a better client?
Being the person I am, I have no intrest in being a dev lead in an open-source project.
Have it so the clients made by nexern, and some of the trusted posters become the "OFFICIAL" wallets, and the rest become "3rd party" or something like that.
Just an idea
Where i can have a look on nexern's client? Is it open source?
just giving an idea. Don't think nexern released anything yet.
Don't have time to re-read all 1000+ pages and what clients are being released by who and stuff...
Have it so the clients made by nexern, and some of the trusted posters become the "OFFICIAL" wallets, and the rest become "3rd party" or something like that.
Just an idea
Where i can have a look on nexern's client? Is it open source?
Not sure if people are aware but max withdrawl on BTER is only 200 NXT per day. So if you plan on buying or selling a lot just keep that in mind - hopefully they raise it. Maybe they're testing things still.
So where to buy in large quantity?
https://dgex.com
Nxt withdrawals may take up to 48 hours but Btc deposits take a couple minutes.
Not sure if people are aware but max withdrawl on BTER is only 200 NXT per day. So if you plan on buying or selling a lot just keep that in mind - hopefully they raise it. Maybe they're testing things still.
So where to buy in large quantity?
Right now Dgex, or the trading thread here are still the best places to buy in high volume.
I can't help but think that the goal of complete decentralization may be best served by agreeing on some initial centralization for a short period of time to establish a home website, official client, marketing plan etc..
Marcus03, was your intention to have it closed from the very beginning? If yes, I had misunderstood it completely.
Ok, in this this case I offer to develop 2 clients both Windows and OS X, both open source. My tools of choice would be Embarcadero FireMonkey. Language either Delphi or C++ Builder.
Would community be interested in this?
Ok, in this this case I offer to develop 2 clients both Windows and OS X, both open source. My tools of choice would be Embarcadero FireMonkey. Language either Delphi or C++ Builder.
Would community be interested in this?
I agree with Marcus03 ... you can do it. Marcus03 and i doing our clients without any rewards.
dotNXT (my client implementation) will be open source but not at this moment.
Marcus03 have done a really good job on making the nice looking client which uses the original client. I do not understand why are you trying to push him to open the source.
Isn't it Marcus03's right not to open the source?
Maybe should make it like how Bitcoin.org does it?
Where when you click on Getting Started with Bitcoin -> "Choose Your Wallet", it gives you a various assortment of "official" wallets like Bitcoin-qt, Multibit, and Armory while also linking to "Third Party" wallets and states "This wallet relies on a centralized service by default and requires a certain level of trust on a third party. This third party however does not control your wallet. Using backups and a strong password is always recommended when applicable." where you then click "OK, I UNDERSTAND".
Have it so the clients made by nexern, and some of the trusted posters become the "OFFICIAL" wallets, and the rest become "3rd party" or something like that.
Where when you click on Getting Started with Bitcoin -> "Choose Your Wallet", it gives you a various assortment of "official" wallets like Bitcoin-qt, Multibit, and Armory while also linking to "Third Party" wallets and states "This wallet relies on a centralized service by default and requires a certain level of trust on a third party. This third party however does not control your wallet. Using backups and a strong password is always recommended when applicable." where you then click "OK, I UNDERSTAND".
Have it so the clients made by nexern, and some of the trusted posters become the "OFFICIAL" wallets, and the rest become "3rd party" or something like that.
This is a very reasonable proposal.
Only software that has the source available for review should get full blessing. Closed clients should also be available for those who wish to use them, as long as it is made very clear that they may be taking a risk in doing so.
You can try to split single program into 2 parts and opened part should be compiled standalone.
We can't recommend your program until we verify that opened part passes key to closed only in one-way transformated form.
That's exactly what I am doing since version 1.3 of my client. My main executable uses a dynamic link library, the secret only lives in the dll and the dll makes all calls to NRS.
Source for the dll is included in my client download. If you have Delphi, you can review the code, compile it and run your own version of the dll.
Not sure if people are aware but max withdrawl on BTER is only 200 NXT per day. So if you plan on buying or selling a lot just keep that in mind - hopefully they raise it. Maybe they're testing things still.
So where to buy in large quantity?
where are the FBI calling the Devs of this coin?? 
I f*cked FBI and this is my official statement.
Nice
Now tell me why the fuck this coin doens have a normal wallet?
It is more secure this way?
Hi guys just arrived and you are discussing clients.
Marcus03, was your intention to have it closed from the very beginning? If yes, I had misunderstood it completely.
Marcus03, was your intention to have it closed from the very beginning? If yes, I had misunderstood it completely.
I always knew that I am not able to give out the full source code, yes. In the long run, I hope there will be APIs for all major OSes that don't need the NRS core and do everything that has to do with the secret.
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Ok, in this this case I offer to develop 2 clients both Windows and OS X, both open source. My tools of choice would be Embarcadero FireMonkey. Language either Delphi or C++ Builder.
Would community be interested in this?
Would community be interested in this?
Do it!
I am using 3rd party commercial components that I have the source code for, but I am not allowed to distribute them. I also made changes to their code. Nobody would be able to compile just my source code, so the only effect I see in giving out the code is that copycats would come along and make their version of my client.
You can try to split single program into 2 parts and opened part should be compiled standalone.
We can't recommend your program until we verify that opened part passes key to closed only in one-way transformated form.
If it is impossible - other clients are welcome, sorry.
Common guys, community paid 1,000,000 NXT on bounty for clients and now we gonna look for new clients,
think we have to solve this and get it sorted out. Be serious now
Ok, in this this case I offer to develop 2 clients both Windows and OS X, both open source. My tools of choice would be Embarcadero FireMonkey. Language either Delphi or C++ Builder.
Can't we look at all other cross platform clients and use Qt?
Btw, I think Java is cool. Don't know why we need alt clients
QT is coo. I did not suggest it because of lack of experience with it. But would consider this as well if no one else picks this up.
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