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Wait with bild.de 'til another major exchange jumps the ship.

We need a major EURO centric or Europe located exchange

Edit: Then we can cover the 3 major currencies.

NXT is likely to be added to this shortly - http://cryptokopen.eu/. It's a start.

Justcoin (https://justcoin.com/en/) might be a good European exchange to contact.
legendary
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From ur orderbook:


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need more orders on my awesome orderbook guys, check it out, place some orders, fill some orders, leave some feedback. Anything helps

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuZ9UiDk97ajdFQtdHN2RElUQU10NjdqRUNkWm5uUlE#gid=0

How do I fill/place an order there?!
The sheet is not editable!

comment in the thread. link at the top

Done!
Thanks! Wink


legendary
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need more orders on my awesome orderbook guys, check it out, place some orders, fill some orders, leave some feedback. Anything helps

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuZ9UiDk97ajdFQtdHN2RElUQU10NjdqRUNkWm5uUlE#gid=0

How do I fill/place an order there?!
The sheet is not editable!

comment in the thread. link at the top
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 504
Hey,

what do you mean exactly with review and articels?
Do i get the NXT when i promote NXT on Big german forums too?
Where are over 100k Users?

Second Question.
When i can make it that the biggest german News Site (100 million too 1 billion clicks in a month) write about NXT (bild.de), how much NXT do i get?
We would have to vote about this. I had an idea and I created this table. We can vote about - how much Nxt could we spend on 1 article... I would like to use the fund to pay for original articles + there should be always some group corrections (context, facts, grammar).

(I think only Nxters with huge experience can create good articles about Nxt, that's why I would prefer translations)

We would probably create the text and you would translate it then. After the publishing we would visit your article and put there also some comments. Many of us know the german language... So now I cannot give you any numbers, just one promise - I will do my best to get to this stage:

ifightformerkel: I want to publish a german article.

salsacz (+ others): OK, if you translate this text, you get 1000 Nxt. If you publish it in the site with a lot of visiters, you could get 3000 Nxt. - from the unclaimed coins fund. But we will have to vote about it, this will not be a decision of one man.

Also anyone from the Nxt community could pay you too from his own funds.

review = scientific review of the product, by your own words...
legendary
Activity: 2184
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Wait with bild.de 'til another major exchange jumps the ship.

We need a major EURO centric or Europe located exchange

Edit: Then we can cover the 3 major fiat currencies.
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Client is really a con right now. I already imagine chinaman downloading the client via the link on BTER. He will unzip and wtf, that doesn't work right out of the package, what is dis crap  Cheesy

Why aren't third party clients posted on the main page of http://nxtcrypto.org yet? These were funded, so why not promote them?

Also, ideally we need an entire translation of the nxtcrypto.org site in chinese with a simple button at the top to change language.

Only with caution that they are not checked. Let's be honest, they still can contain malicious code. They were not checked properly.

Since they are not open source (?), this should be discussed before we post them on nxtcrypto.org.

the CHINESE LANGUAGE SHOULD BE DONE ASAP!

I wanted to use unclaimed coins to pay for translations, but people probably don't want to pay for marketing now:


more info:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4555477

Hey,

what do you mean exactly with review and articels?
Do i get the NXT when i promote NXT on Big german forums too?
Where are over 100k Users?

Second Question.
When i can make it that the biggest german News Site (100 million too 1 billion clicks in a month) write about NXT (bild.de), how much NXT do i get?

Wait with bild.de 'til another major exchange jumps the ship.
legendary
Activity: 866
Merit: 1002
Is anyone here running nxtcrypto forums? If so can I somehow "reset my password"?
I don't see link anywhere. I once found an contact e-mail somewhere, but my question was left without an answer.

I am going to readd this feature now.

well it looks like the option to change password (if you already know existing one) was already added.  to reset password required mail server to be configured for the box.  Im not the unix admin on that box so I cant do that.  I will ask BTC24 about this.

Any news on that?
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Activity: 238
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latest news: an exchange in China called bter will add Nxt to their platform

http://bter.com/article/12

Nice one
We construct an QQ(like skype) group and vote to bter that which to be added to their exchange platform,and the result is much better... Cheesy

Allwelder, can you make a chinese video with explanation of the clients from Marcus03 and minusbalancer?

if not I will make one, can you publisch on chinese media?

Pin
Yes,I will produce a video,but I did not use their client yet.
And may be I need to have a try.
If you can provide the video,that is better,and can save some time ,I am willing to publish on China media right now and promote it as more as possible.

wanna use any of my video?

http://wideo.co/view/1504591387756502643-nxt-generation-of-cryptocurrency

http://wideo.co/view/1302961386976944647-nxt-mining

http://wideo.co/view/1302961386354824506-nxt-generation-of-cryptocurrency

I can put there your sound, texts, etc

Those videos are great, and I had interest to translate and add subtitle weeks ago, however, those videos are mainly animation and there are no voice, so I gave up. Of course, I think most Chinese who are interested in Nxt at this early stage can read and understand those videos.

I don't see some videos with voice and sounds if I'm not missing something.


voice:
http://wideo.co/view/1504591387756502643-nxt-generation-of-cryptocurrency

Thanks! I will translate it and add subtitle in the following day.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1000
Client is really a con right now. I already imagine chinaman downloading the client via the link on BTER. He will unzip and wtf, that doesn't work right out of the package, what is dis crap  Cheesy

Why aren't third party clients posted on the main page of http://nxtcrypto.org yet? These were funded, so why not promote them?

Also, ideally we need an entire translation of the nxtcrypto.org site in chinese with a simple button at the top to change language.

Only with caution that they are not checked. Let's be honest, they still can contain malicious code. They were not checked properly.

Since they are not open source (?), this should be discussed before we post them on nxtcrypto.org.

the CHINESE LANGUAGE SHOULD BE DONE ASAP!

I wanted to use unclaimed coins to pay for translations, but people probably don't want to pay for marketing now:


more info:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4555477

Hey,

what do you mean exactly with review and articels?
Do i get the NXT when i promote NXT on Big german forums too?
Where are over 100k Users?

Second Question.
When i can make it that the biggest german News Site (100 million too 1 billion clicks in a month) write about NXT (bild.de), how much NXT do i get?
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
Client is really a con right now. I already imagine chinaman downloading the client via the link on BTER. He will unzip and wtf, that doesn't work right out of the package, what is dis crap  Cheesy

Why aren't third party clients posted on the main page of http://nxtcrypto.org yet? These were funded, so why not promote them?

Also, ideally we need an entire translation of the nxtcrypto.org site in chinese with a simple button at the top to change language.

Only with caution that they are not checked. Let's be honest, they still can contain malicious code. They were not checked properly.

Since they are not open source (?), this should be discussed before we post them on nxtcrypto.org.

the CHINESE LANGUAGE SHOULD BE DONE ASAP!

I wanted to use unclaimed coins to pay for translations, but people probably don't want to pay for marketing now:


more info:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4555477

My sense was that a 30% allocation to marketing was supported by a majority. 3 million NXT for marketing is on the low side, but better than nothing.

I hope everyone saw the result of a single small exchange adding NXT.

Just imagine how many more exchanges and websites will support NXT after the 3 million NXT marketing campaign.

James
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Not really. There are DACs and there are autonomous agents or DNAs (Decentralised NXT Agents). I agree that a strong definition of a DNA shouldn't involve consensus/voting. However, a Decentralised Autonomous Community is literally operating to support its community. They ought to have the ability to at least acknowledge or verify or oppose important decisions. The DAC could conceivably ignore any voting input if it "knows" based on its available data that its course of action is the optimal one.

This is artificial intelligence is it not?

Yes, but don't confuse that with Artificial General Intelligence AKA Strong AI - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_AI.
legendary
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Not really. There are DACs and there are autonomous agents or DNAs (Decentralised NXT Agents). I agree that a strong definition of a DNA shouldn't involve consensus/voting. However, a Decentralised Autonomous Community is literally operating to support its community. They ought to have the ability to at least acknowledge or verify or oppose important decisions. The DAC could conceivably ignore any voting input if it "knows" based on its available data that its course of action is the optimal one.

This is artificial intelligence is it not?
legendary
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Edit: For a crude test you could ignore the trustless/decentralised nature of a DAC and simply execute a standalone piece of code on 2 or more NXTers computers (i.e. they are already running the NXT client/daemon) which performs some action (like interrogates their balance for example) and get it to message back to your node/instance of the app (and every other node). The messaging could be internal or external to the NXT system. So this simple/pointless app lets everyone in that community (2 or 3 NXTers or however many) know the balance of each others accounts.

So, the DAC is opensource software that runs on people's computers
It uses NXT blockchain to store its actions in the blockchain using AM

This would allow for any language to be used to run the DAC, even C!
The realworld actions of the DAC would be done within the opensource code

The DAC would then be limited to actions that can be done via software. Actions like crypto transactions, including Asset Exchange would be possible.

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Does it need to be able to execute arbitrary general purpose programming code (c++ in your example)? Realistically aren't there only a number of core functions that a DAC or DNA would need to perform. We don't need to go all Turing Complete like Ethereum.

Yes it definitely would need to be able to execute arbitrary general purpose code. DACs would need to be able to compete with real humans making management decisions for their corporations. They never really would be able to but there inferiority in this respect would be countered by the fact that they would be immune to state coercion. Still even with the assistance of state immunity they would need every conceivable asset in their favor for them to stand a chance against human management. The blockchain would definitely need to be turing complete to stand a chance. We really need to be looking at filling the niche that eTherium is trying to capitalize on. We can and should do it better.

*edit* we can and should do it better on totally separate block chains so people who want to just use nxt dont risk downloading malware

There is one large advantage that NXT can have here - voting. A DAC in NXT will of course be governed by it's own rule-set but certain decisions relevant to the actions the DAC takes can be made by consensus too. You're then outsourcing the need for extremely powerful computational power of the DAC to the minds of the community members.

SEMI-AUTONOMOUS

that defeats the purpose. the semi part can be clubbed over the head by the government.

Not really. There are DACs and there are autonomous agents (like in Ethereum, I can see why these might need to be Turing Complete) AKA DNAs (Decentralised NXT Agents). I agree that a strong definition of a DNA shouldn't involve consensus/voting. However, a Decentralised Autonomous Community is literally operating to support its community. They ought to have the ability to at least acknowledge or verify or oppose important decisions. The DAC could conceivably ignore any voting input if it "knows" based on its available data that its course of action is the optimal one.
legendary
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I wanted to use unclaimed coins to pay for translations, but people probably don't want to pay for marketing now:


more info:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4555477

THAT IS MARKETING
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1000
Does it need to be able to execute arbitrary general purpose programming code (c++ in your example)? Realistically aren't there only a number of core functions that a DAC or DNA would need to perform. We don't need to go all Turing Complete like Ethereum.

Yes it definitely would need to be able to execute arbitrary general purpose code. DACs would need to be able to compete with real humans making management decisions for their corporations. They never really would be able to but there inferiority in this respect would be countered by the fact that they would be immune to state coercion. Still even with the assistance of state immunity they would need every conceivable asset in their favor for them to stand a chance against human management. The blockchain would definitely need to be turing complete to stand a chance. We really need to be looking at filling the niche that eTherium is trying to capitalize on. We can and should do it better.

*edit* we can and should do it better on totally separate block chains so people who want to just use nxt dont risk downloading malware

There is one large advantage that NXT can have here - voting. A DAC in NXT will of course be governed by it's own rule-set but certain decisions relevant to the actions the DAC takes can be made by consensus too. You're then outsourcing the need for extremely powerful computational power of the DAC to the minds of the community members.

SEMI-AUTONOMOUS

that defeats the purpose. the semi part can be clubbed over the head by the government.

Semi part == community consensus via Voting system.
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 504
Client is really a con right now. I already imagine chinaman downloading the client via the link on BTER. He will unzip and wtf, that doesn't work right out of the package, what is dis crap  Cheesy

Why aren't third party clients posted on the main page of http://nxtcrypto.org yet? These were funded, so why not promote them?

Also, ideally we need an entire translation of the nxtcrypto.org site in chinese with a simple button at the top to change language.

Only with caution that they are not checked. Let's be honest, they still can contain malicious code. They were not checked properly.

Since they are not open source (?), this should be discussed before we post them on nxtcrypto.org.

the CHINESE LANGUAGE SHOULD BE DONE ASAP!

I wanted to use unclaimed coins to pay for translations, but people probably don't want to pay for marketing now:


more info:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4555477
hero member
Activity: 1116
Merit: 535
need more orders on my awesome orderbook guys, check it out, place some orders, fill some orders, leave some feedback. Anything helps

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuZ9UiDk97ajdFQtdHN2RElUQU10NjdqRUNkWm5uUlE#gid=0

How do I fill/place an order there?!
The sheet is not editable!
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 504
latest news: an exchange in China called bter will add Nxt to their platform

http://bter.com/article/12

Nice one
We construct an QQ(like skype) group and vote to bter that which to be added to their exchange platform,and the result is much better... Cheesy

Allwelder, can you make a chinese video with explanation of the clients from Marcus03 and minusbalancer?

if not I will make one, can you publisch on chinese media?

Pin
Yes,I will produce a video,but I did not use their client yet.
And may be I need to have a try.
If you can provide the video,that is better,and can save some time ,I am willing to publish on China media right now and promote it as more as possible.

wanna use any of my video?

http://wideo.co/view/1504591387756502643-nxt-generation-of-cryptocurrency

http://wideo.co/view/1302961386976944647-nxt-mining

http://wideo.co/view/1302961386354824506-nxt-generation-of-cryptocurrency

I can put there your sound, texts, etc

Those videos are great, and I had interest to translate and add subtitle weeks ago, however, those videos are mainly animation and there are no voice, so I gave up. Of course, I think most Chinese who are interested in Nxt at this early stage can read and understand those videos.

I don't see some videos with voice and sounds if I'm not missing something.


voice:
http://wideo.co/view/1504591387756502643-nxt-generation-of-cryptocurrency
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