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sr. member
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I am using 3rd party commercial components that I have the source code for, but I am not allowed to distribute them. I also made changes to their code. Nobody would be able to compile just my source code, so the only effect I see in giving out the code is that copycats would come along and make their version of my client.

Can you distribute the third party components as compiled libraries, and re-engineer your client to not need changes to those libraries? (And release it open source)

Is your intention to charge for your client, or distribute it for free? If free, then rather than look at it as 'copycats copying it', see it as community development with you as the dev lead to ultimately make a better client?

legendary
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well, this makes a convincing case for using python and PyQt - highly performant, but easily verified because python is not compiled..
full member
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Be constructive. Open source is no possible way for my client. What is needed so that my client can be trusted, when you do trust your OS, your browser and NRS.

Seriously, ask for it and I'll try to deliver.

I trust many people that already tested my OS and my browser.
I do not have NRS on my local machine, only at VPSs that are used only for Nxt. I use multiple VPS providers but use NRS only at Amazon because they don't care about Nxt and "I trust many people that already tested it".

Given that you only use open source software and given that you made sure that the version that was reviewed by others is actually what makes the compiled version that you are using, you still trust the NRS NXT core, which is not fully open-source.

What does it need that you trust my client the same as you trust the NRS NXT core?
hero member
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Nxt-kit developer
I am using 3rd party commercial components that I have the source code for, but I am not allowed to distribute them. I also made changes to their code. Nobody would be able to compile just my source code, so the only effect I see in giving out the code is that copycats would come along and make their version of my client.

You can try to split single program into 2 parts and opened part should be compiled standalone.
We can't recommend your program until we verify that opened part passes key to closed only in one-way transformated form.

If it is impossible - other clients are welcome, sorry.
hero member
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Not sure if people are aware but max withdrawl on BTER is only 200 NXT per day. So if you plan on buying or selling a lot just keep that in mind - hopefully  they raise it. Maybe they're testing things still.
sr. member
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Solaris Windows Client
It can not be trusted. It's closed source.

So it can't be recommended. Definitely

What about the NRS client?

So there is a client but we cant use it?



for the most part ,we are all choosing  to just blindly trust Jean-Luc's "official" NRS releases.  though you can decompile and examine if you are savvy into that kind of thing.

However, actively promoting alternate clients must be handled VERY DELICATELY.  I would go so far as to say i dont really feel confortable promoting any alt clients on the nxtcrypto.org website unless the clients give a warning to the user about their source being closed, etc etc and that the users are actively choosing to trust the developer.  

This is aa very tough one.  Im definitely NOT going to make the call on my own.

Maybe should make it like how Bitcoin.org does it?

Where when you click on Getting Started with Bitcoin -> "Choose Your Wallet", it gives you a various assortment of "official" wallets like Bitcoin-qt, Multibit, and Armory while also linking to "Third Party" wallets and states "This wallet relies on a centralized service by default and requires a certain level of trust on a third party. This third party however does not control your wallet. Using backups and a strong password is always recommended when applicable." where you then click "OK, I UNDERSTAND".

Have it so the clients made by nexern, and some of the trusted posters become the "OFFICIAL" wallets, and the rest become "3rd party" or something like that.  Huh

Just an idea Tongue
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Nxt-kit developer
Ok, in this this case I offer to develop 2 clients both Windows and OS X, both open source. My tools of choice would be Embarcadero FireMonkey. Language either Delphi or C++ Builder.

Can't we look at all other cross platform clients and use Qt?
Btw, I think Java is cool. Don't know why we need alt clients
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As long as it is safe i see no problem....windows isn;t quite open but we all use it

"We" for windows -> millions
"We" for [alt nxt client] -> author + FFF + some random guys

Be constructive. Open source is no possible way for my client. What is needed so that my client can be trusted, when you do trust your OS, your browser and NRS.

Seriously, ask for it and I'll try to deliver.

Why it's not possible?

I am using 3rd party commercial components that I have the source code for, but I am not allowed to distribute them. I also made changes to their code. Nobody would be able to compile just my source code, so the only effect I see in giving out the code is that copycats would come along and make their version of my client.
sr. member
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go go NXT!!! lol Tongue

Seen the price on coinmarketcap a few hours ago and was wondering what the sudden price surge was for Smiley
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I'm not sure whether nxtcrypto.org is open source. One suggestion for nxtcrypto.org is to open source of the website, so more users can contribute to the website. Just have a reference from Peercoin.net, here is their github page: https://github.com/super3/Peercoin.net/issues?state=open



interesting, ill loop QBTC in here on this
full member
Activity: 238
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Solaris Windows Client
It can not be trusted. It's closed source.

So it can't be recommended. Definitely

What about the NRS client?

So there is a client but we cant use it?



for the most part ,we are all choosing  to just blindly trust Jean-Luc's "official" NRS releases.  though you can decompile and examine if you are savvy into that kind of thing.

However, actively promoting alternate clients must be handled VERY DELICATELY.  I would go so far as to say i dont really feel confortable promoting any alt clients on the nxtcrypto.org website unless the clients give a warning to the user about their source being closed, etc etc and that the users are actively choosing to trust the developer.  

This is aa very tough one.  Im definitely NOT going to make the call on my own.
sr. member
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Waiting for over 2 hours to deposit nxt to bter  Undecided
member
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NXT/CNY and NXT/BTC now traded on bter and data already on cryptocoincharts Wink
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/v2/markets/show/bter
-> NXT is under the top 3 trading pairs!

And NXT/BTC pair is the top trading pair no_fiat / BTC   Wink
newbie
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As long as it is safe i see no problem....windows isn;t quite open but we all use it

"We" for windows -> millions
"We" for [alt nxt client] -> author + FFF + some random guys

Be constructive. Open source is no possible way for my client. What is needed so that my client can be trusted, when you do trust your OS, your browser and NRS.

Seriously, ask for it and I'll try to deliver.

Hi guys just arrived and you are discussing clients.

Marcus03, was your intention to have it closed from the very beginning? If yes, I had misunderstood it completely.

Ok, in this this case I offer to develop 2 clients both Windows and OS X, both open source. My tools of choice would be Embarcadero FireMonkey. Language either Delphi or C++ Builder.

Would community be interested in this?

legendary
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I leave for a couple hours to go skiing and Nxt is now on multiple exchanges and growing like crazy.  Let's keep her going!
sr. member
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Congrats NXT @ Bter.com!
legendary
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Sent you some.

You are too kind, tyvm Smiley

No worries, try a few features, Alias, Messaging, if you like it I'll send you some more.
legendary
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Finally bought some NXT! Only 940 as that's all I could afford.

So to forge you need to leave the web browser on with the lock unlocked?

Is there a way to leave it unlocked for forging for when the PC starts up? So I don't have to open browser and login each time?

Final question: is it even worth leaving it unlocked with that little NXT?

You can start the client, open browser, unlock account, then close browser with account unlocked.  As long as your CMD is running, you will be forging.  It's definitely worth forging with Transparent Mining, but there will be new features added, like forging pools, where you can just have your Nxt join a pool without ever leaving your account or giving up your passcode, really innovative stuff.  If you shut off your computer, you will no longer be forging, and same goes with restarting your computer.  I just leave my computer running 24/7 since it's a node.  You can also run your client on R Pi machines.
hero member
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NXT/CNY and NXT/BTC now traded on bter and data already on cryptocoincharts Wink
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/v2/markets/show/bter
-> NXT is under the top 3 trading pairs!
legendary
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