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Topic: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 1646. (Read 2761645 times)

legendary
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Illegal content.....that is a problem whether the fee is 1nxt or 10 nxt

True, but the magnitude of the problem may differ. We shouldn't just ignore it and hope it goes away.


That's what I am talking about. If there is no solution, all these apps and promotions is a waste of time.

should we shut down the internet too
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 268
Internet of Value
Not to anyone in particular. Could people refrain from posing such blah blah blah ? or are we destined to evolve into a such WOW community ? Please more real works and real thoughts to push NXT ahead instead. Competition would be fierce in this industry and we can't better such player as Ethereum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4524703 if we are not trying our best.

peace,

Up

I read only every 2nd post. U could do the same.

NXT-ers are like guerrilla compared to organized army such as Ethereum, Mastercoin.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 260
Illegal content.....that is a problem whether the fee is 1nxt or 10 nxt

True, but the magnitude of the problem may differ. We shouldn't just ignore it and hope it goes away.


That's what I am talking about. If there is no solution, all these apps and promotions is a waste of time.
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1000
@ CfB

Can we reduce only 1 type of transaction fee (i.e Message Fee) or do we have to reduce all the transaction fee?




Interesting idea. What would be the consequences for the network, if we would overload it with thousands of messages per minute?

there is currently a limit  4 msg per second.


360,000 per 24 hours.


But that will be expanded to a few million within couple months
sr. member
Activity: 378
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Illegal content.....that is a problem whether the fee is 1nxt or 10 nxt

True, but the magnitude of the problem may differ. We shouldn't just ignore it and hope it goes away.
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1000

Illegal content.....that is a problem whether the fee is 1nxt or 10 nxt


If it's a problem, and there is no solution, sooner rather than later this will be used by competition to shut down NXT network. Alias and AM features should be disabled until solution is found.

we have discussed this issue on previous occasions...and i'm sure it will be solved but it's the same problem the internet has....i'm not smart enough to suggest any solutions for this one.

hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
@ CfB

Can we reduce only 1 type of transaction fee (i.e Message Fee) or do we have to reduce all the transaction fee?




Interesting idea. We still would have a nice fee for transactions (so the forgers get something for forging). But what would be the consequences for the network, if we would overload it with thousands of messages per minute?
member
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Yes, that's what I am saying. If, by lowering fees, we see a large increase in transactions, then it will be worth it to lower fees. The question is, will we see that large of an increase right now? If not, then it may be too early to do so.

That's my point we won;t see large transaction increases because someone is not gonna waste 1 Nxt just to send a simple msg.


the cheaper it is for the user the more they will use the service.....period.

Exactly my point, too.

Also, people like to communicate.
They love to send people chatter.

Give them the ability to do so, and I bet you that transactions will take off.
And Nxt is about transactions.

There is a feature that is usuable, so make it easy and cheap to use.
That's all I am saying.

Community should vote using the ... oh wait...  Kiss

I am for putting it to a vote. The poll will run for 1 week on both Nextcoin & Nxtcrypto.org forums.

I can organize the polls on both forums.



POLL QUESTION: SHOULD WE LOWER TRANSACTION FEE TO 0.01 Nxt?





Yes!
legendary
Activity: 2142
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Newbie
@ CfB

Can we reduce only 1 type of transaction fee (i.e Message Fee) or do we have to reduce all the transaction fee?




Community decides. Technically we can set different fees for different types.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
Not to anyone in particular. Could people refrain from posing such blah blah blah ? or are we destined to evolve into a such WOW community ? Please more real works and real thoughts to push NXT ahead instead. Competition would be fierce in this industry and we can't better such player as Ethereum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4524703 if we are not trying our best.

peace,

Up

I read only every 2nd post. U could do the same.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 260

Illegal content.....that is a problem whether the fee is 1nxt or 10 nxt


If it's a problem, and there is no solution, sooner rather than later this will be used by competition to shut down NXT network. Alias and AM features should be disabled until solution is found.
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1000
@ CfB

Can we reduce only 1 type of transaction fee (i.e Message Fee) or do we have to reduce all the transaction fee?


legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
Are you forging on both accounts through the same java process or is the latter account forging only?

Yes.

Yes... to which?   Cheesy

Sorry for the re-post... clear the fog CfB!   Wink

Both.

Edit: Both will be forging.
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 268
Internet of Value
Not to anyone in particular. Could people refrain from posing such blah blah blah ? or are we destined to evolve into a such WOW community ? Please more real works and real thoughts to push NXT ahead instead. Competition would be fierce in this industry and we can't better such player as Ethereum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4524703 if we are not trying our best.

peace,

Up
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
Alright the community opinion is strong enough Smiley It is coming to both Peerbet and Bit777.

VICTORY !!!
NXT COMMUNITY WON

Oh boy... time to kiss my precious NXT goodbye!  ROFLMAO!!!   Cheesy

ohoh...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nVk25ZvTkU
sr. member
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Merit: 253
I always wondered what the image is supposed to represent?

The way we will store Nxt blockchain in the future - DNA.

Hmmm "Sir what currency would you like your child inoculated with?"  Shocked
full member
Activity: 171
Merit: 100

Still, the voting by account has a large problem.

Take for example, stakeholder A with 1mil NXT and stakeholder B with 100 NXT. In order to increase their voting power to the fullest, they both will want to separate their account into many smaller ones with 1 NXT each.

For stakeholder A, initially making a new account will cost him 1/1000000 in fees, or 0.0001% of his holdings. The next account will take 1/999998 of his holdings, and so on.
For stakeholder B, initially making a new account will cost him 1/100 in fees, or 1% of his holdings. The next account will take 1/98 of his holdings, and so on.

So we can see that the small guy ends up paying more, percentage-wise, of his holdings just to maximize his voting power. This is why, imo, 1 NXT = 1 vote is the only fair way.

This is true.
I agree with you, splitting the account is very expensive.
And your description is the Best-Case for max. voting power.


Currently its more expensive for both.
You need to assume that a account with NXT = TX-fee is useless.
You have an deadlock. You have block your found until the fee becomes lower.
That means for small accounts there is no realistic base line to maximize voting power.

Currently splitting large accounts is very expensive cause decreasing forging power.
The voting has to be more profitable than forging.
Otherwise you need to pay the Tx fee 2 times.
And we don't forget, a profitable reason for voting will always attract many other participants ;-)
full member
Activity: 266
Merit: 100
NXT is the future

NXT with humanoid interference can not be perfect.

Pin

 Cheesy

ok, now we know that pinarello is the second account of CfB. Noone else says things like this... Cheesy

Or he has just been assimilated by the NXT Continuum

Every time I read something from CfB I hear the voice of Steven Hawking Cheesy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf2m35N3DJU


Pin
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 500
I always wondered what the image is supposed to represent?

Shanghai Tower

The Shanghai Tower 上海中心大厦 as a symbol for (re)emergence of China's economic and cultural influence on the world.

Apply that symbol of rise and aspirations to NXT in the cryptocurrency world.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1004
Here's a close-to-final Chinese flyer. Allwelder's info was added.

This will probably be the last piece I work on; calls for english brochure text have gone unanswered (except from Damelon), so there's little need, interest, etc etc.

I had an acquaintance do a Nxt writeup in Hindi and Gujarati, which I'll shelve until and Indian Nxt portal pops up.

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full size PDF
looks good.
the last sentence may be better like this:
而且:没有所谓的官方论坛,目前主要的论坛是:https://forums.nxtcrypto.org
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