- get a curve/sign implementation audit and a crypto audit. guys, where are we with that?
- try to summarize all we know about TF and discuss how to make it better
Topic: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 643. (Read 2761632 times)
So this is priority:
GUYS THEY ARE VOTING US DOWN...PLS VOTE ON REDDIT:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/1z2f4p/cryptocurrency_enthusiast_donates_1_million_nxt/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/1z2f4p/cryptocurrency_enthusiast_donates_1_million_nxt/
I suspect someone (it only takes one) didn't read my instructions where I clearly specify that you must not make duplicant accounts to try to cheat the system as reddit detects it and turns your upvotes into downvotes.
There is absolutely no other explanation. There is no way that the majority of this community would ever downvote such a post at all.
From now on reddit swarms is off the table, people are incapable of following instructions.
Or it could be certain anti-Nxt persons don't want this to spread....my simple 2 nxt.
Is TF fully implemented?
It's not. And won't be implemented by April, so u should do something if u don't want to live with half-implemented TF.
wtf. you talk like we do and try nothing here
Oh boy... can you imagine the PANIC/EXCITEMENT that will ensue if BCNext decided to post in this thread?
I thought TF would be fully implemented by April. What should we do to help?
Start with the analysis of the code that we already have and do some improvements to forging. For example, try to get how 90% defence would work (if it works at all).
I am not capable of this, as I am not smart enough, but am willing to donate to a fund to pay for someone (or a group of people) to do it.
Is anyone ready to manage this? I am working 60 hours a week (till Nxt´s price will reach $1) so I don´t have the time for this, but as I see, without this, all the marketing work (including the upvotes and the efforts to put Nxt on more exchanges) are useless.
I still would like to see a detailed roadmap of functions to get implemented till April.
I suggest to pay a for project manager to manage Nxt for the next 6 months to avoid double-spending resources and burning resources on functions that are not needed.
GUYS THEY ARE VOTING US DOWN...PLS VOTE ON REDDIT:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/1z2f4p/cryptocurrency_enthusiast_donates_1_million_nxt/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/1z2f4p/cryptocurrency_enthusiast_donates_1_million_nxt/
I suspect someone (it only takes one) didn't read my instructions where I clearly specify that you must not make duplicant accounts to try to cheat the system as reddit detects it and turns your upvotes into downvotes.
There is absolutely no other explanation. There is no way that the majority of this community would ever downvote such a post at all.
From now on reddit swarms is off the table, people are incapable of following instructions.
That is the missing transparency I was talking about one post earlier...
I see.
GUYS THEY ARE VOTING US DOWN...PLS VOTE ON REDDIT:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/1z2f4p/cryptocurrency_enthusiast_donates_1_million_nxt/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/1z2f4p/cryptocurrency_enthusiast_donates_1_million_nxt/
I thought TF would be fully implemented by April. What should we do to help?
Start with the analysis of the code that we already have and do some improvements to forging. For example, try to get how 90% defence would work (if it works at all).
Is TF fully implemented?
It's not. And won't be implemented by April, so u should do something if u don't want to live with half-implemented TF.
Ok, this is new to me. AFAIK it was planned to get implemented by April. That´s what we were waiting for. Now, 1 month left till April you tell us, that it won´t?
That is the missing transparency I was talking about one post earlier...
It was mentioned long ago by CFB that TF won't be ready by April.
I asked him specifically about this a month or so ago.
Just talked to bittrex, they have only 86 signups from nxt at the moment..
You should all go and sign up.
You should all go and sign up.
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Go to https://bittrex.com/Account/Register and use SUPPORT_NXT as the invite code. This gets you past the invite code queue. Place some trades, enabled 2FA, or try any of our other features to help us stress the site before the final launch. If you find a bug, we're handing out bug bounties as well. Having a great exchange helps us but also helps the NXT community.
done
Is TF fully implemented?
It's not. And won't be implemented by April, so u should do something if u don't want to live with half-implemented TF.
Ok, this is new to me. AFAIK it was planned to get implemented by April. That´s what we were waiting for. Now, 1 month left till April you tell us, that it won´t?
That is the missing transparency I was talking about one post earlier...
so i really like this motto "Ordo Ab Chao". should i let the fact that this motto is typically used by high ranking free masons stop me from putting it on my bars? i can just hear the conspiracy theories now 
*edit* i really think it perfectly represents everything that our movement stands for
*edit* i really think it perfectly represents everything that our movement stands for
well, it would be better to use the latin version "Ordo ab Chaos"
Is TF fully implemented?
It's not. And won't be implemented by April, so u should do something if u don't want to live with half-implemented TF.
I thought TF would be fully implemented by April. What should we do to help?
Is TF fully implemented?
It's not. And won't be implemented by April, so u should do something if u don't want to live with half-implemented TF.
With respect: this is a glib, bullshit answer, and you can't prove the "most of us" part any more than you can prove the "BCNext did math analysis" part.
Three months in and we have no Whitepaper, no documentation of algorithms, and no modelling or statistical analysis.
The greatest irony of the great decentralized Nxt Ecosystem is that its core is centralized in an opaque, anonymous identity who only communicates to the world through a Belarusan Java programmer on contract.
One day soon, Nxt will be called out for this. It is Nxt's biggest flaw.
He found the fatal flaw and he is right.
BCNext likes the path Satoshi chose... Probably he'll leave the project in a couple of months staying anonymous forever
(I would do the same thing btw.)
As for the documentation, algos, etc., I don't agree: NXT is already open sourced enough,... maybe BCNext gives us more features, maybe not...
The real problem is the lack of guys that can understand the code, not just java syntax but the crypto currency specific voodoo
We need to recruit successors - we need young BCNexts, little Come-from-Beyonds (figuratively speaking of course
)And we need whales that give them enough incentives (=payments) to develop full-time.
To me thats the biggest flaw!
No, like I said the last time when I brought this up: BCNext himself is responsible for the fact that the community has grown so dependent on him.
With all these plans that are to be rolled out etc. people just become apathic and wait for him and his developers to do everything.
He should've made a official statement regarding NXT now being in the hands of it's users a long time ago.
Thankfully Klee and a few other founders are still founding projects that keep NXT going, but we still need clarification on what sort of developers we are missing. How far along the features have come etc.
Wit due respect, I can´t understand why CfB and BCNext are waiting for the community to take leadership when "the big plan" is still secret. How do you want to have leaders in the community when they don´t know under what circumstances they have to lead the community as it can be, that the next part of "the big plan" makes all the efforts completely useless.
What I think:
a) BCNext (or CfB) should make a detailed, public roadmap, to see what is planned for the next few weeks, so we can arrange our resources to focus on things that are not coveed by the core developers.
b) more transparency is needed. The code is good, but even people with math skills are struggling understand how forging works.
c) one of the core developers should step up and attend conferences. It is not about decentralization hiding behind the code and letting others figure out how the core functions are working, but it is opacity that we have to fight now. I wouldn´t invest in Nxt now (if I didn´t do it earlier), to be honest, as I don´t see where it is heading and who is sitting in the driver´s seat.
With respect: this is a glib, bullshit answer, and you can't prove the "most of us" part any more than you can prove the "BCNext did math analysis" part.
Three months in and we have no Whitepaper, no documentation of algorithms, and no modelling or statistical analysis.
The greatest irony of the great decentralized Nxt Ecosystem is that its core is centralized in an opaque, anonymous identity who only communicates to the world through a Belarusan Java programmer on contract.
One day soon, Nxt will be called out for this. It is Nxt's biggest flaw.
He found the fatal flaw and he is right.
BCNext likes the path Satoshi chose... Probably he'll leave the project in a couple of months staying anonymous forever
(I would do the same thing btw.)
As for the documentation, algos, etc., I don't agree: NXT is already open sourced enough,... maybe BCNext gives us more features, maybe not...
The real problem is the lack of guys that can understand the code, not just java syntax but the crypto currency specific voodoo
We need to recruit successors - we need young BCNexts, little Come-from-Beyonds (figuratively speaking of course
)And we need whales that give them enough incentives (=payments) to develop full-time.
To me thats the biggest flaw!
No, like I said the last time when I brought this up: BCNext himself is responsible for the fact that the community has grown so dependent on him.
With all these plans that are to be rolled out etc. people just become apathic and wait for him and his developers to do everything.
He should've made a official statement regarding NXT now being in the hands of it's users a long time ago.
Thankfully Klee and a few other founders are still founding projects that keep NXT going, but we still need clarification on what sort of developers we are missing. How far along the features have come etc.
Then name me one person who fully understands those couple of hundred relevant lines of code...
BCNext likes the path Satoshi chose... Probably he'll leave the project in a couple of months staying anonymous forever
(I would do the same thing btw.)
As for the documentation, algos, etc., I don't agree: NXT is already open sourced enough,... maybe BCNext gives us more features, maybe not...
The real problem is the lack of guys that can understand the code, not just java syntax but the crypto currency specific voodoo
We need to recruit successors - we need young BCNexts, little Come-from-Beyonds (figuratively speaking of course)
And we need whales that give them enough incentives (=payments) to develop full-time.
To me thats the biggest flaw!
(I would do the same thing btw.)
As for the documentation, algos, etc., I don't agree: NXT is already open sourced enough,... maybe BCNext gives us more features, maybe not...
The real problem is the lack of guys that can understand the code, not just java syntax but the crypto currency specific voodoo
We need to recruit successors - we need young BCNexts, little Come-from-Beyonds (figuratively speaking of course
)And we need whales that give them enough incentives (=payments) to develop full-time.
To me thats the biggest flaw!
Cannot be said better than that!!!
The absolute truth! Just want to add that the bounties are focused on anything but development of services.
To get a real bounty a service developer needs to sort of beg, any developer that has some skills will just go and do other things and thats the biggest flow in Nxt.
I know this text will just vanish in the monster thread the same way some developers are vanishing from Nxt but I thought I say it
** Cryptsy Update **
I just heard back from Paul (met him at the Miami Bitcoin Conference), they are looking to implement Nxt in the next few weeks.
I talked with Big Vern @Skype and I introduced CfB to him - he said he will talk to Paul about it (to get help from CfB if needed).I just heard back from Paul (met him at the Miami Bitcoin Conference), they are looking to implement Nxt in the next few weeks.
Fantastic. I did a virtual introduction with all the different devs including CfB and Jean-Luc a few weeks ago as well... they have the resources, now it's just a matter of finding time to implement. Nxt keeps taking another step.
Let me make a suggestion to keep this ball rolling. We should ask the Cryptsy folks to document what was required to get NXT plugged into their system. Then we should turn right around to allwelder or some of the other Chinese NXT members and see that this info from Cryptsy gets communicated to BTX38.com in China. We need to be on both of these exchanges as soon as possible. It is the only way we are going to get exposure to a new pool of capital to buy NXT and get our exchange volume back up.
http://www.coin38.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1672
BTC38 choose coins from their database to put it into trading system.
So we need first to let Nxt be added into their database.
I have contact with them,there will be another vote recently.
So now,we first need to register on www.coin38.org,fill personal profile,prepare for the next voting for adding Nxt to their database.
Come on,Nexters.
I don't understand what I have to do here. Can you explain it more?
With respect: this is a glib, bullshit answer, and you can't prove the "most of us" part any more than you can prove the "BCNext did math analysis" part.
Three months in and we have no Whitepaper, no documentation of algorithms, and no modelling or statistical analysis.
The greatest irony of the great decentralized Nxt Ecosystem is that its core is centralized in an opaque, anonymous identity who only communicates to the world through a Belarusan Java programmer on contract.
One day soon, Nxt will be called out for this. It is Nxt's biggest flaw.
He found the fatal flaw and he is right.
BCNext likes the path Satoshi chose... Probably he'll leave the project in a couple of months staying anonymous forever
(I would do the same thing btw.)
As for the documentation, algos, etc., I don't agree: NXT is already open sourced enough,... maybe BCNext gives us more features, maybe not...
The real problem is the lack of guys that can understand the code, not just java syntax but the crypto currency specific voodoo
We need to recruit successors - we need young BCNexts, little Come-from-Beyonds (figuratively speaking of course
)And we need whales that give them enough incentives (=payments) to develop full-time.
To me thats the biggest flaw!
No, like I said the last time when I brought this up: BCNext himself is responsible for the fact that the community has grown so dependent on him.
With all these plans that are to be rolled out etc. people just become apathic and wait for him and his developers to do everything.
He should've made a official statement regarding NXT now being in the hands of it's users a long time ago.
Thankfully Klee and a few other founders are still founding projects that keep NXT going, but we still need clarification on what sort of developers we are missing. How far along the features have come etc.
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