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legendary
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Is there a way to make Nxt more anonymous? Or is it built-in? I see in the explorer you can see all the transactions... Jw

JL wrote a guide on how to use TOR with NXT
legendary
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Is there a way to make Nxt more anonymous? Or is it built-in? I see in the explorer you can see all the transactions... Jw

I don't think so
hero member
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Graviton will forge out of self interest, their business depends on it
NMAC will forge out of self interest, their business depends on it
AnonSilver will forge out of self interest, their business depends on it
'CfB enterprises' will forge out of self interest, their business depends on it


Nxt is taking aim at businesses ('wall street guys' in cfb talk). The features of Nxt will appeal to them and will hopefully come on board, if enough time is given to allow the devs to do their work. In a recent fudstorm, there were complaints about Nxt not being divisible.  They were told its in dev as we speak (not that they listened). Now we have nxtquants.


If you want to take a dig at nxt, go ahead. But give it time before you bang on about the same issues! At least a week, I'd say two  Grin Maybe post on the tech forum to find out how things are going. If you come back a day later, you won't be popular Roll Eyes

In the future, fingers crossed, Apple 2 will forge because it is... Google 3 will forge because it is... etc

Let's move on
sr. member
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I hate my family
Is there a way to make Nxt more anonymous? Or is it built-in? I see in the explorer you can see all the transactions... Jw
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Not sure how you managed to fit "poor Nxters" into that sentence...

A Bitcoin dev also admitted that Bitcoin will fail (following the current trend) if people don't run nodes. This is not a NXT-specific problem.

Also, many people forge, even those with small stakes. Forging isn't just for fees, forging secures your investment. So don't think this is an altruistic activity - there is an economic incentive. And then there are other ways to encourage forging and running nodes on top of that, such as businesses who need a robust network or nodecoin. Not to mention, forging is so cheap you can just leave it running in the background.

Honestly, you have a bad habit of blowing things in isolation out of proportion. No shit, NXT will die if no one forges. No shit, Bitcoin will die if no one mines or runs nodes. Ripple will die if no one runs their servers (or whatever they are called). Why don't you think of a way to provide an higher incentive to forge (either through economic incentive or some other method) instead of constantly crying wolf?

I agree BTC has the same issue, but it's much further in the future. I never said I was a big Bitcoin fan. It has many problems which is why I'd like to get into whatever will be better. I thought that would be Nxt but now I see it will be something else. Mining Bitcoin is MUCH more profitable than forging Nxt is so it's not a worry for many many years that people won't mine them. The fatal flaw with Nxt is that anyone not holding at least 100K Nxt will practically NEVER generate blocks, yet these same people will NEED to keep a program running on their machine 24/7 because if they don't,  in the words of BCNext, the network will become weaker and weaker (and ultimately fail or be attacked). This community's best answer so far to this problem: nodecoin.

Why would anyone trust a system with such a GAPING unknown variable at the core of the entire system? Since no one can know if enough people will run open nodes, then no one can know if it's even safe to use long term. It's a potential sitting duck. Financial markets need a certain degree of certainty and with Nxt there is a huge degree of uncertainty about something that the entire system's future depends on.

For the record I have made suggestions about how to incentivise people to run open clients. My idea was to have a  "jackpot"  built into the core that distributes a large sum to a random forger at a random time every day. If you are not forging you can't win it and since you don't know when it's coming you always have to forge to be eligible. You could take a tiny bit from the other transactions to compile this prize. The odds of winning would be pretty low but it would be enough incentive to make people run clients.
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Mining in Nxt relies on cooperation of people and even forces it. Without cooperation Nxt becomes weak and can be easily attacked. It's like a system in unstable equilibrium, if people stop to care about cooperation then Nxt will fail very fast.

The crux of most of my questioning has been in regards to one fact. There's a serious potential flaw that once Nxt is more widely distributed that if people don't "cooperate" ie: run an open client, the system will fail. This was clearly the subtext in BCNext's 3rd plan released appropriately on April Fools Day. He is clearly stating that Nxt won't work if poor Nxters don't forge. This was what I suspected for some time and now that it's confirmed, it makes a lot of sense why C-F-B gets so evasive when he's asked about these sorts of things. But pay no attention to the man behind the curtain or the big elephant in the room.  Everyone who is not a cheerleader is labeled a troll. Without questioning and gauging answers here I might have made a big mistake and stayed invested in it.

Not sure how you managed to fit "poor Nxters" into that sentence...

A Bitcoin dev also admitted that Bitcoin will fail (following the current trend) if people don't run nodes. This is not a NXT-specific problem.

Also, many people forge, even those with small stakes. Forging isn't just for fees, forging secures your investment. So don't think this is an altruistic activity - there is an economic incentive. And then there are other ways to encourage forging and running nodes on top of that, such as businesses who need a robust network or nodecoin. Not to mention, forging is so cheap you can just leave it running in the background.

Honestly, you have a bad habit of blowing things in isolation out of proportion. No shit, NXT will die if no one forges. No shit, Bitcoin will die if no one mines or runs nodes. Ripple will die if no one runs their servers (or whatever they are called). Why don't you think of a way to provide an higher incentive to forge (either through economic incentive or some other method) instead of constantly crying wolf?
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BrianNowhere: thank you for a tip Smiley
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I have seen nothing but negativity from the account named Briannowhere....pls leave us in peace.


Thank you.

That's because people notice the negative more than they do the positive. Of course people don't remember when you donate to songs of love or send nice tips to developers and important contributors, all of which I have done many times.

I have been critical but I've always tried to be fair
and present the facts as I know them and give people opportunities to answer. Most of the time I just get labeled as a concern troll. It's this criticism and questioning that has allowed me to see what the community is made of and to be frank I find it wanting. There are good people here who do good things but the overall attitude of the community is shit and I believe that will be reflected in the overall success of Nxt. It's insulated, isolated, elitist and dismissive towards "outsiders" who share concerns.

The crux of most of my questioning has been in regards to one fact. There's a serious potential flaw that once Nxt is more widely distributed that if people don't "cooperate" ie: run an open client, the system will fail. This was clearly the subtext in BCNext's 3rd plan released appropriately on April Fools Day. He is clearly stating that Nxt won't work if poor Nxters don't forge. This was what I suspected for some time and now that it's confirmed, it makes a lot of sense why C-F-B gets so evasive when he's asked about these sorts of things. But pay no attention to the man behind the curtain or the big elephant in the room.  Everyone who is not a cheerleader is labeled a troll. Without questioning and gauging answers here I might have made a big mistake and stayed invested in it.
sr. member
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I have seen nothing but negativity from the account named Briannowhere....pls leave us in peace.


Thank you.

Yes,please ignore him.Or just answer once telling him we dont care.
legendary
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I have seen nothing but negativity from the account named Briannowhere....pls leave us in peace.


Thank you.
legendary
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CEO Bitpanda.com
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Will there be hugs soon?
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Wtb lots of NXT
Only escrow!

I can do escrow if you want and find someone to take up your offer.

make sure he includes the fee when he sends you yours. Kept me waiting for hours by not including it for mine.

lol, why should i pay for the fee? I sent what was sent to me^^

remind me to never use you as escrow.  you as the middleman had certain responsibilities here


Yeah good idea. Use an escrow for free and expect him to pay the fee. Rofl, you guys seem to be delusional...

Dude, I offered to do it without escrow and to send first and suddenly you injected yourself into the whole deal as mr. big shot escrow man.
You could have at least told me up front you were sending sans fee and given me the opportunity to pay it myself so
I didn't have to sit around forever waiting for it to confirm.  

Get your facts straight, msin wanted an escrow. Also stop bitching about waiting for a transfer that will clearly confirm if you dont even spend the amount then....

This is such a kindergarden here

You are in the wrong but you'll never admit it and I won't try to make you. You don't like me and you took it out on me with your little no fee stunt. I don't like you either but I included the fee because that's just the right thing to do. Have a nice life.

I transferd you 33 NXT, that is 1 $. Tx ID 15654357663140885235

I did not mean to insult anyone with offering free escrow and then just sending without fee.



It's was never about the money. Now I have to open my freaking client so I can send it back to you.


Keep it please Smiley
Also i know it wasn't about the money. I just didn't realized you need the BTC soon. I have a manner of sending BTC without fee, i do it all the time.
Sry man!

(Also please know that this is just my bitchy internet persona, I don't know you and have nothing against you personally Wink )

Take care

I can't accept this blood nxt. Just kidding about the blood,  but I did just send it back to 10626333978591385112
(however this time, I did send it 32 nxt + 1 Nxt fee.)  Since you apologized, I removed the feedback (which wasn't a negative rating)  from your post. We all have bad days. Cheers
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1001
CEO Bitpanda.com
Wtb lots of NXT
Only escrow!

I can do escrow if you want and find someone to take up your offer.

make sure he includes the fee when he sends you yours. Kept me waiting for hours by not including it for mine.

lol, why should i pay for the fee? I sent what was sent to me^^

remind me to never use you as escrow.  you as the middleman had certain responsibilities here


Yeah good idea. Use an escrow for free and expect him to pay the fee. Rofl, you guys seem to be delusional...

Dude, I offered to do it without escrow and to send first and suddenly you injected yourself into the whole deal as mr. big shot escrow man.
You could have at least told me up front you were sending sans fee and given me the opportunity to pay it myself so
I didn't have to sit around forever waiting for it to confirm.  

Get your facts straight, msin wanted an escrow. Also stop bitching about waiting for a transfer that will clearly confirm if you dont even spend the amount then....

This is such a kindergarden here

You are in the wrong but you'll never admit it and I won't try to make you. You don't like me and you took it out on me with your little no fee stunt. I don't like you either but I included the fee because that's just the right thing to do. Have a nice life.

I transferd you 33 NXT, that is 1 $. Tx ID 15654357663140885235

I did not mean to insult anyone with offering free escrow and then just sending without fee.



It's was never about the money. Now I have to open my freaking client so I can send it back to you.


Keep it please Smiley
Also i know it wasn't about the money. I just didn't realized you need the BTC soon. I have a manner of sending BTC without fee, i do it all the time.
Sry man!

(Also please know that this is just my bitchy internet persona, I don't know you and have nothing against you personally Wink )

Take care
member
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Wtb lots of NXT
Only escrow!

I can do escrow if you want and find someone to take up your offer.

make sure he includes the fee when he sends you yours. Kept me waiting for hours by not including it for mine.

lol, why should i pay for the fee? I sent what was sent to me^^

remind me to never use you as escrow.  you as the middleman had certain responsibilities here


Yeah good idea. Use an escrow for free and expect him to pay the fee. Rofl, you guys seem to be delusional...

Dude, I offered to do it without escrow and to send first and suddenly you injected yourself into the whole deal as mr. big shot escrow man.
You could have at least told me up front you were sending sans fee and given me the opportunity to pay it myself so
I didn't have to sit around forever waiting for it to confirm.  

Get your facts straight, msin wanted an escrow. Also stop bitching about waiting for a transfer that will clearly confirm if you dont even spend the amount then....

This is such a kindergarden here

You are in the wrong but you'll never admit it and I won't try to make you. You don't like me and you took it out on me with your little no fee stunt. I don't like you either but I included the fee because that's just the right thing to do. Have a nice life.

I transferd you 33 NXT, that is 1 $. Tx ID 15654357663140885235

I did not mean to insult anyone with offering free escrow and then just sending without fee.



It's was never about the money. Now I have to open my freaking client so I can send it back to you.
member
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You are in the wrong but you'll never admit it and I won't try to make you. You don't like me and you took it out on me with your little no fee stunt. I don't like you either but I included the fee because that's just the right thing to do. Have a nice life.

This doesn't make sense, though. Nxt requires fee, so it's not as if you had a choice there.

I could have sent 11,999 and the 1 Nxt fee.  I didn't even know the fee is mandatory. It's just OBVIOUSLY the right thing to do, or at the very very least provide a warning that it's being sent with no fee.
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1001
CEO Bitpanda.com
Wtb lots of NXT
Only escrow!

I can do escrow if you want and find someone to take up your offer.

make sure he includes the fee when he sends you yours. Kept me waiting for hours by not including it for mine.

lol, why should i pay for the fee? I sent what was sent to me^^

remind me to never use you as escrow.  you as the middleman had certain responsibilities here


Yeah good idea. Use an escrow for free and expect him to pay the fee. Rofl, you guys seem to be delusional...

Dude, I offered to do it without escrow and to send first and suddenly you injected yourself into the whole deal as mr. big shot escrow man.
You could have at least told me up front you were sending sans fee and given me the opportunity to pay it myself so
I didn't have to sit around forever waiting for it to confirm.  

Get your facts straight, msin wanted an escrow. Also stop bitching about waiting for a transfer that will clearly confirm if you dont even spend the amount then....

This is such a kindergarden here

You are in the wrong but you'll never admit it and I won't try to make you. You don't like me and you took it out on me with your little no fee stunt. I don't like you either but I included the fee because that's just the right thing to do. Have a nice life.

I transferd you 33 NXT, that is 1 $. Tx ID 15654357663140885235

I did not mean to insult anyone with offering free escrow and then just sending without fee.

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You could have paid him 0.0001 less. It would not have  cost you anything.

And be accused that delivered less than was agreed? Guys, ur claims look weird...

I agree, you guys should grow up and put this nonsense with Brian behind. He is history and let's all leave it behind. I am sure you all have smarter ways to spend your time on than this.
hero member
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You are in the wrong but you'll never admit it and I won't try to make you. You don't like me and you took it out on me with your little no fee stunt. I don't like you either but I included the fee because that's just the right thing to do. Have a nice life.

This doesn't make sense, though. Nxt requires fee, so it's not as if you had a choice there.
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