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Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments - page 26. (Read 1234317 times)

newbie
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Bad news -> sell. Good news -> sell. Crypto winter Undecided
Hopefully, it will not last forever, the number of Bytes is limited Tongue I like the fact that very little is given for free these days.

I can understand sellers who bought earlier and now cover losses. But those who get for free, I can't understand. My position is that the team gives me free shares in exchange for trust in their work -> hold them while the project grows and sell them when it is strong and mature enough. Presently the team is working really hard and continues developing no matter what price is and no matter what others say. And the results are impressive.
Congrats with the new witness candidate! I see the big opportunity with this relationship.
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
Any bagholders looking to sell large amounts, please message me. 500GB or more.

We can do escrow with someone reputable from the community.

Cheers

newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
Is it still possible to see addresses that have participated in the old airdrop? That page seems down.
jr. member
Activity: 81
Merit: 8
In the meantime all time low reached yesterday: 0.00178 BTC per GB.

Buy when there's blood on the street?
Or harbinger of further decline?

full member
Activity: 734
Merit: 109
Bosch? Seems promising...
It can be later a world wide support for OByte.
full member
Activity: 563
Merit: 103


2. Bosch is a witness candidate



Bosch  means Robert Bosch GmbH  - the world-known company from Germany, right? If yes I will definitely vote. 

Yes, but Robert Bosch GmbH has many subsidiaries, this witness is from Bosch Stuttgart Connectory subsidiary.
hero member
Activity: 1358
Merit: 635


2. Bosch is a witness candidate



Bosch  means Robert Bosch GmbH  - the world-known company from Germany, right? If yes I will definitely vote. 
legendary
Activity: 965
Merit: 1033
Two news today:

1. We are looking for a better name for "witness"
https://medium.com/obyte/whats-a-better-name-for-a-witness-cd48c6355793
See the article to learn why we need it.



2. Bosch is a witness candidate
https://medium.com/obyte/bosch-connectory-is-the-next-candidate-to-become-a-witness-on-the-obyte-public-network-b99572870644



You are invited to vote during the next 2 weeks through the Poll Bot in your wallet.
The results so far:


hero member
Activity: 1358
Merit: 635

The functionality to backup all wallet data (including private data) is built into the wallet app in the Setting menu.


I'm still using the old-fashion style to backup my light weight client by doing it for the whole ....\AppData\Local\byteball folder and it never let me down.

You are missing one of the features of built-in backup feature, which is the encryption with a passphrase. This makes it possible to backup your wallet to cloud drive.
I guess you could do the same by password protecting the zip file or adding the password spending restriction, but that seems like lot more work.

I never trust any cloud services when it comes to these kind of things and my wallet is not password protected. Why would I need it if the wallet is on my home computer. Anyway I use multisig 1-of-2 wallet and if even one of two is out off commission  I'm safe.

No trust needed when encrypted with strong passphrase. If the backup is on same machine as the wallet then it's really not a backup, but copy of data folder.
But yeah, 1-of-2 wallet is good option too, but it would still be good to have a backup of that other device somewhere else too.

The copy of Obyte's data folder on the non-system drive that residents on the same machine is still a back-up if the system drive failed.  Wink Of course, it's a matter of taste whether you holding that copy on second drive or, say, on removable flash drive.
full member
Activity: 563
Merit: 103

The functionality to backup all wallet data (including private data) is built into the wallet app in the Setting menu.


I'm still using the old-fashion style to backup my light weight client by doing it for the whole ....\AppData\Local\byteball folder and it never let me down.

You are missing one of the features of built-in backup feature, which is the encryption with a passphrase. This makes it possible to backup your wallet to cloud drive.
I guess you could do the same by password protecting the zip file or adding the password spending restriction, but that seems like lot more work.

I never trust any cloud services when it comes to these kind of things and my wallet is not password protected. Why would I need it if the wallet is on my home computer. Anyway I use multisig 1-of-2 wallet and if even one of two is out off commission  I'm safe.

No trust needed when encrypted with strong passphrase. If the backup is on same machine as the wallet then it's really not a backup, but copy of data folder.
But yeah, 1-of-2 wallet is good option too, but it would still be good to have a backup of that other device somewhere else too.
hero member
Activity: 1358
Merit: 635

The functionality to backup all wallet data (including private data) is built into the wallet app in the Setting menu.


I'm still using the old-fashion style to backup my light weight client by doing it for the whole ....\AppData\Local\byteball folder and it never let me down.

You are missing one of the features of built-in backup feature, which is the encryption with a passphrase. This makes it possible to backup your wallet to cloud drive.
I guess you could do the same by password protecting the zip file or adding the password spending restriction, but that seems like lot more work.

I never trust any cloud services when it comes to these kind of things and my wallet is not password protected. Why would I need it if the wallet is on my home computer. Anyway I use multisig 1-of-2 wallet and if even one of two is out off commission  I'm safe.
full member
Activity: 563
Merit: 103

The functionality to backup all wallet data (including private data) is built into the wallet app in the Setting menu.


I'm still using the old-fashion style to backup my light weight client by doing it for the whole ....\AppData\Local\byteball folder and it never let me down.

You are missing one of the features of built-in backup feature, which is the encryption with a passphrase. This makes it possible to backup your wallet to cloud drive.
I guess you could do the same by password protecting the zip file or adding the password spending restriction, but that seems like lot more work.
hero member
Activity: 1358
Merit: 635

The functionality to backup all wallet data (including private data) is built into the wallet app in the Setting menu.


I'm still using the old-fashion style to backup my light weight client by doing it for the whole ....\AppData\Local\byteball folder and it never let me down.
full member
Activity: 563
Merit: 103
With the new release of the wallet which is the best way to make the backup of a full node wallet, so that we backup also the blackbytes? Just to do the full backup or to copy the whole directory?

Why wouldn't you do it the same way you've done it in the part?
Same process for all versions.

Full Backup

It makes a file you can use on any platform.

Now, I think you might be asking how to convert a full node to a light wallet in an attempt to retain your bytes/blackbytes in the process?



I'm just asking since I remember discussions in the past where it was suggested to backup the whole byteball directory so as to be sure to secure also the blackbytes. As for converting a full node to a light wallet I guess you could do that by just transferring you assets to a light wallet on another device, am I right? But in fact would then a full backup of a light wallet retain also the blackbytes?

The functionality to backup all wallet data (including private data) is built into the wallet app in the Setting menu.
Converting a full node to light node is complicated, you could:
* transfer the blackbytes to some other wallet.
* copy the seed words.
* destroy the wallet and start it again to create a light wallet.
* restore the seed words.
* transfer blackbytes back to new wallet.
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
With the new release of the wallet which is the best way to make the backup of a full node wallet, so that we backup also the blackbytes? Just to do the full backup or to copy the whole directory?

Why wouldn't you do it the same way you've done it in the part?
Same process for all versions.

Full Backup

It makes a file you can use on any platform.

Now, I think you might be asking how to convert a full node to a light wallet in an attempt to retain your bytes/blackbytes in the process?



I'm just asking since I remember discussions in the past where it was suggested to backup the whole byteball directory so as to be sure to secure also the blackbytes. As for converting a full node to a light wallet I guess you could do that by just transferring you assets to a light wallet on another device, am I right? But in fact would then a full backup of a light wallet retain also the blackbytes?
full member
Activity: 563
Merit: 103
OByte use DAG as IOTA trying also to use - since years, but IOTA can't solve DAG well. IOTA seems to be the "first" and "big" DAG project, but IOTA isn't a true DLT, because the centralized structure through Coordinator. IOTA will be sold as DLT, but IOTA isn't a DLT project. So is IOTA a simple scam.

I agree that the existence of the Coordinator makes it horrible solution, but it's still a DLT.

Good. I understand. IOTA is a kind of WCLT. (= well centralized ledger technology......) Well.
Me "centralized" won't equal "distributed"...... Sorry.

What's up with Tony these days? Still not caring about what other people recommend and doing only his thing? Project on #262 on CMC, so I guess this must be the case.
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CoinMarketCap ranking doesn't show any change to these announcement, it has been stuck at #262 since CMC introduced new ranking system for all coins outside top 200.
CoinGecko ranks Obyte on #182 https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/obyte
Live Coin Watch ranks Obyte on #170 https://www.livecoinwatch.com/price/ByteballBytes-GBYTE

I suggest, that OByte using #1 DAG algo! Yes, OByte is the first working DAG algo. Simple. Blockchain is popular, but don't better. It is then #1 ranking for OByte. Congratulation to all dev's!

Decentralization is spectrum, not binary value.

Open source enables us to improve Bitcoin and many have inspired by Bitcoin to build alternative solutions, trying to fix the shortcomings that Bitcoin has.

Yet, for over 5 years, Bitcoin has preferred ASIC-miners, which has grown so big problem that you have to do it in pools to even have any chance to win a block reward.

And who controls the manufacturing of ASICs - few companies, which products are hard to get in other ways than from those few, GPUs circuits are manufactured by many. Who could buy a GPU and mine ETH? Anyone who owns less than 1 BTC, just go to computer shop and buy bunch of GPUs.

And who controls, which transactions get picked to next block? Mining pools, but it should be individual miners in pool who decide.

All these improvements have been solved on many altcoins, yet Bitcoin is so centralized that none of that gets merged because it's not in the interest of ASIC manufacturers.

Again, not completely centralized and not decentralized, it's a spectrum of many things.
full member
Activity: 734
Merit: 109
OByte use DAG as IOTA trying also to use - since years, but IOTA can't solve DAG well. IOTA seems to be the "first" and "big" DAG project, but IOTA isn't a true DLT, because the centralized structure through Coordinator. IOTA will be sold as DLT, but IOTA isn't a DLT project. So is IOTA a simple scam.

I agree that the existence of the Coordinator makes it horrible solution, but it's still a DLT.

Good. I understand. IOTA is a kind of WCLT. (= well centralized ledger technology......) Well.
Me "centralized" won't equal "distributed"...... Sorry.

What's up with Tony these days? Still not caring about what other people recommend and doing only his thing? Project on #262 on CMC, so I guess this must be the case.
...
CoinMarketCap ranking doesn't show any change to these announcement, it has been stuck at #262 since CMC introduced new ranking system for all coins outside top 200.
CoinGecko ranks Obyte on #182 https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/obyte
Live Coin Watch ranks Obyte on #170 https://www.livecoinwatch.com/price/ByteballBytes-GBYTE

I suggest, that OByte using #1 DAG algo! Yes, OByte is the first working DAG algo. Simple. Blockchain is popular, but don't better. It is then #1 ranking for OByte. Congratulation to all dev's!
full member
Activity: 563
Merit: 103
What's up with Tony these days? Still not caring about what other people recommend and doing only his thing? Project on #262 on CMC, so I guess this must be the case.

You can see all Tony's latest posts there https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tonych-412662

Most work has gone into bringing smart-contracts as powerful as Ethereum to Obyte, they will be called Autonomous Agents and it's available on testnet already.
https://medium.com/obyte/introducing-autonomous-agents-6fe12fb12aa3

There has been improvements how witnesses are displayed on app and stats page, so people can make better decision with new upcoming witnesses.
https://medium.com/@pauljamesmurray/wallet-version-2-8-0-released-d620dc825e07
https://medium.com/@pauljamesmurray/showing-the-world-that-blocks-and-miners-are-not-needed-the-alternative-obyte-witness-model-is-a2fa95f4272
https://medium.com/@pauljamesmurray/new-witness-monitoring-service-autonomous-agents-contest-update-408b7a79281a

Also, still lot of effort goes into explaining what witnesses do, some people still confuse them with gatekeepers like block producers or voters. In order to remove the confusion with Steem Witnesses, alternative name to Witnesses is now Order Providers.
https://medium.com/obyte/from-blockchain-to-dag-getting-rid-of-middlemen-28afa7563545

CoinMarketCap ranking doesn't show any change to these announcement, it has been stuck at #262 since CMC introduced new ranking system for all coins outside top 200.
CoinGecko ranks Obyte on #182 https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/obyte
Live Coin Watch ranks Obyte on #170 https://www.livecoinwatch.com/price/ByteballBytes-GBYTE
full member
Activity: 588
Merit: 100
What's up with Tony these days? Still not caring about what other people recommend and doing only his thing? Project on #262 on CMC, so I guess this must be the case.
full member
Activity: 563
Merit: 103
OByte use DAG as IOTA trying also to use - since years, but IOTA can't solve DAG well. IOTA seems to be the "first" and "big" DAG project, but IOTA isn't a true DLT, because the centralized structure through Coordinator. IOTA will be sold as DLT, but IOTA isn't a DLT project. So is IOTA a simple scam.

I agree that the existence of the Coordinator makes it horrible solution, but it's still a DLT.

DLT stands for distributed ledger technology, not decentralized ledger technology.
DAG is just a database structure, a graph of nodes (transactions) that should be linked so they form specific direction and not circle back to previous nodes (transactions).
Same as blockchain is just a database structure called linked list of nodes (blocks), technically it's also graph if you take account all orphaned nodes (blocks). Some say that blockchain needs to be decentralized and PoW too, but the main point that makes blockchain a blockchain is the Byzantine Fault Tolerance, which is also requirement for all DLTs. What makes the DLT a DLT is that the data is distributed and all nodes (databases) come to same conclusion (they add only valid blocks/transaction to the database in same order on all nodes even if they are received in different order). This solves the double-spend problem.
Most mainstream people now call everything a blockchain, while what they actually mean is DLT.

Both blockchain and DAG cryptocurrencies are DLTs. What DLT is not - a single database or multiple replications of a single database, which is operated by same operator.

Obyte was a DLT even when all witnesses were operated by Tony. Now with 2 witnesses replaced, Obyte is even more decentralized than how Libra was suppose to launch (15/100 validators = 15%, 2/12 witnesses = 16%), but main difference is that Obyte witnesses don't vote on valid transactions or double-spends, they just provide transaction ordering with their own transactions.

Cryptocurrency platform where the governance entity can censor transactions is still a DLT, just not very good one (Hedera Hashgraph, EOS). Bitcoin can be censored too if mining pools collude, but even then, it is still DLT. For example, mining pools could agree not to add any Satoshis transactions to new blocks and Satoshi would be fucked because there is no way he could build a mining farm that powerful now to compete with existing mining pools (unless he already controls one). It will still be blockchain and DLT, even if they do censor Satoshi.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ktorpey/2019/07/28/bitcoin-mining-centralization-is-quite-alarming-but-a-solution-is-in-the-works/#2ee71027530b
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Weaknesses#Attacker_has_a_lot_of_computing_power
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
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