Is it still possible to see addresses that have participated in the old airdrop? That page seems down.
No one knows.. ?
Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments - page 25. (Read 1234317 times)
December 17, 2019, 04:48:06 PM
No one knows.. ?
December 17, 2019, 12:47:00 PM
Since when something which is created for no need is going to cost more, only because it is going to end soon?
No need? Going to end soon?
Over 10 million dollars worth of Bitcoin gets mined every day at current price. Miners are probably not selling all, but obviously there is some demand for it, if there is not, who are they selling it? The inflation is not going to end, it will be half smaller than it is now. If there is same demand for it then the price goes up after halving.
Who is buying the Obyte 5-7%? Obviously there is more people selling it than buying, otherwise the price would not slowly go down, but just because you don't have any need for it, doesn't mean that nobody is buying.
Are you saying something stupid that there is absolutely no need for cryptocurrencies? If not then WTF?
December 17, 2019, 12:23:53 PM
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Since when something which is created for no need is going to cost more, only because it is going to end soon?
do not pay attention, he is a crypto holder) December 17, 2019, 10:23:28 AM
yeah it looks like this. Only few old coins did well over all time. The rest are shine, die and replaced by new.
Obyte shine time is ended in 2018. Even if this is not the end of crypto, this is the end of obyte
It is too soon to say like that. Next year will mark the first four years of Obyte and it will be an interesting year, not only because of Obyte itself but also because of crypto market in general. Altcoins which have good internal sources will do rally next year. I have never lost my belief in Obyte.Obyte shine time is ended in 2018. Even if this is not the end of crypto, this is the end of obyte
If you look at the market with neutral perspective, you will see most of altcoins have fallen deeply more than 80 percent from their all time highs. Fortunately, this year is not the end for them, and not a dead year for all; strong survivors will do have another opportunity to shine again, next year.
Also, next year is the first time when BTC inflation drops below 2%. https://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/
This probably won't start a bull-run immediately, but as soon as media starts talking again that Bitcoin is still not dead, everyone is back at "investing" in altcoins.
Everybody who doesn't believe in Stock-2-Flow are either in denial or betting there will be less demand for BTC in less than a year than there is now.
During past year, Obyte inflation has been between 5-7% and there is still 27% left to distribute, which should last for another 4-6 years.
Features and tech usually doesn't matter for the price, but with Autonomous Agents, Obyte will be equally capable as Ethereum and in some aspects even better.
When half of the witnesses get replaced then only thing that Obyte is lacking is the developers who would build on it.
Since when something which is created for no need is going to cost more, only because it is going to end soon?
December 16, 2019, 01:00:38 PM
yeah it looks like this. Only few old coins did well over all time. The rest are shine, die and replaced by new.
Obyte shine time is ended in 2018. Even if this is not the end of crypto, this is the end of obyte
It is too soon to say like that. Next year will mark the first four years of Obyte and it will be an interesting year, not only because of Obyte itself but also because of crypto market in general. Altcoins which have good internal sources will do rally next year. I have never lost my belief in Obyte.Obyte shine time is ended in 2018. Even if this is not the end of crypto, this is the end of obyte
If you look at the market with neutral perspective, you will see most of altcoins have fallen deeply more than 80 percent from their all time highs. Fortunately, this year is not the end for them, and not a dead year for all; strong survivors will do have another opportunity to shine again, next year.
Also, next year is the first time when BTC inflation drops below 2%. https://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/
This probably won't start a bull-run immediately, but as soon as media starts talking again that Bitcoin is still not dead, everyone is back at "investing" in altcoins.
Everybody who doesn't believe in Stock-2-Flow are either in denial or betting there will be less demand for BTC in less than a year than there is now.
During past year, Obyte inflation has been between 5-7% and there is still 27% left to distribute, which should last for another 4-6 years.
Features and tech usually doesn't matter for the price, but with Autonomous Agents, Obyte will be equally capable as Ethereum and in some aspects even better.
When half of the witnesses get replaced then only thing that Obyte is lacking is the developers who would build on it.
December 16, 2019, 10:55:09 AM
yeah it looks like this. Only few old coins did well over all time. The rest are shine, die and replaced by new.
Obyte shine time is ended in 2018. Even if this is not the end of crypto, this is the end of obyte
It is too soon to say like that. Next year will mark the first four years of Obyte and it will be an interesting year, not only because of Obyte itself but also because of crypto market in general. Altcoins which have good internal sources will do rally next year. I have never lost my belief in Obyte.Obyte shine time is ended in 2018. Even if this is not the end of crypto, this is the end of obyte
If you look at the market with neutral perspective, you will see most of altcoins have fallen deeply more than 80 percent from their all time highs. Fortunately, this year is not the end for them, and not a dead year for all; strong survivors will do have another opportunity to shine again, next year.
December 16, 2019, 10:22:53 AM
yeah it looks like this. Only few old coins did well over all time. The rest are shine, die and replaced by new.
Obyte shine time is ended in 2018. Even if this is not the end of crypto, this is the end of obyte
It is too soon to say like that. Next year will mark the first four years of Obyte and it will be an interesting year, not only because of Obyte itself but also because of crypto market in general. Altcoins which have good internal sources will do rally next year. I have never lost my belief in Obyte.Obyte shine time is ended in 2018. Even if this is not the end of crypto, this is the end of obyte
If you look at the market with neutral perspective, you will see most of altcoins have fallen deeply more than 80 percent from their all time highs. Fortunately, this year is not the end for them, and not a dead year for all; strong survivors will do have another opportunity to shine again, next year.
December 16, 2019, 05:37:16 AM
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Seems to me that general tactic is to make a new coin after every few years and let the old one die
yeah it looks like this. Only few old coins did well over all time. The rest are shine, die and replaced by new. Obyte shine time is ended in 2018. Even if this is not the end of crypto, this is the end of obyte
December 15, 2019, 06:41:29 PM
Has there ever been a cryptocurrency that existed for a long time outside of the top 20 and then underwent a revival and became very popular? I don't think so. I think gaining and maintaining some high level of momentum is critically necessary to be a successful cryptocurrency. Maybe Byteball will be the first one, but I'm surely not betting on it.
How many in top 20 are old timers? Who is, beside some very few coins in top 20, maintaining high level of momentum? So, "successful cryptocurrency" is just top 1, top 2, top 3?
Seems to me that general tactic is to make a new coin after every few years and let the old one die. No wonder it's difficult to get any adoption, if cryptocurrency lifetime is shorter that the fiat 24 year life-expectancy.
You didn't answer the question.
December 15, 2019, 06:23:07 PM
Has there ever been a cryptocurrency that existed for a long time outside of the top 20 and then underwent a revival and became very popular? I don't think so. I think gaining and maintaining some high level of momentum is critically necessary to be a successful cryptocurrency. Maybe Byteball will be the first one, but I'm surely not betting on it.
How many in top 20 are old timers? Who is, beside some very few coins in top 20, maintaining high level of momentum? So, "successful cryptocurrency" is just top 1, top 2, top 3?
Seems to me that general tactic is to make a new coin after every few years and let the old one die. No wonder it's difficult to get any adoption, if cryptocurrency lifetime is shorter that the fiat 24 year life-expectancy.
December 15, 2019, 05:34:43 PM
Has there ever been a cryptocurrency that existed for a long time outside of the top 20 and then underwent a revival and became very popular? I don't think so. I think gaining and maintaining some high level of momentum is critically necessary to be a successful cryptocurrency. Maybe Byteball will be the first one, but I'm surely not betting on it.
December 15, 2019, 05:13:06 PM
In the meantime all time low reached yesterday: 0.00178 BTC per GB.
Buy when there's blood on the street?
Or harbinger of further decline?
Buy when there's blood on the street?
Or harbinger of further decline?
Can't be helped. The whole altcoin industry is largely abandoned by speculators and long time investors. The herd will go to where the herd will go. During these times, you will know which developers stuck around even when the financial gain is actually negative.
Is 2019-2020 any different from 2015-2016?
How exactly are those idiots wrong this time and were not wrong last time? When BTC gets back at ATH, all those non-idiot rational "investors" will be back FOMOing empty promises on white papers because they are unable to make a difference between turd and gem. Next time is not going to be any different, it will probably happen much quicker and percentage-wise not as much, but it will happen no matter how deep in denial you are.
December 15, 2019, 05:10:54 PM
In the meantime all time low reached yesterday: 0.00178 BTC per GB.
Buy when there's blood on the street?
Or harbinger of further decline?
Buy when there's blood on the street?
Or harbinger of further decline?
Can't be helped. The whole altcoin industry is largely abandoned by speculators and long time investors. The herd will go to where the herd will go. During these times, you will know which developers stuck around even when the financial gain is actually negative.
Is 2019-2020 any different from 2015-2016?
How exactly are those idiots wrong this time and were not wrong last time? When BTC gets back at ATH, all those non-idiot rational "investors" will be back FOMOing empty promises on white papers because they are unable to make a difference between turd and gem. Next time is not going to be any different, it will probably happen much quicker and percentage-wise not as much, but it will happen no matter how deep in denial you are.
December 15, 2019, 02:50:29 PM
In the meantime all time low reached yesterday: 0.00178 BTC per GB.
Buy when there's blood on the street?
Or harbinger of further decline?
Buy when there's blood on the street?
Or harbinger of further decline?
Can't be helped. The whole altcoin industry is largely abandoned by speculators and long time investors. The herd will go to where the herd will go. During these times, you will know which developers stuck around even when the financial gain is actually negative.
Is 2019-2020 any different from 2015-2016?
December 15, 2019, 01:42:47 PM
In the meantime all time low reached yesterday: 0.00178 BTC per GB.
Buy when there's blood on the street?
Or harbinger of further decline?
Buy when there's blood on the street?
Or harbinger of further decline?
Can't be helped. The whole altcoin industry is largely abandoned by speculators and long time investors. The herd will go to where the herd will go. During these times, you will know which developers stuck around even when the financial gain is actually negative.
Is 2019-2020 any different from 2015-2016?
December 15, 2019, 11:14:27 AM
In the meantime all time low reached yesterday: 0.00178 BTC per GB.
Buy when there's blood on the street?
Or harbinger of further decline?
Buy when there's blood on the street?
Or harbinger of further decline?
Can't be helped. The whole altcoin industry is largely abandoned by speculators and long time investors. The herd will go to where the herd will go. During these times, you will know which developers stuck around even when the financial gain is actually negative.
December 15, 2019, 10:07:26 AM
Presently the team is working really hard and continues developing no matter what price is and no matter what others say. And the results are impressive.
Congrats with the new witness candidate! I see the big opportunity with this relationship.
what results?Congrats with the new witness candidate! I see the big opportunity with this relationship.
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I wonder if the project will not die off after no more GB are left to sell.
it will, what are you going to pay people when bytes are over?Also, at current rate of replacing witness once in 6 months, getting 6 witnesses replaced (huge milestone) is only 2 years from now, but since there was fix to a bug, which caused the light wallets to lookup suitable parents from way far past, the speed of replacing witnesses should improve from now on.
December 15, 2019, 09:44:36 AM
Bad news -> sell. Good news -> sell. Crypto winter 
Hopefully, it will not last forever, the number of Bytes is limited
I like the fact that very little is given for free these days.
I can understand sellers who bought earlier and now cover losses. But those who get for free, I can't understand. My position is that the team gives me free shares in exchange for trust in their work -> hold them while the project grows and sell them when it is strong and mature enough. Presently the team is working really hard and continues developing no matter what price is and no matter what others say. And the results are impressive.
Congrats with the new witness candidate! I see the big opportunity with this relationship.
Hopefully, it will not last forever, the number of Bytes is limited
I like the fact that very little is given for free these days.I can understand sellers who bought earlier and now cover losses. But those who get for free, I can't understand. My position is that the team gives me free shares in exchange for trust in their work -> hold them while the project grows and sell them when it is strong and mature enough. Presently the team is working really hard and continues developing no matter what price is and no matter what others say. And the results are impressive.
Congrats with the new witness candidate! I see the big opportunity with this relationship.
No, GBYTE is not shares, what you describe would be a security. GBYTE is fuel for the Obyte network (you need them to post anything to Obyte DAG) and Obyte has no control over the price and it will not pay any dividends from the work it does, Obyte Foundation is non-profit organization. GBYTE price depends on demand and supply of the community, but since the community has shrink so much during the bear market, not much BTC is needed to move the price in any direction.
December 15, 2019, 08:02:11 AM
Bad news -> sell. Good news -> sell. Crypto winter
Hopefully, it will not last forever, the number of Bytes is limited I like the fact that very little is given for free these days.
I can understand sellers who bought earlier and now cover losses. But those who get for free, I can't understand. My position is that the team gives me free shares in exchange for trust in their work -> hold them while the project grows and sell them when it is strong and mature enough. Presently the team is working really hard and continues developing no matter what price is and no matter what others say. And the results are impressive.
Congrats with the new witness candidate! I see the big opportunity with this relationship.
what results? Hopefully, it will not last forever, the number of Bytes is limited
I like the fact that very little is given for free these days.I can understand sellers who bought earlier and now cover losses. But those who get for free, I can't understand. My position is that the team gives me free shares in exchange for trust in their work -> hold them while the project grows and sell them when it is strong and mature enough. Presently the team is working really hard and continues developing no matter what price is and no matter what others say. And the results are impressive.
Congrats with the new witness candidate! I see the big opportunity with this relationship.
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I wonder if the project will not die off after no more GB are left to sell.
it will, what are you going to pay people when bytes are over? December 15, 2019, 06:15:15 AM
I wonder if this price decline is not excacerbated by Tony himself.
How are the costs of running the project covered? We see some people hired so there are wages to pay.
The project has no revenue streams so the only conclusion is that the costs are covered by selling the remaining stash of GB. As the coin cap is very small and liquidity almost non-existent any sells by Tony drive the price down heavily.
There's still 27% of all GB to be dumped so there's still plenty of room to go down.
I wonder if the project will not die off after no more GB are left to sell.
It will be a moment of reckoning for the project.
How are the costs of running the project covered? We see some people hired so there are wages to pay.
The project has no revenue streams so the only conclusion is that the costs are covered by selling the remaining stash of GB. As the coin cap is very small and liquidity almost non-existent any sells by Tony drive the price down heavily.
There's still 27% of all GB to be dumped so there's still plenty of room to go down.
I wonder if the project will not die off after no more GB are left to sell.
It will be a moment of reckoning for the project.
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