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Quote from: Haunebu on November 03, 2019, 08:38:42 AM

India are on a roll at the moment. Seems like Rohit beat Kohli's record once again. What a start. Am surprised that Samson is still on the bench while Pant is the wicket-keeper. The current squad looks so different without Kohli, Dhoni etc.

There is a lot of competition for the wicket-keepers role and as far as I know, Sanju Samson is not the most preferred player for the selectors. Among the youngsters, the top two choices are Rishabh Pant and K. L. Rahul (although the latter is an occasional wicket-keeper). Both represent powerful state associations, with Pant representing Delhi and Rahul representing Karnataka. Sanju Samson may rank third in this list (provided the selectors are no longer interested in Dinesh Karthik and Wriddhiman Saha).

Apart from them, the player pool is very vast. A number of youngsters are on the fringes, and examples are Parthiv Patel of Gujarat, Naman Ojha of Madhya Pradesh, Ishan Kishan from Jharkhand, Ankush Bains from Himachal Pradesh and Srikar Bharat from Andhra Pradesh. Among this group perhaps Ishan Kishan is the most promising one. But none of them got as many opportunities as Pant and Rahul got. And none of them seems to have any political connection unlike the case of Dinesh Karthik.

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 03, 2019, 08:38:42 AM

India are on a roll at the moment. Seems like Rohit beat Kohli's record once again. What a start. Am surprised that Samson is still on the bench while Pant is the wicket-keeper. The current squad looks so different without Kohli, Dhoni etc.

I am also surprised to see Sanju Samson still warming the bench and the team management is giving more opportunities for Pant to score runs and if he is not able to score runs against Bangladesh then it will be hard for him to be in the world cup squad, the team looks strange as there is no Jadeja nor Ashwin but Indian is playing with three spinners.

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At this rate, I am expecting India to score something close to 190(Random guess). I bet on India. Did anyone here bet on Bangladesh or India?

Bangladesh already lost their first wicket but if they are able to chase without messing up then they will be able to chase this total and Mahmudullah is the key player if they have to chase this total.

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India are on a roll at the moment. Seems like Rohit beat Kohli's record once again. What a start. Am surprised that Samson is still on the bench while Pant is the wicket-keeper. The current squad looks so different without Kohli, Dhoni etc.

At this rate, I am expecting India to score something close to 190(Random guess). I bet on India. Did anyone here bet on Bangladesh or India?

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 03, 2019, 06:36:42 AM

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on November 03, 2019, 06:05:50 AM

Hold on! Kohli is not playing in today's match?

Yup. He deserves the rest and younger players like Samson and Dube are getting chances at last. Chahal is back too. I am interested in seeing whether Samson is better than Pant on an international level.

Also, it seems that Rohit Sharma needs 8 more runs to chase down Kohli's T-20 runs record. These both are simply trading places back and forth these days in terms of records.

Considering that Bangladesh team is not at that par at current moment considring Shakib also being out then it is also a good time for India as well to get the new players or give other player a chance as this will give them experience as well.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on November 03, 2019, 06:05:50 AM

Hold on! Kohli is not playing in today's match?

Yup. He deserves the rest and younger players like Samson and Dube are getting chances at last. Chahal is back too. I am interested in seeing whether Samson is better than Pant on an international level.

Also, it seems that Rohit Sharma needs 8 more runs to chase down Kohli's T-20 runs record. These both are simply trading places back and forth these days in terms of records.

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 03, 2019, 03:16:10 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 03, 2019, 01:14:53 AM

From what I have heard, the ICC was planning to come up with a rule limiting the participation of a player to a maximum of 2-3 T20 leagues per year. This would have been a big blow for some of the players, such as Sandeep Lamichhane, Rashid Khan and Ryan ten Doeschate. But as a result of the protests from players, they never implemented it.

Never knew about this. Its a good thing that the players protested since it would suck to not see players like Rashid Khan in SRH etc. ICC continues to come up with trash rules.

If the ICC limits the players to two or three different leagues a year, then obviously the first preference for every one is going to be the IPL. Because that is where the money is. None of the other leagues pay as much money as the IPL does. For example, Sandeep Lamichhane will be confined to the IPL and the Nepali League (Everest T20). He will be forced to end his contracts with Melbourne Stars (BBL), St Kitts and Nevis Patriots (CPL), Toronto Nationals (Global T20 Canada), Nangarhar (Afghanistan Premier League), Sylhet Sixers (BPL) and Lahore Qalandars (PSL).

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 03, 2019, 12:45:03 AM

Shakib was banned for not informing the ICC about bookies approaching him, he was banned for technicality rather than participating in one and Bangladesh playing without their start player what chance do they have to win against India, if weather is not an issue i think about a complete domination from India Wink

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That means he is not playing!
Well unfortunately for Bangladesh and yes I really do not see any resistance for India now. They have their ground, their supporter, top class players so they should have some easy win.

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India (possible): 1 Rohit Sharma (capt), 2 Shikhar Dhawan, 3 Sanju Samson/KL Rahul, 4 Shreyas Iyer, 5 Rishabh Pant (wk) 6 Shivam Dube, 7 Krunal Pandya, 8 Washington Sundar, 9 Yuzvendra Chahal/Rahul Chahar, 10 Deepak Chahar, 11 Shardul Thakur/Khaleel Ahmed

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/19312/preview/1187013/india-vs-bangladesh-1st-t20i-bangladesh-india-2019-20

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 03, 2019, 01:14:53 AM

From what I have heard, the ICC was planning to come up with a rule limiting the participation of a player to a maximum of 2-3 T20 leagues per year. This would have been a big blow for some of the players, such as Sandeep Lamichhane, Rashid Khan and Ryan ten Doeschate. But as a result of the protests from players, they never implemented it.

If the ICC does not restrict these players participating in these leagues then gradually we will see players preferring these leagues than playing for their national team and we will see a situation like football where it will be hard for them get their top players for only major international tournaments and the ICC must intervene and do something to preserve ODI as well, now they are trying their best to revive Test matches and there will be a time they will try to revive ODI in the future Cheesy

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 02, 2019, 11:07:14 PM

It is November already and in around five months the IPL13 will start. A lot of cricket is ongoing now and the cricketing calendar has got very crowded. It is difficult to track all these tournaments. After the IPL, in a few months the T20 World Cup will be starting. And immediately after that, we will be shifting to the 2019–20 Big Bash League in Australia.

The past few weeks were also pretty crowded, with the South African tour of India, Sri Lankan tour of Pakistan and Australia, T20 qualifiers and the ongoing ENG/NZ and AUS/SL series.

Phew. I don't need to check online about any upcoming Cricket matches since I would only need to ask you. Good stuff. The year is almost over and my best Cricket memory from this year would be that insane and controversial World Cup ending.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 03, 2019, 01:14:53 AM

From what I have heard, the ICC was planning to come up with a rule limiting the participation of a player to a maximum of 2-3 T20 leagues per year. This would have been a big blow for some of the players, such as Sandeep Lamichhane, Rashid Khan and Ryan ten Doeschate. But as a result of the protests from players, they never implemented it.

Never knew about this. Its a good thing that the players protested since it would suck to not see players like Rashid Khan in SRH etc. ICC continues to come up with trash rules.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 03, 2019, 12:45:03 AM

All the countries are starting their own leagues and there are so much players needed for every tournament and it is good for cricket players who are flashy as they can make a living playing cricket around the globe and i think ICC will come up with some restrictions in the future to have some control so that International cricket will not get affected.

From what I have heard, the ICC was planning to come up with a rule limiting the participation of a player to a maximum of 2-3 T20 leagues per year. This would have been a big blow for some of the players, such as Sandeep Lamichhane, Rashid Khan and Ryan ten Doeschate. But as a result of the protests from players, they never implemented it.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on November 02, 2019, 08:20:39 AM

I see from tomorrow India vs Bangladesh series. I heard this news that their Shakib is ban or something? If this is true then I do not think Bangladesh will be able to give a fight against a team like India.

Shakib was banned for not informing the ICC about bookies approaching him, he was banned for technicality rather than participating in one and Bangladesh playing without their start player what chance do they have to win against India, if weather is not an issue i think about a complete domination from India Wink

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 02, 2019, 11:53:30 PM

A lot of the T20 leagues have sprung up all over the world and this is what made the cricketing calendar very congested. Almost every test playing nation (perhaps with the exception of Ireland and Sri Lanka) have started their own T20 leagues and even nations such as Nepal, Canada and Hong Kong have leagues ongoing in their territory. And don't forget about the T10 league (Abu Dhabi T10), which is about to start in less than two weeks from now.

All the countries are starting their own leagues and there are so much players needed for every tournament and it is good for cricket players who are flashy as they can make a living playing cricket around the globe and i think ICC will come up with some restrictions in the future to have some control so that International cricket will not get affected.

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Quote from: onrise on November 02, 2019, 11:54:55 PM

Its very few days actually where there is no big leagues or any series happening in the calendar year if included that IPL or big bash. Though IPL is much bigger than Big bash. So for people who are fond of cricket would be occupied quite often and also those who want to bet will have something or other daily.

IPL itself stretches for 2 months every year, and during that time all the other international cricketing activity comes to a halt. And now they are planning to expand the IPL by increasing the number of teams from 8 to 10. The ICC is not going to be happy with it, as it leaves them with less duration to schedule the bilaterals and the global tournaments.

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Quote from: FIFA worldcup on November 02, 2019, 11:19:41 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on November 02, 2019, 11:07:14 PM

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on November 02, 2019, 08:20:39 AM

Oh! yes.
I am not gonna miss IPL of-course. By the way, I am back with my usual nature. May be I will have few work to do in the next week end so possibly I will not come online for 2/3 days. But it's next week of course.

I see from tomorrow India vs Bangladesh series. I heard this news that their Shakib is ban or something? If this is true then I do not think Bangladesh will be able to give a fight against a team like India.

Thanks for reminding everyone about the IPL!!!

It is November already and in around five months the IPL13 will start. A lot of cricket is ongoing now and the cricketing calendar has got very crowded. It is difficult to track all these tournaments. After the IPL, in a few months the T20 World Cup will be starting. And immediately after that, we will be shifting to the 2019–20 Big Bash League in Australia.

The past few weeks were also pretty crowded, with the South African tour of India, Sri Lankan tour of Pakistan and Australia, T20 qualifiers and the ongoing ENG/NZ and AUS/SL series.

Cricketing calendar is always busy specially if you include the leagues matches like IPL or big bash etc. We have almost full year of cricket and there is hardly a big gap where we see no cricket being played.

Its very few days actually where there is no big leagues or any series happening in the calendar year if included that IPL or big bash. Though IPL is much bigger than Big bash. So for people who are fond of cricket would be occupied quite often and also those who want to bet will have something or other daily.

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Quote from: FIFA worldcup on November 02, 2019, 11:19:41 PM

Cricketing calendar is always busy specially if you include the leagues matches like IPL or big bash etc. We have almost full year of cricket and there is hardly a big gap where we see no cricket being played.

A lot of the T20 leagues have sprung up all over the world and this is what made the cricketing calendar very congested. Almost every test playing nation (perhaps with the exception of Ireland and Sri Lanka) have started their own T20 leagues and even nations such as Nepal, Canada and Hong Kong have leagues ongoing in their territory. And don't forget about the T10 league (Abu Dhabi T10), which is about to start in less than two weeks from now.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on November 02, 2019, 08:20:39 AM

Oh! yes.
I am not gonna miss IPL of-course. By the way, I am back with my usual nature. May be I will have few work to do in the next week end so possibly I will not come online for 2/3 days. But it's next week of course.

I see from tomorrow India vs Bangladesh series. I heard this news that their Shakib is ban or something? If this is true then I do not think Bangladesh will be able to give a fight against a team like India.

Thanks for reminding everyone about the IPL!!!

It is November already and in around five months the IPL13 will start. A lot of cricket is ongoing now and the cricketing calendar has got very crowded. It is difficult to track all these tournaments. After the IPL, in a few months the T20 World Cup will be starting. And immediately after that, we will be shifting to the 2019–20 Big Bash League in Australia.

The past few weeks were also pretty crowded, with the South African tour of India, Sri Lankan tour of Pakistan and Australia, T20 qualifiers and the ongoing ENG/NZ and AUS/SL series.

Cricketing calendar is always busy specially if you include the leagues matches like IPL or big bash etc. We have almost full year of cricket and there is hardly a big gap where we see no cricket being played.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on November 02, 2019, 08:20:39 AM

Oh! yes.
I am not gonna miss IPL of-course. By the way, I am back with my usual nature. May be I will have few work to do in the next week end so possibly I will not come online for 2/3 days. But it's next week of course.

I see from tomorrow India vs Bangladesh series. I heard this news that their Shakib is ban or something? If this is true then I do not think Bangladesh will be able to give a fight against a team like India.

Thanks for reminding everyone about the IPL!!!

It is November already and in around five months the IPL13 will start. A lot of cricket is ongoing now and the cricketing calendar has got very crowded. It is difficult to track all these tournaments. After the IPL, in a few months the T20 World Cup will be starting. And immediately after that, we will be shifting to the 2019–20 Big Bash League in Australia.

The past few weeks were also pretty crowded, with the South African tour of India, Sri Lankan tour of Pakistan and Australia, T20 qualifiers and the ongoing ENG/NZ and AUS/SL series.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 30, 2019, 06:00:50 AM

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Cool. Wondered where you were since you usually are very active here. Are you planning some kind of tournament again anytime soon(Like the previous IPL and World Cup tournaments) since I enjoyed them a lot?.

Oh! yes.
I am not gonna miss IPL of-course. By the way, I am back with my usual nature. May be I will have few work to do in the next week end so possibly I will not come online for 2/3 days. But it's next week of course.

I see from tomorrow India vs Bangladesh series. I heard this news that their Shakib is ban or something? If this is true then I do not think Bangladesh will be able to give a fight against a team like India.

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 02, 2019, 02:13:18 AM

That is just sad. Never heard of this player before, but this is an odd case. So many players got hit on the helmet and none of them suffered from such extreme problems which is why I don't think he is telling the full truth here.

People always have a misunderstanding about mental illness. One of my friends suffers from bipolar disorder, and at first he faced a lot of difficulty because his family members, relatives and friends could not fully understand his condition. Fortunately for him, after sometime his family members recognized that his actions are not voluntary and started sympathizing with him.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 01, 2019, 11:38:29 PM

Vermeulen has always maintained that the mental issues he suffers from resulted from a blow to his head, that he received during one of the ODI matches against India (a ball from Irfan Pathan hit his head). After that he suffered from various psychiatric problems and epilepsy. Vermeulen tried hard to get back to the national team in 2013-14, but was unable to do so, due to poor form. He played one test match in 2014 against Bangladesh, but was dropped from the squad after that.

That is just sad. Never heard of this player before, but this is an odd case. So many players got hit on the helmet and none of them suffered from such extreme problems which is why I don't think he is telling the full truth here.

Quote from: Sithara007 on November 01, 2019, 11:38:29 PM

His career ended in 2015, when he was handed a life ban from the Zimbabwe Cricket, for a racist comment. The last time I heard about him was in 2016, when he was playing club cricket for the Newquay Cricket Club (Cornwall Cricket League).

I guess his career ended the moment he completely lost it. This reminds me of Chris Benoit from the WWE who also suffered from mental health issues and killed himself and his family. This is why Maxwell is doing the right thing here.

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Quote from: ene1980 on November 01, 2019, 03:48:05 PM

Not heard about this incident but if he is going through depression or mental illness he should get the treatment and what is his situation now. Sad to hear that they need to wait for him to burn down something to identify his issues.

Vermeulen has always maintained that the mental issues he suffers from resulted from a blow to his head, that he received during one of the ODI matches against India (a ball from Irfan Pathan hit his head). After that he suffered from various psychiatric problems and epilepsy. Vermeulen tried hard to get back to the national team in 2013-14, but was unable to do so, due to poor form. He played one test match in 2014 against Bangladesh, but was dropped from the squad after that.

His career ended in 2015, when he was handed a life ban from the Zimbabwe Cricket, for a racist comment. The last time I heard about him was in 2016, when he was playing club cricket for the Newquay Cricket Club (Cornwall Cricket League).

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