ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] - page 1191.

ene1980

hero member

Activity: 2002

Merit: 535

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 31, 2019, 07:45:11 PM

It was Justin Langer who first spotted the issues with Maxwell. According to Langer, these issues were persisting for the last 12 months, and he was hesitant at firs about talking about it to him. Luckily, both Langer (coach) and his teammates have been supportive of Maxwell and hopefully he will be able to make a quick comeback to international cricket.

The best thing is that they identified the issue with Maxwell and they are treating him well before the T20 world cup so that he can make a return, the details of his mental issues are not public but he is going through hard times even though he was acting normal while he was having the microphone.

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 31, 2019, 07:45:11 PM

I have never heard about any international cricketer taking break from the game due to mental health issues, apart from that of Mark Vermeulen (Zimbabwe). In his case, it wasn't diagnosed until it became really worse. Vermeulen burnt down the Harare cricket academy in 2006, and was immediately suspended from the team. Two years before that, he was banned by the ECB.

Not heard about this incident but if he is going through depression or mental illness he should get the treatment and what is his situation now. Sad to hear that they need to wait for him to burn down something to identify his issues.

Sithara007

legendary

Activity: 3346

Merit: 1352

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Juggy777 on November 01, 2019, 07:49:17 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on November 01, 2019, 05:12:24 AM

One thing that I have noticed is that a lot of teams are taking the T20 world cup very seriously this time. Previously it was being regarded as a minor tournament, not as important as the ODI world cup. But that situation has changed now. Pakistan got a new T20 captain last month, so that the team could get stabilized before the world cup. And India and England has included several new comers in their T20 squad to give them an opportunity before the tournament. And players such as Maxwell are taking precautions, so that their participation in the tournament is guaranteed.

There’s nothing surprising in this as players get more money and fame when they win the T20 World Cup, also star performers get lucrative IPL deals hence each and every player is keen to put a good show there.

I think that the prize money for the T20 world cup is much lower than they have for the 50-over edition. For the Cricket World Cup 2019, the prize money for the winners stood at $4,000,000. On the other hand, for the 2016 T20 World Cup, the winners received $1,600,000 (won by West Indies). I am not expecting much change for the 2020 edition, which means that the 1st prize will be less than half of what England received for winning the CWC 2019.

But it is true that those who perform well can expect lucrative deals from various T20 franchises. I am not just talking about the IPL and the BBL. Some of the other leagues (CPL, BPL, GT20, PSL, MSL.etc) are also offering heavy salaries to star players. And for players from Associate nations such as George Munsey and JJ Smit, this will be a once in a lifetime opportunity to showcase their skills.

Juggy777

hero member

Activity: 2646

Merit: 686

Quote from: Avirunes on November 01, 2019, 03:36:51 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on October 31, 2019, 06:21:03 AM

After Shakib's ban another news coming out that Glenn Maxwell known as "The big show" has taken a break from the Cricket due to his Mental problems. i have never seen him angry or sad in the cricket field. it tells us about the pressure in International game or "grass is always greener on the other side".

Aussie cricket star Glenn Maxwell takes break from game for mental health reasons

Maxwell is really good and energetic guy. Sad to seem him taking a break for indefinite period. He is an explosive batsman and Australia will surely need his services in the upcoming WC.

Quote from: Haunebu on November 01, 2019, 02:02:50 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 31, 2019, 07:45:11 PM

It was Justin Langer who first spotted the issues with Maxwell. According to Langer, these issues were persisting for the last 12 months, and he was hesitant at firs about talking about it to him. Luckily, both Langer (coach) and his teammates have been supportive of Langer and hopefully he will be able to make a quick comeback to international cricket.

You mean Maxwell. Don't think Langer faced any such issues

. Anyway, I am confident that Maxwell decided to take this drastic step right now in order to prepare himself for the upcoming T-20 World Cup next year which is a great call.

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 31, 2019, 07:45:11 PM

I have never heard about any international cricketer taking break from the game due to mental health issues, apart from that of Mark Vermeulen (Zimbabwe). In his case, it wasn't diagnosed until it became really worse. Vermeulen burnt down the Harare cricket academy in 2006, and was immediately suspended from the team. Two years before that, he was banned by the ECB.

There were others like Jonathan Trott(England) etc. Check this article:

https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/cricketers-fought-battles-mental-health-issues-glenn-maxwell-6096732/

Never heard of Vermeulen, but he seems like an extreme case though.

It is good to take a break before it gets worse. You reminded me of Trott case, that was also such a shock. I thought that he might come back at one point since he was leaving too early but he didn't.

Maxwell has contributed so much to the team and it is a good think that the Australian board and officials are supportive of Maxwell's decision. The sooner the better and hopefully he will make in time before the WC happens

Maxwell indeed took a brave call to step away from cricket, and focus on his well being hopefully he’ll be fit and back in time for the T20 World Cup. @Sithara007 never heard of Vermeulen case but this is an extreme case, and it only proves that Maxwell was right to step away before he did any damage to himself or his team mates.

Quote from: Sithara007 on November 01, 2019, 05:12:24 AM

One thing that I have noticed is that a lot of teams are taking the T20 world cup very seriously this time. Previously it was being regarded as a minor tournament, not as important as the ODI world cup. But that situation has changed now. Pakistan got a new T20 captain last month, so that the team could get stabilized before the world cup. And India and England has included several new comers in their T20 squad to give them an opportunity before the tournament. And players such as Maxwell are taking precautions, so that their participation in the tournament is guaranteed.

There’s nothing surprising in this as players get more money and fame when they win the T20 World Cup, also star performers get lucrative IPL deals hence each and every player is keen to put a good show there.

Sithara007

legendary

Activity: 3346

Merit: 1352

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

One thing that I have noticed is that a lot of teams are taking the T20 world cup very seriously this time. Previously it was being regarded as a minor tournament, not as important as the ODI world cup. But that situation has changed now. Pakistan got a new T20 captain last month, so that the team could get stabilized before the world cup. And India and England has included several new comers in their T20 squad to give them an opportunity before the tournament. And players such as Maxwell are taking precautions, so that their participation in the tournament is guaranteed.

Avirunes

legendary

Activity: 3094

Merit: 1472

Quote from: JSRAW on October 31, 2019, 06:21:03 AM

After Shakib's ban another news coming out that Glenn Maxwell known as "The big show" has taken a break from the Cricket due to his Mental problems. i have never seen him angry or sad in the cricket field. it tells us about the pressure in International game or "grass is always greener on the other side".

Aussie cricket star Glenn Maxwell takes break from game for mental health reasons

Maxwell is really good and energetic guy. Sad to seem him taking a break for indefinite period. He is an explosive batsman and Australia will surely need his services in the upcoming WC.

Quote from: Haunebu on November 01, 2019, 02:02:50 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 31, 2019, 07:45:11 PM

It was Justin Langer who first spotted the issues with Maxwell. According to Langer, these issues were persisting for the last 12 months, and he was hesitant at firs about talking about it to him. Luckily, both Langer (coach) and his teammates have been supportive of Langer and hopefully he will be able to make a quick comeback to international cricket.

You mean Maxwell. Don't think Langer faced any such issues

. Anyway, I am confident that Maxwell decided to take this drastic step right now in order to prepare himself for the upcoming T-20 World Cup next year which is a great call.

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 31, 2019, 07:45:11 PM

I have never heard about any international cricketer taking break from the game due to mental health issues, apart from that of Mark Vermeulen (Zimbabwe). In his case, it wasn't diagnosed until it became really worse. Vermeulen burnt down the Harare cricket academy in 2006, and was immediately suspended from the team. Two years before that, he was banned by the ECB.

There were others like Jonathan Trott(England) etc. Check this article:

https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/cricketers-fought-battles-mental-health-issues-glenn-maxwell-6096732/

Never heard of Vermeulen, but he seems like an extreme case though.

It is good to take a break before it gets worse. You reminded me of Trott case, that was also such a shock. I thought that he might come back at one point since he was leaving too early but he didn't.

Maxwell has contributed so much to the team and it is a good think that the Australian board and officials are supportive of Maxwell's decision. The sooner the better and hopefully he will make in time before the WC happens

Haunebu

hero member

Activity: 3318

Merit: 989

www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 31, 2019, 07:45:11 PM

It was Justin Langer who first spotted the issues with Maxwell. According to Langer, these issues were persisting for the last 12 months, and he was hesitant at firs about talking about it to him. Luckily, both Langer (coach) and his teammates have been supportive of Langer and hopefully he will be able to make a quick comeback to international cricket.

You mean Maxwell. Don't think Langer faced any such issues

. Anyway, I am confident that Maxwell decided to take this drastic step right now in order to prepare himself for the upcoming T-20 World Cup next year which is a great call.

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 31, 2019, 07:45:11 PM

I have never heard about any international cricketer taking break from the game due to mental health issues, apart from that of Mark Vermeulen (Zimbabwe). In his case, it wasn't diagnosed until it became really worse. Vermeulen burnt down the Harare cricket academy in 2006, and was immediately suspended from the team. Two years before that, he was banned by the ECB.

There were others like Jonathan Trott(England) etc. Check this article:

https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/cricketers-fought-battles-mental-health-issues-glenn-maxwell-6096732/

Never heard of Vermeulen, but he seems like an extreme case though.

Sithara007

legendary

Activity: 3346

Merit: 1352

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

It was Justin Langer who first spotted the issues with Maxwell. According to Langer, these issues were persisting for the last 12 months, and he was hesitant at firs about talking about it to him. Luckily, both Langer (coach) and his teammates have been supportive of Maxwell and hopefully he will be able to make a quick comeback to international cricket.

I have never heard about any international cricketer taking break from the game due to mental health issues, apart from that of Mark Vermeulen (Zimbabwe). In his case, it wasn't diagnosed until it became really worse. Vermeulen burnt down the Harare cricket academy in 2006, and was immediately suspended from the team. Two years before that, he was banned by the ECB.

Haunebu

hero member

Activity: 3318

Merit: 989

www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 31, 2019, 11:01:44 AM

i did not witnessed that in Maxwell as he was speaking well with the commentators even in the recent matches but when you are a public figure you tend to hide your emotions and Maxwell masked that very well even though he was not in a proper frame of mind.

Maxwell cared a lot about the game and focused on every single mistake deeply. For example: Oct 2018:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD9oPpHCRqE

This just goes to show his passion and how much he was hurt right there. These mistakes compounded over time which is why he is taking a break now. I do hope he returns as a much better version of himself soon.

SaShiRaJaVu

hero member

Activity: 1694

Merit: 541

Quote from: Haunebu on October 31, 2019, 09:09:54 AM

Did you observe how Sreesanth behaved right after his ban? He is preparing his comeback now though I feel it is a little too late, but it would be great to see him play again. Coming to Maxwell, I understand your point, but I could notice how over-aggressive he tends to become sometimes.

This is why I felt he was having mental issues from sometime. Certain forms of aggression do suggest mental issues and this was one such example.

I was following his life after the ban, Sreesanth was doing television soap opera and body building and while he was playing he was aggressive in the field and get emotional all the time and i cannot figure out whether someone is having mental break down just by looking at them until he behaves oddly and i did not witnessed that in Maxwell as he was speaking well with the commentators even in the recent matches but when you are a public figure you tend to hide your emotions and Maxwell masked that very well even though he was not in a proper frame of mind.

Sithara007

legendary

Activity: 3346

Merit: 1352

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Haunebu on October 31, 2019, 09:09:54 AM

Did you observe how Sreesanth behaved right after his ban? He is preparing his comeback now though I feel it is a little too late, but it would be great to see him play again. Coming to Maxwell, I understand your point, but I could notice how over-aggressive he tends to become sometimes.

This is why I felt he was having mental issues from sometime. Certain forms of aggression do suggest mental issues and this was one such example.

Sreesanth is already 36 and he will be 37 when the ban period ends. He did the mistake of getting involved in team politics. As far as I know, even in his home state (Kerala), people are very divided about him. Once I talked to one of my colleagues from Kerala. He was very scathing about Sreesanth, saying that he had tarnished the reputation of the people from there. Also, he got involved in national politics as well. I heard that he is very close to one of the Congress leaders (Sasi Tharoor) and even fought elections in 2016 for the ruling party.

Haunebu

hero member

Activity: 3318

Merit: 989

www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 31, 2019, 08:19:15 AM

If aggression is seen as a mental issue then André Nel and Sreesanth will be admitted in mental hospital by now Cheesy

as they were too aggressive while playing cricket and these things happen when you are in a match and it has nothing to do with the mental breakdown because he was aggressive in a few matches, it is really unfortunate to see him going through this state and hopefully he will return in time of the world cup.

Did you observe how Sreesanth behaved right after his ban? He is preparing his comeback now though I feel it is a little too late, but it would be great to see him play again. Coming to Maxwell, I understand your point, but I could notice how over-aggressive he tends to become sometimes.

This is why I felt he was having mental issues from sometime. Certain forms of aggression do suggest mental issues and this was one such example.

SaShiRaJaVu

hero member

Activity: 1694

Merit: 541

Quote from: Haunebu on October 31, 2019, 07:24:14 AM

This is why this news is not much of a shocker to me. He is one of the greatest T-20 and ODI cricketers ever and he did the right thing by tackling his mental issues. I do hope he is back in full form(Physically and mentally) before the T-20 World Cup.

If aggression is seen as a mental issue then André Nel and Sreesanth will be admitted in mental hospital by now Cheesy

as they were too aggressive while playing cricket and these things happen when you are in a match and it has nothing to do with the mental breakdown because he was aggressive in a few matches, it is really unfortunate to see him going through this state and hopefully he will return in time of the world cup.

JSRAW

legendary

Activity: 2184

Merit: 1540

^^ I might be wrong on my statement but he has a reputation of being a funny guy. the only incident i remember (and one in IPL i suppose) he getting angry way back to 2015-2016 when he was playing against the Sri lanka where Mahela Jayawardene & co were performing some dirty tricks or vodoo (cricketing point of view) on the last ball of the inning.

Haunebu

hero member

Activity: 3318

Merit: 989

www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games

Quote from: JSRAW on October 31, 2019, 06:21:03 AM

After Shakib's ban another news coming out that Glenn Maxwell known as "The big show" has taken a break from the Cricket due to his Mental problems. i have never seen him angry or sad in the cricket field. it tells us about the pressure in International game or "grass is always greener on the other side".

Aussie cricket star Glenn Maxwell takes break from game for mental health reasons

Never seen him angry? Really? I saw him lose his temper on more than 1 occasion though he never got into duels with other players. He is definitely not one of the calm ones, but he stays in control which is why I always appreciated his style.

This is why this news is not much of a shocker to me. He is one of the greatest T-20 and ODI cricketers ever and he did the right thing by tackling his mental issues. I do hope he is back in full form(Physically and mentally) before the T-20 World Cup.

SaShiRaJaVu

hero member

Activity: 1694

Merit: 541

Quote from: JSRAW on October 31, 2019, 06:21:03 AM

After Shakib's ban another news coming out that Glenn Maxwell known as "The big show" has taken a break from the Cricket due to his Mental problems. i have never seen him angry or sad in the cricket field. it tells us about the pressure in International game or "grass is always greener on the other side".

This is the first player who is taking a break from cricket completely because of mental problems and i am glad he identified his issues and he asked the cricket board for a break and they are supporting him, the way in which he performed in the first T20 and he way he was fielding nor talking during those period you will not identify something was wrong with him, hope he returns and be alright there may be huge pressure or personal issues to get to a stage to take a break like this.

JSRAW

legendary

Activity: 2184

Merit: 1540

After Shakib's ban another news coming out that Glenn Maxwell known as "The big show" has taken a break from the Cricket due to his Mental problems. i have never seen him angry or sad in the cricket field. it tells us about the pressure in International game or "grass is always greener on the other side".

Aussie cricket star Glenn Maxwell takes break from game for mental health reasons

romero121

legendary

Activity: 3234

Merit: 1214

Casinopunkz - Anonymous Crypto Casino

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 30, 2019, 11:38:20 AM

All the franchise cricket has some shady things happening, Pakistan players caught recently in the spot fixing scandal and IPL...

This reminds me of Sharjeel Khan; it seems like he's gonna be a part of the upcoming PSL players draft! It's amazing; it has been 5 years since he last played an international-level match. Feels like yesterday TBH.

Let's see if his batting style is still as aggressive as before. I hope he proves himself in the upcoming PSL and makes way to the international cricket again.

It is hard to have a quick comeback to the team. Already there will be lots and lots of politics. Overcoming all those politics eleven players get into the playing eleven. Now when there arises an issue, he gets eliminated easily. In the history of cricket very few have returned back to cricket after the punishment. India is most popular for these match fixing issues, after the captaincy of Dhoni this has reduced. In India even in the IPL match fixinga were done and few teams were restricted to be a part of the tournament for one or two years.

Haunebu

hero member

Activity: 3318

Merit: 989

www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 30, 2019, 10:24:03 AM

I have always regarded the Sunrisers Hyderabad and the Chennai Super Kings as franchises prone to shady deals. The CSK were suspended for 2 years, and only returned to the IPL in 2018. CSK is owned by N Srinivasan, while the SRH is owned by his close friend and politician Kalanithi Maran. My guess is that rather than Shakib, it is the CSK/SRH franchises that are behind the scourge of match fixing. I would say that Shakib was made a scapegoat, so that Srinivasan and Maran could escape.

Nonsense. Don't assume stuff without providing concrete proof. SRH was never accused of fixing even once while CSK and RR are the only 2 franchises that have engaged in shady deals and this has been proved.

Shakib is not some innocent child who was forced to commit these crimes. He knew damn well what he was doing and he deserves this punishment(1 year would have been enough though).

Advice : Stop making pointless accusations.

SaShiRaJaVu

hero member

Activity: 1694

Merit: 541

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 30, 2019, 10:24:03 AM

Just noticed the post by JSRAW. So all this happened during the IPL 11, just before the match between Sunrisers Hyderabad v Kings XI Punjab. This actually raises a few uncomfortable questions about the IPL itself. First of all, how did the bookies managed to approach players representing the Sunrisers Hyderabad? Second, if they were able to approach Shakib, what is the guarantee that they didn't approached the other players? And thirdly, what is the surety that all of the SRH players turned down their offer?

All the franchise cricket has some shady things happening, Pakistan players caught recently in the spot fixing scandal and IPL being the biggest money maker in the market you are bound you expect these kind of things and the bookies will try their best to get inside information and most probably fix the matches so that they can win millions every game and this is a huge black market for these illegal activities and majority of the times people who are close to the team management will be behind these and so is the reason the ICC has implemented some strict policies regarding it to avoid these instances.

Sithara007

legendary

Activity: 3346

Merit: 1352

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Just noticed the post by JSRAW. So all this happened during the IPL 11, just before the match between Sunrisers Hyderabad v Kings XI Punjab. This actually raises a few uncomfortable questions about the IPL itself. First of all, how did the bookies managed to approach players representing the Sunrisers Hyderabad? Second, if they were able to approach Shakib, what is the guarantee that they didn't approached the other players? And thirdly, what is the surety that all of the SRH players turned down their offer?

I have always regarded the Sunrisers Hyderabad and the Chennai Super Kings as franchises prone to shady deals. The CSK were suspended for 2 years, and only returned to the IPL in 2018. CSK is owned by N Srinivasan, while the SRH is owned by his close friend and politician Kalanithi Maran. My guess is that rather than Shakib, it is the CSK/SRH franchises that are behind the scourge of match fixing. I would say that Shakib was made a scapegoat, so that Srinivasan and Maran could escape.

Topic: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] - page 1191. (Read 173705 times)