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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on October 30, 2019, 03:56:27 AM

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Also, where is @Royse777? Don't see him around much these days.

Still alive :-D
Not following cricket much from last few weeks. Been busy with some real life stuffs. Hopefully from next week I will be regular again.
Watching cricket obviously. Sri Lanka will lose this match as well LOL

Cool. Wondered where you were since you usually are very active here. Are you planning some kind of tournament again anytime soon(Like the previous IPL and World Cup tournaments) since I enjoyed them a lot?

I placed a risky bet on Sri Lanka and looks like Australia are set to demolish them, but it was a small bet luckily. Too many one sided matches these days.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 30, 2019, 02:36:11 AM

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Also, where is @Royse777? Don't see him around much these days.

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Not following cricket much from last few weeks. Been busy with some real life stuffs. Hopefully from next week I will be regular again.
Watching cricket obviously. Sri Lanka will lose this match as well LOL

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Quote from: Avirunes on October 29, 2019, 03:36:45 PM

I guess he can make it 1 year as the article says:

I highly doubt it. It would take a miracle for him to bounce back after this offence even if the ban is just for an year. Even if he returns, he will be constantly booed probably just like Smith and Warner which is why this is probably his retirement time.

Quote from: JSRAW on October 30, 2019, 01:53:12 AM

I heard from unverified source that one of the BCB's official gave his contact number or introduce him to a Bookie way back in 2016-17. as of now he accepted the 3 charges and punishment.

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1. engage in Corrupt Conduct - in relation to the Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe Tri-Series in January 2018 and / or the 2018 IPL

2. Article 2.4.4 – Failure to disclose to the ACU full details of any approaches or invitations he received to engage in Corrupt Conduct - in relation to a second approach in respect of the Tri-Series in January 2018

3. Article 2.4.4 – Failure to disclose to the ACU full details of any approaches or invitations he received to engage in Corrupt Conduct - in relation to an IPL 2018 match between Sunrisers Hyderabad v Kings XI Punjab on 26 April 2018.

Damn. This is serious stuff. I can't remember the last time a popular sub-continent player got involved in such stuff. Also, where is @Royse777? Don't see him around much these days.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 29, 2019, 09:41:59 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on October 29, 2019, 07:38:40 AM

Looks political witch hunt to me, we are suppose to believe that after 2 years suddenly ICC woke up and got their shit together. Timing is fucked up here without any doubt and as far as i understand he denied the Bookie's offer. 6-18 months sounds harsh as well - for not reporting-

Probably, but Shakib is not as innocent as you guys make him out to be. As I mentioned earlier, both are at fault here. He is definitely one of the best Cricket players(Already a legend in my opinion), but he has made a lot of mistakes before and this could probably have been one of them.

I do hope that he bows out of this sport gracefully though somehow despite all these allegations even though this seems highly unlikely at this point. I wonder how the Bangladesh team will recover from these consecutive blows.

Tbh i am sad to hear about shakib, because i rate highly him as a cricketer. you are right that he is not innocent as we think, he did broke rules by not reporting the couple of incidents, may be more? and now paying the price. but he's not alone in this game and i believe BCB has a big role in it, my understanding is that at start BCB was saving his ass but after drama between players and board they threw him under the bus. (agree with @iwantapony)

I heard from unverified source that one of the BCB's official gave his contact number or introduce him to a Bookie way back in 2016-17. as of now he accepted the 3 charges and punishment.

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1. engage in Corrupt Conduct - in relation to the Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe Tri-Series in January 2018 and / or the 2018 IPL

2. Article 2.4.4 – Failure to disclose to the ACU full details of any approaches or invitations he received to engage in Corrupt Conduct - in relation to a second approach in respect of the Tri-Series in January 2018

3. Article 2.4.4 – Failure to disclose to the ACU full details of any approaches or invitations he received to engage in Corrupt Conduct - in relation to an IPL 2018 match between Sunrisers Hyderabad v Kings XI Punjab on 26 April 2018.

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Quote from: Avirunes on October 29, 2019, 03:36:45 PM

Seems pretty harsh even though he was able to skip the maximum penalty of 5 years but still 2 years is harsh for a player especially when a player is near to his career end in 3-4 years but then again maybe its for the best to bury a lesson deep down in the brain of other players.
I guess he can make it 1 year as the article says:
In order to avoid the one-year suspended sentence coming into effect, Shakib must not commit any offence under the ACU code during the initial one-year suspension, and participate regularly in anti-corruption education and/or rehabilitation programmes.

I doubt he will be back in the team again as all these events started after Shakib lead the entire team to strike against the BCB and it was a rippling effect after that and now he is banned due to corruption and that too for not informing the ICC about bookies approaching him and historically we have seen that players being accused of such will find it hard to return to the team but in his case even Sheikh Haseena the Bangladesh PM is also supporting him and whether this will make any impact for his cricket career is to be seen.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on October 29, 2019, 03:05:03 PM

Quote from: Avirunes on October 29, 2019, 02:06:46 PM

He was well aware of all the rules but still didn't reported. Timing might make it suspicious that board pulled some strings and framed him (is what some guys here might be thinking) but he was well aware of all the policies and he still didn't reported the authority.
It had to come out one day or another.

I never expected this to happen all of a sudden, he was picked in the team for the tour of India and how these came to light all of a sudden, if he violated the ICC policies regarding match fixing then there is no point in appealing against it but it looks really harsh to ban a player this long for not informing the ICC about someone approaching to fix the match, if he done anything then he should have being banned for life but this one was too harsh and it will be difficult for him to make a comeback again as he cannot play cricket further and his cricketing career is almost over by this ban.

Seems pretty harsh even though he was able to skip the maximum penalty of 5 years but still 2 years is harsh for a player especially when a player is near to his career end in 3-4 years but then again maybe its for the best to bury a lesson deep down in the brain of other players.

I guess he can make it 1 year as the article says:

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He will be free to resume international cricket on October 29, 2020, subject to his satisfying the conditions in respect of the suspended part of the sanction.

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In order to avoid the one-year suspended sentence coming into effect, Shakib must not commit any offence under the ACU code during the initial one-year suspension, and participate regularly in anti-corruption education and/or rehabilitation programmes.

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Quote from: Avirunes on October 29, 2019, 02:06:46 PM

He was well aware of all the rules but still didn't reported. Timing might make it suspicious that board pulled some strings and framed him (is what some guys here might be thinking) but he was well aware of all the policies and he still didn't reported the authority.
It had to come out one day or another.

I never expected this to happen all of a sudden, he was picked in the team for the tour of India and how these came to light all of a sudden, if he violated the ICC policies regarding match fixing then there is no point in appealing against it but it looks really harsh to ban a player this long for not informing the ICC about someone approaching to fix the match, if he done anything then he should have being banned for life but this one was too harsh and it will be difficult for him to make a comeback again as he cannot play cricket further and his cricketing career is almost over by this ban.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 29, 2019, 12:45:02 PM

Quote from: Ayiranorea on October 29, 2019, 12:21:59 PM

He has agreed that some bookies contacted him for match fixing. The problem he facing is, this has to be reported to the International Cricket Council. He didn't do that, and now for this reason he has been banned from the cricket team for two years. I don't think he'll get back to form if he gets into the playing eleven after two years.

To get a ban now after Shakib al Hasan leading the strike against the BCB has everything to do with the ban and i was wondering how can these players strike against a cricket board and now we saw the final result, the man who was leading the strike is now banned from cricket altogether and his career is almost over and even if the ban is removed i do not think that he will be selected in the team once again. It is really unfortunate to see the Bangladesh's legendary players career to end like this.

I think it was a right decision to Ban Shakib al Hasan. It atleast gives a message to all the felow players that Bangladesh is not like West Indies and won't tolerate any sort of indiscipline even if it leads to banning their best player. However I hope that this doesn't turns all the players against Bangladesh Cricket Board just like we saw in the case of West Indies. Even though more specifically this ban was given by ICC and BCB and their prime minister has said that Bangladesh still supports Shakib no matter what.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 29, 2019, 01:16:22 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 29, 2019, 12:47:39 PM

Well... at least some of the blame should be taken by Shakib now. He is one of the most experienced international cricketers, having represented the national side in more than 300 matches. He was aware of all the ICC rules and regulations, and still chose to ignore them (for reasons only known to him). I still believe that the timing is very suspicious and the BCB is going for revenge. But how can you justify him, when he has admitted to the charges that have been levelled against him by the ICC?

As a player he should be well aware of the rules and regulation of ICC and i am sure the BCB does knew about these development too and once Shakib al Hasan regrouped the entire team members to strike against them the BCB had other plans and they did everything in their power to show the rest of the team members of the implications they will be facing if they are fighting against the board. It is really unfortunate to see his career end like this.

He was well aware of all the rules but still didn't reported. Timing might make it suspicious that board pulled some strings and framed him (is what some guys here might be thinking) but he was well aware of all the policies and he still didn't reported the authority.

It had to come out one day or another.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 29, 2019, 12:47:39 PM

Well... at least some of the blame should be taken by Shakib now. He is one of the most experienced international cricketers, having represented the national side in more than 300 matches. He was aware of all the ICC rules and regulations, and still chose to ignore them (for reasons only known to him). I still believe that the timing is very suspicious and the BCB is going for revenge. But how can you justify him, when he has admitted to the charges that have been levelled against him by the ICC?

As a player he should be well aware of the rules and regulation of ICC and i am sure the BCB does knew about these development too and once Shakib al Hasan regrouped the entire team members to strike against them the BCB had other plans and they did everything in their power to show the rest of the team members of the implications they will be facing if they are fighting against the board. It is really unfortunate to see his career end like this.

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Quote from: Ayiranorea on October 29, 2019, 12:21:59 PM

He has agreed that some bookies contacted him for match fixing. The problem he facing is, this has to be reported to the International Cricket Council. He didn't do that, and now for this reason he has been banned from the cricket team for two years. I don't think he'll get back to form if he gets into the playing eleven after two years.

Well... at least some of the blame should be taken by Shakib now. He is one of the most experienced international cricketers, having represented the national side in more than 300 matches. He was aware of all the ICC rules and regulations, and still chose to ignore them (for reasons only known to him). I still believe that the timing is very suspicious and the BCB is going for revenge. But how can you justify him, when he has admitted to the charges that have been levelled against him by the ICC?

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It will be shame for all of us if you guys still think BCB has nothing to do with this.

* Cricketers strike.
* Next day BCB Went hard on press Conference
* Then BCB president meeting with players and they are back to the game. Though News came out BCB president was very angry at players during the meeting with players.
* Shakib didn't join the camp first day but 2nd day he was there for few hours.
* 1-hour meeting with Shakib & BCB president. No one knows what happened.
* Shakib Banned for 1 year.

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Quote from: Ayiranorea on October 29, 2019, 12:21:59 PM

He has agreed that some bookies contacted him for match fixing. The problem he facing is, this has to be reported to the International Cricket Council. He didn't do that, and now for this reason he has been banned from the cricket team for two years. I don't think he'll get back to form if he gets into the playing eleven after two years.

To get a ban now after Shakib al Hasan leading the strike against the BCB has everything to do with the ban and i was wondering how can these players strike against a cricket board and now we saw the final result, the man who was leading the strike is now banned from cricket altogether and his career is almost over and even if the ban is removed i do not think that he will be selected in the team once again. It is really unfortunate to see the Bangladesh's legendary players career to end like this.

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Quote from: Ayiranorea on October 29, 2019, 12:21:59 PM

The problem he facing is, this has to be reported to the International Cricket Council. He didn't do that, and now for this reason he has been banned from the cricket team for two years. I don't think he'll get back to form if he gets into the playing eleven after two years.

This is so sad and pitiful ending after the wonderful run in world cup in England; at some stage he was a too good and commentators started predicting him for player of the tournament but now it seems end of his great career. He also a good performer in IPL for kolkatta team. The reason for banning seems reasonable but an international player must be having enough hectic schedules and might have missed to open to team management on what happened about match fixing.

I mean he might have ignored those approaches like some other investors calls (please remember if you are considerably rich/celebrity, how many agents/sponsors will try to contact for whatever reasons) or might have failed to observe that was the way bookies do approach. Let's hope Shakib will clear all these mess and come back to cricket much stronger. Bangladesh people definitely need him to take their level in cricket to some more higher position.

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Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on October 29, 2019, 11:56:09 AM

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He has been banned from all forms of cricket for the next two years (with one year suspended). He is already 32 years old, and this could possibly mean that his international cricketing career is over for all practical purposes. Staying away from the game for 12 months and then attempting a comeback is not something very easy to do. It looks like he will be looking at other career options in the meantime. BTW, more than Shakib, this is going to have a negative impact on the performance of the Bangladesh team. They badly needed him now.

Damn that is so fast, i thought he was selected in the team for their Indian tour and now he is banned for corruption, it is real bad for the Bangladesh team as he was their best players ever and this ban looks like his career as a cricketer is over, the dispute with the BCB and now the ban things are fishy as hell regarding the circumstances but he needs to spend a lot of money to prove his innocence.

He has agreed that some bookies contacted him for match fixing. The problem he facing is, this has to be reported to the International Cricket Council. He didn't do that, and now for this reason he has been banned from the cricket team for two years. I don't think he'll get back to form if he gets into the playing eleven after two years.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 29, 2019, 08:16:25 AM

He has been banned from all forms of cricket for the next two years (with one year suspended). He is already 32 years old, and this could possibly mean that his international cricketing career is over for all practical purposes. Staying away from the game for 12 months and then attempting a comeback is not something very easy to do. It looks like he will be looking at other career options in the meantime. BTW, more than Shakib, this is going to have a negative impact on the performance of the Bangladesh team. They badly needed him now.

Damn that is so fast, i thought he was selected in the team for their Indian tour and now he is banned for corruption, it is real bad for the Bangladesh team as he was their best players ever and this ban looks like his career as a cricketer is over, the dispute with the BCB and now the ban things are fishy as hell regarding the circumstances but he needs to spend a lot of money to prove his innocence.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 29, 2019, 07:38:40 AM

Looks political witch hunt to me, we are suppose to believe that after 2 years suddenly ICC woke up and got their shit together. Timing is fucked up here without any doubt and as far as i understand he denied the Bookie's offer. 6-18 months sounds harsh as well - for not reporting-

Probably, but Shakib is not as innocent as you guys make him out to be. As I mentioned earlier, both are at fault here. He is definitely one of the best Cricket players(Already a legend in my opinion), but he has made a lot of mistakes before and this could probably have been one of them.

I do hope that he bows out of this sport gracefully though somehow despite all these allegations even though this seems highly unlikely at this point. I wonder how the Bangladesh team will recover from these consecutive blows.

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I can see that the Bangladesh Cricket Board has revived the practise of harakiri. They have done that on their own national team. Can you imagine a Bangladeshi side without Shakib al Hassan? That guy was the backbone for the Bangladeshis for the last so many years. He was the sole Bangladeshi player who had performed well during the CWC 2019. What to say... Bangladesh will become another Zimbabwe now....

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 29, 2019, 08:16:25 AM

He has been banned from all forms of cricket for the next two years (with one year suspended). He is already 32 years old, and this could possibly mean that his international cricketing career is over for all practical purposes. Staying away from the game for 12 months and then attempting a comeback is not something very easy to do. It looks like he will be looking at other career options in the meantime. BTW, more than Shakib, this is going to have a negative impact on the performance of the Bangladesh team. They badly needed him now.

I think this is more a political issue. Bangladesh team has a brilliant guy and he has been accused of this shit. Since he was leading the strike called by the Bangladeshi players, he has been a victim. I don't know what exactly happened though. If it happened long ago, why this has been brought now right after the strike?
Politics will destroy the sub continental cricket someday. More or less all the subcontinental cricket teams are affected by either internal politics or external.
Bangladesh will have a worst series with us. That's sad.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 29, 2019, 07:38:40 AM

Looks political witch hunt to me, we are suppose to believe that after 2 years suddenly ICC woke up and got their shit together. Timing is fucked up here without any doubt and as far as i understand he denied the Bookie's offer. 6-18 months sounds harsh as well - for not reporting-

If the bookies approached him and Shakib al Hassan did not report them to the authorities when he was approached then he will seriously get into trouble as per the ICC policies and with the cold war between BCB and Shakib al Hassan it is possible they have hidden these things from the ICC in the past but now they will not be holding back and it will have an impact in his career as well.

He has been banned from all forms of cricket for the next two years (with one year suspended). He is already 32 years old, and this could possibly mean that his international cricketing career is over for all practical purposes. Staying away from the game for 12 months and then attempting a comeback is not something very easy to do. It looks like he will be looking at other career options in the meantime. BTW, more than Shakib, this is going to have a negative impact on the performance of the Bangladesh team. They badly needed him now.

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