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Cricket is only the place for the players to perform. We cannot make players in  cricket matches because in International team we need good planner, good hard hitters, good pressure handlers, good bowlers like Muhammad Amir when he came in International team. We need good partnership builders and strong mindset players but now our team lack in everything. No single player is available in the team ,we saw their performance in T20 World Cup where they could not chase only 120 runs . Pakistani team should sink in water due to disrespect.But they are living their life happy and we won the World Cup 15 years ago and now we have no strong team . Players have no conversation with each other and that is also big cause of failure.
Basically I think the main reason is the references. Means the selection committee always give the chance to those players who have strong references. Or we can say they give chance who gave money to the selection committee. Means directly or indirectly corruption is interfering. And selection committee is not giving the chance to those who has the natural talents.
And one is the most important thing which effect on our national team is match fixing. Many of our players are involved in it. Well if Pakistani team really want to remain in the top teams so PCB should resolve these issues.
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U - 19 team of any country is a future of  country and PCB should work on this because young talent could be judge by the tournaments of young players. But PCB is now focusing on Champion Trophy because Pakistan will be host of that tournament and all teams of World will participate in this tournament. Pakistan Cricket is thinking to earn money but they are not working to rise the talent and young players will get money from them and they don't want to invest on that . That is cheap thinking of PCB but U don't like that because for my country that decision is not good.U- 19 teams tournaments are very less in Pakistan but they are important for the country. We saw bad performance of Pakistani team in T20 World cup, this is only due to lack of tournaments of U19 players.
Exactly this is a big deal. And PCB is in it. They are hosting the champion trophy therefore they can't focus on the U19 teams and can't consume the funds on them because they have a big challenge ahead means the champion trophy. We know that how the economic situation of the Pakistan and in this situation the security the management means everything has some cost. So in this situation PCB can't focus on U19 teams. But that's right that the U19 teams are the real future of a main cricket team. I hope after the champion trophy PCB will focus on new talents.
Cricket is only the place for the players to perform. We cannot make players in  cricket matches because in International team we need good planner, good hard hitters, good pressure handlers, good bowlers like Muhammad Amir when he came in International team. We need good partnership builders and strong mindset players but now our team lack in everything. No single player is available in the team ,we saw their performance in T20 World Cup where they could not chase only 120 runs . Pakistani team should sink in water due to disrespect.But they are living their life happy and we won the World Cup 15 years ago and now we have no strong team . Players have no conversation with each other and that is also big cause of failure.
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U - 19 team of any country is a future of  country and PCB should work on this because young talent could be judge by the tournaments of young players. But PCB is now focusing on Champion Trophy because Pakistan will be host of that tournament and all teams of World will participate in this tournament. Pakistan Cricket is thinking to earn money but they are not working to rise the talent and young players will get money from them and they don't want to invest on that . That is cheap thinking of PCB but U don't like that because for my country that decision is not good.U- 19 teams tournaments are very less in Pakistan but they are important for the country. We saw bad performance of Pakistani team in T20 World cup, this is only due to lack of tournaments of U19 players.
Exactly this is a big deal. And PCB is in it. They are hosting the champion trophy therefore they can't focus on the U19 teams and can't consume the funds on them because they have a big challenge ahead means the champion trophy. We know that how the economic situation of the Pakistan and in this situation the security the management means everything has some cost. So in this situation PCB can't focus on U19 teams. But that's right that the U19 teams are the real future of a main cricket team. I hope after the champion trophy PCB will focus on new talents.
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ICC should work on development of cricket. ICC should provide opportunity to the players that are young and they want to become big players , when they will play out of the country,they will face different environment and they will see good opportunities and they will develop new skills. In practical life , skills matters a lot because when you will face the all type of batters and bowlers and you will face difficult situations ,you will be more prepared and you will get more chance of learning.Because for every young person, experience matters a lot and they will be big players if they will play against big players and they will perform well against big players. In International matches, there should be trained players who played well in all countries and they are in good form.

Nowadays we hardly witness any tours from the A, U-23 and U-19 teams. With T20 franchise leagues dominating cricket scenario, these tours have become obsolete. But the problem is that T20 leagues are not a great place for emerging players to showcase their talent. For that they need the U-23 and U-19 matches. When Rambo was the PCB head, he organized the Pakistan Junior League (PJL) for U-19 players. Such tournaments can be ideal for younger players. But after one season, it was scrapped.
U - 19 team of any country is a future of  country and PCB should work on this because young talent could be judge by the tournaments of young players. But PCB is now focusing on Champion Trophy because Pakistan will be host of that tournament and all teams of World will participate in this tournament. Pakistan Cricket is thinking to earn money but they are not working to rise the talent and young players will get money from them and they don't want to invest on that . That is cheap thinking of PCB but U don't like that because for my country that decision is not good.U- 19 teams tournaments are very less in Pakistan but they are important for the country. We saw bad performance of Pakistani team in T20 World cup, this is only due to lack of tournaments of U19 players.
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BCCI is currently having two advantages which are helping them for having good and quick development in game one Indian economy is having good growth and second they are most populated country in the world with we have two more countries Pakistan and Bangladesh but sadly their economy is having no growth like India so they are having lacking of sponsors otherwise surely we will have good cricket system and teams in these countries as well with right now it's all about money which is helping for having good and solid things around them.

But as now we are heading for the new era in cricket we are having good changes this T20i format is bringing many countries in this game which is better specially recently we are having USA which hosts World Cup and now also having MLC which is good for the development of this game around the world.
I also think India strong economy and large population have helped cricket develop well in country. But it is sad that neighboring countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh with many talented cricketers are struggling due to financial problems. They lack sponsors and resources making it hard to build strong cricket system. However new T20I format and the entry of new countries like USA into sport are positive steps towards making cricket global game. World Cup and MLC being hosted in USA is big deal and I believe it will help make cricket more popular worldwide. With new teams and leagues coming in cricket is entering an exciting phase of growth and competition.
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ICC should work on development of cricket. ICC should provide opportunity to the players that are young and they want to become big players , when they will play out of the country,they will face different environment and they will see good opportunities and they will develop new skills. In practical life , skills matters a lot because when you will face the all type of batters and bowlers and you will face difficult situations ,you will be more prepared and you will get more chance of learning.Because for every young person, experience matters a lot and they will be big players if they will play against big players and they will perform well against big players. In International matches, there should be trained players who played well in all countries and they are in good form.

Nowadays we hardly witness any tours from the A, U-23 and U-19 teams. With T20 franchise leagues dominating cricket scenario, these tours have become obsolete. But the problem is that T20 leagues are not a great place for emerging players to showcase their talent. For that they need the U-23 and U-19 matches. When Rambo was the PCB head, he organized the Pakistan Junior League (PJL) for U-19 players. Such tournaments can be ideal for younger players. But after one season, it was scrapped.
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According to my opinion in under 19 cricket players are still in developing phase and it is difficult to predict which one will win, while their playing structure and domestic performance of the team is very important role in their selection. Sri Lanka under 19 team is a good team selection but England under 19 team structure is very best So I want to see England under 19 team to win test cricket match but in gane anything can happen let's see who will win.
Yes exactly, everyone has their own point of view and it doesn't matter which team won series and which not. According to me both team performed greatly in this series Under 19s of Sri Lanka and England. I really enjoyed all games of this series and in 1 st game, Sri Lanka U19 team showed brilliant struggle and their effort was totally amazing. But in next two games their team played very slowly and did not made good runs and their bowlers also did not bowled good and did not stop batsman of England for low runs that's why their team lose these two games and also lose this series. Now both of them will play next series Test games and I believe that in this series Sri Lanka U19 team perform better and they will not repeat mistakes they made in past  games. 1 st unofficial test game will played today and I choose Sri Lanka U19 team in game who will win game.
Nearly two decades back we were having strong systems in many countries which were doing good work for the development of their game and having teams with U-19, U-23 and A team were having regularly tours of the different countries for the experience and development of their game but as we have changes like T20i and now franchise leagues things are taking changes, and we are having no good number of tours for these youngsters which are important because tours like these are working good for them and game as well.

Few boards are not able to handle these things which are surely problem because they are having limited sources, but we need some good support from the ICC for this as we are having things like these in FIFA which is doing good work for the development of the game.
ICC should work on development of cricket. ICC should provide opportunity to the players that are young and they want to become big players , when they will play out of the country,they will face different environment and they will see good opportunities and they will develop new skills. In practical life , skills matters a lot because when you will face the all type of batters and bowlers and you will face difficult situations ,you will be more prepared and you will get more chance of learning.Because for every young person, experience matters a lot and they will be big players if they will play against big players and they will perform well against big players. In International matches, there should be trained players who played well in all countries and they are in good form.
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BCCI took great step to give rest to big players of team amf they gave chance to  youngesters because BCCI can't test youngesters against big team like Australia and England but they can check the capability and stamina of players against small teams like Zimbabwe and Namibia. But Zimbabwe team played well in first T20 and Sikander Raza was a match changer in this match but Indian team did come back and and performed well in second match and won the match by high margin. Two slots are available in Indian Cricket team and two new Youngesters will fill that space and we will see that Indian team will be strong in future because whole country love cricket.
BCCI is currently having two advantages which are helping them for having good and quick development in game one Indian economy is having good growth and second they are most populated country in the world with we have two more countries Pakistan and Bangladesh but sadly their economy is having no growth like India so they are having lacking of sponsors otherwise surely we will have good cricket system and teams in these countries as well with right now it's all about money which is helping for having good and solid things around them.

But as now we are heading for the new era in cricket we are having good changes this T20i format is bringing many countries in this game which is better specially recently we are having USA which hosts World Cup and now also having MLC which is good for the development of this game around the world.
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BCCI took great step to give rest to big players of team amf they gave chance to  youngesters because BCCI can't test youngesters against big team like Australia and England but they can check the capability and stamina of players against small teams like Zimbabwe and Namibia. But Zimbabwe team played well in first T20 and Sikander Raza was a match changer in this match but Indian team did come back and and performed well in second match and won the match by high margin. Two slots are available in Indian Cricket team and two new Youngesters will fill that space and we will see that Indian team will be strong in future because whole country love cricket.
Yes you are right that is the good decision because they are giving chances to new talents. If they are giving rest to big players and giving the chance to new players so BCCI want to select more valuable players for the team because they are good in cricket. I have seen in both Women Cricket and Men Cricket. BCCI is playing a big role in cricket. And both teams are strong. While we can see how Indian Men team won the T20 World Cup and in Women Cricket how Indian team is playing with South Africa Women team. So in both cases they are strong. So if they are giving chance to new talents so this is really good decision.

One thing India has is a good supply of young cricketers. And another thing that India does really well is, it doesn’t matter how they spend money or how they waste money and how much nepotism and favoritism they have, they are still bringing in interesting players. And those players are actually world-class. Sometimes they don't even have to make those players world-class. Those players are basically ready to play at the top level of competition from the start.

Giving good chances to the new talent are always going to be the best decision that any team's authority can make. Because if you do that, instead of waiting for the day when the players who are already playing will perform well, you would actually get players who can perform well regularly. Basically you will not have to wait for the day when one player is going to perform well after giving chances consistently. And you will even have good replacements ready just like the Indian team has.
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BCCI took great step to give rest to big players of team amf they gave chance to  youngesters because BCCI can't test youngesters against big team like Australia and England but they can check the capability and stamina of players against small teams like Zimbabwe and Namibia. But Zimbabwe team played well in first T20 and Sikander Raza was a match changer in this match but Indian team did come back and and performed well in second match and won the match by high margin. Two slots are available in Indian Cricket team and two new Youngesters will fill that space and we will see that Indian team will be strong in future because whole country love cricket.
Yes you are right that is the good decision because they are giving chances to new talents. If they are giving rest to big players and giving the chance to new players so BCCI want to select more valuable players for the team because they are good in cricket. I have seen in both Women Cricket and Men Cricket. BCCI is playing a big role in cricket. And both teams are strong. While we can see how Indian Men team won the T20 World Cup and in Women Cricket how Indian team is playing with South Africa Women team. So in both cases they are strong. So if they are giving chance to new talents so this is really good decision.
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According to my opinion in under 19 cricket players are still in developing phase and it is difficult to predict which one will win, while their playing structure and domestic performance of the team is very important role in their selection. Sri Lanka under 19 team is a good team selection but England under 19 team structure is very best So I want to see England under 19 team to win test cricket match but in gane anything can happen let's see who will win.
Yes exactly, everyone has their own point of view and it doesn't matter which team won series and which not. According to me both team performed greatly in this series Under 19s of Sri Lanka and England. I really enjoyed all games of this series and in 1 st game, Sri Lanka U19 team showed brilliant struggle and their effort was totally amazing. But in next two games their team played very slowly and did not made good runs and their bowlers also did not bowled good and did not stop batsman of England for low runs that's why their team lose these two games and also lose this series. Now both of them will play next series Test games and I believe that in this series Sri Lanka U19 team perform better and they will not repeat mistakes they made in past  games. 1 st unofficial test game will played today and I choose Sri Lanka U19 team in game who will win game.
Nearly two decades back we were having strong systems in many countries which were doing good work for the development of their game and having teams with U-19, U-23 and A team were having regularly tours of the different countries for the experience and development of their game but as we have changes like T20i and now franchise leagues things are taking changes, and we are having no good number of tours for these youngsters which are important because tours like these are working good for them and game as well.

Few boards are not able to handle these things which are surely problem because they are having limited sources, but we need some good support from the ICC for this as we are having things like these in FIFA which is doing good work for the development of the game.
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There is no doubt these U-19 players are mostly in early stage of their career which give them some confidence but mostly are having unpredictable nature which give unusual results in one game we have poor run then suddenly in next game we are having good change of their performance and things also take changes with this mostly they are having good performance but still it needs time for having consistency and quality in recent years we are having some good work by ICC as we are having few events for these youngsters and few boards are also allowing their players for touring other countries which give them good confidence and experience.

In last few years we are having good results from India, Australia and England which are improving their system and things are going on next level as we watch in second game of Zimbabwe vs India match.
BCCI took great step to give rest to big players of team amf they gave chance to  youngesters because BCCI can't test youngesters against big team like Australia and England but they can check the capability and stamina of players against small teams like Zimbabwe and Namibia. But Zimbabwe team played well in first T20 and Sikander Raza was a match changer in this match but Indian team did come back and and performed well in second match and won the match by high margin. Two slots are available in Indian Cricket team and two new Youngesters will fill that space and we will see that Indian team will be strong in future because whole country love cricket.
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According to my opinion in under 19 cricket players are still in developing phase and it is difficult to predict which one will win, while their playing structure and domestic performance of the team is very important role in their selection. Sri Lanka under 19 team is a good team selection but England under 19 team structure is very best So I want to see England under 19 team to win test cricket match but in gane anything can happen let's see who will win.
Yes exactly, everyone has their own point of view and it doesn't matter which team won series and which not. According to me both team performed greatly in this series Under 19s of Sri Lanka and England. I really enjoyed all games of this series and in 1 st game, Sri Lanka U19 team showed brilliant struggle and their effort was totally amazing. But in next two games their team played very slowly and did not made good runs and their bowlers also did not bowled good and did not stop batsman of England for low runs that's why their team lose these two games and also lose this series. Now both of them will play next series Test games and I believe that in this series Sri Lanka U19 team perform better and they will not repeat mistakes they made in past  games. 1 st unofficial test game will played today and I choose Sri Lanka U19 team in game who will win game.
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Exactly in the test formats a player can show his skills. Because he has the time to understand the bowler and bowler has the time to understand the batsman. And I am also looking Srilanka U19 team as a strong team as compare to England U19 team. Of course England U19 team won the last match of the ODI series but overall performance of Srilanka team is admirable. Well tomorrow they will start the test match so let's hope Srilanka will continue their performance ad they performed in ODI series.
According to my opinion in under 19 cricket players are still in developing phase and it is difficult to predict which one will win, while their playing structure and domestic performance of the team is very important role in their selection. Sri Lanka under 19 team is a good team selection but England under 19 team structure is very best So I want to see England under 19 team to win test cricket match but in gane anything can happen let's see who will win.
There is no doubt these U-19 players are mostly in early stage of their career which give them some confidence but mostly are having unpredictable nature which give unusual results in one game we have poor run then suddenly in next game we are having good change of their performance and things also take changes with this mostly they are having good performance but still it needs time for having consistency and quality in recent years we are having some good work by ICC as we are having few events for these youngsters and few boards are also allowing their players for touring other countries which give them good confidence and experience.

In last few years we are having good results from India, Australia and England which are improving their system and things are going on next level as we watch in second game of Zimbabwe vs India match.
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Yes, no doubt about it.  Because I have seen their first matches and seen their performance.  In which it is clear that this is a strong team.  Their batsmen target with good pace and good performance and secondly their bowlers apply good pressure and take wickets and try their best to win the match and their hard work definitely pays off for them to win.  Because of this they win most of the matches.  And in this match too, England batsmen set a big target of 268 in 45 overs and their bowler took all the wickets with full effort and struggle and won the match.  Congratulations to him for this win.  Had the Sri Lankan batsmen not been out, they needed 8 runs off 2 balls and their batsmen could have made it.  But their batsmen were restless and luck did not support them and they would lose the match.

Luc Benkenstein scored a century in this match. He is the son of former South African allrounder Dale Benkenstein, and has already played first-class cricket for Essex. He is an allrounder, who bowls leg break. Sri Lanka has a lot of positives to take away from this match as well. Vihas Thewmika once again excelled with the ball, while Dinura Kalupahana also managed to pick up some crucial wickets. And while batting, there were good performances from Gayana Weerasinghe and Mahith Perera. 
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England under 19 is a very strong man team in this Tri nation series and this match Sri Lanka under 19 is a lost team. England under 19 played previous matches with fantastic performance. Now they have also played this match very well. I hope Sri Lanka under 19 they will play better in the next match. England under 19 played a good match their performance was impressive. Every one showed  their great skill really well. Sri Lanka under 19 need to play better in the upcoming matches. This time no one player played will everyone played normally. England under 19 made 268 runs total and win match. Sri Lanka chased just 260 and lost match. England under won this game by by 4 runs. The 3rd match between England under 19 and Sri Lanka under 19 was played at ground stadium. England under 19 won the toss. The poor batting performance for Sri Lanka under 19 man team was by Hivin kenula scored 1 runs and 3 balls hitting 0 fours and 0 sixs.
Do you really think that the England U19 team is a strong team as compare to SriLankan U19 team. I have seen that SriLanka U19 team is much stronger. Unfortunately SriLanka U19 team lost the last match. But overall performance of SriLanka U19 team is admirable. Like we can see that they won the tour match first. And after that they gave a tough time in the first two matches of this series. So I believe that SriLanka U19 team is better than England U19 team. Well the series is now finished and SriLanka U19 team won the series with 2-1.
England U19 team as a best team because England country is a mother of cricket and they always made great players. Either we concern with men or women,  International level or U19 level, So other teams learned cricket by watching England players and they can do mistakes but England team pacers and batters are top of the World and we saw no speedy pacers like England country.Sri Lankan U19 team is good team and I like many players of Sri Lankan Under 19 team but I gave more importance to England U19 team players and I like to watch them to perform because from them I can improve my skills as cricket player.

Yes, no doubt about it.  Because I have seen their first matches and seen their performance.  In which it is clear that this is a strong team.  Their batsmen target with good pace and good performance and secondly their bowlers apply good pressure and take wickets and try their best to win the match and their hard work definitely pays off for them to win.  Because of this they win most of the matches.  And in this match too, England batsmen set a big target of 268 in 45 overs and their bowler took all the wickets with full effort and struggle and won the match.  Congratulations to him for this win.  Had the Sri Lankan batsmen not been out, they needed 8 runs off 2 balls and their batsmen could have made it.  But their batsmen were restless and luck did not support them and they would lose the match.
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Exactly in the test formats a player can show his skills. Because he has the time to understand the bowler and bowler has the time to understand the batsman. And I am also looking Srilanka U19 team as a strong team as compare to England U19 team. Of course England U19 team won the last match of the ODI series but overall performance of Srilanka team is admirable. Well tomorrow they will start the test match so let's hope Srilanka will continue their performance ad they performed in ODI series.
According to my opinion in under 19 cricket players are still in developing phase and it is difficult to predict which one will win, while their playing structure and domestic performance of the team is very important role in their selection. Sri Lanka under 19 team is a good team selection but England under 19 team structure is very best So I want to see England under 19 team to win test cricket match but in gane anything can happen let's see who will win.
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England U19 team as a best team because England country is a mother of cricket and they always made great players. Either we concern with men or women,  International level or U19 level, So other teams learned cricket by watching England players and they can do mistakes but England team pacers and batters are top of the World and we saw no speedy pacers like England country.Sri Lankan U19 team is good team and I like many players of Sri Lankan Under 19 team but I gave more importance to England U19 team players and I like to watch them to perform because from them I can improve my skills as cricket player.

A lot of the England U19 players have represented the county 2nd XI sides. And also, the cricket at college/school level is also having good quality in England. The latter is true for Sri Lanka as well, but then their smaller population and lack of cricketing infrastructure outside Colombo always results in a smaller pool of players. Sri Lanka is going through a period of flux now, with all the golden generation players gone and the country facing economic hardship and civil unrest. But the performance of U19 squad is very exciting in this regard.
We appreciate the players of Sri Lanka . We look legendary player from Sri Lanka and Sri Lanka won the T20 World Cup and I am big fan of Kumar Sangkara and he was legend and he broke many records and Dilshan was also excellent player and we saw big names from very small country when country situation was good but now Sri Lankan country is economically depress and government is not supporting the good players and they are not interested to play for country and besides they play leagues and they earn from leagues and from that leagues they get money ,and fame and after they engage in commercials and they get benefit from that. But England team is totally different from Sri Lankan team and Economy of England is stronger and government is supporting the players.
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England U19 team as a best team because England country is a mother of cricket and they always made great players. Either we concern with men or women,  International level or U19 level, So other teams learned cricket by watching England players and they can do mistakes but England team pacers and batters are top of the World and we saw no speedy pacers like England country.Sri Lankan U19 team is good team and I like many players of Sri Lankan Under 19 team but I gave more importance to England U19 team players and I like to watch them to perform because from them I can improve my skills as cricket player.

A lot of the England U19 players have represented the county 2nd XI sides. And also, the cricket at college/school level is also having good quality in England. The latter is true for Sri Lanka as well, but then their smaller population and lack of cricketing infrastructure outside Colombo always results in a smaller pool of players. Sri Lanka is going through a period of flux now, with all the golden generation players gone and the country facing economic hardship and civil unrest. But the performance of U19 squad is very exciting in this regard.
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I personally think it is actually hard to predict how the under 19 players are actually going to perform. Sometimes they can be very inconsistent. That’s why when it comes to predict of any youth team, or even the under 19, it can very easily be wrong whatever the odds.

Sri Lanka under 19 is very strong, no doubt. But the performance, the recent performance from the English under 19 team gives me hope. The problem is this upcoming matches are going to be unofficial test matches. And test format is a real test of temperament and skill. Most of the time in test matches, the skillful players are the ones that win. And it is probably undeniable that the Sri Lanka team is more skilled compared to the England one when it comes to the under 19. But positive thing for England that the match is going to held ENG home ground.

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Exactly in the test formats a player can show his skills. Because he has the time to understand the bowler and bowler has the time to understand the batsman. And I am also looking Srilanka U19 team as a strong team as compare to England U19 team. Of course England U19 team won the last match of the ODI series but overall performance of Srilanka team is admirable. Well tomorrow they will start the test match so let's hope Srilanka will continue their performance ad they performed in ODI series.
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