Pakistani team is full with low quality players. Nobody is performing like a player and they are not taking responsibility of their country. Country invested on them but they they wasted the country's money. Pakistani team will qualify the semi final but they have no capability to win the title. Because there is no partnership making players. I saw Iftikhar in the match against England, he hitter good and then he hitted the ball when it was not necessary for the team. Pakistani most players are risk taking players and they hit sixes and they are not players of single double. I know T20 is fast cricket but for win , single double matters a lot . Pakistani team have to change the combination and the should change the mindset. They have a mindset of losers ,when they switch their mindset and they will make mind to win,then they will get any kind of title.
I understand your frustration with the Pakistani team performance but labeling them as low quality players is not good. Team has potential but they need to adapt and improve their strategy. Lack of partnership and irresponsible playing as we seen in England match is concerning and as you mentioned too. T20 may be fast paced but building partnerships and rotating strike is crucial. Team needs to change their approach and develop winning mindset. With right combination and shift in mentality they can overcome their limitations and achieve success. It is time for team to learn from their mistakes and step up their game. But behind the whole case still we can't say that Pakistani players are low quality players. 
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Pakistani team is full with low quality players. Nobody is performing like a player and they are not taking responsibility of their country. Country invested on them but they they wasted the country's money. Pakistani team will qualify the semi final but they have no capability to win the title. Because there is no partnership making players. I saw Iftikhar in the match against England, he hitter good and then he hitted the ball when it was not necessary for the team. Pakistani most players are risk taking players and they hit sixes and they are not players of single double. I know T20 is fast cricket but for win , single double matters a lot . Pakistani team have to change the combination and the should change the mindset. They have a mindset of losers ,when they switch their mindset and they will make mind to win,then they will get any kind of title.
Do you really think Pakistani team has the low quality players I don't think so. Pakistani team has the talented players. But there is the big problem of consistency. If they are low quality players so they will not be able to play in any match. But you may see the record they play well in some matches. But in some matches they got out earlier. Is this the standard of quality playing? They are talented but they need a right direction they need more practice they need a better coaching. So they can be a good team. So in my point of view Pakistani squad is good and they need more practice to stand against a strong team.
Usually I criticized Pakistani team too much due to their poor performance and system as well but still I believe they can do better because they are having few natural talented players those can do stunning performance in any condition which is their trademark as well but in last few months we are having serious decline in quality with too many players which are not deserved to be in team are creating too many problems for them which is bringing worst results for them as well.
But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.
Exactly Pakistani team has some good players. But Pakistan players have a big issue which is consistency. They don't have consistency. For example if they have two good players. They will play well in one Match and in the second match they will get out earlier. And due to this they lose the match easily. Means these natural need more practice to avail consistency. But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.
If they will do that so I will say the Pakistani team will be the best team in the world.
By the way ICC T20I World Cup has been started and I hope Pakistani team will do their best.
Usually I criticized Pakistani team too much due to their poor performance and system as well but still I believe they can do better because they are having few natural talented players those can do stunning performance in any condition which is their trademark as well but in last few months we are having serious decline in quality with too many players which are not deserved to be in team are creating too many problems for them which is bringing worst results for them as well.
But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.
Exactly Pakistani team has some good players. But Pakistan players have a big issue which is consistency. They don't have consistency. For example if they have two good players. They will play well in one Match and in the second match they will get out earlier. And due to this they lose the match easily. Means these natural need more practice to avail consistency. But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.
If they will do that so I will say the Pakistani team will be the best team in the world.
By the way ICC T20I World Cup has been started and I hope Pakistani team will do their best.
Usually I criticized Pakistani team too much due to their poor performance and system as well but still I believe they can do better because they are having few natural talented players those can do stunning performance in any condition which is their trademark as well but in last few months we are having serious decline in quality with too many players which are not deserved to be in team are creating too many problems for them which is bringing worst results for them as well.
But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.
Exactly Pakistani team has some good players. But Pakistan players have a big issue which is consistency. They don't have consistency. For example if they have two good players. They will play well in one Match and in the second match they will get out earlier. And due to this they lose the match easily. Means these natural need more practice to avail consistency. But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.
If they will do that so I will say the Pakistani team will be the best team in the world.
By the way ICC T20I World Cup has been started and I hope Pakistani team will do their best.
Usually I criticized Pakistani team too much due to their poor performance and system as well but still I believe they can do better because they are having few natural talented players those can do stunning performance in any condition which is their trademark as well but in last few months we are having serious decline in quality with too many players which are not deserved to be in team are creating too many problems for them which is bringing worst results for them as well.
But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.
Exactly Pakistani team has some good players. But Pakistan players have a big issue which is consistency. They don't have consistency. For example if they have two good players. They will play well in one Match and in the second match they will get out earlier. And due to this they lose the match easily. Means these natural need more practice to avail consistency. But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.
If they will do that so I will say the Pakistani team will be the best team in the world.
By the way ICC T20I World Cup has been started and I hope Pakistani team will do their best.
I think that is impossible for Pakistan to change these players. All players of today team are referenced players and if they will be out from the tournament,the selectors have to face many problem. Because referenced players will be against the selector and then he will face the challenges in the form of lose of chair. So ,all management is quiet despite the performance of Pakistani Women team is very bad and they are not able to play against low quality players. They lose the series against West Indies and England. Now ,I am not hopeful of the Pakistani cricket.
I think so too. Because we could dream of winning the World Cup with Pakistan but that is not possible anymore. Pakistan's cricket has undergone major changes since the change in politics. Recommendations have ruined the whole cricket situation. I will not only talk about women's cricket but also men's cricket. I strongly believe that Pakistan will not do well in this T20 World Cup. Their inconsistent performance will not bode well for the team. It would have been nice to announce a squad with the women's and men's teams re-selected but that is no longer possible. While Pakistan dreamed to win the World Cup in other years, there are many doubts whether they will bring them to the finals in this World Cup.But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.
I think that is impossible for Pakistan to change these players. All players of today team are referenced players and if they will be out from the tournament,the selectors have to face many problem. Because referenced players will be against the selector and then he will face the challenges in the form of lose of chair. So ,all management is quiet despite the performance of Pakistani Women team is very bad and they are not able to play against low quality players. They lose the series against West Indies and England. Now ,I am not hopeful of the Pakistani cricket.
I think so too. Because we could dream of winning the World Cup with Pakistan but that is not possible anymore. Pakistan's cricket has undergone major changes since the change in politics. Recommendations have ruined the whole cricket situation. I will not only talk about women's cricket but also men's cricket. I strongly believe that Pakistan will not do well in this T20 World Cup. Their inconsistent performance will not bode well for the team. It would have been nice to announce a squad with the women's and men's teams re-selected but that is no longer possible. While Pakistan dreamed to win the World Cup in other years, there are many doubts whether they will bring them to the finals in this World Cup. 
Pakistan women don't have chance to play well because they are not able to perform well. They must practice at home to play well This will increase their confidence, strength and morale. By doing this they will improve in the game and become successful very quickly. If Pakistani women players don't prepare themselves now, they will have no place in the cricket team.
You are right because the way the Pakistan women's team is performing will really make thousands of their cricket fans angry with them. Especially Pakistan women team lost the series due to their poor batting against West Indies and continued to perform very poorly against England. Especially Pakistan's bowling line is quite good if they work a little hard on batting and get a good training there is definitely a possibility to improve Pakistan women's team in future. So the Pakistan Cricket Board should train the Pakistan Women's team through a good course if they participate in the game like this so that they don't become a laughing stock to the world.
There is no guarantee that Pakistan women team will play well after training through good courses. Pakistan women team should see their team players are not performing well for any reason, what is their problem?They need to fix the problem urgently or they will continue to play poorly in one match after another as they have done in the two series. We have seen the Pakistan Women's team lose their home T20I and ODI series against the West Indies. Similarly, they lost the T20I series and the ODI series against England Women due to poor performances and lost the series pair. For the development of Pakistani women, domestic leagues should be organized in their country to give them adequate opportunities to improve themselves.
You are right because the way the Pakistan women's team is performing will really make thousands of their cricket fans angry with them. Especially Pakistan women team lost the series due to their poor batting against West Indies and continued to perform very poorly against England. Especially Pakistan's bowling line is quite good if they work a little hard on batting and get a good training there is definitely a possibility to improve Pakistan women's team in future. So the Pakistan Cricket Board should train the Pakistan Women's team through a good course if they participate in the game like this so that they don't become a laughing stock to the world.
There is no guarantee that Pakistan women team will play well after training through good courses. Pakistan women team should see their team players are not performing well for any reason, what is their problem?They need to fix the problem urgently or they will continue to play poorly in one match after another as they have done in the two series. We have seen the Pakistan Women's team lose their home T20I and ODI series against the West Indies. Similarly, they lost the T20I series and the ODI series against England Women due to poor performances and lost the series pair. For the development of Pakistani women, domestic leagues should be organized in their country to give them adequate opportunities to improve themselves. Do you really think that is the solution?
Means Pakistan Cricket Board should ban them?
Don't you think they should rebuild the squad to collect some better ladies from all over the Pakistan.? I think that is not the solution that they should ban the Pakistan women cricket team. If this squad is not playing well so they should make a good squad who can fight to any big team.
Or if they don't want to change the squad so they should focus on their practice or they should change the coach or should anything else to improve the team. But permanent ban is not a solution by the way.
I totally agree with you. Banning the women cricket team is not a solution. Pakistan Cricket Board should find new and talented players from all over Pakistan to make stronger team. If the current team is struggling they need to practice and train more to improve their skills. Maybe they need new coach or different approach as you mentioned. Banning team would be harmful and discourage players and fans too.Means Pakistan Cricket Board should ban them?
Don't you think they should rebuild the squad to collect some better ladies from all over the Pakistan.? I think that is not the solution that they should ban the Pakistan women cricket team. If this squad is not playing well so they should make a good squad who can fight to any big team.
Or if they don't want to change the squad so they should focus on their practice or they should change the coach or should anything else to improve the team. But permanent ban is not a solution by the way.
Peoples are doing this all furiously as they are having disappointment with these results, and they are not checking ground realities which are need to be fixed before having positive results like Pakistani women's are doing this all in difficult conditions with having no strong backup and their domestic setup is also not allowing them to have something positive, so hopefully these women will increase their quality, and we will have better performance in near future from them.
Few players are having good potential, but they need improvement in technique which is the main problem for them mostly they are having good start, but after few overs lost their patience and give up easily which is surely problem and need to be settled Pakistani men are also having same results but no one crying about them hopefully all will be ok in near future.
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I think that is impossible for Pakistan to change these players. All players of today team are referenced players and if they will be out from the tournament,the selectors have to face many problem. Because referenced players will be against the selector and then he will face the challenges in the form of lose of chair. So ,all management is quiet despite the performance of Pakistani Women team is very bad and they are not able to play against low quality players. They lose the series against West Indies and England. Now ,I am not hopeful of the Pakistani cricket.
So what? I think that is the duty of the seletors and these selector should do their job. Fist of all Pakistani Women team players need more practice they should focus on their mistakes and they should try to eliminate them. If any player is not playing well after practicing so this player should be replaced to the other player. And new seletors should give give a chance to new players so any player can perform well at anytime. Means any new player can be the backbone for the team in future. So I think new players should be welcomed. This will bring new talent in the team.
Do you really think that is the solution?
Means Pakistan Cricket Board should ban them?
Don't you think they should rebuild the squad to collect some better ladies from all over the Pakistan.? I think that is not the solution that they should ban the Pakistan women cricket team. If this squad is not playing well so they should make a good squad who can fight to any big team.
Or if they don't want to change the squad so they should focus on their practice or they should change the coach or should anything else to improve the team. But permanent ban is not a solution by the way.
I totally agree with you. Banning the women cricket team is not a solution. Pakistan Cricket Board should find new and talented players from all over Pakistan to make stronger team. If the current team is struggling they need to practice and train more to improve their skills. Maybe they need new coach or different approach as you mentioned. Banning team would be harmful and discourage players and fans too.Means Pakistan Cricket Board should ban them?
Don't you think they should rebuild the squad to collect some better ladies from all over the Pakistan.? I think that is not the solution that they should ban the Pakistan women cricket team. If this squad is not playing well so they should make a good squad who can fight to any big team.
Or if they don't want to change the squad so they should focus on their practice or they should change the coach or should anything else to improve the team. But permanent ban is not a solution by the way.
Peoples are doing this all furiously as they are having disappointment with these results, and they are not checking ground realities which are need to be fixed before having positive results like Pakistani women's are doing this all in difficult conditions with having no strong backup and their domestic setup is also not allowing them to have something positive, so hopefully these women will increase their quality, and we will have better performance in near future from them.
Few players are having good potential, but they need improvement in technique which is the main problem for them mostly they are having good start, but after few overs lost their patience and give up easily which is surely problem and need to be settled Pakistani men are also having same results but no one crying about them hopefully all will be ok in near future.
After the 2nd match was abandoned without result, finally the 3rd match is held meanwhile. And as i expected, England Women won by 178 runs against Pakistan Women in this 3rd ODI match! England Women went to bat first after winning the toss and then weren't doing too well in batting until Nat Sciver-Brunt started batting and she have just started showing her incredible performance. A century finally done by her and she scored 124 runs. Thus The final score of England Women team was 302-5 . Which is huge amount of runs cause Pakistan Women was unable to reached the half of their targeted runs.Muneeba Ali(47) and Aliya Riaz(36) were made some runs. Rest of players makes Pakistan team disappointed. Well congrats England Women team to won the another match once again
Now this series was ended successfully and all games was played and overall result England-W team win this series with 2 wins and 2nd game was abandoned because of rain and game concluded after playing 7 overs. In last game, England-W set very competitive target of total 302 runs in 50 overs by losing 5 wickets. Pakistan-W team only chased down 124 runs and lose this game by big margin of runs 178. N.Brunt received a award by her brilliant effort because she made 124 runs in 117 balls with hitting fourteen 4s and two 6s. D.Wyatt also performed brilliantly and she made 44 runs in 42 balls. Pakistan-W team player effort proved that they need sold practice for future benefit. England-W whitewashed Pakistan-W. N Brunt not only played well in batting lineup but also showed good effort in bowling and she took down 2 wickets as well in 5 overs with 11 runs. In WT20I series Pakistan-W lost games now again in ODi series they also lose in this series.After the 2nd match was abandoned without result, finally the 3rd match is held meanwhile. And as i expected, England Women won by 178 runs against Pakistan Women in this 3rd ODI match! England Women went to bat first after winning the toss and then weren't doing too well in batting until Nat Sciver-Brunt started batting and she have just started showing her incredible performance. A century finally done by her and she scored 124 runs. Thus The final score of England Women team was 302-5 . Which is huge amount of runs cause Pakistan Women was unable to reached the half of their targeted runs.Muneeba Ali(47) and Aliya Riaz(36) were made some runs. Rest of players makes Pakistan team disappointed. Well congrats England Women team to won the another match once again
Now this series was ended successfully and all games was played and overall result England-W team win this series with 2 wins and 2nd game was abandoned because of rain and game concluded after playing 7 overs. In last game, England-W set very competitive target of total 302 runs in 50 overs by losing 5 wickets. Pakistan-W team only chased down 124 runs and lose this game by big margin of runs 178. N.Brunt received a award by her brilliant effort because she made 124 runs in 117 balls with hitting fourteen 4s and two 6s. D.Wyatt also performed brilliantly and she made 44 runs in 42 balls. Pakistan-W team player effort proved that they need sold practice for future benefit. England-W whitewashed Pakistan-W. N Brunt not only played well in batting lineup but also showed good effort in bowling and she took down 2 wickets as well in 5 overs with 11 runs. In WT20I series Pakistan-W lost games now again in ODi series they also lose in this series.
If the Pakistan Cricket Board does not care about their women's team then they should ban women's cricket as there is no point in just defaming it. As Pakistani women have enough talent in cricket, Pakistan Cricket Board must utilize this talent. Sri Lanka takes both their women's and men's teams seriously and that's why their women's team always performs well. Women's cricket should not be underestimated because it is normal for men to give priority. If we look at Australia, England or India, we will see that men are given as many opportunities as women. Pakistan Cricket Board must work on their women cricketers.
Do you really think that is the solution?Means Pakistan Cricket Board should ban them?
Don't you think they should rebuild the squad to collect some better ladies from all over the Pakistan.? I think that is not the solution that they should ban the Pakistan women cricket team. If this squad is not playing well so they should make a good squad who can fight to any big team.
Or if they don't want to change the squad so they should focus on their practice or they should change the coach or should anything else to improve the team. But permanent ban is not a solution by the way.
Few players are having good potential, but they need improvement in technique which is the main problem for them mostly they are having good start, but after few overs lost their patience and give up easily which is surely problem and need to be settled Pakistani men are also having same results but no one crying about them hopefully all will be ok in near future.
If the Pakistan Cricket Board does not care about their women's team then they should ban women's cricket as there is no point in just defaming it. As Pakistani women have enough talent in cricket, Pakistan Cricket Board must utilize this talent. Sri Lanka takes both their women's and men's teams seriously and that's why their women's team always performs well. Women's cricket should not be underestimated because it is normal for men to give priority. If we look at Australia, England or India, we will see that men are given as many opportunities as women. Pakistan Cricket Board must work on their women cricketers.
Means Pakistan Cricket Board should ban them?
Don't you think they should rebuild the squad to collect some better ladies from all over the Pakistan.? I think that is not the solution that they should ban the Pakistan women cricket team. If this squad is not playing well so they should make a good squad who can fight to any big team.
Or if they don't want to change the squad so they should focus on their practice or they should change the coach or should anything else to improve the team. But permanent ban is not a solution by the way.
I think no team will lose to Pakistan Women team. Because their performance is very poor. If they get an even easier target they still won't win this match. If they improve their performance they can win the match. But they have no chance of winning. Predicting Pakistan to lose predicts defeat. And the reason for this is their poor performance. The entire Pakistan team needs attention. Neither their bowlers can stop runs nor their batsmen have good batting. Yes, you are absolutely right. I get frustrate watching their matches. I don't even want to watch their matches anymore. His consistent poor performance has eroded his reputation. Their captains also perform well in the match.If their batsmen had batted with effort and struggle they could have won the match. They lose their senses and lose the match. And gradually all the batsmen will be out and only 30 over innings will be played.
Your idea is completely wrong because sometimes big teams are forced to lose even against small teams, currently Pakistan women's performance is bad that doesn't mean they won't win against any team. It is normal for any team to go bad at any time and we have to learn from that failure and move forward to perform well in future matches. Everyone may have a different opinion about Pakistan women team's poor performance but I say they will definitely improve themselves even win the match against their next team.In the game of cricket, if a team loses a match or a series, they have to try harder to see where they went wrong and where they lacked in performance. Whenever they can catch their mistakes or poor performances even correct them, they will be ready to win. Maybe the Pakistan women's team should continue on the same path even try to correct their mistakes and play well in the upcoming matches.
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