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Losing the toss, New Zealand went into bat and collected 86 runs for 1 wicket at the moment. New Zealand finished the powerplay very nicely. If New Zealand can survive like this then New Zealand can score 300 to 350 runs in today's match. On the other hand, if Afghanistan can make New Zealand's wickets fall quickly, they may be able to stop New Zealand before 300 runs.  New Zealand is a very strong and reliable team in this World Cup. New Zealand played three matches in this World Cup and won all three matches while Afghanistan played three matches in this World Cup and won 1 match out of three matches. Afghanistan will have to fight hard to survive in this World Cup otherwise Afghanistan will be knocked out from the next stage. Who do you think will beat New Zealand and win the Afghanistan match today?
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So far, New Zealand has got a good start. There was an early wobble, when Devon Conway got out to Mujeeb Ur Rahman. But after that Will Young and Rachin Ravindra got complete control and they are now at 84/1 after 16 overs. A score of somewhere around 320-330 is possible and against the weak Afghan batting lineup I believe that it will be more than enough. At this point, two teams have 6 points each - New Zealand and India. And even after this round, it is going to remain that way. India's next match is against Bangladesh, BTW.
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May be they will play like the last match but there is New Zealand and I think New Zealand is better than England. So New Zealand land will play decently and will win today match.
But this is cricket match so anything can happen at anytime. So we will bind our expectations to any team. But I hope that New Zealand will win today match. Let's see what will happen.? Smiley

New Zealand looks like the most balanced team in the world cup now, even without Kane Williamson. They are not overly dependent on any one batsmen, as Conway, Ravindra, Mitchell and Young have all made runs in the first three matches. And on the bowling front, their pacers have been in good form, especially Matt Henry and Trent Boult. And also, let's not forget the fact that Mitchell Santner is the top wicket taker in the tournament so far. And he has received good support from part-time spinners such as Rachin Ravindra and Glenn Phillips.  
New Zealand is in hot form but if it's a typical Chepuk wicket that offers spin then the Afghans will give a tough fight to the Kiwis, you can always bank on spin trio Rashid-Mujeeb-Nabi on the turner.

But in case, they are using square wickets similar to NZ vs BAN then it should be relatively easy for the Kiwis as square wickets won't offer much spin (it didn't in NZ vs BAN).

We have recently witnessed two upsets done by Afghanistan and the Netherlands recently and now everyone is looking for the upset to happen again. This is not how the UPSET works  Smiley  The upsets happen very rarely and we should not expect upsets in every match.

I think the way New Zealand has started the batting today, they should win this match pretty easily. Scoring 84 runs in almost 15 overs with one wicket down means that we are here to see NZ make  350+ or even more runs. Kiwi's aren't looking back after beating England in their first match.  Wink
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The toss has already been done Afghanistan won the toss and decided to bowl. Both New Zealand's bowling and batting lines are stronger than Afghanistan. Mujeeb and Rashid are not in good form at present but bowled well against England in the last match and won in the end. Today Afghanistan won the toss and took the bowling, if Afghanistan can stop New Zealand before 250 then Afghanistan will have a chance to win. And if New Zealand can score 300+ then New Zealand will win. Because Afghanistan's batting line is not strong enough to chase 300+ runs and win. So far New Zealand have scored 23 runs in 5 overs. If Devon Conway and Will Young both make a good opening pair, New Zealand will be able to score well.
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Usually in long tournaments, every stadium prepares a minimum of 2-3 pitches (Center-Square)on the same ground and they use these pitches on a rotation basis, depending on the schedule.

For Ind vs Aus, they used a center pitch, which offered a decent spin for the Indians. For NZ vs BAN they used different deck (square) and there was virtually no spin to offer and it benefited the Kiwis. So as usual, lot will depend on the pitch.

Oh.. OK.. I overlooked this factor. There is no doubt that playing against Mujeeb and Rashid is going to be challenging. But at the same time, for the first two matches these bowlers got a lot of punishment. And New Zealand top order is in excellent form. So unless the pitch offers exceptional support for the spinners, I am not sure whether Afghanistan will get an advantage. One disadvantage with Afghanistan is that their spinners are quite sought after in franchise T20 leagues. They play all around the world and therefore their variations and tactics are known to everyone.
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New Zealand is in hot form but if it's a typical Chepuk wicket that offers spin then the Afghans will give a tough fight to the Kiwis, you can always bank on spin trio Rashid-Mujeeb-Nabi on the turner.

But in case, they are using square wickets similar to NZ vs BAN then it should be relatively easy for the Kiwis as square wickets won't offer much spin (it didn't in NZ vs BAN).

Yeah.. Afghans just destroyed England with their spin bowling. So New Zealand should be cautious. But at the same time, they won quite comfortably against Bangladesh although the latter had quality spinners in their squad (esp. Shakib Al Hasan and Mehidy Hasan Miraz). But then again, Kane Williamson had a terrific match against the Bongs and he is now out of action. Tim Southee is also injured and that is the reason why Lockie Ferguson continues to be part of the playing XI. I would say that the advantage is with New Zealand, but they should not take this match lightly.
Usually in long tournaments, every stadium prepares a minimum of 2-3 pitches (Center-Square)on the same ground and they use these pitches on a rotation basis, depending on the schedule.

For Ind vs Aus, they used a center pitch, which offered a decent spin for the Indians. For NZ vs BAN they used different deck (square) and there was virtually no spin to offer and it benefited the Kiwis. So as usual, lot will depend on the pitch.
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SA are 99/5 in 22 overs. One more wicket and the tail starts. The Netherlands are bowling very well. They have the golden opportunity to beat the most informed team of this World Cup.
I think the Netherlands will beat SA in today's match. At the moment, the Win probability of the Netherlands is approximately 90%. If they get David Miller's wicket, they will seal their victory. Fingers crossed.

The South African team has been in good form this season. They won by 102 runs against Sri Lanka team. Moreover, they got another big win by 134 runs against Australia, another big power of cricket. After two consecutive wins they lost to the Netherlands by 38 runs. I don't know how everyone in the cricket world is looking at this defeat, but this is another example of how any team can change at any time. I am sure some bettors have lost huge money by this match but winning and losing in the game is part of the game so nothing can be said for sure. But such a big fall in the World Cup will really be remembered by the fans for a long time. I think the Netherlands now have the credentials to beat any team but it's hard to keep up their winning streak.
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Lost a decent amount thanks to South Africa messing up against the Dutch out of nowhere. I always liked Bavuma as a batsman, but never as a captain which is why I feel that players like Miller etc could probably be better captains in comparison.

Also, I am not expecting this crazy upset streak to continue in the match between NZ and Afghanistan.
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New Zealand is in hot form but if it's a typical Chepuk wicket that offers spin then the Afghans will give a tough fight to the Kiwis, you can always bank on spin trio Rashid-Mujeeb-Nabi on the turner.

But in case, they are using square wickets similar to NZ vs BAN then it should be relatively easy for the Kiwis as square wickets won't offer much spin (it didn't in NZ vs BAN).

Yeah.. Afghans just destroyed England with their spin bowling. So New Zealand should be cautious. But at the same time, they won quite comfortably against Bangladesh although the latter had quality spinners in their squad (esp. Shakib Al Hasan and Mehidy Hasan Miraz). But then again, Kane Williamson had a terrific match against the Bongs and he is now out of action. Tim Southee is also injured and that is the reason why Lockie Ferguson continues to be part of the playing XI. I would say that the advantage is with New Zealand, but they should not take this match lightly.
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May be they will play like the last match but there is New Zealand and I think New Zealand is better than England. So New Zealand land will play decently and will win today match.
But this is cricket match so anything can happen at anytime. So we will bind our expectations to any team. But I hope that New Zealand will win today match. Let's see what will happen.? Smiley

New Zealand looks like the most balanced team in the world cup now, even without Kane Williamson. They are not overly dependent on any one batsmen, as Conway, Ravindra, Mitchell and Young have all made runs in the first three matches. And on the bowling front, their pacers have been in good form, especially Matt Henry and Trent Boult. And also, let's not forget the fact that Mitchell Santner is the top wicket taker in the tournament so far. And he has received good support from part-time spinners such as Rachin Ravindra and Glenn Phillips.  
New Zealand is in hot form but if it's a typical Chepuk wicket that offers spin then the Afghans will give a tough fight to the Kiwis, you can always bank on spin trio Rashid-Mujeeb-Nabi on the turner.

But in case, they are using square wickets similar to NZ vs BAN then it should be relatively easy for the Kiwis as square wickets won't offer much spin (it didn't in NZ vs BAN).
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Wow, can't believe that strong South Africa is taken down by the young Netherlands team.  They won this match by a good margin of 38 runs and I would call it a comfortable win. At any moment of the game, it does not look like South Africa were anywhere in a position to win this match.

It never looked in the match that South Africa is a weak team. See the innings of Scott Edwards where he made 78 runs in only 69 balls and it was a treat to watch. We saw previously Afghanistan upsetting England and now Netherlands doing the same. This will make further matches more interesting.
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May be they will play like the last match but there is New Zealand and I think New Zealand is better than England. So New Zealand land will play decently and will win today match.
But this is cricket match so anything can happen at anytime. So we will bind our expectations to any team. But I hope that New Zealand will win today match. Let's see what will happen.? Smiley

New Zealand looks like the most balanced team in the world cup now, even without Kane Williamson. They are not overly dependent on any one batsmen, as Conway, Ravindra, Mitchell and Young have all made runs in the first three matches. And on the bowling front, their pacers have been in good form, especially Matt Henry and Trent Boult. And also, let's not forget the fact that Mitchell Santner is the top wicket taker in the tournament so far. And he has received good support from part-time spinners such as Rachin Ravindra and Glenn Phillips. 
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New Zealand vs Afghanistan
Afghanistan will play against New Zealand today. In the previous match, the Afghanistan team surprised everyone and defeated the mighty England team. Will they be able to surprise again in today's match?
May be they will play like the last match but there is New Zealand and I think New Zealand is better than England. So New Zealand land will play decently and will win today match.
But this is cricket match so anything can happen at anytime. So we will bind our expectations to any team. But I hope that New Zealand will win today match. Let's see what will happen.? Smiley
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New Zealand vs Afghanistan

Afghanistan will play against New Zealand today. In the previous match, the Afghanistan team surprised everyone and defeated the mighty England team. Will they be able to surprise again in today's match?

Both Afghanistan's batsmen and bowlers performed well against England. Especially their bowlers bowled very controlled. And Chennai's pitch in today's match is also spin-friendly. So Afghanistan have a chance to do well in today's match if they play responsibly. New Zealand is a strong team. So Afghanistan's batsmen will have to do well in today's match if they want to defeat New Zealand. The match looks to be a competitive one.
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Netherlands 3rd win in World Cup history and Only team to beat SA in this World cup. Netherlands beat South africa in both T20 and ODI world cup. In T20 World Cup 2022 Netherlands upset South Africa by 13 runs to eliminate them, Now World Cup 2023 South Africa lose to Netherlands once again by 38 runs to end their winning streak. Two years in a row, Netherlands have beaten South Africa in Men World Cups. A remarkable achievement from the lowest ranked team in the competition against one of the favourites and one that will go down as one of the most memorable results in World Cup history. South Africa just cannot go past the Dutch. Netherlands today, First Win in World Cup after 16 years and First time win vs A Test playing nation. Netherlands created history in Dharamshala.

Well.. they are the only team to defeat South Africa, because this is the first defeat for the Proteas. And no one expected South Africa to go down against the Netherlands, after their huge wins against Sri Lanka and Australia. Let's not forget the fact that they made a massive score of 428 against the Lankans and then thrashed Australia by 134 runs. I am not sure whether Netherlands will get any more wins in this tournament. Another win or two will be good for them, because once the world cup is over they are not going to get any chances to play against the full members.
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Netherlands 3rd win in World Cup history and Only team to beat SA in this World cup. Netherlands beat South africa in both T20 and ODI world cup. In T20 World Cup 2022 Netherlands upset South Africa by 13 runs to eliminate them, Now World Cup 2023 South Africa lose to Netherlands once again by 38 runs to end their winning streak. Two years in a row, Netherlands have beaten South Africa in Men World Cups. A remarkable achievement from the lowest ranked team in the competition against one of the favourites and one that will go down as one of the most memorable results in World Cup history. South Africa just cannot go past the Dutch. Netherlands today, First Win in World Cup after 16 years and First time win vs A Test playing nation. Netherlands created history in Dharamshala.
Second surprise of the World Cup 2023. The winning credit goes to the entire team, particularly the contribution from the Captain Scott Edwards is big and a much needed one when wickets continue to fall on the other side. His 78 runs out of 69 balls, Van der Merwe scoring 29 runs out of 19 balls and Aryan Dutt scoring 23 out of 9 balls everything made the score reach 243 which is really good in 43 overs from a team like Netherlands. In most of the major events South Africa used to start good, and in between it starts to collapse. Netherlands winning against them could mentally down them and they need to come strong at the earliest as the next match is against England.

It was unimaginable that the Netherlands would give a target of 246 runs in 43 overs. Because the team lost their first 4 batsmen for just 50 runs. However, they batted brilliantly. They took advantage of South Africa's poor bowling very well. In 43 overs, South Africa gave 32 extra runs, while the Netherlands' bowlers gave only 8 extra runs. South Africa bowled like fools. Also, despite batting responsibly in the first two matches, the South African batsmen lost the truck in this match. The middle-order players failed to bat responsibly after the top order collapsed quickly. All in all, the Netherlands performed well. And they deserve to win this match.
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Netherlands 3rd win in World Cup history and Only team to beat SA in this World cup. Netherlands beat South africa in both T20 and ODI world cup. In T20 World Cup 2022 Netherlands upset South Africa by 13 runs to eliminate them, Now World Cup 2023 South Africa lose to Netherlands once again by 38 runs to end their winning streak. Two years in a row, Netherlands have beaten South Africa in Men World Cups. A remarkable achievement from the lowest ranked team in the competition against one of the favourites and one that will go down as one of the most memorable results in World Cup history. South Africa just cannot go past the Dutch. Netherlands today, First Win in World Cup after 16 years and First time win vs A Test playing nation. Netherlands created history in Dharamshala.
Second surprise of the World Cup 2023. The winning credit goes to the entire team, particularly the contribution from the Captain Scott Edwards is big and a much needed one when wickets continue to fall on the other side. His 78 runs out of 69 balls, Van der Merwe scoring 29 runs out of 19 balls and Aryan Dutt scoring 23 out of 9 balls everything made the score reach 243 which is really good in 43 overs from a team like Netherlands. In most of the major events South Africa used to start good, and in between it starts to collapse. Netherlands winning against them could mentally down them and they need to come strong at the earliest as the next match is against England.
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Netherlands 3rd win in World Cup history and Only team to beat SA in this World cup. Netherlands beat South africa in both T20 and ODI world cup. In T20 World Cup 2022 Netherlands upset South Africa by 13 runs to eliminate them, Now World Cup 2023 South Africa lose to Netherlands once again by 38 runs to end their winning streak. Two years in a row, Netherlands have beaten South Africa in Men World Cups. A remarkable achievement from the lowest ranked team in the competition against one of the favourites and one that will go down as one of the most memorable results in World Cup history. South Africa just cannot go past the Dutch. Netherlands today, First Win in World Cup after 16 years and First time win vs A Test playing nation. Netherlands created history in Dharamshala.
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SA are 99/5 in 22 overs. One more wicket and the tail starts. The Netherlands are bowling very well. They have the golden opportunity to beat the most informed team of this World Cup.
I think the Netherlands will beat SA in today's match. At the moment, the Win probability of the Netherlands is approximately 90%. If they get David Miller's wicket, they will seal their victory. Fingers crossed.
Upset has been done  Grin by one of their previous nightmares Netherlands, I can't believe they can beat one of dangerous looking side of the world cup, no doubt they have done a lot of mistakes and bad deliveries during bowling, but they can fulfil such gap by quality batting, but unfortunately they can't, none of their top class batter scored a significant run at such important stage to set a momentum which will later Carrey on by rest of batter. At start of South Africa inning I taught it will be an easy chase when they lose their opening batter and then again rapidly collapse that the point I change my mind that it will be a defeat for South Africa and Netherlands does.
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A big upset for the Team of South Africa we have seen today, although they have some great batsmen and also the best bowlers we can say as Kagiso Rabada who have taken 2 wickets today with following Lungi Ngidi which has also taken 2 wickets. But in batting, they failed to reach the given target of 246. Only David Millers Scored high runs in their all-team of 43 runs in 52 balls which consists of 1 six and 4 fours. Except for him all of them failed to score more runs, and thus they were lost.

The Netherlands played well Scott Edwards scored 78 out of 69 balls which helped the Netherlands to reach the Better target of 246 runs in 43 overs. In the bowling, they also bowled too well today. They learned something from the previous matches which they have already lost to Pakistan and New Zealand. They are now back on the road and are good enough to give tough times to other teams and we will have some upcoming upsets in the other matches. All of them provided their best to the Netherlands Team.
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