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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on January 27, 2023, 12:10:49 PM

England lost their first wicket for 146 runs. But they lost three wickets within 152 runs. Ben Duckett 3 and Harry Brook returned to the dressing room for 0 runs. They should have batted more responsibly. However, Jason Roy is still unbeaten at the crease with 94 runs. And if Roy is at the crease then England will win the match. But now if Jason Roy is out then it will not be easy for England to win this match. Roy must try to survive the creek. Because after losing three consecutive wickets, the England team is now in a lot of trouble.

Agreed about this all suddenly three wickets bring back South Africa into match now all depend on this last pair which is at the crease because after them England having very long tail with Moeen Ali and Sam Curran can do batting but right now required runs are still 133 with 25 overs left.

Jason Roy is in good touch with having blasting Century on just 79 balls, but now it's time to have calm down and spend good time on crease for having better end of this match after having ideal start with opening stand of 146 South African attack are not looking as they have to be for this first ODI against world champions.

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Quote from: John Abraham on January 27, 2023, 11:08:48 AM

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Still, if the bowlers are able to bowl well, South Africa might be able to win. But England's batsmen are very experienced.

Well, The bowlers bowled 11 overs so far and no wicket yet. Jason Roy And Dawid Malan keep charging them. They are scoring good runs. The current run rate is over six right now. They scored 77 from twelve overs so far. I would say it's a good start from England Openers. Let's see how long they can go. RSA Bowlers need to take a wicket here and owling tight. Still, it's the beginning. Let's wait and see the match for the result.

South Africa and England face each other today in a 3-match ODI series. South Africa scored 298 runs in 50 overs. South African player van der Dussen scored a wonderful century in the first innings. Miller also scored 53 runs to increase the team's total. But that total score could not be a big one for the England team. England lost only 3 wickets and the team amassed 161. Just 138 runs needed to win. Current run rate is 6.76 and required run rate is 5.27. If the South African bowlers are not able to take a few more wickets quickly then England will win this match easily.

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Quote from: John Abraham on January 27, 2023, 11:08:48 AM

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Still, if the bowlers are able to bowl well, South Africa might be able to win. But England's batsmen are very experienced.

Well, The bowlers bowled 11 overs so far and no wicket yet. Jason Roy And Dawid Malan keep charging them. They are scoring good runs. The current run rate is over six right now. They scored 77 from twelve overs so far. I would say it's a good start from England Openers. Let's see how long they can go. RSA Bowlers need to take a wicket here and owling tight. Still, it's the beginning. Let's wait and see the match for the result.

England lost their first wicket for 146 runs. But they lost three wickets within 152 runs. Ben Duckett 3 and Harry Brook returned to the dressing room for 0 runs. They should have batted more responsibly. However, Jason Roy is still unbeaten at the crease with 94 runs. And if Roy is at the crease then England will win the match. But now if Jason Roy is out then it will not be easy for England to win this match. Roy must try to survive the creek. Because after losing three consecutive wickets, the England team is now in a lot of trouble.

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Quote from: ilovealtcoins on January 27, 2023, 10:17:47 AM

Still, if the bowlers are able to bowl well, South Africa might be able to win. But England's batsmen are very experienced.

Well, The bowlers bowled 11 overs so far and no wicket yet. Jason Roy And Dawid Malan keep charging them. They are scoring good runs. The current run rate is over six right now. They scored 77 from twelve overs so far. I would say it's a good start from England Openers. Let's see how long they can go. RSA Bowlers need to take a wicket here and owling tight. Still, it's the beginning. Let's wait and see the match for the result.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on January 27, 2023, 09:09:03 AM

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South Africa - England

Yeh I think taking decision of batting first is a wise choice because pitch are not bowler friendly so it's a great chance for SouthAfrica to build a strong target to defend, now the initial batter like De kock and the captain T.bavuma didn't score good to give a strong momentum to upcoming batter for good target. Now Van Der dussen take a charge and score a good partnership 71 runs with a klassen but now it's broken only van der dussen left with 70 not out . South Africa has totally 202 runs in 36 over while four batter are down

As far as I know England cricket team plays very good cricket. A target of more than 300 runs against them in a 50 over match is very good. Because there are some good batsmen in the England team, who can win the match once they form a partnership between themselves.

A big congratulations to Rassie van der Dussen for scoring his 4th ODI century! In the first ODI against England, he scored a magnificent century that led the Proteas to a competitive total. They started quickly but were kept under 300. Is England going to be able to catch it? To win, England needs 299 runs, not a big total, but they must take precautions. There is a possibility that England may be able to chase down the target in less than 50 overs if things go well.

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on January 27, 2023, 08:40:14 AM

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South Africa - England

Yeh I think taking decision of batting first is a wise choice because pitch are not bowler friendly so it's a great chance for SouthAfrica to build a strong target to defend, now the initial batter like De kock and the captain T.bavuma didn't score good to give a strong momentum to upcoming batter for good target. Now Van Der dussen take a charge and score a good partnership 71 runs with a klassen but now it's broken only van der dussen left with 70 not out . South Africa has totally 202 runs in 36 over while four batter are down

No doubt this was good decision by South Africa after winning toss having bat first but at the end their batsmen fail to set good target because right now as we have English batting lineup South Africa needs target around 320 to 330 which could be good for them but still we are going to have an interesting match with England having very good batting lineup, and they all are firing in last few months which is plus point for them but now how they will face South African pace attack it's interesting Rabada, Nortje and Parnell are also having good time to bowl at home against world champions.

Dussen and Miller are hero's for the South African batting as after having good start they have done good batting in middle and reach at the target of 298.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on January 27, 2023, 09:09:03 AM

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South Africa - England

Yeh I think taking decision of batting first is a wise choice because pitch are not bowler friendly so it's a great chance for SouthAfrica to build a strong target to defend, now the initial batter like De kock and the captain T.bavuma didn't score good to give a strong momentum to upcoming batter for good target. Now Van Der dussen take a charge and score a good partnership 71 runs with a klassen but now it's broken only van der dussen left with 70 not out . South Africa has totally 202 runs in 36 over while four batter are down

As far as I know England cricket team plays very good cricket. A target of more than 300 runs against them in a 50 over match is very good. Because there are some good batsmen in the England team, who can win the match once they form a partnership between themselves.

South Africa could not collect 300 runs. South Africa's collection was 75 runs in the first 10 overs. Then their batting started to slow down. And at the end of 50 overs, South Africa collected 298 runs after losing 7 wickets. They should have collected at least 20/30 more runs on this pitch. Still, if the bowlers are able to bowl well, South Africa might be able to win. But England's batsmen are very experienced.

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on January 27, 2023, 08:40:14 AM

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South Africa - England

Yeh I think taking decision of batting first is a wise choice because pitch are not bowler friendly so it's a great chance for SouthAfrica to build a strong target to defend, now the initial batter like De kock and the captain T.bavuma didn't score good to give a strong momentum to upcoming batter for good target. Now Van Der dussen take a charge and score a good partnership 71 runs with a klassen but now it's broken only van der dussen left with 70 not out . South Africa has totally 202 runs in 36 over while four batter are down

As far as I know England cricket team plays very good cricket. A target of more than 300 runs against them in a 50 over match is very good. Because there are some good batsmen in the England team, who can win the match once they form a partnership between themselves.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on January 27, 2023, 06:50:18 AM

South Africa - England

South Africa won the toss and batted in the first ODI match against England. South Africa managed to collect 61 runs in the first wicket pair. A good enough collection. And at the end of 10 overs, South Africa collected 71 runs. South Africa's batsmen have got off to a good start. South Africa should not forget their opponent England. England is a very strong team. So if they want to win against England, South Africa will have to give a big target. The pitch is not bowling-friendly. Batsmen are scoring runs easily. So my guess is that South Africa will not win if they give a target of less than 320 today.

SA 232/4 (41.3/50 over)
It's just a matter of speeding up the run rate for South Africa. A good wicket for batting but too slow for batting. Rassie van der Dussen has batted well so far. He has now reached his 12th ODI half-century and is still going strong. SA will be fine if they just increase their scoring rate a bit. However, he cannot afford to take any risks since only Miller and he remain as recognized batsmen. It is recommended that they bat until the 45th over, then bat hard in the last 5 overs to reach 320+ by the end.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on January 27, 2023, 06:50:18 AM

South Africa - England

Yeh I think taking decision of batting first is a wise choice because pitch are not bowler friendly so it's a great chance for SouthAfrica to build a strong target to defend, now the initial batter like De kock and the captain T.bavuma didn't score good to give a strong momentum to upcoming batter for good target. Now Van Der dussen take a charge and score a good partnership 71 runs with a klassen but now it's broken only van der dussen left with 70 not out . South Africa has totally 202 runs in 36 over while four batter are down

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Quote from: impulse709 on January 27, 2023, 08:28:59 AM

In the ODI series, South Africa's batting in the first innings has so far completed 28.4 overs. South Africa cricket team lost three wickets in 28.4 overs. South Africa have seven more wickets in hand. How well South Africa's remaining wickets will perform is impossible to say. On the other hand, England cricket team also has very good playing skills. Today's match is expected to be an exciting one. South Africa's score so far, 155-3 (28.4)

South Africa team is playing very well so far. They have lost 4 wickets and managed to score more than 200 runs so far. There are still 15 overs to play. Hope to be able to give a good target.

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In the ODI series, South Africa's batting in the first innings has so far completed 28.4 overs. South Africa cricket team lost three wickets in 28.4 overs. South Africa have seven more wickets in hand. How well South Africa's remaining wickets will perform is impossible to say. On the other hand, England cricket team also has very good playing skills. Today's match is expected to be an exciting one. South Africa's score so far, 155-3 (28.4)

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on January 27, 2023, 06:50:18 AM

South Africa - England

South Africa won the toss and batted in the first ODI match against England. South Africa managed to collect 61 runs in the first wicket pair. A good enough collection. And at the end of 10 overs, South Africa collected 71 runs. South Africa's batsmen have got off to a good start. South Africa should not forget their opponent England. England is a very strong team. So if they want to win against England, South Africa will have to give a big target. The pitch is not bowling-friendly. Batsmen are scoring runs easily. So my guess is that South Africa will not win if they give a target of less than 320 today.

England vs South Africa 1st ODI
South Africa chose to bat first and they started good and lost 2 wickets before 100 runs , now after 32 overs South Africa is on 175 runs 4 wickets gone .
England balling is definitely putting pressure on South African batsman and controlling their run rate which is 5.66 right now.

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1st ODI match started today between South Africa Cricket Team and England Cricket Team. South Africa cricket team won the toss and started batting South Africa cricket team's batting is very much in slow motion. England cricket team bowlers also seem to be good at bowling. But if the bowlers of England cricket team can strengthen the bowling line-up, then the score of South Africa cricket team will be within the reach of England cricket team.

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South Africa - England

South Africa won the toss and batted in the first ODI match against England. South Africa managed to collect 61 runs in the first wicket pair. A good enough collection. And at the end of 10 overs, South Africa collected 71 runs. South Africa's batsmen have got off to a good start. South Africa should not forget their opponent England. England is a very strong team. So if they want to win against England, South Africa will have to give a big target. The pitch is not bowling-friendly. Batsmen are scoring runs easily. So my guess is that South Africa will not win if they give a target of less than 320 today.

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Quote from: coinerer on January 27, 2023, 05:49:36 AM

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If you take the stats into account in ODI, Tim Southee never had a great performance against India in my memory and even if you check his economy against India is well over 6.15 but on the other hand Trent Boult does bowl well against India and even in a hypothetical situation with the form the Indian batsmen were in, i doubt they could have made any difference.

That may be true. But given how poorly the New Zealand pacers performed (especially Tickner, Duffy and Shipley), I think Boult or Southee would have performed far better. Lockie Ferguson was the only bowler who held his nerves against India. Anyway, the pitches were very unsupportive for the pace bowlers and therefore even the experienced bowlers would have struggled. On top of that, New Zealand is not a team with depth in their player strength, unlike the case with India, Australia or England. If 2-3 if their main players are unavailable, that will impact their performance.

Yes it's true that the New Zealand pacers performed really bad. Don't know the reason may be practice issue. Or I think they didn't understand the pitch situation. And one more big reason is that India's team was very strong. Its player were understanding the bowling and they know that how to beat them.
By the way New Zealand needs more practice to perform well in the ICC world cup.

New Zealand was a good team in cricket but now their performance is not looking good and India England and Australia have gone to a big stage and they have dominated the game of cricket and New Zealand has dropped their performance a lot from earlier. India vs New Zealand T20 match is going to start again soon after the ODI match, let's see how New Zealand perform poorly in ODIs but how they can do in T20 games.

Newzealand recently played series with Pakistan and won that series with 2-1 but obviously this is India who were opposite to them , the strongest team right now so defeating them was a task for them.
Now T20 series is starting today let's see how Newzealand will perform in that , may be they recover and learn from their previous mistakes and win this one.

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Quote from: ThemePen on January 26, 2023, 11:03:41 PM

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Quote from: eaLiTy on January 26, 2023, 02:32:42 PM

If you take the stats into account in ODI, Tim Southee never had a great performance against India in my memory and even if you check his economy against India is well over 6.15 but on the other hand Trent Boult does bowl well against India and even in a hypothetical situation with the form the Indian batsmen were in, i doubt they could have made any difference.

That may be true. But given how poorly the New Zealand pacers performed (especially Tickner, Duffy and Shipley), I think Boult or Southee would have performed far better. Lockie Ferguson was the only bowler who held his nerves against India. Anyway, the pitches were very unsupportive for the pace bowlers and therefore even the experienced bowlers would have struggled. On top of that, New Zealand is not a team with depth in their player strength, unlike the case with India, Australia or England. If 2-3 if their main players are unavailable, that will impact their performance.

Yes it's true that the New Zealand pacers performed really bad. Don't know the reason may be practice issue. Or I think they didn't understand the pitch situation. And one more big reason is that India's team was very strong. Its player were understanding the bowling and they know that how to beat them.
By the way New Zealand needs more practice to perform well in the ICC world cup.

New Zealand was a good team in cricket but now their performance is not looking good and India England and Australia have gone to a big stage and they have dominated the game of cricket and New Zealand has dropped their performance a lot from earlier. India vs New Zealand T20 match is going to start again soon after the ODI match, let's see how New Zealand perform poorly in ODIs but how they can do in T20 games.

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Quote from: ThemePen on January 26, 2023, 11:03:41 PM

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Quote from: eaLiTy on January 26, 2023, 02:32:42 PM

If you take the stats into account in ODI, Tim Southee never had a great performance against India in my memory and even if you check his economy against India is well over 6.15 but on the other hand Trent Boult does bowl well against India and even in a hypothetical situation with the form the Indian batsmen were in, i doubt they could have made any difference.

That may be true. But given how poorly the New Zealand pacers performed (especially Tickner, Duffy and Shipley), I think Boult or Southee would have performed far better. Lockie Ferguson was the only bowler who held his nerves against India. Anyway, the pitches were very unsupportive for the pace bowlers and therefore even the experienced bowlers would have struggled. On top of that, New Zealand is not a team with depth in their player strength, unlike the case with India, Australia or England. If 2-3 if their main players are unavailable, that will impact their performance.

Yes it's true that the New Zealand pacers performed really bad. Don't know the reason may be practice issue. Or I think they didn't understand the pitch situation. And one more big reason is that India's team was very strong. Its player were understanding the bowling and they know that how to beat them.
By the way New Zealand needs more practice to perform well in the ICC world cup.

Pitch condition is one of the issues. Those who play at home ground usually get a bit more advantage. But it is not just the home ground that India is taking advantage. They won that match because of good performance. Tom Latham also said that what India did they got results but we failed in what we tried to do. India's luck and form were both good. In the last match of the series, New Zealand were in the rhythm early but after that rhythm collapsed, they could not recover the match.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 26, 2023, 10:51:25 PM

Quote from: eaLiTy on January 26, 2023, 02:32:42 PM

If you take the stats into account in ODI, Tim Southee never had a great performance against India in my memory and even if you check his economy against India is well over 6.15 but on the other hand Trent Boult does bowl well against India and even in a hypothetical situation with the form the Indian batsmen were in, i doubt they could have made any difference.

That may be true. But given how poorly the New Zealand pacers performed (especially Tickner, Duffy and Shipley), I think Boult or Southee would have performed far better. Lockie Ferguson was the only bowler who held his nerves against India. Anyway, the pitches were very unsupportive for the pace bowlers and therefore even the experienced bowlers would have struggled. On top of that, New Zealand is not a team with depth in their player strength, unlike the case with India, Australia or England. If 2-3 if their main players are unavailable, that will impact their performance.

New Zealand is currently certainly not as strong as the other three big teams. They are suddenly lacking behind. And I have to mention one thing which is the games being played in India are obviously going to be beneficial for India.

I am not going to say that New Zealand is not capable of winning against India. Currently, I am going to say that New Zealand lost because they simply did not play well enough and wasn't able to hold their nerve. And New Zealand knows very well that the track is favoring the batting side. So, if they can somehow keep wickets in hand, the runs will come. But they could not do that as well.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 26, 2023, 10:51:25 PM

Quote from: eaLiTy on January 26, 2023, 02:32:42 PM

If you take the stats into account in ODI, Tim Southee never had a great performance against India in my memory and even if you check his economy against India is well over 6.15 but on the other hand Trent Boult does bowl well against India and even in a hypothetical situation with the form the Indian batsmen were in, i doubt they could have made any difference.

That may be true. But given how poorly the New Zealand pacers performed (especially Tickner, Duffy and Shipley), I think Boult or Southee would have performed far better. Lockie Ferguson was the only bowler who held his nerves against India. Anyway, the pitches were very unsupportive for the pace bowlers and therefore even the experienced bowlers would have struggled. On top of that, New Zealand is not a team with depth in their player strength, unlike the case with India, Australia or England. If 2-3 if their main players are unavailable, that will impact their performance.

Yes it's true that the New Zealand pacers performed really bad. Don't know the reason may be practice issue. Or I think they didn't understand the pitch situation. And one more big reason is that India's team was very strong. Its player were understanding the bowling and they know that how to beat them.
By the way New Zealand needs more practice to perform well in the ICC world cup.

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