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Quote from: Tony116 on September 14, 2022, 06:46:46 PM

I want to see South Africa being qualified directly for the world cup. They are still a great team and they also have a great legacy. But at the same time, they will also have to perform well. Nothing is going to be handed out for free. And I really don't understand why we are watching a "world" cup which is being played by 10-12 teams each time. I also agree that they should remove the word "world" from this tournament. This is just another cricket tournament with a bigger number of teams playing in it. The World Cup should be played with a lot more teams.

In all probability, the next "world" cup will be having 5 countries from South Asia and another 5 from other regions. So you are right. The ICC became too money minded and they wanted to keep the associate nations away from major tournaments. I would have been still OK, if they ask all the teams to qualify for the tournament. But here, 8 countries are getting automatic qualification and only two teams are coming from the qualifier tournament. In none of the other sports, we have this sort of asymmetric qualification system.

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Sri Lanka is going to be a very interesting team to watch in the world cup, so I am looking forward to seeing how they do. In the Asia Cup, they have shown some really good performances. There will be a lot of sadness if they are unable to qualify directly for the World Cup. As of right now, it seems as though West Indies has the best chance of qualifying directly for the World Cup. Ireland is right behind the West Indies but I don't think they will be able to give the West Indies a good fight for the direct qualifying position. As for Sri Lanka, it is just too far behind the West Indies in terms of performance. It should be West Indies in my opinion as well.

3 out of these 4 teams are tier-1 test nations and out of them only one will qualify. There will be a lot of sadness in respective territories if any of these teams fail to qualify. Sri Lanka still has a 50-50 chance. What they need is 3 wins from their next 6 matches. In that case West Indies and South Africa will fail to qualify directly. I would prefer either West Indies or South Africa, because else the 2023 World Cup will be too South Asian-centric. 5 out of the 10 participant nations will be from South Asia with sparse representation from the other continents. Then we need to remove the word "World" from the World Cup.

I want to see South Africa being qualified directly for the world cup. They are still a great team and they also have a great legacy. But at the same time, they will also have to perform well. Nothing is going to be handed out for free. And I really don't understand why we are watching a "world" cup which is being played by 10-12 teams each time. I also agree that they should remove the word "world" from this tournament. This is just another cricket tournament with a bigger number of teams playing in it. The World Cup should be played with a lot more teams.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on September 14, 2022, 07:45:49 AM

@Sithara007 even though Srilanka have won the Asia Cup, I don’t expect any sudden reversal in their ODI form and thus I feel that they won’t qualify directly. Furthermore I want South Africa to qualify, because they can cause some upset's in the tournament hence I’ll be really upset if they fail to qualify directly, and you’re right too many South Asian team’s may make the World Cup boring to watch.

South Africa has the maximum number of matches remaining (eight), but they also need the maximum number of points. Apart from the two matches against Netherlands, the remaining matches are against tough opponents (India and England). And they need a minimum of 4 wins (probably 5 wins, in case Sri Lanka ends up with 92 points). That means 3 wins from 6 matches against India/England. Not impossible, but it is going to be tough. And in case rain washes away any of their matches against Netherlands, then they will be in deep trouble.

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Sri Lanka is going to be a very interesting team to watch in the world cup, so I am looking forward to seeing how they do. In the Asia Cup, they have shown some really good performances. There will be a lot of sadness if they are unable to qualify directly for the World Cup. As of right now, it seems as though West Indies has the best chance of qualifying directly for the World Cup. Ireland is right behind the West Indies but I don't think they will be able to give the West Indies a good fight for the direct qualifying position. As for Sri Lanka, it is just too far behind the West Indies in terms of performance. It should be West Indies in my opinion as well.

3 out of these 4 teams are tier-1 test nations and out of them only one will qualify. There will be a lot of sadness in respective territories if any of these teams fail to qualify. Sri Lanka still has a 50-50 chance. What they need is 3 wins from their next 6 matches. In that case West Indies and South Africa will fail to qualify directly. I would prefer either West Indies or South Africa, because else the 2023 World Cup will be too South Asian-centric. 5 out of the 10 participant nations will be from South Asia with sparse representation from the other continents. Then we need to remove the word "World" from the World Cup.

@Sithara007 even though Srilanka have won the Asia Cup, I don’t expect any sudden reversal in their ODI form and thus I feel that they won’t qualify directly. Furthermore I want South Africa to qualify, because they can cause some upset's in the tournament hence I’ll be really upset if they fail to qualify directly, and you’re right too many South Asian team’s may make the World Cup boring to watch.

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Quote from: Tony116 on September 13, 2022, 01:22:23 PM

Sri Lanka is going to be a very interesting team to watch in the world cup, so I am looking forward to seeing how they do. In the Asia Cup, they have shown some really good performances. There will be a lot of sadness if they are unable to qualify directly for the World Cup. As of right now, it seems as though West Indies has the best chance of qualifying directly for the World Cup. Ireland is right behind the West Indies but I don't think they will be able to give the West Indies a good fight for the direct qualifying position. As for Sri Lanka, it is just too far behind the West Indies in terms of performance. It should be West Indies in my opinion as well.

3 out of these 4 teams are tier-1 test nations and out of them only one will qualify. There will be a lot of sadness in respective territories if any of these teams fail to qualify. Sri Lanka still has a 50-50 chance. What they need is 3 wins from their next 6 matches. In that case West Indies and South Africa will fail to qualify directly. I would prefer either West Indies or South Africa, because else the 2023 World Cup will be too South Asian-centric. 5 out of the 10 participant nations will be from South Asia with sparse representation from the other continents. Then we need to remove the word "World" from the World Cup.

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I think it is up to me whether New Zealand can do anything like that now. If they try to play a little bit better then they can do it. They will have to struggle a lot for that. But I think batting and bowling both play an equal role in winning a match for a team. I think so. I think Australia and New Zealand are two very strong teams. Both teams have good batting and bowling.

At the moment, New Zealand and Australia teams are almost equal in quality. Both teams have a lot of talented and experienced players. New Zealand lost the first two matches. The main reason for this was the performance of their batsmen was not good. Australia set a target of only 196 runs in the second match. Still New Zealand could not win. If the New Zealand batsmen can play well in the third match, they will win. But if the batsmen are not able to play well in the last match then Australia will win the last match easily. But my guess is that New Zealand will come back in the truck in the last match.

Yes you are right. New Zealand and Australia game will be a very tight fight. I think maybe New Zealand will win this match. Because of that New Zealand players play a bit better. If Australia try to play well then nothing can be said until the match is over. Both teams will try hard to win the match. So we have to wait to see who can win the match.

New Zealand and Australia can perform very well in both teams.We have seen Australia and New Zealand play before but they can put up a great performance.Especially Australia at one time but a lot of discussion and cricket they could shape in their own hands.Currently, Australia may not be as good as it used to be, but still it can perform fairly well But let's see how well they can perform on the field.

I think Australia can get back to their previous position with hard preparation. They used to play very well. Australia's match needs to be re-arranged but I think the confidence and preparation of the players is the capital.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 12, 2022, 08:11:01 PM

I was looking at the 2020–2023 ICC Cricket World Cup Super League points table. With the recent whitewash against New Zealand, now Australia is at the second position with 120 points. Bangladesh has been pushed to the third position, with England on top. Qualification scenarios remain the same. 7 of the direct qualification slots are already decided. And as of now, a total of 4 countries are fighting for the sole remaining position - West Indies, Ireland, Sri Lanka and South Africa. As per my understanding, West Indies has the maximum chances.

Sri Lanka is going to be a very interesting team to watch in the world cup, so I am looking forward to seeing how they do. In the Asia Cup, they have shown some really good performances. There will be a lot of sadness if they are unable to qualify directly for the World Cup. As of right now, it seems as though West Indies has the best chance of qualifying directly for the World Cup. Ireland is right behind the West Indies but I don't think they will be able to give the West Indies a good fight for the direct qualifying position. As for Sri Lanka, it is just too far behind the West Indies in terms of performance. It should be West Indies in my opinion as well.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 12, 2022, 08:11:01 PM

I was looking at the 2020–2023 ICC Cricket World Cup Super League points table. With the recent whitewash against New Zealand, now Australia is at the second position with 120 points. Bangladesh has been pushed to the third position, with England on top. Qualification scenarios remain the same. 7 of the direct qualification slots are already decided. And as of now, a total of 4 countries are fighting for the sole remaining position - West Indies, Ireland, Sri Lanka and South Africa. As per my understanding, West Indies has the maximum chances.

Disappointing performance from Newzealand in last odi series, with such performance they deserve a whitewash. Australia have the capability to bounce back even from number 8 batsmen as we saw in second odi where starc, zampa and Hazelwood scored runs to give some hope for the bowlers.

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I was looking at the 2020–2023 ICC Cricket World Cup Super League points table. With the recent whitewash against New Zealand, now Australia is at the second position with 120 points. Bangladesh has been pushed to the third position, with England on top. Qualification scenarios remain the same. 7 of the direct qualification slots are already decided. And as of now, a total of 4 countries are fighting for the sole remaining position - West Indies, Ireland, Sri Lanka and South Africa. As per my understanding, West Indies has the maximum chances.

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Quote from: romero121 on September 11, 2022, 05:51:02 PM

Truly big comeback, if they've lost two more wickets within the score of 100 runs this could've ended the innings not reaching 200 runs. Smith and Labuschagne made the recovery from the early wicket fall. From the New Zealand end, everyone had given their contribution and little more is needed from few players. Maybe this will keep them good for the upcoming matches. I expected this to be a win for New Zealand. Anyhow Australia have made a whitewash.

Pakistan lost their final against Sri Lanka today.
I lost my best too - Pakistan team was in a good form but they lost on the batting line. Congratulation to Sri Lanaka for being an amazing team

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After Australia set a target of 268 I was almost certain that Australia would win this match. Because recently the performance of New Zealand batsmen is not very good. On the other hand, the Australian bowlers were in very good form. And in today's match too, the performance of Australia's bowlers was quite good.

New Zealand managed to collect 242 runs today. I thought they would lose all wickets before 200. But they continued to fight till the end to win the match. New Zealand did not win even one of the three matches. It is indeed very shameful for them.

Superb comeback today by Aus after they lost 2 quick wikcets. Marnus Labuschagne and Smith rebuild the innings very well and are the prime reason why Aus won today. In reply its disappointing to see NZ failing to get to target of 267. Aus have won the series.

Truly big comeback, if they've lost two more wickets within the score of 100 runs this could've ended the innings not reaching 200 runs. Smith and Labuschagne made the recovery from the early wicket fall. From the New Zealand end, everyone had given their contribution and little more is needed from few players. Maybe this will keep them good for the upcoming matches. I expected this to be a win for New Zealand. Anyhow Australia have made a whitewash.

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Quote from: onecall123 on September 11, 2022, 08:31:46 AM

Congratulations to team Australia for completing a clean sweep against New Zealand in the three-match One Day International series. There is a lot of instability in the Kiwi team; while bowlers are doing their best, batters are having a hard time getting their form back. Australia gives Aaron Finch a perfect farewell by winning the series 3-0. A white-ball champion in every sense of the word. My best wishes go out to Aron Finch.

There was no doubt that Australia was the better team in this series. As well as playing well against Australia, New Zealand also got close to winning the match. Every time, however, it was Australia who came out on top. As I said above, you can do it, and it did seem like New Zealand got close every time, but at the end of the day, Australia did not face too many difficulties during the match. The reason why I say that is because I believe Australia was never really tested by New Zealand in this series in my opinion. Anyway, the next time these two teams are going to face should be at the T20 World Cup. Good luck to both teams.

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After Australia set a target of 268 I was almost certain that Australia would win this match. Because recently the performance of New Zealand batsmen is not very good. On the other hand, the Australian bowlers were in very good form. And in today's match too, the performance of Australia's bowlers was quite good.

New Zealand managed to collect 242 runs today. I thought they would lose all wickets before 200. But they continued to fight till the end to win the match. New Zealand did not win even one of the three matches. It is indeed very shameful for them.

Both the teams played very good cricket. Watching these teams play is fun because you have to wait until the last ball of the game to confirm the winner. Australia's batsmen performed well and scored 267 for the loss of 5 wickets, which is a normal score in the ODI format. New Zealand's batsmen keep losing their wickets which in my opinion could be the reason for their short run defeat.

Today as Australian captain Finch was playing his last ODI so good performance from Smith, Labuschagne and Carey with bat and after this Starc and Abbot were their hero in bowling with this all they completely outclass New Zealand in this series with the result of 3 - 0 we have some late resistance from Philips, Neesham and Santner but this was not enough for having win for their team now its good time for them to think about their future which is looking not good as now we have few time for T-20 World Cup and after this they have ODI World Cup which is going to play in India which is never been ideal place for them to play cricket.

Williamson is also having the worst time with bat and captaincy which is surely going to have issue for them with they need change of mentality which is important as they already have good bowlers and batsmen for giving their best in this game.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on September 11, 2022, 08:37:19 AM

After Australia set a target of 268 I was almost certain that Australia would win this match. Because recently the performance of New Zealand batsmen is not very good. On the other hand, the Australian bowlers were in very good form. And in today's match too, the performance of Australia's bowlers was quite good.

New Zealand managed to collect 242 runs today. I thought they would lose all wickets before 200. But they continued to fight till the end to win the match. New Zealand did not win even one of the three matches. It is indeed very shameful for them.

Superb comeback today by Aus after they lost 2 quick wikcets. Marnus Labuschagne and Smith rebuild the innings very well and are the prime reason why Aus won today. In reply its disappointing to see NZ failing to get to target of 267. Aus have won the series.

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After Australia set a target of 268 I was almost certain that Australia would win this match. Because recently the performance of New Zealand batsmen is not very good. On the other hand, the Australian bowlers were in very good form. And in today's match too, the performance of Australia's bowlers was quite good.

New Zealand managed to collect 242 runs today. I thought they would lose all wickets before 200. But they continued to fight till the end to win the match. New Zealand did not win even one of the three matches. It is indeed very shameful for them.

Both the teams played very good cricket. Watching these teams play is fun because you have to wait until the last ball of the game to confirm the winner. Australia's batsmen performed well and scored 267 for the loss of 5 wickets, which is a normal score in the ODI format. New Zealand's batsmen keep losing their wickets which in my opinion could be the reason for their short run defeat.

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After Australia set a target of 268 I was almost certain that Australia would win this match. Because recently the performance of New Zealand batsmen is not very good. On the other hand, the Australian bowlers were in very good form. And in today's match too, the performance of Australia's bowlers was quite good.

New Zealand managed to collect 242 runs today. I thought they would lose all wickets before 200. But they continued to fight till the end to win the match. New Zealand did not win even one of the three matches. It is indeed very shameful for them.

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Congratulations to team Australia for completing a clean sweep against New Zealand in the three-match One Day International series. There is a lot of instability in the Kiwi team; while bowlers are doing their best, batters are having a hard time getting their form back. Australia gives Aaron Finch a perfect farewell by winning the series 3-0. A white-ball champion in every sense of the word. My best wishes go out to Aron Finch.

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New Zealand won the toss and decided to field. The pitch condition looks like today's pitch is also a bowling-friendly pitch. The decision to take the fielding seems to have been the right one. But in the previous match, New Zealand lost all wickets for just 82 runs. If the batsmen bat like that stupid, New Zealand will be defeated today too.

New Zealand's bowlers started the innings well. At the end of 7 overs Australia collected only 16 runs, Australia lost two wickets of Inglis and Finch. But if Australia manage to score 200 runs today I think they will win

Australia has already won the series. I am expecting Newzealand to come back in this match and not allow Australia to end this series as a whitewash against them. Highly disappointed by NZ's performance in this series just before the T20WC. After this match the next time these two teams will play against each other would be on 22nd of Oct 2022.

New Zealand won the toss and decided to bowl. The start looked good with two early wickets. Further Smith and Labuschagne have withstood the situation and started to develop partnership. The runrate is low, but they're on the stable scoring. At the end of 24 overs Australia have scored 73/2 which is good considering the early wickets of 16/2

They started well but were not able to sustain it for long. Australia gave them a target of 268 runs to win this match. At the moment they have lost 5 wickets and have just scored 173 runs. They are maintaining an average run rate of 4.7% and if they do not lose any more wickets they might win this match. If they do then it will be hard for them to win this match.

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Lol Zimbabwe won, this should give them some confidence and will surely help in the climb up at the ranking table.
Kind of bizarre to see an Aussie scorecard, that's some epic collapse in the same match where 1 batter scored 94 runs for the team and the rest of the team contributed only 38 runs, 3rd best scorer was Extras 9 runs. Undecided

It was a holly molly moment when Zimbabwe scored the winning run and that too against a strong Australian side. Ryan Burl single handedly orchestrated the Australian collapse in the middle order and he took two catches in the outfield and picked up 5 wickets and then when Zimbabwe was struggling chasing the score he contributed with the bat as well and once in a lifetime moment for him Cheesy

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I think the Australian team is going through a very bad time. And loose against Zimbabwe is also a proof of that. But now I think the pressure is little decrease they have won two out of three ODI matches with New Zealand. But today, Australia went into bat against New Zealand and managed to score only 19 runs in the first power play, with losing 2 wickets . This match is still not predictable but if New Zealand can continue like this then I think they will have more win probability in terms of match prediction.

There is no telling which team will win until the game is over. Australia vs New Zealand, 3rd ODI Australia is now batting in this game. He has lost 3 wickets so far. They scored 203 runs in 44 overs. Steven Smith played very well scoring 105 off 130 balls. If New Zealand can bat the ball then the match will be a beautiful game.

Do you still think that Newzealand can chase this big total of 267 ?
I don't think so this could happen and also if you saw the last match they were all out under 100 runs, so don't expect a miracle to happen today.
The odds also suggest the same that Australia should win comfortably.

I don't think New Zealand will win. After Australia lost 2 wickets for just 16 runs, I thought Australia would not be able to score even 200 runs. But Labuschange and Smith's massive 118-run partnership helped Australia set a target of 268. Smith and Alex Carey's 69-run partnership was much needed. The New Zealand team's highest score in this series is 232 runs. We have seen their very bad batting in the previous match as well. So I don't think that New Zealand will win today's match by batting for a huge target of 267 runs.

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Lol Zimbabwe won, this should give them some confidence and will surely help in the climb up at the ranking table.

Kind of bizarre to see an Aussie scorecard, that's some epic collapse in the same match where 1 batter scored 94 runs for the team and the rest of the team contributed only 38 runs, 3rd best scorer was Extras 9 runs. Undecided

It was a holly molly moment when Zimbabwe scored the winning run and that too against a strong Australian side. Ryan Burl single handedly orchestrated the Australian collapse in the middle order and he took two catches in the outfield and picked up 5 wickets and then when Zimbabwe was struggling chasing the score he contributed with the bat as well and once in a lifetime moment for him Cheesy

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I think the Australian team is going through a very bad time. And loose against Zimbabwe is also a proof of that. But now I think the pressure is little decrease they have won two out of three ODI matches with New Zealand. But today, Australia went into bat against New Zealand and managed to score only 19 runs in the first power play, with losing 2 wickets . This match is still not predictable but if New Zealand can continue like this then I think they will have more win probability in terms of match prediction.

There is no telling which team will win until the game is over. Australia vs New Zealand, 3rd ODI Australia is now batting in this game. He has lost 3 wickets so far. They scored 203 runs in 44 overs. Steven Smith played very well scoring 105 off 130 balls. If New Zealand can bat the ball then the match will be a beautiful game.

Do you still think that Newzealand can chase this big total of 267 ?
I don't think so this could happen and also if you saw the last match they were all out under 100 runs, so don't expect a miracle to happen today.

The odds also suggest the same that Australia should win comfortably.

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