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Quote from: laurenB7742 on August 13, 2022, 11:00:10 AM

And yes Shakib al Hassan got a lot of money from IPL. But his performance was not very good in the IPL, to be honest. Yes I agree that he did neglect his international duties at times because of IPL.

There are some countries like Australia, England or New Zealand any of these countries expressing interest in playing a franchise team keeping the national game? Of course not. But in Shakib's case it seems to be the complete opposite. Many people in Bangladesh have made such comments. Because of this, BCB has sometimes warned him through letters. So he should focus on the domestic game.

Between Australia, England and South Africa, the players are quite restrained. Moreover, the cricket management team is always free from politics but the Bangladesh Cricket Board is completely dominated and exploited by a particular group. Here only players affiliated with politicians can do whatever they want. Especially if Shakib Al Hasan is going to catch Bangladesh, the backbone player should he involve himself with casino gambling.

Here is a point that raises questions in many spectators. Why did Shakib sign a contract with Betwinner despite knowing everything? The simple answer is that he signed a contract with Betwinner's news channel. He thought it would be legal and won't bother him at all. But the situation is completely opposite. So he had to withdraw the contract. Maybe if he had a good relationship with the board he would have got this permission.

As per my understanding, any kind of gambling is banned in Bangladesh and I am not sure how this sports betting website approached him as they cannot operate in Bangladesh legally. I am not sure whether online sports betting is legal at the moment in Bangladesh or if they do not have any law in place. As of now, this issue has been resolved but in my opinion this was stupidity on Shakib's part.

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Quote from: topman21 on August 13, 2022, 08:48:40 PM

Quote from: laurenB7742 on August 13, 2022, 11:00:10 AM

And yes Shakib al Hassan got a lot of money from IPL. But his performance was not very good in the IPL, to be honest. Yes I agree that he did neglect his international duties at times because of IPL.

There are some countries like Australia, England or New Zealand any of these countries expressing interest in playing a franchise team keeping the national game? Of course not. But in Shakib's case it seems to be the complete opposite. Many people in Bangladesh have made such comments. Because of this, BCB has sometimes warned him through letters. So he should focus on the domestic game.

Between Australia, England and South Africa, the players are quite restrained. Moreover, the cricket management team is always free from politics but the Bangladesh Cricket Board is completely dominated and exploited by a particular group. Here only players affiliated with politicians can do whatever they want. Especially if Shakib Al Hasan is going to catch Bangladesh, the backbone player should he involve himself with casino gambling.

Here is a point that raises questions in many spectators. Why did Shakib sign a contract with Betwinner despite knowing everything? The simple answer is that he signed a contract with Betwinner's news channel. He thought it would be legal and won't bother him at all. But the situation is completely opposite. So he had to withdraw the contract. Maybe if he had a good relationship with the board he would have got this permission.

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Quote from: romero121 on August 13, 2022, 06:59:22 PM

Quote from: laurenB7742 on August 13, 2022, 11:00:10 AM

And yes Shakib al Hassan got a lot of money from IPL. But his performance was not very good in the IPL, to be honest. Yes I agree that he did neglect his international duties at times because of IPL.

There are some countries like Australia, England or New Zealand any of these countries expressing interest in playing a franchise team keeping the national game? Of course not. But in Shakib's case it seems to be the complete opposite. Many people in Bangladesh have made such comments. Because of this, BCB has sometimes warned him through letters. So he should focus on the domestic game.

Shakib is a good cricketer, but money matters alot. His activities is a true example for the same. In the past several issues have arisen with players from different countries prioritising franchise cricket even when there is matches scheduled for their country. Nowadays after proper agreement only players were allowed to participate.

Shakib-Al-Hasan is a good quality player but he is in every team and works hard for skin care if some more pillars like Shakib Al-Hasan are holding Bangladesh then Bangladesh would be very blessed I think any other player like Shakib-Al-Hasan I don't see Bangladesh, he is perfect in all aspects, he is a very popular player, I think Shakib-al-Hasan is a good player, many people like him.

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Quote from: romero121 on August 13, 2022, 06:59:22 PM

Shakib is a good cricketer, but money matters alot. His activities is a true example for the same. In the past several issues have arisen with players from different countries prioritising franchise cricket even when there is matches scheduled for their country. Nowadays after proper agreement only players were allowed to participate.

Shakib, without any argument is the best player Bangladesh ever produced. Despite that, the BCB has treated him with disdain. I don't want to put all the blame on one side, but BCB overstepped their boundary when they prevented him from participating in franchise leagues multiple times. And whether to participate in a franchise league or not should be left to the player. Because after all they need to earn money when they are in their peak. The board can't force a player to cancel a league contract, unless it is a last resort step.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on August 13, 2022, 11:00:10 AM

And yes Shakib al Hassan got a lot of money from IPL. But his performance was not very good in the IPL, to be honest. Yes I agree that he did neglect his international duties at times because of IPL.

There are some countries like Australia, England or New Zealand any of these countries expressing interest in playing a franchise team keeping the national game? Of course not. But in Shakib's case it seems to be the complete opposite. Many people in Bangladesh have made such comments. Because of this, BCB has sometimes warned him through letters. So he should focus on the domestic game.

Between Australia, England and South Africa, the players are quite restrained. Moreover, the cricket management team is always free from politics but the Bangladesh Cricket Board is completely dominated and exploited by a particular group. Here only players affiliated with politicians can do whatever they want. Especially if Shakib Al Hasan is going to catch Bangladesh, the backbone player should he involve himself with casino gambling.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on August 13, 2022, 11:00:10 AM

And yes Shakib al Hassan got a lot of money from IPL. But his performance was not very good in the IPL, to be honest. Yes I agree that he did neglect his international duties at times because of IPL.

There are some countries like Australia, England or New Zealand any of these countries expressing interest in playing a franchise team keeping the national game? Of course not. But in Shakib's case it seems to be the complete opposite. Many people in Bangladesh have made such comments. Because of this, BCB has sometimes warned him through letters. So he should focus on the domestic game.

Shakib is a good cricketer, but money matters alot. His activities is a true example for the same. In the past several issues have arisen with players from different countries prioritising franchise cricket even when there is matches scheduled for their country. Nowadays after proper agreement only players were allowed to participate.

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Quote from: topman21 on August 13, 2022, 10:10:48 AM

In a report today, I saw that Shakib Al Hasan was shown two ways by BCB, one is either leave the casino or leave BCB. But I have not read the report completely. The more I learned, the more Shakib Al Hasan taught me this. In another report today, I saw that Shakib Al Hasan is walking the path shown by BCB. He has vowed to remove himself completely from the casino site.

Now again luck is with this person as he withdraws from this casino sponsorship BCB announce he could be captain of team for Asia Cup and T-20 World Cup in Australia is very good gesture from this board as they are giving honor to their best player but every time as they are giving him chance his reply is never been positive which is surely a big concern for his fans and BCB as well now with the age factor he needs to change his attitude because he has just 2 or 3 years in cricket, and now it's time for big change and do some better for his country and next generation cricketers which are following him and want to go through in this game like him.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on August 13, 2022, 11:00:10 AM

And yes Shakib al Hassan got a lot of money from IPL. But his performance was not very good in the IPL, to be honest. Yes I agree that he did neglect his international duties at times because of IPL.

There are some countries like Australia, England or New Zealand any of these countries expressing interest in playing a franchise team keeping the national game? Of course not. But in Shakib's case it seems to be the complete opposite. Many people in Bangladesh have made such comments. Because of this, BCB has sometimes warned him through letters. So he should focus on the domestic game.

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I doubt if both parties care about that anymore, they just want to score some brownies point.
Also at one time he was earning shitload amount of money from the IPL and doing so he was neglecting test cricket especially when they were touring away, may be this also added annomisty between both parties.
Some one pointed out "being role model" argument here. Shakib clearly not making his case strong by keep getting in controversies.

He is one of the best product from Bangladesh in sports, but sadly he has never been ideal for youths or his other teammates due to behavior and on and off the field controversies with these all calling him "Role Model" is never been good because he needs to be more polite and responsible but never done anything good which give some positive view about him most of the time he wants to be on main media stream and for this doing things wrong or right no problem for him even just because of him BCB and teammates faces humiliations as well, but he never cares about this all.
His record as player and captain is not bad at all but still he doesn't deserve with this tag he is role model celebrity from Bangladesh.

Virtually no doubt about it, he will be remembered as all time great spin all rounder imo and here in India he has earned a lot of respect due to his all round performances.

But after facing ban he went off road as far as his behavior goes, i remember one hilarious instance where he was cribbing about everything through his wife SM accounts lol

The ban would not have occurred if there had been enough communication between Shakib al Hassan and the Bangladesh cricket board. And there is no doubt that this ban has affected his skill a lot. You know, he somehow realized that he was going to face some difficulties like that. That is why he worked so hard for Bangladesh in the World Cup and was basically the most outstanding player in that World Cup tournament.

If anyone here is actually a fan of Bangladesh cricket they would know that that scene of Bangladesh cricket is not as interesting as it used to be when Mashrafe bin Mortaza was around as the captain.

And yes Shakib al Hassan got a lot of money from IPL. But his performance was not very good in the IPL, to be honest. Yes I agree that he did neglect his international duties at times because of IPL.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on August 13, 2022, 12:58:22 AM

Quote from: TheGreatPython on August 13, 2022, 12:58:22 AM

I doubt if both parties care about that anymore, they just want to score some brownies point.

Also at one time he was earning shitload amount of money from the IPL and doing so he was neglecting test cricket especially when they were touring away, may be this also added annomisty between both parties.

Some one pointed out "being role model" argument here. Shakib clearly not making his case strong by keep getting in controversies.

He is one of the best product from Bangladesh in sports, but sadly he has never been ideal for youths or his other teammates due to behavior and on and off the field controversies with these all calling him "Role Model" is never been good because he needs to be more polite and responsible but never done anything good which give some positive view about him most of the time he wants to be on main media stream and for this doing things wrong or right no problem for him even just because of him BCB and teammates faces humiliations as well, but he never cares about this all.

His record as player and captain is not bad at all but still he doesn't deserve with this tag he is role model celebrity from Bangladesh.

Virtually no doubt about it, he will be remembered as all time great spin all rounder imo and here in India he has earned a lot of respect due to his all round performances.

But after facing ban he went off road as far as his behavior goes, i remember one hilarious instance where he was cribbing about everything through his wife SM accounts lol

In a report today, I saw that Shakib Al Hasan was shown two ways by BCB, one is either leave the casino or leave BCB. But I have not read the report completely. The more I learned, the more Shakib Al Hasan taught me this. In another report today, I saw that Shakib Al Hasan is walking the path shown by BCB. He has vowed to remove himself completely from the casino site.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on August 12, 2022, 10:30:59 PM

I doubt if both parties care about that anymore, they just want to score some brownies point.

Also at one time he was earning shitload amount of money from the IPL and doing so he was neglecting test cricket especially when they were touring away, may be this also added annomisty between both parties.

Some one pointed out "being role model" argument here. Shakib clearly not making his case strong by keep getting in controversies.

He is one of the best product from Bangladesh in sports, but sadly he has never been ideal for youths or his other teammates due to behavior and on and off the field controversies with these all calling him "Role Model" is never been good because he needs to be more polite and responsible but never done anything good which give some positive view about him most of the time he wants to be on main media stream and for this doing things wrong or right no problem for him even just because of him BCB and teammates faces humiliations as well, but he never cares about this all.

His record as player and captain is not bad at all but still he doesn't deserve with this tag he is role model celebrity from Bangladesh.

Virtually no doubt about it, he will be remembered as all time great spin all rounder imo and here in India he has earned a lot of respect due to his all round performances.

But after facing ban he went off road as far as his behavior goes, i remember one hilarious instance where he was cribbing about everything through his wife SM accounts lol

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Quote from: GigaBit on August 12, 2022, 10:10:28 PM

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Although gambling is legal in many countries of the world, it is illegal in Bangladesh. I don't understand how a national team player gets a contract with such an organization. Moreover, Shakib was restricted for a year due to not informing the board even after receiving the Fixing offer. He should not involved in such a betting platform at this time. This is certainly defamation where he is only the responsible.

It maybe unintentional. Shakib probably thought that what he was doing is legal and his manager didn't informed him about the finer details. Anyway, this is a closed chapter. Without much mud slinging, the issue was resolved. BCB reacted in a more mature way this time, and Shakib also did the right thing by quickly pulling out from the deal. I hope that from now onwards, the BCB won't create unnecessary issues by preventing him from playing in franchise leagues. He is nearing his retirement, and it is his right to earn a decent amount before he does that.

I agree with you. As long as a player stays in the national team or plays international games, his value in the world of cricket is high. But when they go into retirement, their value decreases day by day. At this time they will naturally want to earn some extra money. Anyway I think Shakib has realized his mistake. I hope, the cricket board will not hold any grudge against him.

Right now Shakib is like face of the Bangladesh cricket. To me, when we talk about the Bangladesh cricket team first name that strikes me is Shakib Al Hasan. Anyhow he have cancelled the deal with the platform. The cricket board will consider it. Quite often he gets into controversy, but he comes out of it.

We know him as a world famous player but repeatedly such behavior will make him lose the eligibility to BCB. In Bangladeshi perspective a good cricketer can be lost his career early it doesn't take long time as happened with Ashraful. So he should learn from the past. The cricket world does not want to lose a player like him.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 12, 2022, 05:37:49 AM

Irrespective of who started it, in the end it was Shakib and Bangladesh cricket who suffered. And I don't think that the director faced any fallout from all these confrontations. I have heard comments about Shakib's attitude. During the Dhaka T20 league, he had an altercation with the umpires. Before that, there were similar incidents during some of the domestic matches. But that doesn't provide excuse to BCB for mistreating such a good player. Because of their adamant nature, their own cricket team got impacted.

I doubt if both parties care about that anymore, they just want to score some brownies point.

Also at one time he was earning shitload amount of money from the IPL and doing so he was neglecting test cricket especially when they were touring away, may be this also added annomisty between both parties.

Some one pointed out "being role model" argument here. Shakib clearly not making his case strong by keep getting in controversies.

He is one of the best product from Bangladesh in sports, but sadly he has never been ideal for youths or his other teammates due to behavior and on and off the field controversies with these all calling him "Role Model" is never been good because he needs to be more polite and responsible but never done anything good which give some positive view about him most of the time he wants to be on main media stream and for this doing things wrong or right no problem for him even just because of him BCB and teammates faces humiliations as well, but he never cares about this all.

His record as player and captain is not bad at all but still he doesn't deserve with this tag he is role model celebrity from Bangladesh.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 12, 2022, 05:37:49 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on August 12, 2022, 01:13:18 AM

Shakib and management both are in fault here, specially the director.

IDK the exact reason how it started but every party act like a child every time. Shakib do have some disciplinary issue and on the other hand it seems that director just doesn't like him.

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Management won, Shakib dropped the sponsorship deal with the betting company.

Irrespective of who started it, in the end it was Shakib and Bangladesh cricket who suffered. And I don't think that the director faced any fallout from all these confrontations. I have heard comments about Shakib's attitude. During the Dhaka T20 league, he had an altercation with the umpires. Before that, there were similar incidents during some of the domestic matches. But that doesn't provide excuse to BCB for mistreating such a good player. Because of their adamant nature, their own cricket team got impacted.

I doubt if both parties care about that anymore, they just want to score some brownies point.

Also at one time he was earning shitload amount of money from the IPL and doing so he was neglecting test cricket especially when they were touring away, may be this also added annomisty between both parties.

Some one pointed out "being role model" argument here. Shakib clearly not making his case strong by keep getting in controversies.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 12, 2022, 06:07:58 AM

I am not sure why in the first instance Shakib went for such an advertisement campaign.

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Quote from: GigaBit on August 12, 2022, 10:10:28 PM

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Although gambling is legal in many countries of the world, it is illegal in Bangladesh. I don't understand how a national team player gets a contract with such an organization. Moreover, Shakib was restricted for a year due to not informing the board even after receiving the Fixing offer. He should not involved in such a betting platform at this time. This is certainly defamation where he is only the responsible.

It maybe unintentional. Shakib probably thought that what he was doing is legal and his manager didn't informed him about the finer details. Anyway, this is a closed chapter. Without much mud slinging, the issue was resolved. BCB reacted in a more mature way this time, and Shakib also did the right thing by quickly pulling out from the deal. I hope that from now onwards, the BCB won't create unnecessary issues by preventing him from playing in franchise leagues. He is nearing his retirement, and it is his right to earn a decent amount before he does that.

I agree with you. As long as a player stays in the national team or plays international games, his value in the world of cricket is high. But when they go into retirement, their value decreases day by day. At this time they will naturally want to earn some extra money. Anyway I think Shakib has realized his mistake. I hope, the cricket board will not hold any grudge against him.

Right now Shakib is like face of the Bangladesh cricket. To me, when we talk about the Bangladesh cricket team first name that strikes me is Shakib Al Hasan. Anyhow he have cancelled the deal with the platform. The cricket board will consider it. Quite often he gets into controversy, but he comes out of it.

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Although gambling is legal in many countries of the world, it is illegal in Bangladesh. I don't understand how a national team player gets a contract with such an organization. Moreover, Shakib was restricted for a year due to not informing the board even after receiving the Fixing offer. He should not involved in such a betting platform at this time. This is certainly defamation where he is only the responsible.

It maybe unintentional. Shakib probably thought that what he was doing is legal and his manager didn't informed him about the finer details. Anyway, this is a closed chapter. Without much mud slinging, the issue was resolved. BCB reacted in a more mature way this time, and Shakib also did the right thing by quickly pulling out from the deal. I hope that from now onwards, the BCB won't create unnecessary issues by preventing him from playing in franchise leagues. He is nearing his retirement, and it is his right to earn a decent amount before he does that.

I agree with you. As long as a player stays in the national team or plays international games, his value in the world of cricket is high. But when they go into retirement, their value decreases day by day. At this time they will naturally want to earn some extra money. Anyway I think Shakib has realized his mistake. I hope, the cricket board will not hold any grudge against him.

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