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In my opinion Shakib Al Hasan should remove himself from gambling. It is not at all desirable that a world-class batsman and all-rounder like him would be involved in such an activity. However, BCB has given Shakib Al Hasan an opportunity to withdraw himself from the star betting site and give full attention to the game.
Shakib has already canceled his sponsorship with Betwinner. BCB gave him two options, playing for Bangladesh or staying with betting. Shakib wants to play for Bangladesh. However, gambling is not a crime in many countries around the world. Cricket Australia had a deal with Bet265. BetWay also had a South African team deal. And this is probably why Shakib wanted to join BetWinner.
At least a good decision by Shakib because now he is already 35 years old and just 2 or 3 years left in his game, so he needs to concentrate on his game instead of doing things like this at this stage. 221 ODI and 99 T-20 under his belt which is good achievement by any cricketer for his country but right now doing things like this are surely never been favorable because as we all know sports betting is illegal in this region, and he is going to promote surely can create problems for himself is never been good idea.

He can earn good amount within his team and with BPL and few other leagues as well, but going through into this can also create problems within religious affair as well with Bangladesh is also having some extreme groups which can create problems for Shakib as well.
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In my opinion Shakib Al Hasan should remove himself from gambling. It is not at all desirable that a world-class batsman and all-rounder like him would be involved in such an activity. However, BCB has given Shakib Al Hasan an opportunity to withdraw himself from the star betting site and give full attention to the game.

Shakib has already canceled his sponsorship with Betwinner. BCB gave him two options, playing for Bangladesh or staying with betting. Shakib wants to play for Bangladesh. However, gambling is not a crime in many countries around the world. Cricket Australia had a deal with Bet265. BetWay also had a South African team deal. And this is probably why Shakib wanted to join BetWinner.
Although gambling is legal in many countries of the world, it is illegal in Bangladesh. I don't understand how a national team player gets a contract with such an organization. Moreover, Shakib was restricted for a year due to not informing the board even after receiving the Fixing offer. He should not involved in such a betting platform at this time. This is certainly defamation where he is only the responsible.
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In my opinion Shakib Al Hasan should remove himself from gambling. It is not at all desirable that a world-class batsman and all-rounder like him would be involved in such an activity. However, BCB has given Shakib Al Hasan an opportunity to withdraw himself from the star betting site and give full attention to the game.

Shakib has already canceled his sponsorship with Betwinner. BCB gave him two options, playing for Bangladesh or staying with betting. Shakib wants to play for Bangladesh. However, gambling is not a crime in many countries around the world. Cricket Australia had a deal with Bet265. BetWay also had a South African team deal. And this is probably why Shakib wanted to join BetWinner.

In none of the South Asian countries, betting is legal. What Shakib did is most probably against the law. I am sorry to say this, but in this case the BCB seems to be doing the right thing. I have never heard any of the Indian, Pakistani or Sri Lankan players getting involved in betting advertisements. That said, in India Fantasy sports websites such as Dream XI and My11Circle are very popular and act within the legal limits. These website are not considered as illegal. But BetWinner doesn't come under this category and is clearly banned.
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In my opinion Shakib Al Hasan should remove himself from gambling. It is not at all desirable that a world-class batsman and all-rounder like him would be involved in such an activity. However, BCB has given Shakib Al Hasan an opportunity to withdraw himself from the star betting site and give full attention to the game.

Shakib has already canceled his sponsorship with Betwinner. BCB gave him two options, playing for Bangladesh or staying with betting. Shakib wants to play for Bangladesh. However, gambling is not a crime in many countries around the world. Cricket Australia had a deal with Bet265. BetWay also had a South African team deal. And this is probably why Shakib wanted to join BetWinner.
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Lol BCB is famous for dehumanising their cricket great. Shakib is one of their all time great and considered GOAT but look how they treat him from time to time.

Nowadays new controversy came into light only due to arrogance of management. Shakib signed some deal with Betting platform, betting is banned there. Instead of talking and convincing him they threatened him of canceling his contract from the national team.

Shakib and management both are in fault here, specially the director.

IDK the exact reason how it started but every party act like a child every time. Shakib do have some disciplinary issue and on the other hand it seems that director just doesn't like him.

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Management won, Shakib dropped the sponsorship deal with the betting company.

I am not sure why in the first instance Shakib went for such an advertisement campaign. I am sure he knows the law of his country and those who have been managing his PR should have straight away should have said no to such a campaign. In this situation, I am going to support the board than the player. I am happy that he came back to his senses otherwise he could have been awarded harsh punishment from both government and the board.
There is no doubt Shakib Al Hasan is a good cricketer but the way he acted in a senseless manner that is surprising. As per the rules of Bangladesh Cricket Board, this activity is out of the rules, so why did he knowingly do this. It is definitely a crime. Bangladesh cricket board (BCB) was adamant here either he will cancel the contract or He will be released from Bangladesh cricket. He said he will cancel his contract and return to the Bangladesh team.
In my opinion Shakib Al Hasan should remove himself from gambling. It is not at all desirable that a world-class batsman and all-rounder like him would be involved in such an activity. However, BCB has given Shakib Al Hasan an opportunity to withdraw himself from the star betting site and give full attention to the game.
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Zimbabwe batting line-up is undoubtedly great. When they lost 4 wickets in the 2nd ODI match I think everyone thought Zimbabwe would lose the match today. But looking at their batting style in that match, it seems that they are very much mature like top three countries of the player. After all that would be their good come back to the cricket.
Zimbabwe batting line-up is good, but in the third match from the start things didn't go well. The opening order didn't perform well. Further in the middle order Raza didn't score runs, and the bottom lineup helped in reaching 150 runs. On the Bangladesh side, the starting and the bottom lineup made good scores and thats the reason it was able to reach 256 runs even when there is continued fall of wickets.
Between Bangladesh and Zimbabwe each match run score has been very good for almost every team. 303 in the first match in the first innings Target was good enough. But if Bangladesh's fielding was better than Bangladesh's batting, then the match could have been Bangladesh's. But does not try to find the weak points of Bangladesh.

All through the series Bangladeshi batters batted quite decent yet not sufficient, captain Tamim additionally referenced that nowadays 300 runs not adequate to defend. Simultaneously while you're delivering the worst fielding then nothing left to find you as losing side. Bangladesh get won the mast match, as they bowled superbly.
There was no improvement in the amount of batting skill Bangladesh showed in the last match but Mustafizur Rahman in particular returned to his form as the bowling department completely dominated.The match went in favor of Bangladesh. Moreover, the match was lost because the Zimbabwean top order batsmen could not get very good runs.
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Lol BCB is famous for dehumanising their cricket great. Shakib is one of their all time great and considered GOAT but look how they treat him from time to time.

Nowadays new controversy came into light only due to arrogance of management. Shakib signed some deal with Betting platform, betting is banned there. Instead of talking and convincing him they threatened him of canceling his contract from the national team.

Shakib and management both are in fault here, specially the director.

IDK the exact reason how it started but every party act like a child every time. Shakib do have some disciplinary issue and on the other hand it seems that director just doesn't like him.

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Management won, Shakib dropped the sponsorship deal with the betting company.

I am not sure why in the first instance Shakib went for such an advertisement campaign. I am sure he knows the law of his country and those who have been managing his PR should have straight away should have said no to such a campaign. In this situation, I am going to support the board than the player. I am happy that he came back to his senses otherwise he could have been awarded harsh punishment from both government and the board.
There is no doubt Shakib Al Hasan is a good cricketer but the way he acted in a senseless manner that is surprising. As per the rules of Bangladesh Cricket Board, this activity is out of the rules, so why did he knowingly do this. It is definitely a crime. Bangladesh cricket board (BCB) was adamant here either he will cancel the contract or He will be released from Bangladesh cricket. He said he will cancel his contract and return to the Bangladesh team.
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Lol BCB is famous for dehumanising their cricket great. Shakib is one of their all time great and considered GOAT but look how they treat him from time to time.

Nowadays new controversy came into light only due to arrogance of management. Shakib signed some deal with Betting platform, betting is banned there. Instead of talking and convincing him they threatened him of canceling his contract from the national team.

Shakib and management both are in fault here, specially the director.

IDK the exact reason how it started but every party act like a child every time. Shakib do have some disciplinary issue and on the other hand it seems that director just doesn't like him.

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Management won, Shakib dropped the sponsorship deal with the betting company.

I am not sure why in the first instance Shakib went for such an advertisement campaign. I am sure he knows the law of his country and those who have been managing his PR should have straight away should have said no to such a campaign. In this situation, I am going to support the board than the player. I am happy that he came back to his senses otherwise he could have been awarded harsh punishment from both government and the board.
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Shakib and management both are in fault here, specially the director.

IDK the exact reason how it started but every party act like a child every time. Shakib do have some disciplinary issue and on the other hand it seems that director just doesn't like him.

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Management won, Shakib dropped the sponsorship deal with the betting company.

Irrespective of who started it, in the end it was Shakib and Bangladesh cricket who suffered. And I don't think that the director faced any fallout from all these confrontations. I have heard comments about Shakib's attitude. During the Dhaka T20 league, he had an altercation with the umpires. Before that, there were similar incidents during some of the domestic matches. But that doesn't provide excuse to BCB for mistreating such a good player. Because of their adamant nature, their own cricket team got impacted.
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Zimbabwe batting line-up is undoubtedly great. When they lost 4 wickets in the 2nd ODI match I think everyone thought Zimbabwe would lose the match today. But looking at their batting style in that match, it seems that they are very much mature like top three countries of the player. After all that would be their good come back to the cricket.
Zimbabwe batting line-up is good, but in the third match from the start things didn't go well. The opening order didn't perform well. Further in the middle order Raza didn't score runs, and the bottom lineup helped in reaching 150 runs. On the Bangladesh side, the starting and the bottom lineup made good scores and thats the reason it was able to reach 256 runs even when there is continued fall of wickets.
Between Bangladesh and Zimbabwe each match run score has been very good for almost every team. 303 in the first match in the first innings Target was good enough. But if Bangladesh's fielding was better than Bangladesh's batting, then the match could have been Bangladesh's. But does not try to find the weak points of Bangladesh.
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Zimbabwe batting line-up is undoubtedly great. When they lost 4 wickets in the 2nd ODI match I think everyone thought Zimbabwe would lose the match today. But looking at their batting style in that match, it seems that they are very much mature like top three countries of the player. After all that would be their good come back to the cricket.
Zimbabwe batting line-up is good, but in the third match from the start things didn't go well. The opening order didn't perform well. Further in the middle order Raza didn't score runs, and the bottom lineup helped in reaching 150 runs. On the Bangladesh side, the starting and the bottom lineup made good scores and thats the reason it was able to reach 256 runs even when there is continued fall of wickets.
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It seems that Zimbabwe did not take this match seriously because they already had won the series with Bangladesh. I am saying this because no one can expect Zimbabwe could lose by more than 100 runs. It was a golden chance for Zimbabwe to clean sweep and make history but they did not avail of it. Nevertheless, they have won the series, and this want matters in the end.

I don't think that their attitude was different from what they had in the initial matches. They are playing without their best bowler (Blessing Muzarabani, out injured). And apart from a few players such as Sikandar Raza, Wessly Madhevere, Luke Jongwe and Richard Ngarava, most of the playing XI was composed of very inexperienced players. Regis Chakabva couldn't play because of injury and Craig Ervine and Sean Williams were not available for selection. Can't expect Zimbabwe to win, when they are playing without most of their regular players.
It's pretty clear that Zimbabwe squad missing out lots of regular players, and they suffered. Additionally Bangladeshi bowlers moved forward with ball to stay away from clean sweep. Like Mustafizur, Hussain, Islam stepped up once again. Bangladesh has bounce back, and that was normal. If Zimbabwe batted as previous the outcome could have different.
Bangladesh lost their series in the second match. They will naturally want to win the last match. But if Zimbabwe had come to the field with their full strength, they could have defeated Bangladesh in this match as well. It was their one chance but they failed to utilize it at the end. Through these two series, Zimbabwe has shown the world that their position is not over, their position in the world cricket is getting stronger.
I never expected Zimbabwe to win a single match as I was in the impression that Bangladesh was a better team in ODI. Still Zimbabwe batters played exceptionally well and they won back to back two matches all thanks to Raza and their captain. Ultimately they were supposed to lose the last match.
Zimbabwe batting line-up is undoubtedly great. When they lost 4 wickets in the 2nd ODI match I think everyone thought Zimbabwe would lose the match today. But looking at their batting style in that match, it seems that they are very much mature like top three countries of the player. After all that would be their good come back to the cricket.
Bangladesh gave Zimbabwe a target of 157 runs in the game on August 10. Although Zimbabwe try to play well that day, they could not win by a long runs in the last time. Bangladesh scored 256 runs in 50 overs.  Zimbabwe managed to score 152 runs in 32.2 overs.  But they could not hold their wicket. Even if Zimbabwe can't win against Bangladesh.  I expected a better game from Zimbabwe but they didn't do it
I think some games of Bangladeshi players were rahul they took wrong decision some players but played so bad game that beyond saying i think all idiots of Bangladeshi players can't play well in any game there are some girls who get up in them they win again those who  They have to win very important matches but they don't play well and they return home defeated.  I think Bangladesh players play very bad game so I don't want to watch their game.
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Players such as Mashrafe never faced this issue. What is the real reason for all this bad blood between the BCB and Shakib al Hasan? I still remember the BCB handing him a one year ban, just because there was a delay from his part in reporting the approach by a bookie during IPL (he was playing for Sunrisers Hyderabad at that time). He could have been let off with a warning, because he never indulged in any sort of match fixing. But the BCB handed him a one year ban, and he couldn't play international cricket during this period.
Shakib and management both are in fault here, specially the director.

IDK the exact reason how it started but every party act like a child every time. Shakib do have some disciplinary issue and on the other hand it seems that director just doesn't like him.
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Management won, Shakib dropped the sponsorship deal with the betting company.
Shakib is surely currently one of the most followed cricketer in Bangladesh and just because of this he is treating things like shit many times complaints against his behavior and off the field things going against him warnings and bans are also happened but still most of the time he has done things for having some media intention and create problems for himself and BCB which is surely a big negative point for this great player.

Shakib needs to be an ideal player for his country and role model for millions others, but sadly he has never done anything for this and mostly create problems for BCB and live in controversies which have big impact on his career negatively now recent betting company deal even stopped but still a poor decision from him as he never needs to follow things like this.
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It seems that Zimbabwe did not take this match seriously because they already had won the series with Bangladesh. I am saying this because no one can expect Zimbabwe could lose by more than 100 runs. It was a golden chance for Zimbabwe to clean sweep and make history but they did not avail of it. Nevertheless, they have won the series, and this want matters in the end.

I don't think that their attitude was different from what they had in the initial matches. They are playing without their best bowler (Blessing Muzarabani, out injured). And apart from a few players such as Sikandar Raza, Wessly Madhevere, Luke Jongwe and Richard Ngarava, most of the playing XI was composed of very inexperienced players. Regis Chakabva couldn't play because of injury and Craig Ervine and Sean Williams were not available for selection. Can't expect Zimbabwe to win, when they are playing without most of their regular players.
It's pretty clear that Zimbabwe squad missing out lots of regular players, and they suffered. Additionally Bangladeshi bowlers moved forward with ball to stay away from clean sweep. Like Mustafizur, Hussain, Islam stepped up once again. Bangladesh has bounce back, and that was normal. If Zimbabwe batted as previous the outcome could have different.
Bangladesh lost their series in the second match. They will naturally want to win the last match. But if Zimbabwe had come to the field with their full strength, they could have defeated Bangladesh in this match as well. It was their one chance but they failed to utilize it at the end. Through these two series, Zimbabwe has shown the world that their position is not over, their position in the world cricket is getting stronger.
I never expected Zimbabwe to win a single match as I was in the impression that Bangladesh was a better team in ODI. Still Zimbabwe batters played exceptionally well and they won back to back two matches all thanks to Raza and their captain. Ultimately they were supposed to lose the last match.
Zimbabwe batting line-up is undoubtedly great. When they lost 4 wickets in the 2nd ODI match I think everyone thought Zimbabwe would lose the match today. But looking at their batting style in that match, it seems that they are very much mature like top three countries of the player. After all that would be their good come back to the cricket.
Bangladesh gave Zimbabwe a target of 157 runs in the game on August 10. Although Zimbabwe try to play well that day, they could not win by a long runs in the last time. Bangladesh scored 256 runs in 50 overs.  Zimbabwe managed to score 152 runs in 32.2 overs.  But they could not hold their wicket. Even if Zimbabwe can't win against Bangladesh.  I expected a better game from Zimbabwe but they didn't do it
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Lol BCB is famous for dehumanising their cricket great. Shakib is one of their all time great and considered GOAT but look how they treat him from time to time.

Nowadays new controversy came into light only due to arrogance of management. Shakib signed some deal with Betting platform, betting is banned there. Instead of talking and convincing him they threatened him of canceling his contract from the national team.

Players such as Mashrafe never faced this issue. What is the real reason for all this bad blood between the BCB and Shakib al Hasan? I still remember the BCB handing him a one year ban, just because there was a delay from his part in reporting the approach by a bookie during IPL (he was playing for Sunrisers Hyderabad at that time). He could have been let off with a warning, because he never indulged in any sort of match fixing. But the BCB handed him a one year ban, and he couldn't play international cricket during this period.
Shakib and management both are in fault here, specially the director.

IDK the exact reason how it started but every party act like a child every time. Shakib do have some disciplinary issue and on the other hand it seems that director just doesn't like him.

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Management won, Shakib dropped the sponsorship deal with the betting company.
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It seems that Zimbabwe did not take this match seriously because they already had won the series with Bangladesh. I am saying this because no one can expect Zimbabwe could lose by more than 100 runs. It was a golden chance for Zimbabwe to clean sweep and make history but they did not avail of it. Nevertheless, they have won the series, and this want matters in the end.

I don't think that their attitude was different from what they had in the initial matches. They are playing without their best bowler (Blessing Muzarabani, out injured). And apart from a few players such as Sikandar Raza, Wessly Madhevere, Luke Jongwe and Richard Ngarava, most of the playing XI was composed of very inexperienced players. Regis Chakabva couldn't play because of injury and Craig Ervine and Sean Williams were not available for selection. Can't expect Zimbabwe to win, when they are playing without most of their regular players.
It's pretty clear that Zimbabwe squad missing out lots of regular players, and they suffered. Additionally Bangladeshi bowlers moved forward with ball to stay away from clean sweep. Like Mustafizur, Hussain, Islam stepped up once again. Bangladesh has bounce back, and that was normal. If Zimbabwe batted as previous the outcome could have different.
Bangladesh lost their series in the second match. They will naturally want to win the last match. But if Zimbabwe had come to the field with their full strength, they could have defeated Bangladesh in this match as well. It was their one chance but they failed to utilize it at the end. Through these two series, Zimbabwe has shown the world that their position is not over, their position in the world cricket is getting stronger.
I never expected Zimbabwe to win a single match as I was in the impression that Bangladesh was a better team in ODI. Still Zimbabwe batters played exceptionally well and they won back to back two matches all thanks to Raza and their captain. Ultimately they were supposed to lose the last match.
Zimbabwe batting line-up is undoubtedly great. When they lost 4 wickets in the 2nd ODI match I think everyone thought Zimbabwe would lose the match today. But looking at their batting style in that match, it seems that they are very much mature like top three countries of the player. After all that would be their good come back to the cricket.
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Lol BCB is famous for dehumanising their cricket great. Shakib is one of their all time great and considered GOAT but look how they treat him from time to time.

Nowadays new controversy came into light only due to arrogance of management. Shakib signed some deal with Betting platform, betting is banned there. Instead of talking and convincing him they threatened him of canceling his contract from the national team.

Players such as Mashrafe never faced this issue. What is the real reason for all this bad blood between the BCB and Shakib al Hasan? I still remember the BCB handing him a one year ban, just because there was a delay from his part in reporting the approach by a bookie during IPL (he was playing for Sunrisers Hyderabad at that time). He could have been let off with a warning, because he never indulged in any sort of match fixing. But the BCB handed him a one year ban, and he couldn't play international cricket during this period.
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Bangladesh Cricket Board is richer than New Zealand, West Indies and even South Africa cricket board. Even so, their performance is much weaker than these three teams. Even now they are losing badly against teams like Zimbabwe. Despite having a lot of money, the board is not taking any effective steps for the development of cricket or the development of the players. Even after the players enjoy huge salaries and perks, they cannot perform as expected
Bangladesh is developing as a cricketing nation and money alone does not produce exceptional talents  Tongue. They have their Bangladesh Cricket League and hopefully they will be finding players of quality like Shakib Al Hasan, but it is a long process of grooming young talents.

Lol BCB is famous for dehumanising their cricket great. Shakib is one of their all time great and considered GOAT but look how they treat him from time to time.

Nowadays new controversy came into light only due to arrogance of management. Shakib signed some deal with Betting platform, betting is banned there. Instead of talking and convincing him they threatened him of canceling his contract from the national team.
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Bangladesh Cricket Board is richer than New Zealand, West Indies and even South Africa cricket board. Even so, their performance is much weaker than these three teams. Even now they are losing badly against teams like Zimbabwe. Despite having a lot of money, the board is not taking any effective steps for the development of cricket or the development of the players. Even after the players enjoy huge salaries and perks, they cannot perform as expected
Bangladesh is developing as a cricketing nation and money alone does not produce exceptional talents  Tongue. They have their Bangladesh Cricket League and hopefully they will be finding players of quality like Shakib Al Hasan, but it is a long process of grooming young talents.

As far as I know in countries like Bangladesh, India and Pakistan their main sport is cricket. A large section of people in the country loves cricket. And so India and Bangladesh can earn a lot of money from sponsors. Despite adequate funding and people's interest in cricket, there is no improvement in cricket in Bangladesh. This is mainly due to the inefficiency of their board leaders. They are failing to find talented players. And talented players are not able to maintain their form long after joining the squad.
How is it possible if there is corruption at the initial stage from which the talented players will be taken out? As far as I know, there are arenas of corruption at every stage of Bangladesh cricket. First of all, Bangladesh cricket should take a corruption-free position. Otherwise, cricket in that country will be at the bottom there is no doubt about it.
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ICC funds and sponsorship has nothing to do with each other Cheesy, you need to attract a company to invest in them and it depends about the reach the cricket team gets in Zimbabwe and if a company thinks that they can attract more people by sponsoring their Cricket team, they would have already done that.

Well.. I agree. I was just saying that ICC should not spend any more of their funds on Zimbabwe cricket. They are getting much more than what they deserve. If they can't find a sponsor, then it is their problem. Anyway, in the next funding cycle (2024-31), I would like to see a sharp reduction in allocation to Zimbabwe and some of those funds diverted to more promising nations such as Nepal, Papua New Guinea, Argentina, Iran, Indonesia and Brazil. We'll get an idea about it probably next month, when the auction for ICC media rights will get completed.
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