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There is an ODI match between West Indies and New Zealand on 18th. I think West Indies are a very strong team on their own ground. And Nicholas Pooran is likely to lead the way for the West Indies. The West Indies team has already developed a lot under his leadership. West Indies team has already won many matches But New Zealand team is very strong in ODI cricket. New Zealand has a balanced and strong team that can compete with any country.Hope we enjoy the match between West Indies and New Zealand

OK... these three matches are going to be part of the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup Super League. And more importantly, they will be the last matches in ODI super league for West Indies. At this point they have 80 points from 21 matches. I guess they need at least one more win, to stay comfortably at top-8 position in the super league. Sri Lanka has 62 points with 6 matches left. And their remaining matches are against New Zealand and Afghanistan. If Sri Lanka manages to win 3 out of 6, then they will qualify instead of West Indies.

A tricky situation for both teams as West Indies need to win this series if they want to be comfortable, but it's not easy for them because recently they have the worst result with white ball against all teams like Bangladesh, India and now New Zealand, but I am feeling they can win one match from New Zealand but still this is not good enough for them because Sri Lanka is also not bad at all in white ball, and they can win against Afghanistan and New Zealand their required matches even they can lose series against New Zealand but still this is good enough for them, and they can go through into top 8.

Both teams West Indies and Sri Lanka former World Champions in this format are now struggling badly for avoiding qualifying round is surely a serious concern as both are badly going down in quality and need some serious changes which are indeed if they want to stay in good shape otherwise this is going to be disaster for them in near future.

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Quote from: tomos81 on August 17, 2022, 09:52:52 AM

There is an ODI match between West Indies and New Zealand on 18th. I think West Indies are a very strong team on their own ground. And Nicholas Pooran is likely to lead the way for the West Indies. The West Indies team has already developed a lot under his leadership. W

West Indies is really passing through bad times. They have not seen any good performance in the last few matches or series. But they won the last T20 match against New Zealand. Their ODI series starts tomorrow. Let's hope they try to recover from their mistakes. Under the leadership of Nicholas Pooran expect that their performance will be better.

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Quote from: tomos81 on August 17, 2022, 09:52:52 AM

There is an ODI match between West Indies and New Zealand on 18th. I think West Indies are a very strong team on their own ground. And Nicholas Pooran is likely to lead the way for the West Indies. The West Indies team has already developed a lot under his leadership. West Indies team has already won many matches But New Zealand team is very strong in ODI cricket. New Zealand has a balanced and strong team that can compete with any country.Hope we enjoy the match between West Indies and New Zealand

OK... these three matches are going to be part of the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup Super League. And more importantly, they will be the last matches in ODI super league for West Indies. At this point they have 80 points from 21 matches. I guess they need at least one more win, to stay comfortably at top-8 position in the super league. Sri Lanka has 62 points with 6 matches left. And their remaining matches are against New Zealand and Afghanistan. If Sri Lanka manages to win 3 out of 6, then they will qualify instead of West Indies.

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There is an ODI match between West Indies and New Zealand on 18th. I think West Indies are a very strong team on their own ground. And Nicholas Pooran is likely to lead the way for the West Indies. The West Indies team has already developed a lot under his leadership. West Indies team has already won many matches But New Zealand team is very strong in ODI cricket. New Zealand has a balanced and strong team that can compete with any country.Hope we enjoy the match between West Indies and New Zealand

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 16, 2022, 11:12:33 PM

Just to let you know that Netherland is ranked 15th in ODI ranking and Pakistan is ranked 4th. I expected far better performance from the Pakistani side considering Netherland was were not playing in full strength. If Pakistan would have been playing with the top 5 ODI teams the end result would have been completely different. There is a serious issue with the Pakistani side and the selectors should start working on it.

You need to know that Netherlands was also playing without their regular bowlers such as Paul van Meekeren, Roloef van der Merwe and Timm van der Gugten as they busy with county cricket. Even Fred Klaassen is playing the Hundred in England. So the absence of players was more of an issue for Netherlands when compared to Pakistan. But that also meant that they could offer chances to some of the promising youngsters, such as Aryan Dutt, Tim Pringle, Vikramjit Singh and Vivian Kingma. And at least Dutt and Kingma made an impression during the first match.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 16, 2022, 11:12:33 PM

Just to let you know that Netherland is ranked 15th in ODI ranking and Pakistan is ranked 4th. I expected far better performance from the Pakistani side considering Netherland was were not playing in full strength. If Pakistan would have been playing with the top 5 ODI teams the end result would have been completely different. There is a serious issue with the Pakistani side and the selectors should start working on it.

Oh, dear! Right now, ranks are not working for any team as we already have few good examples in Ireland vs New Zealand and India they are giving their best against top ranked teams because they have few players those are playing in England counties and have good experience same happening here in Netherlands case as well but still it's a good entertaining match between these two teams with Pakistan needs to improve as always.

Good thing their bowlers squad is again doing good and many youngsters are already had quality to join good ranks no Afridi and Hassan Ali but still they are restricting them under 300 is also good achievement because once I was feeling they can win, but Naseem Shah last few overs were exceptional even he was playing his first ODI.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 16, 2022, 11:12:33 PM

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Pakistan VS Netherland was a serious moral disaster for the Pakistani side. Netherland were not playing with their main squad and still they managed to chase and we're defeated only by 16 runs. Pakistan needs more bowlers like Shaheen Afridi. This team is too much dependent on Babar Azam and Afridi. If one of them is not in the team they crumble very easily.

Although the margin of victory was small, at no point Netherlands looked to be in a position to win the match. Pakistan was playing under unfamiliar conditions, and without their strike bowler. We need to give them credit for winning the match. BTW, despite the absence of Shaheen Shah Afridi, I thought that Naseem Shah and Haris Rauf bowled quite well. Mohammad Wasim was also quite good, although he was a bit unlucky not to get more wickets. In the batting department, Fakhar Zaman was amazing once again. The combination of Fakhar Zaman - Babar Azam always works for Pakistan.

Just to let you know that Netherland is ranked 15th in ODI ranking and Pakistan is ranked 4th. I expected far better performance from the Pakistani side considering Netherland was were not playing in full strength. If Pakistan would have been playing with the top 5 ODI teams the end result would have been completely different. There is a serious issue with the Pakistani side and the selectors should start working on it.

Yes, comparatively Pakistan should have done better as they are one of the better teams in the world. On the other hand, it is also true that sometimes the big teams are in danger of losing to the smaller teams. As happened in Ireland vs New Zealand, 3rd ODI match. New Zealand won by just 1 run. So this kind of situation can happen.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 16, 2022, 11:12:33 PM

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Pakistan VS Netherland was a serious moral disaster for the Pakistani side. Netherland were not playing with their main squad and still they managed to chase and we're defeated only by 16 runs. Pakistan needs more bowlers like Shaheen Afridi. This team is too much dependent on Babar Azam and Afridi. If one of them is not in the team they crumble very easily.

Although the margin of victory was small, at no point Netherlands looked to be in a position to win the match. Pakistan was playing under unfamiliar conditions, and without their strike bowler. We need to give them credit for winning the match. BTW, despite the absence of Shaheen Shah Afridi, I thought that Naseem Shah and Haris Rauf bowled quite well. Mohammad Wasim was also quite good, although he was a bit unlucky not to get more wickets. In the batting department, Fakhar Zaman was amazing once again. The combination of Fakhar Zaman - Babar Azam always works for Pakistan.

Just to let you know that Netherland is ranked 15th in ODI ranking and Pakistan is ranked 4th. I expected far better performance from the Pakistani side considering Netherland was were not playing in full strength. If Pakistan would have been playing with the top 5 ODI teams the end result would have been completely different. There is a serious issue with the Pakistani side and the selectors should start working on it.

I don't know if we should actually give Pakistan credit for winning against the Netherlands by a quite close margin. Obviously, Fakhar Zaman scored a century in this match. That's a positive sign for Pakistan and Babar Azam also played well. But I don't think that justifies why Pakistan had to work so hard against the Netherlands to win this match. And what I like about the Netherlands is that they took the match really deep. We all expected Pakistan to win this match comfortably. But Netherlands made a game out of this first ODI against Pakistan. I also think that this is a big moral victory for the Netherlands.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 16, 2022, 09:05:34 PM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 16, 2022, 08:43:39 PM

Pakistan VS Netherland was a serious moral disaster for the Pakistani side. Netherland were not playing with their main squad and still they managed to chase and we're defeated only by 16 runs. Pakistan needs more bowlers like Shaheen Afridi. This team is too much dependent on Babar Azam and Afridi. If one of them is not in the team they crumble very easily.

Although the margin of victory was small, at no point Netherlands looked to be in a position to win the match. Pakistan was playing under unfamiliar conditions, and without their strike bowler. We need to give them credit for winning the match. BTW, despite the absence of Shaheen Shah Afridi, I thought that Naseem Shah and Haris Rauf bowled quite well. Mohammad Wasim was also quite good, although he was a bit unlucky not to get more wickets. In the batting department, Fakhar Zaman was amazing once again. The combination of Fakhar Zaman - Babar Azam always works for Pakistan.

Just to let you know that Netherland is ranked 15th in ODI ranking and Pakistan is ranked 4th. I expected far better performance from the Pakistani side considering Netherland was were not playing in full strength. If Pakistan would have been playing with the top 5 ODI teams the end result would have been completely different. There is a serious issue with the Pakistani side and the selectors should start working on it.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 16, 2022, 09:05:34 PM

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Pakistan VS Netherland was a serious moral disaster for the Pakistani side. Netherland were not playing with their main squad and still they managed to chase and we're defeated only by 16 runs. Pakistan needs more bowlers like Shaheen Afridi. This team is too much dependent on Babar Azam and Afridi. If one of them is not in the team they crumble very easily.

Although the margin of victory was small, at no point Netherlands looked to be in a position to win the match. Pakistan was playing under unfamiliar conditions, and without their strike bowler. We need to give them credit for winning the match. BTW, despite the absence of Shaheen Shah Afridi, I thought that Naseem Shah and Haris Rauf bowled quite well. Mohammad Wasim was also quite good, although he was a bit unlucky not to get more wickets. In the batting department, Fakhar Zaman was amazing once again. The combination of Fakhar Zaman - Babar Azam always works for Pakistan.

We know that Pakistan bowlers are experienced. 298 against such a bowling line-up is not easy. Pakistani bowlers could not bowl well. At the same time, the Pakistani batsmen batted very slowly at the beginning of the innings. Imam ul Haque scored 2 runs off 19 balls. It was not a Test match. The batsmen should have batted more responsibly. But they did not do well. Their collection was only 73 runs in the first 20 overs. If they can't improve on this performance then it will be more difficult for them to win in the upcoming matches.

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Pakistan - Netherlands

I was quite surprised by Pakistan's batting today. Perhaps it is a bowling aid pitch. Pakistan is batting very carefully from the beginning of the innings. Pakistan lost the wicket of Imam ul Haque by just 10 runs. He returned to the dressing room after collecting 2 runs off just 19 balls. At the end of 20 overs, Pakistan's collection was just 73 runs. But at the end of 45 overs, they collected 263 runs. Fakhar Zaman and Babar Azam batted very responsibly. Pakistan will probably be able to give a target of 300. They will win this match by at least 100 runs margin.

Currently, the first test match is being played between Pakistan and Netherland is in progress and as per expectation, Pakistan is showing very good performance. Fakhar Zaman scored 109 runs not out and was the highest runs scorer. Baber Azam also played well and made 74 runs.
It is impossible for the Netherlands to chase these runs; they are already three wickets down under 100 runs.
If Ireland manages to win only one ODI in this series, it will be a bg achievement for them.

Pakistan did bat well but Netherlands team batted equally well. I don't care if Pakistan still wins this match but scoring around 300 runs in a chase against Pakistan bowlers is a big achievement for Netherlands team. For me , Netherlands rocks in this match.

After 46 overs both Pakistan and Netherlands teams were at 267-6 . This shows you that how well the Netherlands teams are trying to chase this one.

Pakistan cricket is definitely better teams in the world cricket. 298 runs against them is not very easy for any of the teams. Netherlands players playing relatively well. Even if they can't win the match, they are improving at a slow pace. If they keep continuous pressure against any teams, it will definitely be a big gain for the Netherlands. Last match Netherlands lost game by 16 runs. So If they could play a little better, they might have won.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 16, 2022, 08:43:39 PM

Pakistan VS Netherland was a serious moral disaster for the Pakistani side. Netherland were not playing with their main squad and still they managed to chase and we're defeated only by 16 runs. Pakistan needs more bowlers like Shaheen Afridi. This team is too much dependent on Babar Azam and Afridi. If one of them is not in the team they crumble very easily.

Although the margin of victory was small, at no point Netherlands looked to be in a position to win the match. Pakistan was playing under unfamiliar conditions, and without their strike bowler. We need to give them credit for winning the match. BTW, despite the absence of Shaheen Shah Afridi, I thought that Naseem Shah and Haris Rauf bowled quite well. Mohammad Wasim was also quite good, although he was a bit unlucky not to get more wickets. In the batting department, Fakhar Zaman was amazing once again. The combination of Fakhar Zaman - Babar Azam always works for Pakistan.

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Pakistan VS Netherland was a serious moral disaster for the Pakistani side. Netherland were not playing with their main squad and still they managed to chase and we're defeated only by 16 runs. Pakistan needs more bowlers like Shaheen Afridi. This team is too much dependent on Babar Azam and Afridi. If one of them is not in the team they crumble very easily.

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Netherlands batted very well today. I didn't think they could play so well after batting for a huge target of 315 runs. After losing 3 wickets for just 62 runs, the Netherlands was in trouble. But due to the responsible batting of openers Vikramajit and Tom Cooper, the Netherlands managed to collect 241 runs in 43 overs. 74 runs are needed from 42 balls to win. Maybe the Netherlands won't win the match. But their performance is definitely commendable.

Although the Netherlands did not win, the batting of the Netherlands was very good.The Netherlands played a commendable game against Pakistan but if the Netherlands could have done a little better, they would have been assured of victory.Pakistan did not win by a huge margin, Pakistan won by just 16 runs.Anyway I congratulate Netherlands for playing a commendable game against Pakistan.

Among all the teams in ODI cricket at the moment, India and Pakistan are in very good form. Especially the young cricketers of Pakistan have taken themselves to great heights in the last two years. Babar Azma set a target of 314 runs which is not a sky high but in Netherlands Losing a run chase by 16 runs is not bad at all but an innings game to counter like Pakistan.

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Netherlands batted very well today. I didn't think they could play so well after batting for a huge target of 315 runs. After losing 3 wickets for just 62 runs, the Netherlands was in trouble. But due to the responsible batting of openers Vikramajit and Tom Cooper, the Netherlands managed to collect 241 runs in 43 overs. 74 runs are needed from 42 balls to win. Maybe the Netherlands won't win the match. But their performance is definitely commendable.

Although the Netherlands did not win, the batting of the Netherlands was very good.The Netherlands played a commendable game against Pakistan but if the Netherlands could have done a little better, they would have been assured of victory.Pakistan did not win by a huge margin, Pakistan won by just 16 runs.Anyway I congratulate Netherlands for playing a commendable game against Pakistan.

First ODI match Netherlands vs Pakistan. Pakistan scored 314 runs in this match.It was difficult for the Netherlands to break 300 plus runs to win.If Netherlands could have done a little better bowling performance earlier, but they could have dominated today's match.However, the Netherlands played a very good game and lost the match by just 16 runs.This 16 run would not have been too difficult if they had done a bit better earlier.However, in the next match, I think the Netherlands will correct this mistake and start the match with the intention of winning.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on August 16, 2022, 11:49:33 AM

Netherlands batted very well today. I didn't think they could play so well after batting for a huge target of 315 runs. After losing 3 wickets for just 62 runs, the Netherlands was in trouble. But due to the responsible batting of openers Vikramajit and Tom Cooper, the Netherlands managed to collect 241 runs in 43 overs. 74 runs are needed from 42 balls to win. Maybe the Netherlands won't win the match. But their performance is definitely commendable.

Although the Netherlands did not win, the batting of the Netherlands was very good.The Netherlands played a commendable game against Pakistan but if the Netherlands could have done a little better, they would have been assured of victory.Pakistan did not win by a huge margin, Pakistan won by just 16 runs.Anyway I congratulate Netherlands for playing a commendable game against Pakistan.

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Currently, the first test match is being played between Pakistan and Netherland is in progress and as per expectation, Pakistan is showing very good performance. Fakhar Zaman scored 109 runs not out and was the highest runs scorer. Baber Azam also played well and made 74 runs.
It is impossible for the Netherlands to chase these runs; they are already three wickets down under 100 runs.
If Ireland manages to win only one ODI in this series, it will be a bg achievement for them.

Mate, today we have first ODI between the Netherlands and Pakistan no test match and Pakistan give them a good target of 315 and after end of 50 overs Netherlands manage to done 298/8 a good fight from them against inexperienced Pakistani bowlers at once point I was feeling they can win this match but lack of finishing bring them down in this match even three batsmen reach the figure of 50 runs and Edwards were playing very good but sadly fail to hit big shots at crucial time and Pakistani new debutant bowler Naseem Shah also having very good last few overs which help them for clinching first ODI.

Fakhar Zaman awarded MOM for his brilliant century with today match now I am feeling these associate countries are doing good job and giving tough challenge to big teams, hopefully they could be more developed if ICC arrange some good tours for them from top ranked teams in near future.

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Pakistan - Netherlands

I was quite surprised by Pakistan's batting today. Perhaps it is a bowling aid pitch. Pakistan is batting very carefully from the beginning of the innings. Pakistan lost the wicket of Imam ul Haque by just 10 runs. He returned to the dressing room after collecting 2 runs off just 19 balls. At the end of 20 overs, Pakistan's collection was just 73 runs. But at the end of 45 overs, they collected 263 runs. Fakhar Zaman and Babar Azam batted very responsibly. Pakistan will probably be able to give a target of 300. They will win this match by at least 100 runs margin.

Currently, the first test match is being played between Pakistan and Netherland is in progress and as per expectation, Pakistan is showing very good performance. Fakhar Zaman scored 109 runs not out and was the highest runs scorer. Baber Azam also played well and made 74 runs.
It is impossible for the Netherlands to chase these runs; they are already three wickets down under 100 runs.
If Ireland manages to win only one ODI in this series, it will be a bg achievement for them.

Pakistan did bat well but Netherlands team batted equally well. I don't care if Pakistan still wins this match but scoring around 300 runs in a chase against Pakistan bowlers is a big achievement for Netherlands team. For me , Netherlands rocks in this match.

After 46 overs both Pakistan and Netherlands teams were at 267-6 . This shows you that how well the Netherlands teams are trying to chase this one.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on August 15, 2022, 09:56:25 PM

Political interference in cricket is very serious. If it is done by unqualified persons. I don't know if BCB president Papon played cricket. Surely someone related to cricket should have been given the presidency. We have seen Zimbabwe's party reduced to rubble after political interference. Bangladesh team is going to be the same? I don't see any talented youngsters for the Bangladesh squad when the senior players retire.

As in above post someone mentions if you are living in South Asia then surely you need to understand geopolitics as well because here if someone is in ruling party then we have to manage his friends and family as well and same happening in India and Bangladesh with most of the peoples from ruling parties are enjoying these posts and enjoying just difference is India is the biggest market and have some better system even still corruption exits and having too many off the field issues.

Bangladesh is relatively having too many problems they fail to bring fair policy and develop their structure and system in long run and now suffering badly even now they can go more down and feel the pressure but ruling party will never do any positive work for the improvement because they are enjoying and have nothing with these things and common persons interest.

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Netherlands batted very well today. I didn't think they could play so well after batting for a huge target of 315 runs. After losing 3 wickets for just 62 runs, the Netherlands was in trouble. But due to the responsible batting of openers Vikramajit and Tom Cooper, the Netherlands managed to collect 241 runs in 43 overs. 74 runs are needed from 42 balls to win. Maybe the Netherlands won't win the match. But their performance is definitely commendable.

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