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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 20, 2021, 10:59:12 PM

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Maybe because Afghanistan is going through a tough time right now? Call of the other countries mentioned have their own cricket board and have their own sponsors. But we all know Afghanistan went to play the T20 world cup depending on the money of Muhammad nabi himself. So I think if any team needs financial support right now it is Afghanistan.

First of all Afghanistan should not be playing international cricket right now. The country is being ruled by a terrorist organization which is regularly committing mass murder and genocide. Allowing them to participate in the ICC tournaments gives some sort of legitimacy to the terror regime there. Teams like Australia have asked the ICC to suspend them, but the BCCI doesn't want that. So forget about the additional funds. They should be happy that they are still receiving some funds from the ICC.

Yes but that would not be fair for afganistani cricketers what is their fault as if the team is banned it can be for a long time as taliban is not going anywhere now so ut means all the afganistani players will not be able to play any kind of international cricket.
Players like nabi and rashid and whole team was improving alot in cricket but don't know what can be the best way to tackle with this

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on November 20, 2021, 10:17:08 AM

Maybe because Afghanistan is going through a tough time right now? Call of the other countries mentioned have their own cricket board and have their own sponsors. But we all know Afghanistan went to play the T20 world cup depending on the money of Muhammad nabi himself. So I think if any team needs financial support right now it is Afghanistan.

First of all Afghanistan should not be playing international cricket right now. The country is being ruled by a terrorist organization which is regularly committing mass murder and genocide. Allowing them to participate in the ICC tournaments gives some sort of legitimacy to the terror regime there. Teams like Australia have asked the ICC to suspend them, but the BCCI doesn't want that. So forget about the additional funds. They should be happy that they are still receiving some funds from the ICC.

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Before IPL, India must have been used domestic matches and tournaments to find out the new talents still IPL might have simplified their job, I agree but nothing new in terms of identifying a new talent because of IPL; it has been happening for years. Same way, we cannot say BPL or PCL or any other tournaments are not doing the same. If authorities who responsible on identifying new talent are corrupted then no tournament will help right talented people and IPL cannot be an exception. IPL is big in terms of revenue hence it is setting examples and milestones for other countries to follow.

T20 leagues are good to choose players for National T20 squad only. Right now whats happening in Asia is that those who are performing well in T20 leagues are inducted in ODI and Test squad. ODI and Test is proper cricket and only genuine batsman and bowler can perform there. These picks from leagues are destroying test and ODI cricket.

I am sure the selectors would have checked the background of the selected players. They would know who suits good for ODI and who is better for test cricket. It is not always compulsory that they check their T20 performance. Another issue is there is not much ODI or Test cricket being played and a lot of T20 nowadays. That might be another reason why these new players are being selected from T20 national league.

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Quote from: goku19 on November 20, 2021, 12:57:48 PM

Well if someone is performing in IPL then even if there are corrupted people in system they cannot keep that player off for long time because of so much exposure in media people will soon start questioning that why this player is not selected after performing soo well...senior cricketers will say this media will say and even normal peoples on twitter will also have their say and selectors cannot ignore that for long

If a player is performing consistently the selection board cannot ignore him for along time irrespective of whether they have IPL cricket. When you are selecting players for Test matches you cannot use the T20 performance as a benchmark, they need to perform in domestic competition and if they are consistent they will be selected in the team.

May be there are players that are overlooked, but if they perform consistently they will be in the team.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on November 20, 2021, 12:50:16 PM

Before IPL, India must have been used domestic matches and tournaments to find out the new talents still IPL might have simplified their job, I agree but nothing new in terms of identifying a new talent because of IPL; it has been happening for years. Same way, we cannot say BPL or PCL or any other tournaments are not doing the same. If authorities who responsible on identifying new talent are corrupted then no tournament will help right talented people and IPL cannot be an exception. IPL is big in terms of revenue hence it is setting examples and milestones for other countries to follow.

T20 leagues are good to choose players for National T20 squad only. Right now whats happening in Asia is that those who are performing well in T20 leagues are inducted in ODI and Test squad. ODI and Test is proper cricket and only genuine batsman and bowler can perform there. These picks from leagues are destroying test and ODI cricket.

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I think BCCI does utilize the IPL well enough to find some young talents and later develop them to be a world-class player. And if you think about other cricket tournaments like BPL for PCL, I don't think I can say the same. I mean just look at Bumrah and Pandya. They were not the same before. But India has taken the opportunity to nurture them and make them better players.

Before IPL, India must have been used domestic matches and tournaments to find out the new talents still IPL might have simplified their job, I agree but nothing new in terms of identifying a new talent because of IPL; it has been happening for years. Same way, we cannot say BPL or PCL or any other tournaments are not doing the same. If authorities who responsible on identifying new talent are corrupted then no tournament will help right talented people and IPL cannot be an exception. IPL is big in terms of revenue hence it is setting examples and milestones for other countries to follow.

Well if someone is performing in IPL then even if there are corrupted people in system they cannot keep that player off for long time because of so much exposure in media people will soon start questioning that why this player is not selected after performing soo well...senior cricketers will say this media will say and even normal peoples on twitter will also have their say and selectors cannot ignore that for long

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on November 20, 2021, 10:44:31 AM

I think BCCI does utilize the IPL well enough to find some young talents and later develop them to be a world-class player. And if you think about other cricket tournaments like BPL for PCL, I don't think I can say the same. I mean just look at Bumrah and Pandya. They were not the same before. But India has taken the opportunity to nurture them and make them better players.

Before IPL, India must have been used domestic matches and tournaments to find out the new talents still IPL might have simplified their job, I agree but nothing new in terms of identifying a new talent because of IPL; it has been happening for years. Same way, we cannot say BPL or PCL or any other tournaments are not doing the same. If authorities who responsible on identifying new talent are corrupted then no tournament will help right talented people and IPL cannot be an exception. IPL is big in terms of revenue hence it is setting examples and milestones for other countries to follow.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 19, 2021, 06:29:32 PM

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Well this is already huge and with two more teams in the IPL I think it will not become more intersting again as mor players from around the world can participate and with 10 teams now tournament will be much more longer and with more matches also means more income for BCCI, and I really hope this is used for thr betterment of indian cricket

So two more teams in IPL means more matches, this will disturb the schedule of international cricket as whole world is playing IPL. Recently we heard that main reason of Indian cricket team bad performance in T20 WC is too much cricket in the form of IPL. BCCI is preferring money over enhancing the performance of Indian cricket team.

Too much cricket can be a reason but none of the players wants to miss IPL and neither does BCCI. Two more teams mean more chances for new and upcoming talent and $2 billion earning for BCCI. In the recent T20 with the NZ the team has performed exceptionally well under the new captain, which also proves that the leadership in the WC was not so competent.

I think BCCI does utilize the IPL well enough to find some young talents and later develop them to be a world-class player. And if you think about other cricket tournaments like BPL for PCL, I don't think I can say the same. I mean just look at Bumrah and Pandya. They were not the same before. But India has taken the opportunity to nurture them and make them better players.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on November 20, 2021, 10:17:08 AM

Maybe because Afghanistan is going through a tough time right now? Call of the other countries mentioned have their own cricket board and have their own sponsors. But we all know Afghanistan went to play the T20 world cup depending on the money of Muhammad nabi himself. So I think if any team needs financial support right now it is Afghanistan.

Facilities like gym, running tracks and machijes that are associated with any sports are well established in countries like Netherlands, Ireland and Scotland (which is part of ECB). So it won't be fair if you giving same funds to Afghanistan, Zimbabwe, Netherlands and Scotland. The less developed countries where not essential Facilities are available should be given more of share then developed one.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 19, 2021, 09:12:56 PM

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I have a different prespective on that. If we talk about Ireland it's a much developed country with infrastructure of football and other sports already there. But if we see country like Afghanistan or alike there is hardly any infrastructure there. Such factors must also be kept in mind while distributing funds to associate teams.

I don't agree with this argument. In that case Afghanistan should be provided with a smaller fund, as the cost of living is way below what it is in Ireland. And I don't understand what does it mean to have infrastructure in football and rugby. We are talking about cricket here. Are you going to deny them the funds, giving the excuse of a few existing football stadiums? OK.. leave aside Ireland. What about countries like Nepal, Papua New Guinea and Namibia? These are also poor countries like Afghanistan. So why should there be any special treatment just for Afghanistan?

Maybe because Afghanistan is going through a tough time right now? Call of the other countries mentioned have their own cricket board and have their own sponsors. But we all know Afghanistan went to play the T20 world cup depending on the money of Muhammad nabi himself. So I think if any team needs financial support right now it is Afghanistan.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 19, 2021, 06:29:32 PM

Too much cricket can be a reason but none of the players wants to miss IPL and neither does BCCI. Two more teams mean more chances for new and upcoming talent and $2 billion earning for BCCI. In the recent T20 with the NZ the team has performed exceptionally well under the new captain, which also proves that the leadership in the WC was not so competent.

Definitely no one wanna miss the ipl since its paying huge money which cricket player's haven't dreamed of. India is too good when it comes to playing on there home grounds. So it doesn't matter who is Indian captain on there home ground. Let's wait n see how India perform outside there country.

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Quote from: galambo on November 19, 2021, 10:54:43 AM

I have a different prespective on that. If we talk about Ireland it's a much developed country with infrastructure of football and other sports already there. But if we see country like Afghanistan or alike there is hardly any infrastructure there. Such factors must also be kept in mind while distributing funds to associate teams.

I don't agree with this argument. In that case Afghanistan should be provided with a smaller fund, as the cost of living is way below what it is in Ireland. And I don't understand what does it mean to have infrastructure in football and rugby. We are talking about cricket here. Are you going to deny them the funds, giving the excuse of a few existing football stadiums? OK.. leave aside Ireland. What about countries like Nepal, Papua New Guinea and Namibia? These are also poor countries like Afghanistan. So why should there be any special treatment just for Afghanistan?

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Well this is already huge and with two more teams in the IPL I think it will not become more intersting again as mor players from around the world can participate and with 10 teams now tournament will be much more longer and with more matches also means more income for BCCI, and I really hope this is used for thr betterment of indian cricket

So two more teams in IPL means more matches, this will disturb the schedule of international cricket as whole world is playing IPL. Recently we heard that main reason of Indian cricket team bad performance in T20 WC is too much cricket in the form of IPL. BCCI is preferring money over enhancing the performance of Indian cricket team.

Too much cricket can be a reason but none of the players wants to miss IPL and neither does BCCI. Two more teams mean more chances for new and upcoming talent and $2 billion earning for BCCI. In the recent T20 with the NZ the team has performed exceptionally well under the new captain, which also proves that the leadership in the WC was not so competent.

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Quote from: HUSTLER on November 19, 2021, 11:03:59 AM

Well this is already huge and with two more teams in the IPL I think it will not become more intersting again as mor players from around the world can participate and with 10 teams now tournament will be much more longer and with more matches also means more income for BCCI, and I really hope this is used for thr betterment of indian cricket

So two more teams in IPL means more matches, this will disturb the schedule of international cricket as whole world is playing IPL. Recently we heard that main reason of Indian cricket team bad performance in T20 WC is too much cricket in the form of IPL. BCCI is preferring money over enhancing the performance of Indian cricket team.

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@Sithara007 I believe that there won’t be any major changes in the revenue structure, because we’re coming out of pandemic year’s, and I’m pretty sure that the big 3 won’t be keen to take any pay cut. @galambo you’re absolutely correct the big 3 are bound to become richer, and I doubt that other teams will object to it because they won’t be keen to lose revenues coming from IPL.

The BCCI just received $2 billion or so (almost equal to the 8 year budget of the ICC) from auctioning two franchises. I guess now they can agree to an equal share of the ICC revenues. What difference does $15 million per year in additional funds will make for them? On the other hand, if this amount is distributed among 15 associate sides, then we will have cricket as a truly global sport in some years from now. IMO, all the full members should be receiving equal amounts from the ICC. That is not the case now, since the BCCI receive $50 million per year and Ireland receive $6 million.

$2 billion is a huge amount but most of it will be used to further strengthen the infrastructure base of Indian cricket. I am sure not much will be spent but they will keep that amount for future development. They will never leave that $15 million, they were not happy in the first instance of getting that amount as they contribute a lot to ICC financial kitty.

^ I'm sure whatever happens it won't defect the relation of ICC and BCCI too much. Because ultimately the money will be balanced between ICC and BCCI regardless of the amount. But I am sure that India will make videos of that money and thus we will see a far stronger Indian squad in the future.

Well this is already huge and with two more teams in the IPL I think it will not become more intersting again as mor players from around the world can participate and with 10 teams now tournament will be much more longer and with more matches also means more income for BCCI, and I really hope this is used for thr betterment of indian cricket

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 19, 2021, 01:52:58 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on November 18, 2021, 10:29:15 PM

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@Sithara007 I believe that there won’t be any major changes in the revenue structure, because we’re coming out of pandemic year’s, and I’m pretty sure that the big 3 won’t be keen to take any pay cut. @galambo you’re absolutely correct the big 3 are bound to become richer, and I doubt that other teams will object to it because they won’t be keen to lose revenues coming from IPL.

The BCCI just received $2 billion or so (almost equal to the 8 year budget of the ICC) from auctioning two franchises. I guess now they can agree to an equal share of the ICC revenues. What difference does $15 million per year in additional funds will make for them? On the other hand, if this amount is distributed among 15 associate sides, then we will have cricket as a truly global sport in some years from now. IMO, all the full members should be receiving equal amounts from the ICC. That is not the case now, since the BCCI receive $50 million per year and Ireland receive $6 million.

$2 billion is a huge amount but most of it will be used to further strengthen the infrastructure base of Indian cricket. I am sure not much will be spent but they will keep that amount for future development. They will never leave that $15 million, they were not happy in the first instance of getting that amount as they contribute a lot to ICC financial kitty.

^ I'm sure whatever happens it won't defect the relation of ICC and BCCI too much. Because ultimately the money will be balanced between ICC and BCCI regardless of the amount. But I am sure that India will make videos of that money and thus we will see a far stronger Indian squad in the future.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 18, 2021, 10:29:15 PM

The BCCI just received $2 billion or so (almost equal to the 8 year budget of the ICC) from auctioning two franchises. I guess now they can agree to an equal share of the ICC revenues. What difference does $15 million per year in additional funds will make for them? On the other hand, if this amount is distributed among 15 associate sides, then we will have cricket as a truly global sport in some years from now. IMO, all the full members should be receiving equal amounts from the ICC. That is not the case now, since the BCCI receive $50 million per year and Ireland receive $6 million.

I have a different prespective on that. If we talk about Ireland it's a much developed country with infrastructure of football and other sports already there. But if we see country like Afghanistan or alike there is hardly any infrastructure there. Such factors must also be kept in mind while distributing funds to associate teams.

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Quote from: Theones on November 18, 2021, 12:16:39 PM

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In Asia, except for India, I think most countries' economies are struggling and they have bigger problems to solve and that's why cricket comes later in their mind. And also the politics in the cricket board has big effects on the team. Because I have seen in Bangladesh domestic cricket that the team which has more powerful owner wins against the team having low budget. And it causes a big mental effect on the players as they know that there is no point playing this game because they are going to lose.

Its not only the case with cricket but in every economically struggling country sports are downgrade in terms of priorities. So its nothing new that in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri lanka cricket is not getting due attention of authorities and politics have major influence over the game. Cricket teams of Sri lanka and Bangladesh need quick repair else they may lose there test status.

Your point is good but still in Pakistan we have some very good talent, and they are coming out despite many internal and external issues and many players done outstanding performance even recently very long time they are completely out of home with terror attacks but still cricket is having some big impact here.

In Bangladesh and Sri Lanka case they are serious losing cricket attraction because of very poor management and talent hunt programs which are very important Sri Lanka also done good, but recently they are also having very serious issues on and off the field which are hurting them hopefully they will come out from them.

But, in case of Bangladesh their system is really poor and in last 20 years they are completely failed to give any big surprise even they are doing down very quickly which is worst for their development because with this all they completely fail to attract economical strong investments which hurt them.

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Quote from: virasog on November 19, 2021, 02:30:09 AM

I have a breaking and a sort of sad news for the cricket lovers who loved to see AB de Villiers. He has announced his retirement from all cricket means that he will not be playing in IPL or any other match.

https://twitter.com/ESPNcricinfo/status/1461591610496413697

Yes I have also seen this news and it honestly made me sad but when I heard that everybody else returned from the international arena I thought he could play some more cricket for the South African cricket team. But he's a legend of this game and will be remembered for a long time. Thank you Mr 360.

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Quote from: virasog on November 19, 2021, 02:30:09 AM

I have a breaking and a sort of sad news for the cricket lovers who loved to see AB de Villiers. He has announced his retirement from all cricket means that he will not be playing in IPL or any other match.

https://twitter.com/ESPNcricinfo/status/1461591610496413697

When ab devillers plays the whole match becomes highlights. Some players will never be forgotten in the history of cricket and Abraham Benjamin de Villiers is one of them. There are 3 types of batsmen, Right hander, Left hander and AB De Villiers

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