Topic: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] - page 978. (Read 160951 times)

No one in the cricketing world really worries about the future of Indian cricket. But the big question is about the future of cricket itself. Almost all the other sports have expanded during the last 10-15 years, while cricket is probably the only sport that has contracted. Teams like Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka are no longer capable of competing at international level.

FIFA is expanding the world cup from current 32 teams to 48 in the next cycle (2026). Even the Kabaddi World Cup has expanded to 12 teams and the next ODI cricket world cup will feature just 10 teams (2023). The ICC successfully managed to sabotage inclusion of cricket for the 2028 Olympics a few months back and now says that they are dedicated to 2032 edition. That was perhaps the last chance to regain some of the lost ground.

Until some 10-15 years ago, cricket was expanding at a steady pace. Many new members were competing in regional tournaments and most of these teams were comprised of native players. But then ICC did two things - first they reduced the funding for associate nations to almost zero, and then they implemented a laughable eligibility criteria that is unheard in any other sports. Any foreigner who is staying for a few months in another country suddenly became eligible for representing that country. Many decades of hard work put in to globalizing cricket was undone within a very short period.

Nothing to worry about bhai, to me Indian cricket future looks bright and i'm sure that management will take care of transition period because BCCI's past record is not bad in this regard when comparing to other boards. When Sachin, Gangully,Dravid,Laxman took retirement transition was smooth, same thing happened when Dhoni, Raina, Zaheer, , Sehwag etc took retirement. Just give enough time to young blood.

In the next 3-4 years, many of the senior players including Virat Kohli, Ajinkya Rahane, Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Cheteshwar Pujara, Ravichandran Ashwin and Ishant Sharma are going to retire. That makes me a bit worried about the future, as I don't believe that any of the younger players have shown the maturity to replace these seniors. Perhaps with the exception of Shreyas Iyer, none of them has shown the ability to dig in and build partnerships. And we still badly lack a pace bowling all rounder. Shardul comes close, but his batting skills need to improve.

Yeah soon after T-20 WC and i don't see BCCI extending his contract. Well IMO Dravid bhai is playing long game for the good reason, he's engaged with the youth and we all know every young player adore him. Many of them already started ranking up and soon they will start replacing old players, may be in next 2-4 years.

I don't want to limit his role to coaching. The coach doesn't have much to do with the Indian national team, as the training routine and other details are decided by the captain. If Dravid attempts to enforce some discipline, then there will be rebellion from the players. I think he is best suited for the role of ICC chairman or the BCCI president. He is not money minded (unlike the current ICC chairman) and I am sure that he will do a lot of good things to cricket. Appointing him as the coach will be like under-utilizing him.

Absolutely love the idea. At grass-roots level, he has made a significant impact that cannot be duplicated. His nursing has so far been limited to the Indian B team or the women's team. How long can Dravid continue to develop only junior talent! Only he can shape the Indian National team better than any other coach. He is best suited to coach India's national team, so Ravi Shastri should be replaced.

Rahul Dravid has an exceptional record in the coaching domain. He was the coach of the Indian women's team for a short-while and did a good job during that period. And once again, he is lauded for his efforts in the Sri Lankan tour. Personally, I believe that anyone other than Ravi Shastri as the coach would be good for the Indian national team. I still don't know what is his contribution to the team, even after staying as the coach for the last two years. I am yet to see any positive contribution from him.

Rahul Dravid is coaching the youngsters for a long time and he will be the right candidate to replace Ravi Shastri and it does not matter if he is quite in the public he will take the team to the next level because we can literally see the difference in young talents that are coming up and the credit should be given to Rahul Dravid and is other coaching staffs for grooming them and i am sure he will do a wonderful job .

Sorry, for posting on this thread. It's my small mistake. Extremely sorry.... /


I watched the match. Australia won the first match. Although the West Indies players have performed very well. The team is trying their best to stabilize themself. In yesterday's match, Australia lost all their wickets by just 187 runs after batting first. It was an easy and expected win for the West Indies team.

There is a separate thread for T20. It will be better to discuss this match there.

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Did anyone watched yesterday's ODI between West Indies and Australia? It was a low scoring match, but in the end West Indies scored another victory over the Australians. Batting first, Australia could manage just 187. However, they had West Indies down to 72/5 (at this point Evin Lewis, Darren Bravo and Kieron Pollard were back in the pavillion). But the a partnership between Jason Holder and Nicholas Pooran gave them a victory. For the Australians, once again Mitchell Starc was exceptional (10-1-26-3), but none of the other bowlers gave him any support.

After a remarkable win against India in the previous match, Sri Lanka decided to field after winning the toss today. I am enjoying this match now. In the first ball, India lost the crucial wicket of their experienced batsman Prithvi Shaw. Prithvi Shaw did not perform well in the previous match too. The Indian team expects better performance from him. I bet today on India's victory. Hopefully they will disappoint me in today's match.

^^^^ I didn't knew that damaadji's contract is about to end. And the signal from the BCCI was quite clear, when they sent Rahul Dravid as the coach for the India team on Sri Lanka tour. But I am afraid that a soft-spoken guy like Dravid may not be able to adjust himself with the likes of Kohli, Rohit and Pant. Kohli is just the polar opposite of what Dravid is. The former is known as an aggressive player, and even as a bully. While the latter is without an argument regarded as one of the gentleman to have played the game at international level.

We just lost WTC, only 30ish days so don't hold your breathe.

And no i didn't (I said that his opponents are going to be vocal, that's it) plus I said that he's going to be in trouble after T-20 WC or may be next 2023 50 overs World cup because trophies matters, i also said that Shashtri's contract is about to finish and i don't see any real possibility of new contract. As far as i know only tiny section of media raise questions on Kohli's captaincy, no officials are vocal atm but it can change very quickly.

Kohli does have 4-5 years but not as a captain, that i'm sure of.

LOL.. Kohli has at least 4 years of international cricket left. So why do you think that his reign is about to end? If I remember correctly, you were saying the same after India lost the WTC final as well. It is clear that no one in the BCCI has the courage to take any action against him. There were proposals to limit Kohli's captaincy to test format, and make someone else the ODI and T20 captain. But that was never put in to practise, because the board didn't wanted to antagonize Kohli. Personally, I don't think that this is a serious issue. Indian team performs well irrespective of who handles the captaincy. So if the BCCI want to continue with the status quo, it is perfectly OK with me.

Smith didn't receive any harsh treatment from the ICC tho, they only handed out like 3-5 matches ban to everyone if my memory serves me well. It was CA who took the decision of banning, another addition angle (not main tho) in this story is most of the CA officials hated Warner because of his rebellion behavior.

You're spot on. In my point of view all CA did is damage control in this drama and i also failed to understand that how come they banned only batsmen (warner, smith bancroft) and gave clean chit to their fast bowlers especially Starc.

On kohli well he's reign is about to finish so don't worry about him much. He legend as far as his batting is concern but when it comes to captaincy, he's shit.

At this point, the BCCI bosses needs his support very badly. The BCCI is divided in to two camps. The one led by Sourav Ganguly-Jay Shah-Anurag Thakur is in power now, but they are in a sticky wicket as their majority is bare minimum (out of the 38 state associations, only around 20 support this group). The other camp led by Sharad Pawar-N Srinivasan has remained out of power since the NDA came to power in 2014. Both the camps are not interested in any well being of the game. They are only interested in the $1 billion revenue that BCCI generates every year. Given the conditions, it will be unwise for either of these two camps to antagonize Virat Kohli. So for now, they will dance to his whims and fancies.

Virat Kohli never gets any harsh treatment from the BCCI. I think because there is no one in the team or the management who opposes him. If they do they are dropped from the team. He was able to replace Kumble in the past. He is blindly supported by BCCI no matter if he is in fault or not. I guess he might have a strong political support within BCCI and outside too.

I agree with you on Shakib and Kohli. Shakib has a reputation of being short tempered, and clearly that hasn't helped things. However, I believe that Smith received disproportionately harsh treatment from the ICC and CA. When players can use saliva and sweat for changing the condition of the ball, then why only sandpaper is illegal? Also, it doesn't make any sense to ban two batsmen for ball tampering. Do you really believe that the Australian bowlers are all angels and they had no idea about this?

So what is your opinion on how we should treat our national hero's. Virat Kohli has done to much good for the indian cricket and if indian board treat him as a legend, what's wrong in this (as long as he does not demand something unrealistic) ?

However, if any one is involved in ball tempering or any illegal activity then the board should not support the player, no matter how good he was for the country and the team.

There are voice coming from others for the BCCI supporting Virat Kohli blindly and whatever he says will be executed and he is in a different space altogether and the situation with Shakib Al Hasan and their cricket board is soar and if not for his talents he will be sitting at home. Steve Smith had that same reputation with the board but after the ball tampering incident that honeymoon period is over but not that soar.