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August 06, 2013, 09:16:08 AM
are these guys legit? they seem kind of flaky with responding to refunds, queue position, support tickets and basic communications. also i am trying to find info on how many people cancelled and or got/asked for a refund, if i order now what will be my queue position?

edit: there seems to be alot of backlash on refunds, I just googled them and see a ton of sites badmouthing them, why dont they stand up for themselves?

nobody answered my questions regarding refunds and cancels, it looks like only a handfull of people are still holding their orders?

are you guys cancelling to go with bitfury or others instead?
legendary
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August 06, 2013, 09:14:27 AM

If I don't add modules in my hosted Large it will be pretty much useless in 1-2 months. I won't be able to afford even the hosting expenses let alone break even...
I haven't done the figures (too scared ) but I think this is going to be a huge problem for people in the near future. Hosting eating away at your ROI and the dilemma of what to do when it goes negative. You know the minute you pull out and sell it (if your overseas and it uneconomical to ship back to you) then BTC will double  Sad .
You hit the nail on the head! I am mining for 1 reason,,, My faith in BTC and that it will rise in value thus making the investment quite worthy down the road. If I beleived BTC was going to stay at 100.00 then this would be really just  a waste of time. Simple: 45 g/hash income now 424.00 per week. BTC doubles 848.00 per week Smiley Thats the theory as difficulty rises and BTC is more widely excepted. Let hope! Smiley
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August 06, 2013, 08:24:37 AM
This was always the issue i had with TH, they didnt seem to be making a mark up on chips, costs on boards are tight with little margin, I do hope it works out but see little room for any discount..

$950 for 16 Gh/s versus BitFury at $500 for 25 Gh/s...   I knowingly paid a premium for the TH boards under the assumption that that the Avalon chips would arrive in a timely manner and I'd be mining sooner with the K-64 cards than I would with the Bitfury boards.  Now it appears that Bitfury cards will arrive before the Avalon chips and before my BFL singles ever get built.  

Not the fault of TH of course, I blame YiFu and no one else for the Avalon chip fiasco.

To be fair the $500 for 25Gh is October price for H-board only.
I paid $1.3k for Aug kit.
Hope it ships soon though. I can just hear my investments melting away.
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August 06, 2013, 08:19:16 AM
This was always the issue i had with TH, they didnt seem to be making a mark up on chips, costs on boards are tight with little margin, I do hope it works out but see little room for any discount..

$950 for 16 Gh/s versus BitFury at $500 for 25 Gh/s...   I knowingly paid a premium for the TH boards under the assumption that that the Avalon chips would arrive in a timely manner and I'd be mining sooner with the K-64 cards than I would with the Bitfury boards.  Now it appears that Bitfury cards will arrive before the Avalon chips and before my BFL singles ever get built.  

Not the fault of TH of course, I blame YiFu and no one else for the Avalon chip fiasco.
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August 06, 2013, 08:12:54 AM
This was always the issue i had with TH, they didnt seem to be making a mark up on chips, costs on boards are tight with little margin, I do hope it works out but see little room for any discount..
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August 06, 2013, 05:54:01 AM
I think Terrahash, out of courtesy and appreciation to its first batch customers (us guys)... should consider offering us a Second Pre-order opportunity prior to reopening to the public,,,and maybe offer all of us who have hung tight with them a chance to purchase up to 2-k64's or 8-k16's  (128 chips) for example" at a respectable discount ( even 5-10% Smiley ), But only after the first batch has shipped and been received. Thus giving us a chance to help make up for lost time if any, or just a way to say thank you! If they ship us, then they know we are good paying customers, and it would be easy to to do for Terrahash as they would have the production machine rolling, and they would know, by limiting the amounts of G/Hash we can reorder at max, then there would be no big surprise for them in inventory counts. I think something like this could be a WIN WIN for us as well as Terrahash!...Think about it please Terrahash..... Might would be a good contolled stratigic order move that would serve your budget well and smoothly....Even if only for a limited 12 hour hour order window for us,,,so long as we get an email first! Ok, just thinking outside the box ,,,maybe wishfull thinking but deserves some consideration I would think Smiley

After receiving this order and hopefully breaking even I will not be making another ASIC order until next generation comes out unless these boards will be made available at much lower prices. By the time we get our boards the difficulty will be over 50M. Adding more cards at the initial price is just going to put you further in the hole.
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August 06, 2013, 01:52:16 AM

If I don't add modules in my hosted Large it will be pretty much useless in 1-2 months. I won't be able to afford even the hosting expenses let alone break even...
I haven't done the figures (too scared ) but I think this is going to be a huge problem for people in the near future. Hosting eating away at your ROI and the dilemma of what to do when it goes negative. You know the minute you pull out and sell it (if your overseas and it uneconomical to ship back to you) then BTC will double  Sad .
legendary
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August 06, 2013, 01:17:34 AM
I think Terrahash, out of courtesy and appreciation to its first batch customers (us guys)... should consider offering us a Second Pre-order opportunity prior to reopening to the public,,,and maybe offer all of us who have hung tight with them a chance to purchase up to 2-k64's or 8-k16's  (128 chips) for example" at a respectable discount ( even 5-10% Smiley ), But only after the first batch has shipped and been received. Thus giving us a chance to help make up for lost time if any, or just a way to say thank you! If they ship us, then they know we are good paying customers, and it would be easy to to do for Terrahash as they would have the production machine rolling, and they would know, by limiting the amounts of G/Hash we can reorder at max, then there would be no big surprise for them in inventory counts. I think something like this could be a WIN WIN for us as well as Terrahash!...Think about it please Terrahash..... Might would be a good contolled stratigic order move that would serve your budget well and smoothly....Even if only for a limited 12 hour hour order window for us,,,so long as we get an email first! Ok, just thinking outside the box ,,,maybe wishfull thinking but deserves some consideration I would think Smiley
THIS!
If I don't add modules in my hosted Large it will be pretty much useless in 1-2 months. I won't be able to afford even the hosting expenses let alone break even...
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August 06, 2013, 12:52:05 AM
For those saying that we claimed to have all the components in hand, I would like to quote the following for reference:

For an update: We have all the parts/components needed for assembly of up to 200,000 chips (12,500 K16s) either on stock, on the way to us, or on order due to be delivered within the next 2 weeks.

As for the PCBs, turn-around time for them can be as little as 2 days. Even for an order of 1000 K64s, most shops start delivering 200 boards everyday from the 2nd or 3rd day. There are atleast 50 board houses here in Bay Area.
Hey guys, many of us are wondering ..how many pci-e power plugs will there be on a k64 board...one per board or 4 for each part of the k64 (4 pci-e)?
THX  Cheesy

Each per K16 board. So that is 4 per K64. The K64s would have perforations between the K16s so that they can be separated easily, if need be.

Terrahash will be supplying all the I2c cables that would be required for each order correct? just wondering if they will also need 4 I2c cables as well? Also on the same line of thought. Why make k64's at all if they need all the same connections? I asked this earlier in the thread but you may have missed it. just seems like since they can just be broken up why not just make k16's only? just curious. thx!
legendary
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August 06, 2013, 12:23:53 AM
For those saying that we claimed to have all the components in hand, I would like to quote the following for reference:

For an update: We have all the parts/components needed for assembly of up to 200,000 chips (12,500 K16s) either on stock, on the way to us, or on order due to be delivered within the next 2 weeks.

As for the PCBs, turn-around time for them can be as little as 2 days. Even for an order of 1000 K64s, most shops start delivering 200 boards everyday from the 2nd or 3rd day. There are atleast 50 board houses here in Bay Area.
Hey guys, many of us are wondering ..how many pci-e power plugs will there be on a k64 board...one per board or 4 for each part of the k64 (4 pci-e)?
THX  Cheesy

Each per K16 board. So that is 4 per K64. The K64s would have perforations between the K16s so that they can be separated easily, if need be.
Got it! Thanks! just need an accurate pci-e plug count lol Smiley
legendary
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August 05, 2013, 11:56:00 PM
For those saying that we claimed to have all the components in hand, I would like to quote the following for reference:

For an update: We have all the parts/components needed for assembly of up to 200,000 chips (12,500 K16s) either on stock, on the way to us, or on order due to be delivered within the next 2 weeks.

As for the PCBs, turn-around time for them can be as little as 2 days. Even for an order of 1000 K64s, most shops start delivering 200 boards everyday from the 2nd or 3rd day. There are atleast 50 board houses here in Bay Area.
Hey guys, many of us are wondering ..how many pci-e power plugs will there be on a k64 board...one per board or 4 for each part of the k64 (4 pci-e)?
THX  Cheesy
legendary
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August 05, 2013, 11:50:56 PM
For those saying that we claimed to have all the components in hand, I would like to quote the following for reference:

For an update: We have all the parts/components needed for assembly of up to 200,000 chips (12,500 K16s) either on stock, on the way to us, or on order due to be delivered within the next 2 weeks.

As for the PCBs, turn-around time for them can be as little as 2 days. Even for an order of 1000 K64s, most shops start delivering 200 boards everyday from the 2nd or 3rd day. There are atleast 50 board houses here in Bay Area.
Thats very fast! Smiley
legendary
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August 05, 2013, 11:29:06 PM
I think Terrahash, out of courtesy and appreciation to its first batch customers (us guys)... should consider offering us a Second Pre-order opportunity prior to reopening to the public,,,and maybe offer all of us who have hung tight with them a chance to purchase up to 2-k64's or 8-k16's  (128 chips) for example" at a respectable discount ( even 5-10% Smiley ), But only after the first batch has shipped and been received. Thus giving us a chance to help make up for lost time if any, or just a way to say thank you! If they ship us, then they know we are good paying customers, and it would be easy to to do for Terrahash as they would have the production machine rolling, and they would know, by limiting the amounts of G/Hash we can reorder at max, then there would be no big surprise for them in inventory counts. I think something like this could be a WIN WIN for us as well as Terrahash!...Think about it please Terrahash..... Might would be a good contolled stratigic order move that would serve your budget well and smoothly....Even if only for a limited 12 hour hour order window for us,,,so long as we get an email first! Ok, just thinking outside the box ,,,maybe wishfull thinking but deserves some consideration I would think Smiley
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August 05, 2013, 11:11:28 PM

Didnt terrahash tell us he ordered everything and had everything he needed to mass produce our units weeks ago (less the Avalon chips)?
Now we find out he didnt even have the PCB boards to populate? And still doesnt have them on hand?

And until the revisions are tested then he shouldn't, It would be best to wait for BKK's final tests on the revision before ordering them (its only a few days away).

Outside of this I think he has all his ducks in a row. Credit where its due, Its all minor details now until Avalon deliver, and there not answering the phone so no one can do anything but wait.

Thank you Terra for your support of BKKCoins
But they told us they had everything ready to go and were only waiting on the chips. This is untrue. They are still waiting for parts. Not trying to blame anyone for anything, but... hopefully some serious competition heats up in the ASIC market because this sort of thing requires strict deadlines to be profitable.


Oh, Thanks BKK for your work on the Klondike boards.
legendary
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August 05, 2013, 11:00:33 PM
Yep, I must say having BKK come here and inform us of that is all anyone should need. Impressed and unexpected.
ya defintely unexpected.... quite the honor Smiley calmed my nerves a little to
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August 05, 2013, 10:45:28 PM

Didnt terrahash tell us he ordered everything and had everything he needed to mass produce our units weeks ago (less the Avalon chips)?
Now we find out he didnt even have the PCB boards to populate? And still doesnt have them on hand?

And until the revisions are tested then he shouldn't, It would be best to wait for BKK's final tests on the revision before ordering them (its only a few days away).

Outside of this I think he has all his ducks in a row. Credit where its due, Its all minor details now until Avalon deliver, and there not answering the phone so no one can do anything but wait.

Thank you Terra for your support of BKKCoins
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August 05, 2013, 10:38:02 PM
Yep, I must say having BKK come here and inform us of that is all anyone should need. Impressed and unexpected.
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August 05, 2013, 10:35:56 PM
^No. you will not get your board by August 15 and probably not by Sept. 1.

Not surprising.
Fine I reserve Sept 2nd. Smiley
Where are BlockErupters selling for BTC.15?


ASICMiner announced a 80% price drop: http://thegenesisblock.com/asicminer-usb-bitcoin-miner-price-drops-80-to-0-175-btc/

and

BTC Guild is giving away coupons for 0.15BTC Block erupters
"Right now, if you start to place an order and have coupons available, you will see an extra item available during checkout: "COUPON: USB Block Erupter @ 0.15000 BTC per unit". This is limited to the number of coupons available to your account."

It does not seem like it is going to be long before we see 0.10BTC Erupters... probably by September 1st when we're still asking where our Terrahash units went.

Didnt terrahash tell us he ordered everything and had everything he needed to mass produce our units weeks ago (less the Avalon chips)?
Now we find out he didnt even have the PCB boards to populate? And still doesnt have them on hand?


Why would they order thousands of PCB's if final revision is not even tested yet? PCB turn around time is likely not long 1-2 weeks, that is least of any concern.
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So sexy, it hurts.
August 05, 2013, 10:19:01 PM
Thank You terrahash!

I just wanted to publicly Thank You for making a substantial license payment to me for the boards you have under way. I thought it would be good for your customers to know that you have been taking the steps to make this "officially endorsed". If you ever need my assistance I'm always here.


This gives me the happy Cheesy
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August 05, 2013, 09:53:20 PM
^No. you will not get your board by August 15 and probably not by Sept. 1.

Not surprising.
Fine I reserve Sept 2nd. Smiley
Where are BlockErupters selling for BTC.15?


ASICMiner announced a 80% price drop: http://thegenesisblock.com/asicminer-usb-bitcoin-miner-price-drops-80-to-0-175-btc/

and

BTC Guild is giving away coupons for 0.15BTC Block erupters
"Right now, if you start to place an order and have coupons available, you will see an extra item available during checkout: "COUPON: USB Block Erupter @ 0.15000 BTC per unit". This is limited to the number of coupons available to your account."

It does not seem like it is going to be long before we see 0.10BTC Erupters... probably by September 1st when we're still asking where our Terrahash units went.

Didnt terrahash tell us he ordered everything and had everything he needed to mass produce our units weeks ago (less the Avalon chips)?
Now we find out he didnt even have the PCB boards to populate? And still doesnt have them on hand?

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