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Quote from: davecoin on June 14, 2013, 06:45:28 PM

Quote from: southerngentuk on June 14, 2013, 06:20:35 PM

and it does seem terrahash has most of his ducks in a line, except of course the first one - BKK has not tested his own pcb yet.

Now I have great faith in BKK and am sure he will get us there in the end - I just wish terra would hold back from pre-order until there is a hashing psb. Mostly because I promised my wife I would not spend any more until there was products shipping..(i`ve already broken that promise twice now i think) shhh

This is why I'm bummed to see pre-orders happening. There simply isn't a timeline available to the people who will be throwing money at TH. I am excited to see a pcb finished, but there is still a lot of work to be done.

As of 15 hours ago, BKK's readme shows that the following still need to be done:

More hardware testing including ASIC communication, chaining and overall board operation.

Testing and debugging I2C chaining firmware.

Creating firmware configurations for K1 and K64 that optimize code.

Combined USB / I2C bootloader firmware.

Set up HEXMATE scripting to insert serial# for supporting I2C arbitration.

Write cgminer driver and support for other host miner software.

Integrate cgminer into the repository properly for ARM cross compiling as right now it's not forked.

Testing cgminer with driver on a Raspberry Pi for a low-cost, low-power platform.

Testing with a TL-WR703N router containing purpose built OpenWrt firmware.

Stress testing and reliability in over-clocking situations.

Not to mention the design has not been tested. It would not be surprising if the PCB needs to be turned before mass production to improve reliability/parts shortages/manufacturing/design changes etc.

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Quote from: justmyname on June 14, 2013, 06:59:11 PM

Quote from: btceic on June 14, 2013, 05:57:19 PM

Why is the case just by itself cost $1200.00?

If you run it yourself you will have to research exactly how to connect the boards together. And then properly connect to a computer. It will cost a lot more (in time alone) to design something like that. I'm thinking of having them host the boards instead. The power supply and the fans. Sounds like a real hassle to me. Not some simple little case.

Since I haven't done any mining. I'm wondering how much trouble it will be to configure to a mining pool? Get it running for the first time? My power company likes to gouge you if you use too much electricity instead of a linear charge per Kilowatt. In my situation it might be more practical to have them host the boards.

Ahh, I was under the impression it'd basically be just getting the board and hooking it to a normal PSU.

The power is an issue here as well, and ours also increases depending on how much is used (because the power company has to buy outside power when overusing).

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Quote from: btceic on June 14, 2013, 05:57:19 PM

Why is the case just by itself cost $1200.00?

If you run it yourself you will have to research exactly how to connect the boards together. And then properly connect to a computer. It will cost a lot more (in time alone) to design something like that. I'm thinking of having them host the boards instead. The power supply and the fans. Sounds like a real hassle to me. Not some simple little case.

Since I haven't done any mining. I'm wondering how much trouble it will be to configure to a mining pool? Get it running for the first time? My power company likes to gouge you if you use too much electricity instead of a linear charge per Kilowatt. In my situation it might be more practical to have them host the boards.

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Quote from: newmars on June 14, 2013, 06:43:37 PM

Maybe a milk crate?

Yeah, that too. I'm just wondering what the benefit is in getting a $1200 case, over just letting the board(s) hang out.

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Quote from: southerngentuk on June 14, 2013, 06:20:35 PM

and it does seem terrahash has most of his ducks in a line, except of course the first one - BKK has not tested his own pcb yet.

Now I have great faith in BKK and am sure he will get us there in the end - I just wish terra would hold back from pre-order until there is a hashing psb. Mostly because I promised my wife I would not spend any more until there was products shipping..(i`ve already broken that promise twice now i think) shhh

This is why I'm bummed to see pre-orders happening. There simply isn't a timeline available to the people who will be throwing money at TH. I am excited to see a pcb finished, but there is still a lot of work to be done.

As of 15 hours ago, BKK's readme shows that the following still need to be done:

More hardware testing including ASIC communication, chaining and overall board operation.

Testing and debugging I2C chaining firmware.

Creating firmware configurations for K1 and K64 that optimize code.

Combined USB / I2C bootloader firmware.

Set up HEXMATE scripting to insert serial# for supporting I2C arbitration.

Write cgminer driver and support for other host miner software.

Integrate cgminer into the repository properly for ARM cross compiling as right now it's not forked.

Testing cgminer with driver on a Raspberry Pi for a low-cost, low-power platform.

Testing with a TL-WR703N router containing purpose built OpenWrt firmware.

Stress testing and reliability in over-clocking situations.

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Maybe a milk crate?

ranlo

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Is a case even needed for these though? Couldn't you just use a normal PC case, or even just elevate the board using a couple platforms or something like people do with GPU miners?

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฿ 12.00 is for one without power supply.
The case with power supply is ฿ 15.00!

http://terrahash.com/product/terrahash-dx-large/

Quote from: ryanb on June 14, 2013, 06:10:26 PM

Quote from: btceic on June 14, 2013, 05:57:19 PM

Why is the case just by itself cost $1200.00?

I am sure that includes the PSU and fans but i believe it is still steep for 12BTC

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$200 for a 4.5gh Module is a great price, I'll build my own case and spend the $1200 on 6 more modules!

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Boards & parts alone are about $35,then a heatsink/fan,not sure how much,maybe $10 ??

Full K16 boards & thier chips are currently 1.99 BTC=$200 approx as of today.BTC @ $100 now.

http://terrahash.com/product/4-5-ghsec-module/

No case,PSU or cables. Pretty good deal Wink

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Yes its a very good deal, enough to make me question why I bothered with the group buys..

and it does seem terrahash has most of his ducks in a line, except of course the first one - BKK has not tested his own pcb yet.

Now I have great faith in BKK and am sure he will get us there in the end - I just wish terra would hold back from pre-order until there is a hashing psb. Mostly because I promised my wife I would not spend any more until there was products shipping..(i`ve already broken that promise twice now i think) shhh

P.S. Terra that board is f##kin sexy well done, can`t wait to see it populated and tested - Good luck

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Quote from: Silvas on June 14, 2013, 06:10:17 PM

Quote from: btceic on June 14, 2013, 05:57:19 PM

Why is the case just by itself cost $1200.00?

They already said they're running pretty tight margins on boards, and are looking to make more profit on the cases, and especially on complete turnkey mining units ready to run with PSU, case, etc all together with the board.

For those of us who already have a PSU or want to get one of our own, maybe do our own case or fabricate some mounting hardware to mount in something like a rack mount case, this is perfect.
The case they're offering looks nice, and if I had gotten into bitcoin sooner and had a ton of BTC laying around I'd go for it. But I don't really *need* a nice fancy case and psu and fans and all that. I have tons of spare parts laying around so having the option to save money is nice

Do you mind sharing on how you will be housing the boards?

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Quote from: btceic on June 14, 2013, 05:57:19 PM

Why is the case just by itself cost $1200.00?

I am sure that includes the PSU and fans but i believe it is still steep for 12BTC

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Quote from: btceic on June 14, 2013, 05:57:19 PM

Why is the case just by itself cost $1200.00?

They already said they're running pretty tight margins on boards, and are looking to make more profit on the cases, and especially on complete turnkey mining units ready to run with PSU, case, etc all together with the board.

For those of us who already have a PSU or want to get one of our own, maybe do our own case or fabricate some mounting hardware to mount in something like a rack mount case, this is perfect.
The case they're offering looks nice, and if I had gotten into bitcoin sooner and had a ton of BTC laying around I'd go for it. But I don't really *need* a nice fancy case and psu and fans and all that. I have tons of spare parts laying around so having the option to save money is nice

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♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫

Why is the case just by itself cost $1200.00?

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just curious

if someone orders the assembled boards how do you plan on housing them?

The case on terrahash site is 12BTC

2 x 18 Ghash board will cost 14BTC I would rather spend the money on a board instead of a case

Any suggestions?

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The BTC price was set a while ago. Maybe the upcoming price in USD will be different.

Unacceptable

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Quote from: southerngentuk on June 14, 2013, 04:55:46 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: southerngentuk on June 14, 2013, 05:36:46 AM

Just checked out your site and unless my maths is $hit
you are selling the chips at cost and assembly and board for .75 BTC

This seems way to cheap, are you gonna review these prices?

Not your maths, but your eyesight is shit. 0.75 is for assembly only, where you provide the chips.

Ok maybe I should have better punctuation.

You are selling the chips at cost. = Why outlay 800 BTC and not make some profit?

Assembly and board for .75 BTC = Very reasonable price.

If Assembly and board were .75 on a group buy then fine. This just seems some tight margins for a business.

Boards & parts alone are about $35,then a heatsink/fan,not sure how much,maybe $10 ??

Full K16 boards & thier chips are currently 1.99 BTC=$200 approx as of today.BTC @ $100 now.

http://terrahash.com/product/4-5-ghsec-module/

No case,PSU or cables. Pretty good deal Wink

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: southerngentuk on June 14, 2013, 05:36:46 AM

Just checked out your site and unless my maths is $hit
you are selling the chips at cost and assembly and board for .75 BTC

This seems way to cheap, are you gonna review these prices?

Not your maths, but your eyesight is shit. 0.75 is for assembly only, where you provide the chips.

Ok maybe I should have better punctuation.

You are selling the chips at cost. = Why outlay 800 BTC and not make some profit?

Assembly and board for .75 BTC = Very reasonable price.

If Assembly and board were .75 on a group buy then fine. This just seems some tight margins for a business.

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Hopefully on Monday, with the publishing of order information, all of our "fears" will be gone, and we can start throwing funds out for the preorders.

I personally am looking at diversifying a bit from ASICMINER. Not comfortable having such a large percentage of funds on one horse (however well they are performing).

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evidence for a Avalon Chip order is more convincing

Quote from: crazyates on June 14, 2013, 04:04:10 PM

Quote from: joeventura on June 14, 2013, 03:56:23 PM

You should be looking for credibility, the best way to do that is to provide evidence you have ordered chips and their expected arrival date.

Very simple.

TerraH has been pushing to help get the development of the K16 boards moving as quickly as possible. They posted a pic of a board that they had printed for the K16. Why would they be pushing for the development of that board if they didn't have any chips to put on it?

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